The infamous podcast host and mega free-speech advocate Joe Rogan interviewed former Islamist turned counter-extremism activist, Maajid Nawaz.
Rogan, host of The Joe Rogan Experience, did a three-hour interview with author and public speaker Nawaz. The two covered everything from Nawaz’s past as an Islamist to his present stance and work to counter extremism. They also discussed Nawaz’s unique views on the tyrannical tactics of Big Tech.
At the start of the Feb. 20 podcast episode, Rogan pointed out that Twitter used to be a forum where all information was welcome. “It’s so confusing now,” Rogan said. “You remember in the old days when you would just say, like, ‘@Maajid, I’m having a pizza with friends?’”
Nawaz then slammed the platform as a “weapon now” and suggested that we’re in a “hybrid war” with information being a core part of combat as Twitter and normal people wrestle over simple definitions of reality. Nawaz alluded to Twitter and said, “If whoever defines reality gets to win, and Twitter is, as a result, in that context, it's a weapon that is being used to define reality by molding people's minds.”
Rogan replied, “What’s interesting is the people that are being molded are fiercely defending the rights of those people to mold them.”
“Yeah, that’s the best way to do it, right?” Nawaz said.
Nawaz then related slavemaster and extremist tactics to the way that Big Tech, and Twitter specifically, mold people’s minds.
“If I wanted to enslave you, I don’t think I’d have much of a chance physically, right? I don’t know about you, but I’ve only been training for about a couple of years. Yeah? So, the way to do it would be for me to convince you. Use a Jedi mind trick,” he said. “So you voluntarily follow me; that’s the way to do it.”
Big Tech has repeatedly used “mind trick[s],” like Nawaz talked about with Rogan. They have a history of calling things so-called “misinformation” when it comes to, among other things, COVID-19. Spotify, for example, removed at least 70 episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience for supposed “misinformation.” JRE Missing, a website that “automatically detects” unavailable Spotify episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience, claimed that 113 episodes have been removed so far. Big Tech and their fact-checkers disapprove of and routinely censor alternate COVID-19 treatments or conversation points that run counter to the left’s narrative. Rogan was criticized for hosting the innovator of mRNA vaccine technology used in COVID-19 vaccines, Dr. Robert Malone, as well as social commentator Jordan Peterson.
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