Former NBC and CBS anchor Katie Couric welcomed Congresswoman and progressive hero Jasmine Crockett to her Thursday recording of the Next Question podcast. While podcasting may be growing in popularity as a way for people to get their news, the habit of anchors to sit back and do nothing as Democratic guests say outlandish things remains constant because Couric would simply sit there as Crockett accused President Trump’s supporters of being “sick” and part of the country’s mental health crisis.
Couric simply let Crockett rant after she asked, “I want to talk to you about some of the things that are going on in this country, Jasmine. Before you go, what do you think about what has happened in LA and calling up the National Guard, the Marines and basically saying this could happen in every state in our country?”
Crockett put on a façade that displayed heavy amounts of solemnity, “I truly have no words. You know, you grow up as a little girl and—you grow up as a little girl in this country, let me clarify that, and you think, 'man, this is a great place to live and it's only going to get better,' and then you become the adult version of me, and you have a president that is openly just a criminal, like not just the convictions he's got, consistently breaking laws, ignoring court orders, violating the Constitution, and doing it all because he really is seeking this retribution, this retribution that he campaigned on.”
She continued, “And so this idea that we don't care how many people get hurt, we don't care how we prostitute our service members, you know, thinking that you have your own special little army that's for you. I mean, it is just it is sick. It is really sick, and anybody that supports it is also sick. And so you know, we've got a mental health crisis in this country because everyone, no matter how you affiliate yourself, should be against Trump. Period.”
Crockett will call black Republicans Uncle Toms, but she still claims she just wants a different GOP, “This is not partisan for me. Like, I would give anything to have, sad to say, George Bush. I, like, give me any regular Republican nowadays, and I would be happy. But right now we have someone who does not care, and he is being enabled by the fact that there are, you know, people that follow him and they pump him up as well as the people that are surrounding him.”
Additionally, Crockett insisted, “My heart breaks for service members. People that signed up to protect democracy and freedom not only here but abroad, and we're willing to risk their lives, and now literally the very thing that they signed up to fight against is now their commander-in-chief. It really breaks my heart, and I don't know how far he has to go before we can come together and just say, 'Enough is enough, like this should not be partisanship.'”
Next Question is considered by some people in the podcasting industry to be award-worthy, but it turns out it is really no different than MSNBC, which is what it sounds like Couric wanted all along.
Here is a transcript for the June 19 show:
Next Question with Katie Couric
6/18/2025
52 Minutes, 55 Seconds
KATIE COURIC: I want to talk to you about some of the things that are going on in this country, Jasmine. Before you go, what do you think about what has happened in LA and calling up the National Guard, the Marines and basically saying this could happen in every state in our country?
JASMINE CROCKETT: I truly have no words. You know, you grow up as a little girl and—you grow up as a little girl in this country, let me clarify that, and you think, “man, this is a great place to live and it's only going to get better,” and then you become the adult version of me, and you have a president that is openly just a criminal, like not just the convictions he's got, consistently breaking laws, ignoring court orders, violating the Constitution, and doing it all because he really is seeking this retribution, this retribution that he campaigned on.
He said, “I will be your retribution.” And so this idea that we don't care how many people get hurt, we don't care how we prostitute our service members, you know, thinking that you have your own special little army that's for you. I mean, it is just it is sick. It is really sick, and anybody that supports it is also sick. And so you know, we've got a mental health crisis in this country because everyone, no matter how you affiliate yourself, should be against Trump. Period.
This is not partisan for me. Like, I would give anything to have, sad to say, George Bush. I, like, give me any regular Republican nowadays, and I would be happy. But right now we have someone who does not care, and he is being enabled by the fact that there are, you know, people that follow him and they pump him up as well as the people that are surrounding him.
And so, you know, I, my heart breaks for service members. People that signed up to protect democracy and freedom not only here but abroad, and we're willing to risk their lives, and now literally the very thing that they signed up to fight against is now their commander-in-chief. It really breaks my heart, and I don't know how far he has to go before we can come together and just say, “Enough is enough, like this should not be partisanship.”
