Hayes Politicizes NYC Shooting, Frets SCOTUS Will Approve Concealed Carry

April 12th, 2022 11:04 PM

In light of the tragic shooting on a New York City subway Tuesday morning, MSNBC’s All In host Chris Hayes decided to dedicate an entire segment of his show to push for gun control, with the leftist host admitting one of the first thoughts that crossed his mind was the fact that the United States Supreme Court might greenlight concealed carry in all fifty states. 

“[T]his mass shooting happened in the context of a larger spike in violence. A larger spike of gun violence, particularly, I'm struck today by the fact that we got very lucky with what the death toll appears to be so far,” Hayes said while also surmising that the injuries and death toll were this low because “it was a handgun, not a long gun or an AR-15 style rifle” that was used in the shooting. 

Hayes then went to one of his two guests, Kris Brown of the radically anti-gun Brady Campaign who proceeded to lobby for more gun control laws. “Over 45,000 people killed with guns across this country in preventable gun violence. And what we need is to expand the Brady law and ensure background checks,” she declared as if background checks weren't already required federally.  

After Brown’s pro-gun control rant, Hayes actually admitted what his initial thoughts were when he found out about the tragedy on the NYC subway: 

[M]y immediate thought today when I saw this was, obviously concern for the people there. Was that there is a Supreme Court case right now, a challenge that would basically, essentially strike down New York gun laws, and essentially find that the constitution gives a right for everyone to carry a gun in any state no matter what that state's laws are when they go out to the subway. And in fact, in oral arguments, Samuel Alito said don't you need a gun on the subway? 

 

 

It’s not surprising that Hayes was thinking about his leftist political agenda during a tragedy, the shocking thing was that he admitted it out loud. 

It should also be noted that Hayes suggested the United States Constitution doesn’t give citizens the right to carry a gun in all fifty states. I would suggest he read the 2nd and 10th Amendments to the Constitution. And even if it didn't and it was just a newly cooked-up thought as he's claimed in the past, what happened to the Constitution being a "living document?"

Turning to his other guest Rebecca Fischer, Executive Director of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence, who proceeded to panic at the possibility of the Supreme Court striking down New York’s strict concealed carry laws. 

“Right, now we are waiting for a decision from the court that can potentially overhaul our strong public carry law,” she whined. Adding: “New York has one of the strongest concealed carry laws of the nation that really allows law enforcement to have a lot of discretion in terms of whether they issue a license to carry in public or not.” 

How strong can New York's gun control laws be if these shootings keep happening? They obviously have the opposite intended effect. That's not to mention that it leaves the permitting process open to the flawed discretion of people.

Hayes predictably agreed with Fischer, and took it a step further, personally attacking concealed carry advocates, and claiming that wanting to legally carry a gun for protection “can only be entertained by someone who’s like clearly gone around the bend on Fox News or has never set foot on the subway or both.”

This doesn't take into account the fact that in order to buy a gun and obtain a concealed carry permit, one must pass a background check, thus statistically, they're more responsible and safer with guns. But those are hard facts Hayes doesn't care to tell his audience about.

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To read the relevant transcript of this segment click expand: 

MSNBC’s All In 
4/12/2022
8:34:37 p.m. Eastern 

CHRIS HAYES: Kris, this mass shooting happened in the context of a larger spike in violence. A larger spike of gun violence, particularly, I'm struck today by the fact that we got very lucky with what the death toll appears to be so far. And that it was a handgun, not a long gun or an AR-15 style rifle, which have been used in other incidents. People are saying, well, New York has gun laws, but this seems to be a significant aspect of this so far. 

KRIS BROWN (PRESIDENT OF BRADY):  Yes, of course. We know, Chris, that often, far too often, AR-style weapons are mass shooter weapons of choice because of the ability to attach high-capacity magazines and fire many, many, many, many bullets. Hundreds of bullets, potentially. Like we see in horrific mass shootings across the country. No doubt, that there are people who will survive and are alive today because an assault-style weapon was not used. But it doesn't change the terror of those people who are on the subway. And of course, the feeling of lack of safety associated with this. 

And that's really the point, Chris, is we see a huge spike, as you noted, in death and injury. Associated with guns. In 2020, it’s the highest year on record that's the latest data we have. Over 45,000 people killed with guns across this country in preventable gun violence. And what we need is to expand the Brady law and ensure background checks. And Chris, one thing I do want to note, is that the police have apparently recovered a weapon, and they're tracing that weapon. Because it has a serial number on it. Yesterday, the President, one of the things he did is ban ghost guns. We've seen these proliferate all across the country. They're un-serialized, making any kind of tracing like what's happening here absolutely impossible. So, we have to treat this like the public health epidemic it is, and really attack this in a comprehensive nature, all of our safety in all of our public places is at risk if we don't take this very very seriously.  

HAYES: Yeah, I should note just to contextualize, that 45,000 number, that's all gun fatalities. About, I’m pulling this from memory, around two-thirds of those tend to be suicide, and about a third of those, I think homicide. Somewhere in that neighborhood just so people have that in mind. And Rebecca, this happened on a subway. And my immediate thought today when I saw this was, obviously concern for the people there. Was that there is a Supreme Court case right now, a challenge that would basically, essentially strike down New York gun laws, and essentially find that the constitution gives a right for everyone to carry a gun in any state no matter what that state's laws are when they go out to the subway. And in fact, in oral arguments, Samuel Alito said don't you need a gun on the subway?  

REBECCA FISCHER (NEW YORKERS AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR): That's right, Chris. Right, now we are waiting for a decision from the court that can potentially overhaul our strong public carry law. New York has one of the strongest concealed carry laws of the nation that really allows law enforcement to have a lot of discretion in terms of whether they issue a license to carry in public or not. Unfortunately, when we look at the data, states across the country that have weak public carry laws have much higher death rates because more guns in public leads to more gun violence. And, really, as a New Yorker, and as a member of the Brooklyn community, seeing what happened today is traumatic. People do wait to see what those fatality numbers are. But the reality is that injuries themselves have affected victims. The families are traumatized in those communities.  

HAYES: Yeah, the notion that New York City subways would be safer with more people packing guns on them is such a demonstrably insane idea. It can only be entertained by someone who’s like clearly gone around the bend on Fox News or has never set foot on the subway or both.