During an exclusive interview with the widow of Muhammad Ali on Tuesday’s NBC Today, co-host Matt Lauer worried: “Muhammad's message was to bring people together, and we live in a time right now in this country, and around the world, when there’s so much division. And I wonder in the last years of his life, was he disappointed and distressed by that?”
Lonnie Ali replied: “He was pretty distressed, especially some of the things that were going on in the world, because he thought that we had sort of crossed a line, crossed the barrier. And he was a little disappointed with that.”
Lauer followed up by fretting over the tone of American discourse following recent terrorist attacks:
I remember, you sent me a message from Muhammad after some of the anti-Muslim rhetoric that started to go around in the wake of some ISIS-inspired attacks, and it was profound and it was moving and it was powerful and I missed his voice. You know, I wish so much that he could have spoken the words he wrote.
At the time of Ali’s passing in June, NBC used the opportunity to celebrate his left-wing activism early in his boxing career and conveniently edited out his support for Republicans like Ronald Reagan later in life.
Here is a full transcript of the August 23 exchange:
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MATT LAUER: Muhammad's message was to bring people together, and we live in a time right now in this country, and around the world, when there’s so much division. And I wonder in the last years of his life, was he disappointed and distressed by that?
LONNIE ALI: He was pretty distressed, especially some of the things that were going on in the world, because he thought that we had sort of crossed a line, crossed the barrier. And he was a little disappointed with that. But you know, Muhammad was a man of eternal optimism, he always believed in the power of humanity. And that’s what he touched in most people.
LAUER: I remember, you sent me a message from Muhammad after some of the anti-Muslim rhetoric that started to go around in the wake of some ISIS-inspired attacks, and it was profound and it was moving and it was powerful and I missed his voice. You know, I wish so much that he could have spoken the words he wrote.
ALI: But this is what this movement that we are doing now with – there is Ali in all of us. And why I say Ali in all of us, it's the humanity in all of us. Because that's what Muhammad always touched in people, was their humanity. Regardless, he could always see it.
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