On Tuesday night’s Alex Wagner Tonight, the eponymous MSNBC host brought her viewers back into the early 1990s by dragging sexual assault hoaxer Anita Hill on the show to help her sell a book she wrote. During this interview, Wagner predictably asked Hill if she sees chauvinism and misogyny in the Dobbs decision and the subsequent pro-life legislation that it gave rise to.
Wagner, after talking about the Proud Boys, asked Hill: “Do you see the Republican zeal to control a woman's body as an extension of that chauvinism, obviously pro-life groups will tell you this is about protecting the sanctity of unborn life but do you see the same sort of chauvinism and misogyny that gives rise to the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers?”
Wagner didn’t specify how pro-lifers are “chauvinist” or “misogynist” but she didn’t need to because Hill jumped right into the fray and lied through her teeth in a rambling and incoherent answer.
Hill recalled how former Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg claimed her “conservative colleagues on the court, were on this unrestrained course to corral rights in this country,” which apparently included “racism in employment, as well as sexual harassment in employment.”
“Dobbs is that is part of what she was complaining about,” Hill insisted. Adding that “the right part of the conservative part of the courts, to really limit and disrespect the granting of rights. The extension of civil rights.”
Proving once again that she’s just as big of a liar as she was over thirty years ago, Hill repeated the thoroughly debunked lie that the Supreme Court is inclined to rehear the so-called right to same-sex marriage. Hill claimed Thomas is “giving every indication that he's willing to hear LGBTQ rights put on trial again.”
Wagner apparently agreed with everything Hill said since she responded: “Right, it's not a question of the judiciary or the legislature or the gubernatorial races. It's all interlinked.”
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MSNBC’s Alex Wagner Tonight
9/27/2022
9:52:51 p.m. EasternALEX WAGNER: Do you see the Dobbs decision, I'll set Clarence Thomas aside, but do you see the Republican zeal to control a woman's body as an extension of that chauvinism, obviously pro-life groups will tell you this is about protecting the sanctity of unborn life, but do you see the same sort of chauvinism and misogyny that gives rise to the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, do you see in an extension of that in the Dobbs decision related to state abortion bans?
ANITA HILL: You know, I see a lot in Dobbs. And I'm going to go back to 2013 when Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote just a phrase in one of her dissents that said that her colleagues, on the conservative colleagues on the court, were on this unrestrained course to corral rights in this country. Civil rights in this country. And what she was talking about was employment discrimination, specifically racism in employment, as well as sexual harassment in employment. And what she predicted was basically, if we continue this path, we are going to be setting back precedent that we have -- had thought that was there, protections, that we thought you know, going to be with us forever.
WAGNER: Yeah.
HILL: And I think what we are seeing with Dobbs is that is part of what she was complaining about. This, that this is a tendency of the left, excuse me, the right part of the conservative part of the courts, to really limit and disrespect the granting of rights. The extension of civil rights. So I don't see Dobbs as separate from the removal of protections of sexual harassment in the workplace, for example. And that's what Ginsburg was complaining about back in 2013.
I just see this as following a pattern that she identified and that will continue. Already in the Dobbs, decision, and concurring opinions, Thomas concurring opinions, he's giving every or he's giving every indication that he's willing to hear LGBTQ rights put on trial again. Same-sex marriage put on trial again. And so we know, we have had this message for a while. But I think what we do have in this country is this tendency to try to divide and conquer.
WAGNER: Yeah.
HILL: And so and we are trying to divide the rights to an abortion, from the many other rights and we need to see them all together.
WAGNER: Right, it's not a question of the judiciary or the legislature or the gubernatorial races. It's all interlinked.
HILL: It is.
