On CNN, Anthony Scaramucci Accuses Trump of 'Objective Criminality'

November 26th, 2019 5:27 PM

"Mooch's Revenge" could be the working title for the series of interviews that CNN's Alisyn Camerota has conducted with Anthony Scaramucci. Since some time after President Trump fired him as Communications Director after a tenure that was record-setting for its brevity, Scaramucci has been carrying out a one-man vendetta against his former boss. And CNN will gladly book any Trump servant who will viciously turn on the boss. 

In today's installment, the Mooch:

  • Found it "revolting" that Nikki Haley and Rick Perry had alluded to President Trump as "the chosen one."
  • Said that people who praise Trump are "cowards," unlike himself, who knows how to "fight bullies."
  • Claimed that the impeachment hearings revealed that President Trump was guilty of "objective criminality." He questioned whether the president should be "allowed to stay in office."
  • Regarding a Washington Post article on Stephen Miller, said President Trump "doesn't know how to manage, doesn't know how to lead, and is running a pernicious culture inside the White House."



The segment's end was revealingly hilarious about The Mooch's desperate need for the limelight. When Camerota politely brought things to a close, a peeved Scaramucci didn't want to let go: "Happy Thanksgiving, that’s how we’re ending the thing?" Co-host John Berman, who had not been part of the interview, intervened to ask "you want like a curtain call or something?" The Mooch is almost literally the ham actor clinging to the curtain to avoid being removed from the stage.

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Here's the transcript.

CNN's New Day
7:37 a.m. Eastern

ALISYN CAMEROTA: President Trump's supporters are beginning to use some interesting language about him--it's biblical.

RICK PERRY: Mr. President, I know there are people who say, you know, you say you are the chosen one. And I said, you were!

NIKKI HALEY: I think that G-d sometimes places people for lessons, and sometimes places people for change. 


CAMEROTA: Anthony, you know your way around the Bible. What is that? What are Rick Perry and Nikki Haley doing by using that language?


ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI: It's a little revolting, if you want me to be candid.

CAMEROTA: What's revolting about it?

SCARAMUCCI: Because I think there's a disingenousness to what politicians are saying about the president. Down deep, their objective, they're smart people, both Governor Perry and Governor Haley in the past have said things about the president that I think are probably more congruent with reality than what they're saying today. And so, it's a little bit disingenuous. 


Last week, I watched that. I saw objective criminality coming from the office of the president. 

CAMEROTA: In the hearings?

SCARAMUCCI: In the hearings. But I'm now looking at the thing objectively, and saying the guy has done really bad, criminal things. And so now what are we going to do as a society? Are we going to allow him to stay in office as a result of that? And so that's the personality cult.


CAMEROTA: Hold on a second. There's a lot of politicians that don't inspire this kind of fealty and this kind of loyalty, that people don't refer to as "the chosen one." There's something different about President Trump.

SCARAMUCCI: He's using an anvil and a hammer with his Twitter feed, and none of those people want to get caught in that crossfire. Particularly if they think they have political ambitions, they don't want to be caught in that slamming that the president is capable of doing. He has an intimidating, bullying style. If you're a fellow New Yorker, you could care less. I know how to play with bullies. I know how to fight bullies. But most of these people are cowards.     


You know, The Washington Post I think is a very credible organization, so let's accept everything thing is true [in its recent article about Stephen Miller] in what they've just written . . . And so whether he's a white supremacist, it's more important about the leader. What does the leader stand for, and what is the culture inside the White House? And so my point is, forget about Stephen Miller: I think he's a minor player. It's President Trump.

CAMEROTA: Really? Because it sounds like he has President Trump's ear, and by the way, if this culture exists within the White House, what does it say about President Trump?

SCARAMUCCI: Well, that's my point. It says that President Trump doesn't know how to manage, he doesn't know how to lead, and he's running a pernicious culture inside the White House. And so those are all very negative things. But if you think the president is listening to Stephen Miller, then you haven't been paying attention for the last four years.

The president listens to nobody. He takes nobody's counsel. And the fear for the United States and for the world, he's going to be sitting there for four years with his Twitter account open, listening to absolutely nobody, and getting nuttier and nuttier over the next four or five years. And so, it's a President Trump issue for me more than it is a Stephen Miller issue, but if Stephen Miller didn't answer for that stuff, I would be firing the guy.

CAMEROTA: Anthony Scaramucci, thank you.

SCARAMUCCI: Happy Thanksgiving. That's how we're ending the thing?

CAMEROTA: That's how we end.

SCARAMUCCI: Happy Thanksgiving? Okay, G-d bless.

JOHN BERMAN: What are you? Do you want like a curtain call or something? You want another --

SCARAMUCCI: A high five. I mean, it's Thanksgiving.     

BERMAN: You say goodbye. Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving to you. 

SCARAMUCCI: A high five or something. I don't know.