22-year-old Indiana resident and legal gun carrier Elisjsha Dicken became a hero Sunday night after he drew his firearm and neutralized a mass shooter. Certainly, a hero in the eyes of any sensible person. But in the eyes of most of the cast of ABC’s The View on Tuesday, he was just as bad as the mass shooter. They smeared him and falsely claimed he “broke the law” by carrying his gun into the mall. They even denied that good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns.
These attacks on lawful gun carriers were started by co-host Joy Behar who tried to deny the fact that good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns. “They say that a good guy with a gun can control a bad guy with a gun. Well, we saw in Uvalde that that’s not true,” she screeched, backed up by Whoopi Goldberg who noted the Buffalo shooting.
But Republican Lindsey Granger was on hand to clap back, noting that “But we saw that it is true in Indiana.” “It was true in Indiana. That was a lucky moment,” Behar scoffed.
A short time later, co-host Sunny Hostin lashed out at Dicken for daring to put an end to the mass shooting. Noting her own alleged training with firearms, she decried the hero taking shots at a moving target:
But with this good Samaritan thing. Listen, I was trained when I was at the justice department in firearms. And I was trained in defensive firearm training. It is very hard to hit a moving target. It is hard for people that are trained to hit a moving target. It is very lucky that that good Samaritan hit that moving target in that way.
Essentially, Hostin is upset because he’s clearly a better shot than she is and has confidence in his proficiency.
“He had a gun permit but he wasn’t supposed in the mall with a gun,” she added. She then falsely accused him of being a criminal suggesting “he broke that law” by having his gun in the mall.
But that is a dangerous lie.
Indiana has what’s been termed “constitutional carry” which means he can carry concealed in public without issue.
In a report by the Indianapolis Star, attorney and firearms instructor Guy Relford explained to the paper how “the fact that (Greenwood Park Mall) had a no-gun policy creates no legal issue whatsoever for this gentleman … and it certainly has no effect whatsoever on his ability to use force to defend himself or to defend the other people in the mall.”
He described it as a “‘no shoes, no shirt, no service’ sign” and “a business owner can demand that the customer leaves. And if the customer ignores that demand, the customer is now trespassing, which is an Indiana crime.”
The mall's administrators have also shown their support for Dicken. "We are grateful for the strong response of the first responders, including the heroic actions of the Good Samaritan who stopped the suspect," they said in a statement on their website.
“The law of Indiana is different than the law of the mall, of Simon malls. And I would say that takes precedence when you save a life,” Granger shot back at Hostin. And as Hostin prepared a ridiculous “what if” scenario, Goldberg frantically ended the segment and went to a commercial. “Guys, I got to go. I got to go. I'm sorry. We got to go. We'll be right back,” she shouted.
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ABC’s The View
July 19, 2022
11:17:26 a.m. Eastern(…)
JOY BEHAR: They say that a good guy with a gun can control a bad guy with a gun. Well, we saw in Uvalde that that’s not true.
WHOOPI GOLDBERG: And you saw it in Buffalo.
BEHAR: Yes. We saw it in Buffalo.
LINDSEY GRANGER: But we saw that it is true in Indiana.
BEHAR: It was true in Indiana. That was a lucky moment.
And you know what? I feel like this: if you're a good guy with a gun you should not object to background checks or licensing or, you know, limitation on military-style weapons that kill thousands at once. Or hundreds at once. So, why can't they just pull that off?
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SUNNY HOSTIN: I'm surprised that the chief in Uvalde just hasn't resigned like he resigned from the board, because there's shame in what he did. The other 400 officers I am surprised that they did not act. I am not surprised they were afraid of the AR-15.
I am not surprised at that because my brother-in-law was a police officer, I have family members that are police officers. And the one thing I know they want to get home too. And they are terrified of those AR-15s. And I'm surprised that police unions aren't coming out for more gun reform when it comes to that particular weapon. It's shocking to me. I want my family members that are officers to come home. I want all police officers to come home as well.
But with this good Samaritan thing. Listen, I was trained when I was at the justice department in firearms. And I was trained in defensive firearm training. It is very hard to hit a moving target. It is hard for people that are trained to hit a moving target. It is very lucky that that good Samaritan hit that moving target in that way. And he wasn’t supposed to – He had a gun permit but he wasn’t supposed in the mall with a gun.
BEHAR: He had the AR-15 that guy.
HOSTIN: So, he broke that law even though he was a good Samaritan.
GRANGER: The law of Indiana is different than the law of the mall, of Simon malls. And I would say that takes precedence when you save a life.
HOSTIN: Well – well, he saved a life, but what if he –
GOLDBERG: Guys, I got to go. I got to go. I'm sorry. We got to go. We'll be right back.
