Seldom are the Regime Media made to look as smugly biased and factually unprepared as in this contentious exchange between GOP vice presidential nominee Senator JD Vance (OH) and ABC’s Jon Karl, over Minnesota’s “transgender sanctuary law”.
Watch as Vance completely annihilates Jon Karl’s smarmy line of “fact-based” questioning over Minnesota’s law, which was predicated upon a citation of former President Donald Trump (click “expand” to view full transcript):
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ABC THIS WEEK
8/11/24
9:16 AM
JON KARL: And finally before you go, we commit to this race to kind of sticking to the facts? I mean, I heard Donald Trump give this speech in Montana he just gave, and he said that Tim Walz has signed a letter letting the state kidnap children to change their gender, that- allowing pedophiles to claim, you know, I mean, to be exempt from crimes. This is not true. It's not remotely true.
VANCE: What President Trump said, and I haven't watched the whole rally, but…
KARL: What he said was not true.
VANCE: What President Trump said, Jon, is that Tim Walz has supported taking children from their parents if the parents don't consent to gender reassignment. That is crazy. And, by the way, Tim Walz gets on his high horse about “mind your own damn business.” One way of minding your own damn business, Jon, is to not try to take my children away from me if I have different moral views than you.
KARL: He has not signed a law into the state to kidnap children to change their identity, Jon.
KARL: That's crazy.
VANCE: He has absolutely done this stuff… It’s not crazy, Jon. C’mon.
KARL: It's not what he signed.
VANCE: You should not be able to take people’s children away from them...
KARL: And that’s not what he’s proposed.
VANCE: If you disagree with decisions about gender reassignment- yes he has, proposed that, Jon. He absolutely has. Now, here's the more important thing, Jon. Why aren’t we talking about inflation? Why aren't we talking about the fact that groceries are unaffordable thanks to Kamala Harris' policies and so is housing? We've talked a little bit about the border. Why aren't we talking about the fact that the entire world is on fire because of Kamala Harris' foreign policy? She's just asleep at the wheel. We have a set of plans. You talk about sticking to the facts. Donald Trump and I have a set of plans…
KARL: (unint)
VANCE: ...to lower the costs of housing and food. To bring peace back to the world with American leadership. That is all that we want to do, and I think it's telling that the Harris Administration is focused so much on these side issues instead of on the real substance…
KARL: I mean, we're…
VANCE: …why Americans are unhappy with Kamala Harris' leadership.
KARL: To be clear, I just asked you about Donald Trump brought up, not something the Harris campaign brought up. I was asking you about Donald Trump’s words, but thank you…thank you…
VANCE: No, I’m saying, that… we're talking about the Harris campaign. What are their policy views? They don't have a policy position on their website. Should she sit down and answer tough questions with you?
KARL: Yes. Absolutely.
VANCE: I think she should. Where is she? But we respect the American People enough…
KARL: We- we hope she’ll be on the show soon.
VANCE: I hope so too, Jon, because the person who wants to be our president ought to sit down for some tough interviews. I'm willing to do it and I wish she would too.
KARL: All right. JD Vance. Thanks for your time. We really appreciate it.
VANCE: Thanks, Jon, Appreciate it, man.
The sage political strategist Mike Tyson once noted that everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face. Karl’s plan was to try to put Vance into a defensive posture over what Trump hay have said at his Bozeman, MT rally. But it appears that Karl didn’t do his homework first.
Minnesota did, in fact, pass a bill establishing itself as a “trans refuge state”. Per the Minnesota House’s own statement upon passage of the bill:
Specifically, the bill would prohibit the enforcement of a court order for removal of a child or enforcement of another state’s law being applied in a pending child protection action in Minnesota when the law of another state allows the child to be removed from the parent or guardian for receiving medically necessary health care or mental health care that respects the gender-identity of the patient.
The text of the bill’s language might read like confusing legalese, but The Washington Post’s writeup does not.
In March 2023, Walz issued an executive order protecting trans patients’ ability to receive medical care that helps them live according to their gender identity. The order shields patients, parents and providers from punishment by other states for seeking and delivering such care. The next month, he signed legislation enshrining similar protections that supporters said would establish Minnesota as a “trans refuge.”
After Vice President Kamala Harris named Walz as her running mate, conservatives began attacking those actions, falsely accusing him of allowing the state to terminate parental custody if parents prevent their trans children from receiving gender-affirming care.
The Minnesota law allows courts to have “temporary emergency jurisdiction” during custody disputes crossing state lines if a child has been unable to obtain gender-affirming care. Kat Rohn, executive director of OutFront, an LGBTQ+ advocacy organization in St. Paul, Minn., said the law gives courts the ability to resolve conflicts when parents disagree on whether their child should receive gender-affirming care; it does not remove custody from parents who decline such care.
Even this is dishonest. If a court, which assumed emergency jurisdiction, awards custody to a parent wanting to transition their child over one who does not, then in fact custody was ripped from parents not wanting their child to be pumped full of hormones prior to sex-change mutilation.
Also not mentioned: that courts are required to rule based on what they determine is "in the best interests of the child". Nothing stops a rogue judge from stripping a child from their parents if they deem it is in the child's best interest to enter into "gender affirmation therapy" in advance of sex-change mutilation.
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But the unprepared Karl smugly laughs this off, saying “that’s crazy”. Once Vance thoroughly and decisively pantses him over the Minnesota law, he pivots on to inflation, prices, and Kamala Harris’s general unavailability to the media for unscripted questions. Karl can at this point do little more than muster hope that Harris graces them with an interview, and ends the interview.
It often is the case that the Regime Media dismiss as “crazy”, “unhinged”, or “conspiracy theories” anything that makes the left look bad, only to pretend that they never did such a thing when confronted with the facts. This was also the case today, with Karl smarmily trying to make anyone opposed to the pumping full of hormones and surgical mutilation of children as "crazy".
Unfortunately for Karl, Vance came loaded for bear.
