The journalists at MSNBC on Tuesday night were beside themselves, sputtering over the “obscene” Donald Trump “lifting his leg and peeing on our democracy” during the first presidential debate. Immediately following the debate, Brian Williams fretted, “What a dark event we have just witnessed.”
While discussing whether Joe Biden should even attend the second presidential debate, Nicolle Wallace offered this gross comparison: “Joe Biden has to go [to the next debate] because you don't stand up to a bully who is trying to do whatever he's doing, lift his leg and pee on our democracy, by not showing up and standing up to the bully.”
Regarding the constantly interrupting moderator Chris Wallace, Wallace spun him as a victim of the “abuser” Trump: “Chris Wallace did not act as a moderator. Donald Trump was the abused, and Chris Wallace was among those abused. Also among the abused, his opponent who had a debate challenger who was cheating.”
Rachel Maddow erupted over the President’s “obscene” lies: “He's arguing that he should stay in office and the election should be negated. He treated the debate that way, with just a monstrous, just cavalcade of increasingly wild and obscene lies.” Maddow then insisted that this type of debate shouldn’t even happen:
This is the sort of thing that shouldn't happen. This sort of debate shouldn't happen in a democracy, not one in which we decide or think we choose between candidates based on them proposing competing sides of an argument.
Maddow also accused Trump of "lying about the Vice President's dead son in Iraq" when the President was clearly talking about Hunter Biden. Not Beau Biden.
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A partial transcript is below:
MSNBC post debate coverage
9/29/202010:39
BRIAN WILLIAMS: it's all over including the shouting in Cleveland, as we will keep our camera trained on the hall at the end of this, as you may know, a limited crowd present. What a dark event we have just witnessed.
10:44
MADDOW: The fact that they ended this by him saying the election doesn't matter to him, that ballots — that 80 million ballots will overwhelm the system, you know it, therefore the ballots shouldn't be counted. He is not participating in a re-election campaign. He's arguing that he should stay in office and the election should be negated. He treated the debate that way, with just a monstrous, just cavalcade of increasingly wild and obscene lies, including lying about the Vice President's dead son in Iraq as a way of trying to score points on it while that part of the debate arrived. There is something beyond fact checking that needs to happen here. This is the sort of thing that shouldn't happen. This sort of debate shouldn't happen in a democracy, not one in which we decide or think we choose between candidates based on them proposing competing sides of an argument.
10:45NICOLLE WALLACE: Look, I just want to give voice to what is probably the elephant in the room for those that have moderated debates. Chris Wallace did not act as a moderator. Donald Trump was the abused, and Chris Wallace was among those abused. Also among the abused, his opponent who had a debate challenger who was cheating. I mean, those were not the rules. I mean, I have participated in debate negotiations. There are rules. Donald Trump didn't follow them. And the debate moderator didn't hold his feet to the fire. And everyone who was suggesting there was nothing he could do, try driving down the freeway in a rainstorm with an eight-year-old in the back screaming. There is always something you can do, You take the iPad and throw it out the window. There is always something you can deprive a misbehaved child of. In this case, it was Donald Trump's need of air time. I wonder what the conversations being had among the subsequent moderators about what to do with an abusive participant.
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10:52
WALLACE: Joe Biden has to go [to the next debate] because you don't stand up to a bully who is trying to do whatever he's doing, lift his leg and pee on our democracy by not showing up and standing up to the bully. You stand there because you made a deal, and you hold up your end of the deal. I don't Joe Biden did himself any harm tonight.
