On Monday’s New Day, CNN co-host Alisyn Camerota conspired with chair and president of Access International Professor William Haseltine to advocate for governors reinstating lockdowns. Camerota expressed that her only concern about politicians trying to “police indoor gatherings of families” would be how they would go about that with Haseltine asserting that “it probably is time” for “stay-at-home orders.”
Camerota began by praising New York’s Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo for shutting down indoor dining and advocating for further radical authoritarianism by asking “what’s the answer” for politicians for preventing people from gathering with their loved ones:
And that, you know, spike, as you can see on your screen, is just going up exponentially and so all sorts of leaders are trying to figure out how to keep the hospitals from reaching capacity and from being overwhelmed and so let's just look at New York. I mean they're trying -- they're -- they're banning indoor dining, but, you know, contact tracers have found that that's not the source of the biggest spread. The source of the biggest spread are small family gatherings and gatherings with friends. And so, what's the answer?
Already, 10,000 restaurants have closed due to lockdowns across the U.S. In New York City, dining has declined by 70 percent since this time last year and almost two-thirds of NYC restaurants could be out of business by January due to Cuomo’s restrictions. Maybe Camerota would not be as enthusiastic about the government ruining people’s livelihoods if the government were to shut down CNN and put her out of work?
In response, Haseltine snootily attacked those who are not as smart as him and love their families and friends and want to see them, despite the risk, by declaring that experts like himself “can't save everyone from themselves.”
Haseltine loves attacking people who do not agree with him on COVID policy. Earlier this year on New Day, Haseltine accused President Trump of “mass murder” for considering a herd immunity approach. Haseltine did not consider that White House aides cited the “Great Barrington Declaration” for their basis for considering such a strategy, which was signed by doctors from Stanford, Harvard, and Oxford.
Camerota joined in with the bashing of those who do not support despotic COVID policies and expressed that the only issue with politicians trying to “police indoor gatherings of families” would be its feasibility:
I understand. I -- I mean I hear you and we can't save people from themselves and, of course, elected leaders are loathe to try to police indoor gatherings of families. I mean how would they even do that? And so they're doing something, at least here in New York, and -- and I know that other places, cities and states are considering this, that they can control, and that's the indoor dining of restaurants -- at restaurants.
Haseltine lied about the success of European lockdowns:
Bars and restaurants are places where people gather and they do get infected. But as you say, most of the infections can be stopped by people who are willing to take the effort to protect themselves and their family. You know, we know it works extremely well. I've seen numbers in Europe, for example, France, through very strict lockdown measures, has dropped their infection rate by 20 times -- 20 times, and they thought they were going to release it over the Christmas holidays and they're not. They're protecting their people.
Haseltine must have forgotten to mention that the reason that European countries instituted another round of lockdowns is that the first round was completely unsuccessful in preventing a large resurgence of COVID.
Camerota and Haseltine finished the segment by continuing to express their love for tyranny:
CAMEROTA: I know, it's such a horrible thing to be noted for, that the U.S. is doing this so poorly. And so some governors are considering stay-at-home orders now. And, again, I mean, you know, they're very reluctant to do that. The public really doesn't want that to happen. Do you think it's time?
HASELTINE: You know, I think it probably is time, but I know, as you know, that there's tremendous resistance. Part of that resistance is political. But part of it isn't. Part of it is people who need to get to work, people who will -- don't have the adequate safety net in order to survive during this time, people we call essential workers. It's certainly essential for them to live because they don't have any other support. And the needed support from our government isn't forthcoming. So it's a -- it's a pretty complicated issue for many people. What can they do to protect themselves when they're not receiving the kind of protection they need from the government that's duty is to protect our people?
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Read the full December 14th transcript here:
CNN's New Day
12/14/20
6:41:45 AMALISYN CAMEROTA: Developing this morning, states across the country will begin vaccinating health care workers and the elderly. A record 109,000 Americans are hospitalized this morning with the virus. And this comes as New York City has halted indoor dining, starting today, for at least the next two weeks to try to cut down on the spread. Joining us now is William Haseltine, he's the chair and president of Access Health International and a former professor of -- at Harvard Medical School. Professor, great to see you this morning. Let me just -- this is such an historic day and it's such an encouraging day that the -- the vaccinations are coming, but at the same time there's 109,000 Americans waking up in the hospital this morning. And that, you know, spike, as you can see on your screen, is just going up exponentially and so all sorts of leaders are trying to figure out how to keep the hospitals from reaching capacity and from being overwhelmed and so let's just look at New York. I mean they're trying -- they're -- they're banning indoor dining, but, you know, contact tracers have found that that's not the source of the biggest spread. The source of the biggest spread are small family gatherings and gatherings with friends. And so, what's the answer?
WILLIAM HASELTINE (CHAIR AND PRESIDENT OF ACCESS HEALTH INTERNATIONAL): Well, I'll give you a voice from doctors in California. We can't save everyone from themselves. And another doctor in California, in the Central Valley, where the infection rate is extremely high, we can save many people, but we can't save everyone at once. That's a voice that I think everybody should hear. When you look at a place like California, you think of it as high-tech, movie stars, but California is like the United States. It's quite diverse. North can be very rural, and there there’re some rates that are truly extraordinary. We call a zone red when they're 15 per 100,000 per day. They're over 300 per 1,000 or 100,000 per day in some parts of northern California. And others, 200, and others 100. That is way above what anybody thought could happen in the United States. Thank God there's a vaccine on the way.
CAMEROTA: Yeah, I understand. I -- I mean I hear you and we can't save people from themselves and, of course, elected leaders are loathe to try to police indoor gatherings of families. I mean, how would they even do that? And so they're doing something, at least here in New York, and -- and I know that other places, cities, and states are considering this, that they can control, and that's the indoor dining of restaurants -- at restaurants.
HASELTINE: Right.
CAMEROTA: But do you support that? Do you think that that will make a dent?
HASELTINE: It will make a small difference, for sure. Bars and restaurants are places where people gather and they do get infected. But as you say, most of the infections can be stopped by people who are willing to take the effort to protect themselves and their family. You know, we know it works extremely well. I've seen numbers in Europe, for example, France, through very strict lockdown measures, has dropped their infection rate by 20 times -- 20 times, and they thought they were going to release it over the Christmas holidays and they're not. They're protecting their people. Some of their people don't like it. That's understandable. But they enforce those rules and the result is control of the infection just before we get the vaccine. I just hope, like many people hope, that we can hold on and change our behavior until the vaccines are available to most people. It shouldn't be many months now, but it's really important because we're not doing anything. We're the worst in the world by far in control of this pandemic. The worst in the world.
CAMEROTA: I know, it's such a horrible thing to be noted for, that the U.S. is doing this so poorly. And so some governors are considering stay-at-home orders now.
HASELTINE: That's right.
CAMEROTA: And, again, I mean, you know, they're very reluctant to do that. The public really doesn't want that to happen. Do you think it's time?
HASELTINE: You know, I think it probably is time, but I know, as you know, that there's tremendous resistance. Part of that resistance is political. But part of it isn't. Part of it is people who need to get to work, people who will -- don't have the adequate safety net in order to survive during this time, people we call essential workers. It's certainly essential for them to live because they don't have any other support. And the needed support from our government isn't forthcoming. So it's a -- it's a pretty complicated issue for many people. What can they do to protect themselves when they're not receiving the kind of protection they need from the government that's duty is to protect our people?
CAMEROTA: Professor Haseltine, thank you very much for helping us see where we are today. Appreciate talking to you.
