The words of the legacy media suggest that they abhor political violence in all its forms, and condemn such acts. But they continually platform the very politicians that inflame our discourse during delicate times. The latest example of this is Dana Bash’s interview with Texas Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett on State of the Union.
After a pro forma question on the allegations against Tom Homan, Bash pivots to the House resolution memorializing Charlie Kirk. Crockett’s response was to lament that only two white people voted against the resolution, and to smear Kirk as a “New Age Relic” of the Confederacy:
HOLD MY BEER, ILAN: Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) refers to Charlie Kirk as a "New Age (Confederate) relic" while explaining her "no" vote on the memorial resolution passed by the House. pic.twitter.com/av4mHQhL6V
— Jorge Bonilla (@BonillaJL) September 21, 2025
DANA BASH: Well, on that note, I do want to turn to something that you heard the senator just say, which is, he was talking about a resolution that came before the House this past week honoring Charlie Kirk. And there were 58 Democrats who voted against it. You were one.
CROCKETT: Yes.
BASH: Why?
CROCKETT: Absolutely. You know what? One of the things I do want to point out...
BASH: Yes.
CROCKETT: ... that's not been laid out that honestly hurts my heart is, when I saw the no-votes, there were only two Caucasians. For the most part, the only people they voted no were people of color, because the rhetoric that Charlie Kirk’s continuously put out there was rhetoric that specifically targeted people of color. And so it is unfortunate that even our colleagues could not see how harmful his rhetoric was specifically to us. And I can tell you that, a month prior to him passing away, he had actually gotten out on his podcast -- I wasn't aware of this at the time, but he got out there and he was talking negatively about me directly. So, if there was any way that I was going to honor somebody who decided that they were just going to negatively talk about me and proclaim that I was somehow involved in the great white replacement, yeah, I'm not honoring that kind of stuff, especially as a civil rights attorney and understanding how I got to Congress, knowing that there were people that died, people that were willing to die that worked to make sure that voices like mine could exist in this place. So, to me, just like we wanted to make sure that those Confederate relics were taken down, the idea of a New Age relic being propped up was something that I just could not subscribe to. And it is unfortunate that more of my colleagues, even on my side of the aisle, could not see the amount of harm that this man was attempting to inflict upon our communities.
Bash then played back for Crockett a sampling of her own incendiary quotes, and her response was to triple right down and potentially incite violence by invoking Hitler:
Jasmine Crockett gets shown a clip of her own incendiary speech as proof of overheated rhetoric, and proceeds to triple down by invoking Hitler pic.twitter.com/uqfMamI7vG
— Jorge Bonilla (@BonillaJL) September 21, 2025
Bash allowed Crockett to finish her incendiary take with no interruption, no pushback and no further questions to the interview. And she did so calmly and breezily, just as she sat there and let Crockett dump all over Kirk while explaining her “no” vote- unlike Kaitlan Collins who visibly seethed and shook her head as Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Mogadishu) explained her “no” vote for the aforementioned resolution.
It wasn’t that long ago that these networks broadcast a distinction between freedom of speech and the artificially-constructed “freedom of reach” when weighing whether to platform vaccine skeptics and those who questioned the 2020 presidential election. When examining their role in helping foment political violence, perhaps these media should consider their own advice before booking known rhetorical bomb-throwers, who most often inhabit the political left (where most of the violence is coming from). Physicians, heal thyselves.
Click “expand” to view the full transcript of the aforementioned interview as aired on CNN State of the Union on Sunday, September 21st, 2025:
DANA BASH: I want to ask you about that in one second, but I do want to start -- first of all, welcome. Thank you for being here. With The New York Times reporting that the DoJ closed an investigation into the president's border czar, Tom Homan, after he allegedly accepted a bag of cash from undercover FBI agents. Now, we should say the FBI director and the deputy attorney general say they found no evidence of wrongdoing. You're a member of the House Oversight Committee. Are you going to try to get information about the investigation?
JASMINE CROCKETT: This is absolutely something that not only Oversight, but Judiciary should look into. And I sit as the ranking member on the subcommittee for Judiciary that is oversight. So this is something that me and my team are definitely going to look into. And, hopefully, the chairman of that subcommittee is interested in finding out what the truth is, because that is what we are really supposed to do. We are not supposed to figure out who is best friends with the president, and if they are closely aligned with him, then just ignore things, while trying to make up things about political opposition.
BASH: Well, on that note, I do want to turn to something that you heard the senator just say, which is, he was talking about a resolution that came before the House this past week honoring Charlie Kirk. And there were 58 Democrats who voted against it. You were one.
CROCKETT: Yes.
BASH: Why?
CROCKETT: Absolutely. You know what? One of the things I do want to point out...
BASH: Yes.
CROCKETT: ... that's not been laid out that honestly hurts my heart is, when I saw the no-votes, there were only two Caucasians. For the most part, the only people they voted no were people of color, because the rhetoric that Charlie Kirk’s continuously put out there was rhetoric that specifically targeted people of color. And so it is unfortunate that even our colleagues could not see how harmful his rhetoric was specifically to us. And I can tell you that, a month prior to him passing away, he had actually gotten out on his podcast -- I wasn't aware of this at the time, but he got out there and he was talking negatively about me directly. So, if there was any way that I was going to honor somebody who decided that they were just going to negatively talk about me and proclaim that I was somehow involved in the great white replacement, yeah, I'm not honoring that kind of stuff, especially as a civil rights attorney and understanding how I got to Congress, knowing that there were people that died, people that were willing to die that worked to make sure that voices like mine could exist in this place. So, to me, just like we wanted to make sure that those Confederate relics were taken down, the idea of a New Age relic being propped up was something that I just could not subscribe to. And it is unfortunate that more of my colleagues, even on my side of the aisle, could not see the amount of harm that this man was attempting to inflict upon our communities.
BASH: So, meanwhile, you obviously feel very strongly about the rhetoric that Charlie Kirk used that you find objectionable...
CROCKETT: Yeah.
BASH: ... and also from others in the MAGA movement. As the memorial service for him is going to happen later today, there is a debate over heated rhetoric on all sides. And...
CROCKETT: Listen...
BASH: Go ahead.
CROCKETT: Whether it's heated or not, the fact is, Charlie Kirk should still be here. It should not have been that there was political violence that resulted because of the words that were coming out of his mouth, just like plenty of MAGA hates when I mention white supremacy, which kind of tells you where MAGA stands. But, nevertheless, they get very upset when I talk about white supremacy, but that doesn't mean that somebody should then try to find a bullet or try to find a knife and harm me, not in America. That's not who we are supposed to be.
BASH: Well, let me ask you, because I do want to play a couple of statements that you made earlier this year.
CROCKETT: OK.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CROCKETT: Unfortunately, we have someone that is occupying the White House, and, as far as I'm concerned, he is an enemy to the United States.
(SWIPE)
They want to show that they are loyal to this -- I don't even know what to call them. I have called him so many things, but this wannabe Hitler, for sure.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BASH: And, to be clear, the president has attacked, other people have attacked you in his orbit, maybe not him personally. But do you have a responsibility as an elected official not to raise the temperature, but rather lower the temperature, particularly when there are people out there who listen to elected officials all over the place who are not well who use that as a way to instigate the political violence that you are calling out?
CROCKETT: I think that my responsibility is to be transparent and to be honest. And the reality is that we are living in a time in which this administration and this regime is not interested in making sure that people understand history. We need to understand why they are so problematic. And so I am using that language because it is accurate language when we see the consolidation of power, when we see them trying to chill speech of jokesters, when we're seeing all of this. That is a playbook out of Hitler. And I won't deny it. Like, these are the facts. But one of the things that I have never done that the president has done consistently is called specifically for violence. He has said, oh, beat that one up. He has said those types of things. We know that Charlie Kirk was saying things about who should live and who should die. I have never said those kinds of things. And I think that those things are the ones that are really, really dangerous. And even still, some of that will still be protected. We know that we still have laws that are on the book that certain speech is not protected, that it does cross over, when you are inciting violence, such as what we saw on January 6, when you are doing what we consider to be a terroristic threat of some sort, where it's a matter of, I'm not just saying it, but I have the apparent ability to carry that out. But me laying out historical facts, just like they don't want to talk about the fact that slavery was real in this country and that my people were enslaved and dragged and raped and abused, and they don't want to account for any of that, they don't believe in reparations, no, I think it is OK for me to understand history and communicate in a very clear way about why we should feel as if there is a concern. And when we swear an oath, which is what that first clip was, we swear an oath to the Constitution to protect against all enemies foreign and domestic. And so if there is someone that is evidencing themselves, such as the president, who is going out and says, yes, I will take a $400 million plane from a foreign government or is engaged in receiving crypto that we cannot track in exchange for, say, giving away chips to Saudi Arabia, no, we absolutely need to understand how these things could cause us harm. Or when he's cozying up to somebody like Vladimir Putin, it's not only a problem for us, but it's a problem for our allies when you have somebody like Poland that is like, yes, this is what Russia's up to, and the president is like, oh, that may have just been a mistake. We need to understand what all his business dealings are, even with Russia, because that has the potential of putting us in harm's way.
BASH: Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, thank you so much for being here. Nice to see you.
CROCKETT: Good to see you too.