HBO’s Real Time host Bill Maher is a liberal but he’s been going after the far-left lately, showing how their woke policies violate the very principles the left says they champion, particularly on race. On his most recent show from Friday night, he pointed out how things like having two national anthems played at football games and schools segregating activities and classrooms by race was taking the country backwards. But the far-left View hosts didn’t like their side being criticized, so they pushed back on Maher’s valid points on their Monday’s show.
First, ABC played the clip of Maher having said this on said show: “Maybe we should have one national anthem. I think when you go down a road where you are having two different national anthems, colleges sometimes now have -- many of them have different graduation ceremonies for black and white, separate dorms. This is what I mean. Segregation. You've inverted the idea. We're going back to that under a different name.”
Whoopi Goldberg was first to react. She passionately defended the woke’s demands on race issues because they “had to re-educate people” on “what [they] can’t say’” since we had “gone backwards, 10-15 years.” So she's saying we’re just as racist now as when the country elected our first black president?
Making things even weirder, Whoopi suggested the right thought “rape jokes” were funny. Which is really strange, coming from the person who said on the show that her friend Roman Polanski wasn’t guilty of “rape-rape” and who defended Democrats accused of rape.
“Now maybe other people don't feel like that, but I feel like, you know, we have to re-educate and retell people. We don't think rape humor is funny. We don't think, you know, talking about Native Americans in a really despicable way is funny,” she argued.
Co-hosts Joy Behar and Sara Haines meanwhile, voiced support for changing the National Anthem to take out the third stanza, that no one ever sings, talking about slaves and to having two separate anthems.
But Sunny Hostin decided to slam Maher for lamenting how college campuses have become “social justice factories” and professors were more political activists than teachers. Hostin, who has repeatedly defended Critical Race Theory on the show, argued that conservatives pushing back on CRT were the ones dividing the country by “pretending” inequality doesn’t exist (click "expand"):
HOSTIN: [T]he notion that talking about racial inequality is the reason -- is the problem, and not actual racial inequality is ridiculous, and I'm really tired of the gaslighting. Really great teachers don't deny the history of this country and the lived experience of their students. Researchers tell you that really great educators don't pretend that that's not the case. They help explain why it's happening, and they help you get through it. So you're not really a social justice activist when you're teaching history. You're just a history teacherand that's what we need to get past, and I think Americans really like the sanitized version of history, and that's why they always jump to MLK’s teaching and his one speech that talks about the content of their character.--
GOLDBERG: Right.
HOSTIN: -- Rather than his real ideologies.
GOLDBERG: Right.
HOSTIN: The bottom line here is talking about racial inequality is not what is dividing our country. What is dividing our country is the gaslighting that is going on in our communities and not talking about it. [ Applause ]
Whoopi ended the segment claiming it boiled down to one side refusing to see people of color as equal. "So in the culture that I'm seeing, we are fighting because there's a big gap. There's a big gap here. You don't see us as being viable parts of the United States, and that's the problem," she vented.
Unfortunately no one really responded to the Maher's main point about the left embracing segregation by separating school dorms, graduations and lowering graduation requirements, solely based on race.
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Read the transcript below:
ABC's The View
09/13/21WHOOPI GOLBDERG: On Realtime with Bill Maher, he claimed the division in America has come from a misguided attempt at inclusion that’s having the opposite effect. Take a look.
BILL MAHER: I saw last night on the football game, Alicia Keys sing, lift every voice and sing which I hear is called the black national anthem. Maybe we should have one national anthem. I think when you go down a road where you are having two different national anthems, colleges sometimes now have -- many of them have different graduation ceremonies for black and white, separate dorms. This is what I mean. Segregation. You've inverted the idea. We're going back to that under a different name.
GOLDBERG: And he went on to quote a professor that claims that colleges have become social justice factories instead of an open forum for discussion. I'm just going to throw my two cents in. I think because we have gone backwards a good 10, 15 years, we're having to re-educate people. We're having to re-educate people about how women want to be talked about, how black people want to be talked about, how Hispanic people want to be talked about, and yeah. It's a little bit tough. Native-Americans, the Asian folks. These are all things that we -- I thought we all worked together and got everybody to the point where, here's what you can't say, and just so you know, Bill, the Lift Every voice has always been considered the black national anthem. It's always been that because the separation of the anthems has been so clear to us. Now maybe other people don't feel like that, but I feel like, you know, we have to re-educate and retell people. We don't think rape humor is funny. We don't think, you know, talking about Native Americans in a really despicable way is funny. It's not funny. We have to re-educate. Do you think that's a good idea or are people taking this too far too long?
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JOY BEHAR: Maybe that's got -- the liberty of campuses, but the national anthem does not appeal to black America for very good reason.
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BEHAR: Black people don’t consider themselves--They don't want this anthem, and neither do I.
SARA HAINES: Francis Scott Key, He was a racist.
BEHAR: He owned slaves. That's how he got wealthy.
HAINES: Yeah.
BEHAR: In order for black people to make their point, listen. This is a systemic racism going on in this country, and this anthem does not reflect our values.
HAINES: Which I understand.
BEHAR: So we want to say this about our group, and this is what they're doing. I think it's a good idea frankly.
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GOLDBERG: Hey we’re back. We’re talking about Bill Maher complaining that the black national anthem at football games and woke college campuses are causing division in America. [blows raspberry]
SUNNY HOSTIN: Thank you, Whoopi. I appreciate you. He said some other things that caught my eye. He said that what's going on across our classroom is pitting students against each other based on the color of their skin and he also said that teachers are taking children and making them hyper aware of race in a way that they wouldn't otherwise be, and mere research will tell you that sociologists have studied this for years, and that 7 and 8-year-old black children and -- in first and second grade are aware that they are treated differently because of the color of their skin and judged differently because of the color of their skin. I can tell you as a black little girl, I knew as early as really 5 or 6 that I was being treated differently.
BEHEAR: Who treated you differently?
HOSTIN: Other children, teachers, people in society, and so the notion that talking about racial inequality is the reason -- is the problem, and not actual racial inequality is ridiculous, and I'm really tired of the gaslighting. Really great teachers don't deny the history of this country and the lived experience of their students. Researchers tell you that really great educators don't pretend that that's not the case. They help explain why it's happening, and they help you get through it. So you're not really a social justice activist when you're teaching history. You're just a history teacher, and that's what we need to get past, and I think Americans really like the sanitized version of history, and that's why they always jump to MLK’s teaching and his one speech that talks about the content of their character --
GOLDBERG: Right.
HOSTIN: -- Rather than his real ideologies.
GOLDBERG: Right.
HOSTIN: The bottom line here is talking about racial inequality is not what is dividing our country. What is dividing our country is the gaslighting that is going on in our communities and not talking about it. [ Applause ]
MARY KATHARINE HAM: I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding between two sides about whether we are actually having a conversation. Let me speak up for the national anthem for a moment. One of the reasons that we all had chills hearing it in the days after 9/11 is not because it stood for Francis Scott key or the things he thought, but because it stood for all of us and the flag stood for all of us in that moment where we truly are unified and just in the past couple of weeks, we have lost young people, people of color and white Marines and Navy folks and soldiers in Afghanistan for whom that anthem and the flag were sacred, and they laid down their lives in front of them. This is a passion with good reason, and I think people when they see it thrown overboard, because of the thoughts of Francis Scott Key, they get passionate about that because they want unity. Now when it comes to -- we sang the black national anthem in my schools growing up. Shoutout, Durham. It's a beautiful song.
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WHOOPI: This is what I was saying to that. All of that makes sense. My father, my grandfather and many of our fathers fought in all these wars. Couldn't vote in this country, but fought for this country. So there is no -- we know where we come from. We have been fighting to be seen as equal from the giddy-up, and if college campuses and teachers could stop seeing color first and treating students differently, whether on the left or the right, because the great thing about freedom of speech is we all have the right, and if you don't understand what's happening, you have to have the conversation, but you cannot say this is happening because people are woke. I never sleep. I've never been asleep, okay? [ Applause ] So in the culture that I'm seeing, we are fighting because there's a big gap. There's a big gap here. You don't see us as being viable parts of the United States, and that's the problem. Not just us, but native Americans and all of the other that we have been talking about, women, just a whole thing. So you know what? Everybody, America, get it together. We've actually dealt with this. We already dealt with this. Remember the stuff we said don't say to us. Remember the stuff, and okay I'm going. We'll be right back.
