Moderator Whoopi Goldberg was back on ABC’s The View on Monday after her visit with Pope Francis last week. She bragged about taking important lessons away from their conversations and that he’s “a pope for all people.” But according to her, not all people were human and it all came down to politics and only progressives like her and Francis were human beings.
That’s not the Holy Spirit you’re channeling, Whoopi!
She said Francis reminded her a lot of Pope John XXIII. “And it's been a very long time, and they really gave him a lot of hell about this saying, how dare you come in and change this and blah blah blah. And this pope gets a lot of hell from people because he is saying things that seem to freak people out,” she lamented.
Racist and anti-Semitic co-host Sunny Hostin was the one to initiate the praise for Francis based on his “progressive” politics, but it was Goldberg who equated it with a person’s humanity:
HOSTIN: He's pretty progressive for a pope.
GOLDBERG: Well, he's very progressive. He's a human being as it turns out which is what I really liked and he is doing his best to be a human for everybody.
HOSTIN: Yeah.
GOLDBERG: Because he knows that we are all flawed. He's flawed. I'm flawed. You're flawed. But he's, like, “Listen, we can bring the best we can, bring the best of us.”
If being progressive made one a human being, what did that make conservatives? None of the so-called "conservatives" on the panel -- Ana Navarro and Alyssa Farah Griffin -- asked Goldberg to elaborate on the point.
But despite that praise and the appreciation that he was a fan of her Sister Act film series, Goldberg said it was not enough to get her back in the pews. “So, you know, I don't know that it's going to jump me back into church (…) But what it did was it gave me good reason to not abandon (…) There's something there, and it's there for everybody. Whatever your religion, whatever your denomination, whatever,” she proclaimed.
She added: “Listen, I don't know what any of it means, but I know that I feel better because I feel like somebody up there likes me. That's the best way I can put it.”
Hostin wasn’t done rambling. She was still suggesting she was a “devout Catholic,” despite being radically pro-abortion while claiming to be pro-life.
“I'm a faithful Catholic. I'm a devout Catholic. But I’ve been disgruntled. You know I left the church for a few years behind the pedophilia scandals. I am against their stance on gay marriage,” she bloviated. “And so, I have had a lot of difficulties. But this pope always felt different to me. He always felt different to me and in some respects, brought me back to the church.”
This was not the first time The View has spewed dangerous and dehumanizing rhetoric on the show. Last year they claimed Republicans wanted to “destroy” America.
The transcript is below. Click "expand" to read:
ABC’s The View
October 16, 2023
11:05:35 a.m. Eastern(…)
WHOOPI GOLDBERG: I went to Catholic school, and the first pope I ever knew about was called John XXIII.
ANA NAVARRO: The good pope.
GOLDBERG: He was instrumental in saying to the powers that be, “Listen, we cannot continue to do these masses in Latin because not everybody speaks Latin. Do the mass in the language of the people we are giving the mass to, and tell these nuns to lighten up with these clothes. It's too heavy. We need to be here.” And it's been a very long time, and they really gave him a lot of hell about this saying, how dare you come in and change this and blah blah blah.
And this pope gets a lot of hell from people because he is saying things that seem to freak people out.
SUNNY HOSTIN: He's pretty progressive for a pope.
GOLDBERG: Well, he's very progressive. He's a human being as it turns out which is what I really liked and he is doing his best to be a human for everybody.
HOSTIN: Yeah.
GOLDBERG: Because he knows that we are all flawed. He's flawed. I'm flawed. You're flawed. But he's, like, “Listen, we can bring the best we can, bring the best of us.” So, you know, I don't know that it's going to jump me back into church --
HOSTIN: Whoopi.
GOLDBERG: No, listen, but what it did was it gave me good reason to not abandon. It gave me reason that there's --
HOSTIN: There's still something there.
GOLDBERG: There's something there, and it's there for everybody. Whatever your religion, whatever your denomination, whatever.
NAVARRO: Whoop, does he have as much of a sense of humor?
GOLDBERG: He is funny.
ALYSSA FARAH GRIFFIN: And he knew Sister Act. I was obsessed with that.
GOLDBERG: And he was, like, “The shoes. You're wearing the red shoes.” I said I'm just trying to bring the nuns into the 21st century. He laughed. Listen, I don't know what any of it means, but I know that I feel better because I feel like somebody up there likes me. That's the best way I can put it.
[Applause]
HOSTIN: Well, and that's -- I mean, a lot of people like you, but I'm also -- I'm a faithful catholic. I'm a devout catholic. But I’ve been disgruntled. You know I left the church for a few years behind the pedophilia scandals. I am against their stance on gay marriage.
GOLDBERG: Yeah.
HOSTIN: And so, I have had a lot of difficulties. But this pope always felt different to me.
GOLDBERG: Yeah.
HOSTIN: He always felt different to me and in some respects, brought me back to the church.
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