This won't surprise anyone who reads this blog regularly, but it needs to get on the record nonetheless: The airing of a June video showing interim White House Communications Director Anita Dunn praising Mao and Mother Teresa as "two of my favorite philosophers" to a group of high school students is barely news in the establishment press.
In an August 2008 report on the Obama campaign, Anne E. Kornblut of the Washington Post also described Dunn as "as senior adviser" who had joined the campaign "in the spring."
Roger Kimball at Pajamas Media has the video of Dunn's speech. NB's Jeff Poor (covering Glenn Beck's original broadcast that broke the story) and P.J. Gladnick (on Dunn's pathetic attempt to excuse herself) have previously dealt with Dunn's speech.
Here are the Mao-relevant portions of the speech excerpt:
.... the third lesson and tip actually comes from two of my favorite political philosophers - Mao Tse Tung and Mother Teresa, not often coupled with each other but the two people that I turn to most to basically deliver a simple point, which is you're going to make choices.
.... In 1947, when Mao Tse Tung was being challenged within his own party on his plan to basically take China over, Chiang Kai-Shek and the nationalist Chinese held the cities, they had the army. They had the air force. They had everything on their side, and people said how can you win? How can you do this? How can you do this? Against all the odds against you, and Mao Tse Tung said, you know, you fight your war, and I'll fight mine, and think about that for a second.
"Mao: The Unknown Story" is probably the most thorough compilation of Mao's destructive legacy. Authors Jung Chang and Jon Halliday contend in an interview carried at the Amazon link that "Mao was responsible for the deaths of well over 70 million Chinese in peacetime."
What follows is a round-up of the establishment media's reaction to the Dunn revelation.
Here is what I found in a search on "Anita Dunn" (typed with quote marks at the Associated Press:

At the New York Times, the same search request came back with two relevant results:
- First, there's a ridiculously biased "Week in Review" piece ("The Battle Between the White House and Fox News") that appeared in that section's front page in today's print edition by David Carr that is dated October 17 online. Though the story more than likely went to print 36 hours or more after Glenn Beck aired the Dunn speech excerpt Thursday evening, Carr made no reference to Dunn's Mao-is-a-fave speech.
- Then there's a Friday afternoon Caucus Blog post ("White House Vs. Fox: Chairman Mao"). The post does refer to Dunn's speech, carries the YouTube vid, and also carries Dunn's shameless "Lee Atwater also quoted Mao" justification attempt. That's nice, but in my opinion keeping the news at the Caucus Blog with a with a conveniently uninformative "this is nothing" headline is a "clever" way for the Times to claim "See, we covered it," while ensuring that print edition readers, most of whom will never see the blog entry, don't see it.
Now let's get to the the Washington Post. A search on Dunn's name in quotes at about 10:15 a.m. came back with two relevant items.
Readers will love the first one. At the end of a "Live Fix" online exchange with readers on Friday, the Post's Chris Cillizza had this testy exchange with "Dunn Loring VA":
Dunn Loring, VA: Questions about Rak Goyle, ok, questions about Anita Dunn, avoided. Isn't the WH communications director and her crusade against Fox more newsworthy? Are you afraid of what she might do if you address her admitted love of Mao in your chat?
Chris Cillizza: HMMM. No.
I think the WH made a strategic move to publicly hammer FNC and they used Anita Dunn to do it because she is a veteran communicator who also happens to be the White House communications director.
Happy now, Dunn Loring?
The other item is Kathleen Parker's Sunday syndicated column, where the faux conservative's predictable reaction to the escalating fight between the Obama administration and Fox News is to "Let the little dogs yap, Mr. President." Parker's column first appeared on Friday at other outlets, so it's probable that she prepared it before Beck's program appeared.
Otherwise there is no straight-news coverage of Dunn's Mao reference in the Post.
A search on Dunn's name at the Los Angeles Times returns one item from yesterday noting that "Dunn's criticism of Fox News" will be a subject of conversation on CBS's "Sunday Morning" show.
After sorting by date, a Google News search covering October 15-18 on ["Anita Dunn" Mao] (typed as indicated between brackets) at about 10:45 this morning came back with 77 results. U.S. establishment press outlets make a up a precious few of those results. The ones I found came from:
- A blog post at the Chicago Tribune by Steve Chapman, who mostly makes excuses for Dunn.
- A Charleston Daily Mail blog item by Don Surber, who generally seems to have a stronger bond with the blogosphere than the media establishment.
- Kansas City Star columnist Yael T. Abouhalkeh.
- CNN International's coverage of Dunn's pitiful response, even more pitifully headlined ("Obama aide fires back at Beck over Mao remarks").
- A Christian Science Monitor item by Patrik Jonsson that obsesses over "irony."
Lynn Sweet at the Chicago Sun-Times put up the transcript of a press briefing by White House Deputy Press Secretary Bill Burton, which includes this priceless Q&A (bold is mine):
Q. One more question -- have you -- do you any comment on Anita Dunn's belief that Mao is one of her favorite political philosophers?
MR. BURTON: I caught some of that from the Glenn Beck show yesterday, but I don't think anybody takes it -- takes his attacks very seriously. We're just -- you know, we go day to day in this White House trying to ensure that people know the truth about the policies and programs and positions that the President holds, and we're going to continue to do that.
They take Beck sooooo not seriously, yet they're watching him. Sure, Bill.
Several other items that appear to represent establishment media coverage of the situation only appear because commenters at the respective links brought up the topic. Thanks to those commenters for literally doing the press's work for them. It's a shame that those commenters can't receive rewards for their efforts.
Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.
—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters




















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'Establishment Press' -
October 18, 2009 - 15:19 ET by notonmywatch'Establishment Press' - right on. So much truer than 'MSM'.
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Lamestream media
October 18, 2009 - 15:25 ET by 10ksnookerBetter yet ...
Obama is rotten to the
October 18, 2009 - 15:39 ET by ThisnThatObama is rotten to the core. His list of "advisors" now include avowed homosexuals, avowed communists, avowed socialists, people who publically hold up Mao as their hero, and so on. And what about Obama's election? Remember the campaign office with the Chevez posters? Remember Obama not saluting our Flag? Remember 5 days before the election when he said he was going to "fundamentally change" America?
This movement has been going on for decades, now, and all the stars are aligned. The left radicals have everyone in place -- Soros, Obama, the "press", colleges and universities, grades K-12, lower-level and community governments. Everybody in positions of low and high power to enact their America-destroying policies.
Abbetted and suported by the media who shut down all opposition with their silence or their PC proclamations, and who resort to outright lies these days to advance the agenda.
The only question is when the final hammer is going to come down? Now? Or in 2012?
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Would you please list the
October 18, 2009 - 15:53 ET by JerWould you please list the current advisors in the Obama adminisration who are "avowed communists", "avowed socialists", or have declared Mao to be their "hero".
Thanks.
Jer
Jer
October 18, 2009 - 15:55 ET by MrShyYawn
Thanks for that
October 18, 2009 - 16:00 ET by JerThanks for that scintillating insight, Shy. You may take your afternoon nap now.
Jer
Sleepwalking Jer
October 18, 2009 - 16:16 ET by MrShyThis, this, this, to start.
And, I know, I know. We all know your game. You want stamped/sealed certificates certifying that all of the top skunk's (Obama's -- and Soros's) minion skunks are indeed skunks.
Meanwhile, you come on and get cute with "show me PROOF" nonsense of socialists/communists (who, at best, sympathize and don't have a big problem going in this direction -- nothing here, people, move on), but that's about the best you have.
Otherwise, the rest of it you know is true (and I think you know it's all true):
If you don't care to see it, or you just get your kicks being a contrary thorn in everyone's side, then you're just another enemy within.
The enemy within?
October 18, 2009 - 17:19 ET by JerThat's sums up your problem perfectly, Shy. You see one having different political views, such as me for example, as anti-American and your "enemy". Very sad.
Jer
Jer, Shy... like me
October 18, 2009 - 20:01 ET by Dan The Man 2Jer, Shy... like me understands the Dems/left is the enemy and they are proving it so. The way to get rid of the enemy is deny them political office and expose their lies, while your kind say what proof and if presented give one of teh patened answers; It was out of context or an isolated example or any other excuse to lie away the truth.
Know how to keep a Troll in suspense? Ill tell ya in the morning.
Jer
October 18, 2009 - 22:10 ET by MrShyOnce again, you have no answer for that very truncated list of red flags (a tiny sampling of an endless list, as we've all documented around here.)
Jer the Useful Idiot
October 18, 2009 - 22:32 ET by MrShyAnd The Enemy Within.
A list of Obama's wonderful team (H/T scoob's link to American Thinker -- and some who've come and, thankfully, gone):
Google them, JtUI.
EDIT: Now give us your list of Team Obama people who are proponents of the free-market system.
Tick - tock - tick - tock - tick....
Van Jones is the Communist
October 18, 2009 - 22:33 ET by Scuba DudeVan Jones is the Communist for those who can't google for themselves and the Socialist would be Carol Browner. The others may be to varying degrees socialists/marxists/leftists. Do your OWN googling Jer.
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
Are you TnT's mouthpiece?
October 18, 2009 - 22:43 ET by JerAre you TnT's mouthpiece? It was his claim. It's not my responsibility to google anything until he provides the names.
Jer
ScoreCard
October 18, 2009 - 22:45 ET by Free StinkerScoob: 2
Integer Challenged Jer: -2
We are not at your beck
October 18, 2009 - 22:50 ET by Scuba DudeWe are not at your beck and call. We are not in a court of law so we do not have to respond to your every whim. Are you saying after being on NB for the amount of time your bio states that you do not read the articles? You do not read the comments? You cannot remember that all this has been discussed over numerous threads?
And us NB'rs for the most part back each other up. We do not have to be told to. You made a statement in an open forum so I and others responded. If you did not want us to respond you should have made the request to TnT in a PM to him.
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
Although sometimes.............
October 19, 2009 - 03:32 ET by old cro<comment deleted>
MrShy... Singer,
October 18, 2009 - 22:45 ET by JerMrShy...
Singer, musician, thong salesman, and the only 44-year old 4th grader in the USA.
Jer
Jer
October 18, 2009 - 23:22 ET by MrShyAnswer candance's question, useful idiot.
And enemy within.
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"Government, LAY OFF MY PORN!" - shawn228
Shy...
October 18, 2009 - 23:25 ET by JerWhat are you going to do if I don't, infant? Stomp your feet and hold your breath until your blue in the face?
Jer
Jer the.... everything....
October 18, 2009 - 23:42 ET by MrShyWow, so you've tied up this whole thread FAILING to refute TnT's points and FAILING to counter with even a single name of an Obama appointee who is not a hardcore leftist.
But you can't sign-off after being disgraced up and down this page.
'Night, Mr. Chicken Pot Pie.
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"Where's my porn???? Must. Have. Porn." - shawn228
Hillary Clinton is not a
October 19, 2009 - 00:09 ET by JerHillary Clinton is not a hardcore leftst. Timothy Geithner is not a hardcore leftist. Robert Gates is not a hardcore leftist. Ray LaHood is not a hardcore leftist. General James Jones is not a hardcore leftist. Larry Summers is not a hardcore leftist. Rahm Emanuel is not a hardcore leftist.
The list that is floating around is absurdly biased.
Jer
Jer, What is preventing
October 19, 2009 - 00:20 ET by Scuba DudeJer,
What is preventing you from answering Candance's question in a timely manner?
Also, to say that a particular list that is floating around is absurdly biased is well......biased. What list are you talking about?
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
The list from the American
October 19, 2009 - 00:27 ET by JerThe list from the American Thinker which you posted. No one can read that and reasonably claim it to be an objective presentation and analysis.
As far as Candance's question, I'm still pouring over hundreds of bios to see who may have listed John Adams as his or her personal hero. Maybe you can sift through those of the Bush administration members to see who their heroes may have been.
Jer
OPEN QUESTION
October 19, 2009 - 00:46 ET by Scuba DudeI do not wish to hijack Mr. Blumers thread, so if my fellow NB'rs could go to the Forums and respond to the question I have there I would appreciate it.
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
Mr. Shy, This thread is a keeper , Cool Arrow and the gang can
October 19, 2009 - 00:09 ET by upcountrywaterdo thread. Some of the best reading on the planet at the moment.
Oh , Shy it's Candance Moore, she now has an extra button at the bottom of her comment "box" now;
She can post graphs and photos maybe YT clips....
opps Eyeblast clips....
yee ha CD!!great job!
repent ,, I wonder what they meant?
click the link ↓
State controlled health care is Tort Reform.
jer
October 18, 2009 - 15:56 ET by katainkentNice pigeonhole you made there.
Well, kata, at
October 18, 2009 - 16:03 ET by JerWell, kata, at least your comment was considerably more profound than MrShy's.
Jer
Jer
October 18, 2009 - 16:11 ET by katainkentwhat would you do with yourself here if people didn't occassionally engage in hyperbole?
So by profound, do you also mean correct?
kata...
October 18, 2009 - 16:18 ET by JerI would have a lot more time on my hands, that's for sure.
And, no, you were not 'also correct', just more profound than Shy--which can generally be achieved by merely putting a couple of syllables together coherently
;-)
Jer.
ouch
October 18, 2009 - 16:36 ET by katainkentgosh thanks Jer. I don't appreciate being used as your catspaw for this continuing argument you have with Shy.
kata...
October 18, 2009 - 17:13 ET by JerThe difference is I just kid around with and about Shy. He tends to take things much too seriously. And nobody, and I mean nobody at NB can match Shy's penchant for tattletale behavior ["didja see?...didja see what Jer said on the other thread....we can't let him get away with it."] I'm sure you've noticed it. And I just engaged in it, but it's not my practice.
Jer
kata
October 18, 2009 - 23:18 ET by MrShyThe difference is I'm on NB to stay on topic about issues regarding politics and media, and Jer just kids around with people. He tends to kid around way too much. And nobody, and I meannobody at NB can match Jer's penchant for holding-a-grudge and score-keeping behavior ["I'm still waiting on my apology from so-and-so time/date..."] I'm sure you've noticed it. I work tirelessly not to engage in it, as it's not my practice, but he apparently hasn't a leg to stand on in his "centrist"/leftist world when it comes to many issues, so kidding around is all he has left.
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shawn228 can't get enough porn
just to play devil's advocate
October 18, 2009 - 15:59 ET by Candance MoorePlease show me anyone in his administration who is avowed to the free market system America has enjoyed for 200 years, or who says that John Adams is their hero.
→ No fair Candance
October 18, 2009 - 16:02 ET by Cool ArrowJust because they hate everything America stands for doesn't mean they're Communist.
Just trying to help Jer out a little.
CA
October 18, 2009 - 16:05 ET by Free StinkerI was going to ask why you're helping Jer, but I realized you feel pity for him.
It's tough on those Liberals when they are being beaten by a girl.
"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows." --Boris Epshteyn
→ Free
October 18, 2009 - 16:09 ET by Cool ArrowI didn't want Jer to resort to the Whoopi defense.
LOL!
October 18, 2009 - 16:10 ET by Free StinkerLOL!
Way to go, Free...
October 18, 2009 - 16:12 ET by JerI had intended to cut Candance some slack because I like her, but just for that wisecrack, I'm going to rip her to shreds and you will be responsible.
Jer
Jer
October 18, 2009 - 16:17 ET by Free StinkerI'm going to rip her to shreds and you will be responsible.
If you were actually a challenge for her, I'd feel bad.
And thanks for confirming that it bothers you to lose to a girl.
thanks for tearing me to shreds, Jer
October 18, 2009 - 17:51 ET by Candance MooreYour answer to my question has been very helpful.
ROFLMAO !
October 18, 2009 - 17:53 ET by Free StinkerROFLMAO !
Oh, shut up.
October 18, 2009 - 17:57 ET by JerOh, shut up.
Jer
Temper temper. Don't let
October 18, 2009 - 18:00 ET by Free StinkerTemper temper.
Don't let losing to a girl make you all upset. This is the 21st century. You should be glad for a woman to win! What kind of a Liberal are you?
Bleeding heart...and a few
October 18, 2009 - 18:12 ET by JerBleeding heart...and a few other places.
Jer
Welcome to
October 18, 2009 - 18:13 ET by Free StinkerWelcome to Newsbusters.
Consider yourself initiated.
→ Jer
October 18, 2009 - 18:13 ET by Cool ArrowYou should have gotten some antibiotics before those sores showed up.
Give me immortality, or give me death - firesign
Jer
October 18, 2009 - 22:12 ET by MrShySeriously, answer candance's question.
I think it is impossible
October 18, 2009 - 22:22 ET by Scuba DudeI think it is impossible for him to give a simple answer. The lawyer in him prevents it from happening. Twist, spin and avoid.
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
scoobs!!! :)
October 18, 2009 - 22:35 ET by MrShyHe's a real nitwit, and clearly doesn't have a lot going on at home and just wants to push everyone's buttons here. What's going on is serious and grave, but he's in leftist la-la land.
Btw, just got your PM, and yeah, I'M DOWN !!!! (early '10, is it?)
Cool Shy. It was in March
October 18, 2009 - 22:39 ET by Scuba DudeCool Shy. It was in March the last time. I figure it might be the same in 2010. Hopefully we can get a crew. I'll do the driving. : )
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
Candance
October 18, 2009 - 17:56 ET by JerTake a look up and down this thread, dear...It's all I can do just to stanch the bleeding from my own wounds.
Jer
→ Take it for the team, Jer
October 18, 2009 - 18:00 ET by Cool ArrowWe've got Mike Nifong on the phone. Saying something about Ben Franklin and defending himself.
Give me immortality, or give me death - firesign
I'd really love to know, Jer
October 18, 2009 - 18:33 ET by Candance MooreHis cabinet contains such moderates as:
-self-proclaimed "progressive" Hillary Clinton who pushed for government healthcare since the 90s.
-world's smartest man Tim Geithner who was the architect of the bailouts, the GM takeover, and the stimulus.
-Clinton lackey Eric Holder.
-Democrat lackey Gary Locke.
-abortionist supporter and longtime Democrat Kathleen Sebelius.
-gay rights activist Arne Duncan.
-ultra partisan lackey Rahm Emmanuel.
-longtime Democrat and Clinton staffer Susan Rice.
-Berkeley alumnus and avowed Keynesian economist Christina Romer.
-longtime Democrat and Corzine staffer Lisa Jackson.
-Berkeley professor and global warming activist Steven Chu.
-career Democrat Ken Salazar, hailed as one of Obama's "moderates" even though he's a global warming believer and has publicly tangled with evangicals.
-career Democrat and union lackey Hilda Solis.
-Obama campaign staffer Shaun Donovan.
That's just his official cabinet. We haven't even gotten to Valerie Jarrett, David Axelrod, Anita Dunn, or any of the czars.
As for his Republican "team of rivals" he has Bush holdover Robert Gates (who serves in intelligence) and RINO Ray LaHood who consistently gets bad marks from conservative watchdogs.
So again I ask, who in Obama's inner circle wants anything other than socialism?
Candance...
October 18, 2009 - 18:47 ET by JerMy computer guru 'Mr. fix it' just arrived. I'll be back later. In the meantime, think about definitional parameters. "Lackeys"? C'mon. I guess then you'll stipulate Rove was a "hyper-partisan Bush lackey". And yes I guess you could say Republican Robert Gates "serves in intelligence", but he is better known as the Secretary of Defense.
Jer
why is that so bad?
October 18, 2009 - 18:55 ET by Candance MooreI'd gladly refer to people like Eric Cantor or Michael Steele as a Republican lackey. And yes, it would be fair to say Karl Rove served as a partisan for Bush.
That's the third time you avoided my question. I hold out hope that I'll hear back tomorrow.
Well, maybe you'll just
October 18, 2009 - 21:06 ET by JerWell, maybe you'll just have to wait until I'm ready then, Candance. Count up the responses I've made on this thread alone and tell me again how I'm such an avoider. The repairman was standing over my shoulder as I was feverishly finishing up and posting that previous response to you just before logging off.
By the way, Cantor and Steele aren't even part of Bush's administration. You just can't bring yourself to call Rove a lackey can you? Only those who work for Obama.
I'm having a later dinner. See ya.
Jer
a response is not the same as an answer
October 18, 2009 - 21:16 ET by Candance MooreRove was Bush's lackey. Happy now?
STILL WAITING for you to show me Obama's advisors who say capitalists are their heros.
Sorry, Candance...
October 18, 2009 - 21:34 ET by JerA response is not the same as an answer.
I haven't finished my chicken pot pie. In the meantime, allow me to respond with this.
Jer
Now, I'll finish my chicken while you're eating crow.
And anytime I see your
October 18, 2009 - 21:40 ET by Scuba DudeAnd anytime I see your "answer" Jer, I see this. Just keep muddying those waters.
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
still no names
October 18, 2009 - 21:49 ET by Candance MooreWe're done.
Just a minute, Candance...
October 18, 2009 - 22:23 ET by JerJust a minute, Candance...
I'm surprised this needs to be explained to you, but apparently it does. ThisnThat make the claims concerning avowed communists and avowed socialists in Obama's administration, i.e. those who have openly declared themselves to adhere to such ideologies.
The only individual whom I could think of offhand who might fit into such category was the departed Van Jones. Consequently, I asked TnT to give me the names of the current admininstration figures who had declared themselves to be communists or socialists. It was his claim, not mine, and his responsibility to back it up. Instead you asked me to back up a claim I hadn't even made, and, unlike TnT, I'm not going to do so without more thoroughly familiarizing myself with the philosophies of those I'm asked to comment on.
And frankly, I don't appreciate, after my wife had urged me to get off the computer so that the repairman (who was standing next to me and waiting for me to finish) could do his job, your slamming me about avoiding you a third time, when the very reason I had delayed the guy was to post at least a partial reply and explanation to you.
Jer
ScoreCard
October 18, 2009 - 22:30 ET by Free Stinkergirl: 15
jer: -7
UPDATE: (sing this part) Jer's ♪♫ losing to ♪ a ♫girl!
Heck, I'm more than
October 18, 2009 - 22:33 ET by JerHeck, I'm more than flattered by the 7 points. [You can't take them off the board once they're posted.] ;-)
Jer
You never paid attention in math class, did you?
October 18, 2009 - 22:37 ET by Free StinkerYou never paid attention in math class, did you?
Hint: Integers don't have to be positive.
Those of you who noticed the "-" sign can proceed with the hysterical laughter now.
Sorry, Free, I overlooked
October 18, 2009 - 22:51 ET by JerSorry, Free, I overlooked the minus sign. I guess I allowed my one victory to go to my head.
Jer
jer
October 18, 2009 - 22:38 ET by RESTLESS 1Umm, that's (-7).
"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest
I know, Restless. I am no
October 18, 2009 - 22:52 ET by JerI know, Restless. I am no longer flattered.
Jer
Yup, Jer
October 18, 2009 - 22:56 ET by RESTLESS 1More like flattened.
"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest
That, too. And after the
October 18, 2009 - 23:00 ET by JerThat, too. And after the second helping of chicken pot pie I just finished...more like fattened.
Jer
candance
October 18, 2009 - 22:41 ET by MrShyAnd STILL no answer to your question from Jer.
"Instead you asked me to back up a claim I hadn't even made."
Negative. She simply asked you if you can name any people in his administration/cabinet who are avowed (for lack of a better word) free market capitalists.
Shy... Isn't it about
October 18, 2009 - 22:58 ET by JerShy...
Isn't it about time you started darting from thread to thread alerting your pals of my latest transgression. So why don't you take a hike.
Jer
Jer
October 18, 2009 - 23:01 ET by MrShyAnd STILL no answer to candance's question.
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shawn228 really loves his porn
I never heard Rove
October 18, 2009 - 21:16 ET by general companyRidicule people, companies and organizations. Obama's folks do it daily
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Jer (again... sheesh)
October 18, 2009 - 22:15 ET by MrShy"Count up the responses I've made on this thread alone and tell me again how I'm such an avoider."
So far, I've counted up countless dozens of Jer's famous 5/10-word cute retorts to his good ole' NB chums. Those don't count as real responses to people (like myself and candance) who, yeah, take these questions kind of seriously.
Shy...sheesh is right.
October 18, 2009 - 22:30 ET by JerI take offense at being referred to, either explicitly or implicitly, as "the enemy within", and I assume you understand the historical context of the phrase or you wouldn't have used it. So when you grow up and would care to engage in civil, productive debate, I'm more than ready. Otherwise, I don't see any reason to give you any special consideration.
Jer
Jer you and Duh Vain One
October 19, 2009 - 02:13 ET by Dan The Man 2Jer you and Duh Vain One have the thinest skin around, grow up weenie.
Know how to keep a Troll in suspense? Ill tell ya in the morning.
Thanks for you opinion, Dan...
October 19, 2009 - 02:32 ET by JerThanks for your opinion, Dan...
I just don't understand why some people evidently feel the need to initiate personal attacks. Apparently you do. Maybe you'll explain it to me sometime.
Jer
I take offense at being
October 19, 2009 - 02:40 ET by Dan The Man 2I take offense at being referred to, either explicitly or implicitly, as "the enemy within"
You seem to get offended at just about everything Jer hence the thin skinned weenie tag. It wasnt personal just an observation, if I was personal I would get thrown off this blog.
Know how to keep a Troll in suspense? Ill tell ya in the morning.
I wasn't implying you were
October 19, 2009 - 03:03 ET by JerI wasn't implying you were being too personally insulting with the 'thin-skinned weenie' remark. Big deal. I don't mind trivial comments like that. But a lot of the attacks aren't nearly so mild. And it is the more strident ones I find unnecessary, but which you appear to be justifying. Maybe I misunderstood you.
Jer
By the way, the enemy within has historically referred to communist subversives. That's not a very nice accusation made by Shy about me.
Jer
October 19, 2009 - 03:13 ET by MrShy"That's not a very nice accusation made by Shy about me."
I know it's not.
I know it's snot, too.
Stop being an apologist for a gang of seriously dangerous communist/socialist radicals and maybe people around here will make "nicer" accusations of Tender Jer.
Shy...
October 19, 2009 - 05:52 ET by JerOther than defending Anita Dunn against charges she is a dangerous communist/socialist radical, whom could you possibly be talking about, and how does my doing so make me an enemy of America, or even your enemy?
Jer
Jer
October 19, 2009 - 17:49 ET by MrShyBecause.
I really am with Donald (Ronald?) on that other thread, and with many these days. All this talk about being "bipartisan"... "reaching across the aisle".... is crap. Today's left ideology is utterly illogical and leading down a bizarre path that in so many ways does nobody any good, and does more harm to the "less fortunate" and is totally full of itself... AND, in it's policies is completely counter to true individual freedoms.
So yeah, you are somehow embracing a lot of what the left espouses, and it's nothing personal but when it comes to politics you're dead wrong and you're part of the problem not the solution.
I take back any name calling (sorry -- heat of the moment) but not any of my accusations of you.
Shy...
October 21, 2009 - 01:11 ET by JerJust noticed this post. Thanks for your apology regarding name-calling. I'm sorry for my behavior too. But, just so I'll know where things stand [aside from being expunged from JWF's buddy list, for which I'm not exactly prostrate with grief], exactly what am I currently being accused of?
Jer
The parrot on Jer's shoulder does it again.
October 18, 2009 - 18:59 ET by JWFRove! Rove! Squawk. Rove is evil!
Why is it I did not know who Rove actually was or even what he looked like until he quit and signed with Fox News. But lord in heaven, he was on the lips of every liberal for 7 years. They knew all about the evil one.
And I had to look up Lee Atwater too. I will bet you all of the old liberals knew all about him as well. They knew about the spawn of Satan.
JWF You're a master of
October 18, 2009 - 21:14 ET by JerJWF
You're a master of the NB search engine. So here's a little p;roject for you. Find a post where I have either directly called Rove evil or even suggested he was evil. Otherwise, you are leaving yourself wide open to charges of dishonesty--the trait you have been so preoccupied with recently.
Jer
Does lackey count?
October 18, 2009 - 21:17 ET by general companyMy Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
JWF never stated that YOU
October 18, 2009 - 21:58 ET by Scuba DudeJWF never stated that YOU said Karl Rove was evil. He attributed it to the parrot on your shoulder.
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
I realize that.
October 18, 2009 - 22:01 ET by JerI realize that. So?
Jer
So why try and send him on
October 18, 2009 - 22:06 ET by Scuba DudeSo why try and send him on a mission to prove something he never said? Oh wait, you're playing the part of the SRM and JWF is playing the part of Rush. I get it now.
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
Three bags full !
October 18, 2009 - 22:13 ET by Free StinkerThree bags full !
The parrot on Jer's shoulder got it.
October 19, 2009 - 07:41 ET by JWFThe point of the post was this - Rove was on your lips. Rush is on your lips. Newt is on your lips. Ann is on your lips.
The favorite targets of the loony far left seem to be on your lips an awful lot lately.
Sorry this concept flew right over your tiny pin-like heard. Fortunately, you have a tall parrot to catch things.
Wait a minute. If
October 18, 2009 - 16:07 ET by JerWait a minute. If you are really Cool Arrow, you would have added "but it means they're racists".
Jer
→ Done deal, Jer
October 18, 2009 - 16:10 ET by Cool ArrowI already opined in another thread that Obama will talk to a brownskinned, murdering, Muslim thug, but he won't talk to lily-white Chris Wallace.
Proves Obama's racist ;-)
Whew! I waw afraid you were a body-snatcher victim...
October 18, 2009 - 16:24 ET by JerAnd Obama already has talked to lily-white Wallace. Remember? It was after the juvenile "x days and counting" thing they were running on FNS.
Jer
→ Juvenile?
October 18, 2009 - 16:30 ET by Cool ArrowBut you see nothing "juvenile" about the Administration pulling a "You can't be my friend if you talk to them" routine?
Jer, you've got me really cracking up now.
So you're sure Barack Obama was President when Wallace interviewed him?
Before he won the White House, Obama had a vested interest in hiding his racism. He's already taken the stereotypical black man's stance against the police since then.
Stop cracking up. I agree
October 18, 2009 - 16:43 ET by JerStop cracking up. I agree with you. I think it is a serious blunder for the administration to attempt to maginalize and blacklist Fox News. I agree with their sentiments because, with some notable individual exceptions, Fox is a highly irresponsible and flagrantly biased network, but the administration's "strategy" in dealing with it is sheer stupidity.
Jer
Flagrantly biased network?
October 18, 2009 - 16:53 ET by ThisnThat... as opposed to what, MSNBC? The NYT? CNN? The Boston Globe? NBC? CBS? NPR? ABC?
Tell me which networks or other news outlets consistently report everything, vs. leaving it out totally? van Jones? Fox reported it; van Jones resigned; no other network picked it up; and even the NYT said "Gee, maybe we better do better".
Flagrant? Kinda like your opinions -- flagrantly false and biased? Come-on -- you can do better than that!
__________
"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song
TnT...It's why I wish the
October 18, 2009 - 17:01 ET by JerTnT...It's why I wish the MSM would shift rightward, i.e. more toward the center--maybe give Brit Hume the anchor spot of CBS News for a start. Then perhaps Fox's agenda wouldn't be governed by its perception of being the 'lone conservative voice' in the media.
Jer
→ Hume
October 18, 2009 - 17:06 ET by Cool ArrowToo logical.
Much too principled for the SubPrime Media's taste.
I don't care if the MSM stays left.
October 20, 2009 - 22:22 ET by TailgunnerJust have a little more integrity in their reporting.
I believe in the First Amendment...even for Ed Schulz.
As long as enough lunatics tune in for MSNBC to make a buck, I say go for it.
They can spin the news all they want...after they report it.
Just don't ignore news that makes the left look bad while pretending to be objective.
As soon as Olbermann, Schulz and Matthews have some legitimate opposition on their shows who they don't assault, shout over and utterly humiliate, I'll cut them some slack.
Problem is, though, the MSM has never had any desire or intention to be anything but '***-dumpsters' for Obama and the rest of the left.
As GUN CONTROL has nothing to do with GUNS, so HEALTH CONTROL has nothing to do with HEALTH.
Tyranny is rarely felt save by those who OPPOSE it. (unknown)
→ By association
October 18, 2009 - 16:57 ET by Cool ArrowBy association, we can easily conclude Brian Williams favors the killing of American Troops in Iraq. Jeffrey Immelt, after all, continued to provide aid to Iran long after trade sanctions were invoked. And Brian Williams works for Immelt without ever having mentioned the connection between GE and Iran on the air.
OK, having said that, I see your point. The Obama administration is particularly fond of NBC. I think I just stumbled upon one of the reasons.
'Biased'? Maybe.
October 18, 2009 - 22:54 ET by TailgunnerBut the record shows that Fox presents more balance and perspective than any other network...especially those MoveOn.org stenographers at CNN and MSNBC.
Anything touted as a news and analysis show by definition is going to have a bias. What gives such shows credibility is the range of views presented by the host and invited guests.
Fox has by far been more inclusive than any other network...and I only have to follow Newsbusters to prove the utter journalistic disasters of most every other media outlet.
You'll never see conservatives invited to debate Olbermann or Schulz...while conservatives on Matthews' show are routinely abused and attacked.
As GUN CONTROL has nothing to do with GUNS, so HEALTH CONTROL has nothing to do with HEALTH.
Tyranny is rarely felt save by those who OPPOSE it. (unknown)
Jer
October 18, 2009 - 16:28 ET by well99Actually Obama is a racist so CA would be correct.His choice of Czars shows a pattern.His pick of the far left (not libs) shows where he is coming from.They were his choice.Baseball note:Wait till next year.
Disagree...his
October 18, 2009 - 16:52 ET by JerDisagree...his Cabinet is comprised largely of centrists and lib/moderates, and, politically, one of the most bi-partisan in history. Certainly much more so than any Republican administration in memory.
[If you check out the more prominent lib/progressive sites, Obama is being criticized for trying to be too centrist and accommodating.]
Baseball follow-up. Wha-happened?!
Jer
A Whopper!
October 18, 2009 - 16:56 ET by ThisnThatWow! For a person whose "friends are mainly Republicans", this is a whopper statement. You either don't have Republican friends, or you don't have any ability whatsoever to take in data and process it.
__________
"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song
Jer speaking from someone
October 18, 2009 - 17:05 ET by shawn228Jer speaking from someone that takes the side of the democrats on more than one occasion, I do not see anything bi partisan about this administration. They force a stimulus package down our throats, adding on double the cost of both wars to our national debt and there is nothing partisan about the health plan,
"I think we're kindred spirits."~Mr Shy to Sergeant ROCK
"Whats wrong with a little sodomy between friends?"~Sergeant ROCK to Mr Shy.
Jer
October 18, 2009 - 17:11 ET by well99I am talking Czars not that I agree with you on his cabinet haveing a large portion of centralist.I might go as far as liberals...but very few moderates.His Czars are far left on a whole.
On Baseball I have no idea what happened.Both teams I thought would go further.Was I wrong.I even thought the Cards would get to the WS.
Disagree-Obamas' Cabinet
October 18, 2009 - 18:50 ET by matthewdeanI have been perusing NB for a few months now, and I have seen "Jer" get thumped on a regular basis.
While his political leanings appear to me to be Liberal (ish/ist?), he has made some astute comments, and hangs in quite well with all the give and take.
Now this is just my personal opinion, but if Jer truly believes that Obamas' Cabinet, politically, is one of the most bi-partisan in history, then "Thumpee" would be a more accurate call sign for him on this posting site.
Aforementioned stated with humor, not malice.
MD
Hang in there big guy.
October 18, 2009 - 19:09 ET by JWFUncle Jer will retire again in another month or so and then come back even loopier than ever. Kinda like, he takes his meds for a while, goes off his meds, disappears, goes into a program to get cleaned up, takes his meds for a short time, then starts hiding them when the nurse is not looking, gets out, and BAM! It is loopy time at NewsBusters!
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Whew, for a minute there I
October 18, 2009 - 20:08 ET by Dan The Man 2Whew, for a minute there I thought you were describing me.
Know how to keep a Troll in suspense? Ill tell ya in the morning.
matthewdean
October 19, 2009 - 07:45 ET by JerMatthew...
Thank you sir for the very kind words, as well as for your long career with the Fire Service, including service as an Arson Investigator. I would imagine it was a very interesting and rewarding experience.
When I speak of Obama's bipartisan appointments, my comparative focus is on senior level positions within his administration versus those of past Republican presidents, and, as such, would submit the comparison is very favorable to Obama. Including those previously mentioned, there is Republican Robert Gates at Defense; Republican Ray LaHood at Commerce; Republican Ben Bernanke reappointed as the FED chief (an independent agency, but, nevertheless a presidential appointment, Bernanke was originally selected by Bush); McCain supporter--and probable Republican--Marine General James Jones appointed head of the National Security Agency; Republican Judd Gregg of course was offered the job of Commeerce Secretary by Obama but eventually declined. Furthermore, the selections of centrist Democrats Larry Summers as chief economic advisor and Tim Geithner at Treasury were generally well received by Republicans and Wall Street [including NB's resident economic authority and very conservative Noel Sheppard]--at least until the revelations of Geithner's personal tax issues.
These are hardly Marxist radicals. I have lived through a number of Republican administrations: two terms of Eisenhower, one and a half terms of Nixon, followed by Ford, two terms of Reagan, one term of George H. W. Bush, and two terms of George W. Bush. If any of those administrations contained a similar number of bi-partisan appointments at the senior level, then someone needs to make the case for it. The immediate past presidency of George Bush illustrates my point graphically. Because of his disputed victory in 2000 and the fact he received less votes than Gore, there were calls that he fill the top Cabinet positions with a roughly equal number of Democrats and Republicans. Eventually, the Republican argument that "we may have gotten less votes, but we won 100 per cent of the presidency" carried the day, and Bush selected one minor Democrat, Norman Mineta, to his Cabinet.
Are the members of Obama's administration predominantly Democrats, including some very liberal Democrats? Of course. Obama is, after all, a liberal Democrat. But the notion his administration is entirely comprised of far-left radicals--Marxist revolutionaries even--is sheer nonsense.
Jer
Of course Jer would fail to see the nose on the end of his face.
October 19, 2009 - 08:23 ET by JWFHe believes the U. S. government is responsible for his retirement, health care, water, sewage, electricity, trash pickup, income should he lose his job, the economy, taking care of him in a disaster, fire protection, police protection, educating his children, ensuring he does no harm to himself, making sure no one says anything hateful about him, clothing him, & feeding him.
And when there is a snafu with any of the bureaucracies providing for him, he can pick up the phone and call his local democrat to fix it. And when the democrat fixes it, Jer will pay him back with his vote.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Yep, JWF... That's me,
October 19, 2009 - 08:40 ET by JerYep, JWF...
That's me, all right. You really nailed it...not!
Jer
Obamas' bi-partisan Cabinet
October 19, 2009 - 16:03 ET by matthewdeanJer:
Websters New Collegiate Dictionary defines bi-partisan thusly: adj : of, relating to, or involving members of two parties.
Therefore, I must concede the majority of the points you made in paragraph two of your reply referencing the Cabinet.
I made the mistake of using the definition I carry in my head of bi-partisan, which is "taking into consideration the other party's concerns and including them in the decision-making process"; much like the Chinese phrase "Gung-ho", which means "work together".
The obvious example of how wrong "my" definition is, is Congress. They are indeed bi-partisan. They sure as hell do not work together.
I wish the accent could be on "bi" rather than on "partisan", but that would probably defeat the two party, or adversial, system now in place.
I appreciate, and thank you for your first paragraph.
My tag line is my reply to your last sentence.
Right-O, mate.
MD
"I may not agree with what your bumper sticker says, but I will defend to the death your right to stick it." (Unknown)
-
October 19, 2009 - 08:36 ET by Jerdouble post
Want to know how Obama's 'Cabinet' got its name?
October 20, 2009 - 11:37 ET by TailgunnerA 'cabinet' is where you put bright and shiny silverware, plates and glasses that you rarely use except for show...
...while the real knives, forks, choppers, blenders, Cuisinarts, tenderizers, graters and cleavers you really use are hidden out of sight.
That's how the Obama Administration rolls.
As GUN CONTROL has nothing to do with GUNS, so HEALTH CONTROL has nothing to do with HEALTH.
Tyranny is rarely felt save by those who OPPOSE it. (unknown)
"his Cabinet is comprised
October 18, 2009 - 22:56 ET by MrShy"his Cabinet is comprised largely of centrists and lib/moderates..."
Names, please.
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shawn228 really likes porn
Love the new tagline Shy
October 18, 2009 - 23:36 ET by shawn228Unlike my quotes for you, I do not believe I ever phrased it exactly like that, but its close enough, I will wear it with a badge of honor. Hopefully JWF and the Sarge will let you play with them this week, suck up enough and it might just happen :-)
"I think we're kindred spirits."~Mr Shy to Sergeant ROCK
"Whats wrong with a little sodomy between friends?"~Sergeant ROCK to Mr Shy.
Whatever pronboy.
October 19, 2009 - 07:44 ET by JWFTalk to the hand.
Ouch
October 19, 2009 - 08:29 ET by shawn228Zinged by teh Vet, Teh Shawn iz hurt.
"I think we're kindred spirits."~Mr Shy to Sergeant ROCK
"Whats wrong with a little sodomy between friends?"~Sergeant ROCK to Mr Shy.
Jer
October 18, 2009 - 16:18 ET by ThisnThatHere is van Jones. No longer in the Obama admin, of course, because he had to resign over this quote: "I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th," he said. "By August, I was a communist." These are his own words, not made up. In fact, he also said this of the people he met in jail: "I met all these young radical people of color -- I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.' I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary."
And, of course, you have conveniently overlooked the current NB piece about Mao and Dunn. How you missed this, I don't know.
__________
"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song
→ Makes you wonder TNT
October 18, 2009 - 16:25 ET by Cool ArrowI thought the first rule of doing lawyer stuff is "Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to"
Seems Jer knows the answers, knows they don't support his case, but asks the questions anyway.
Might that be why he has so much time to devote to NB?
I'm just sayin ;-)
Cool, I think Jer sometimes
October 18, 2009 - 16:29 ET by ThisnThatCool, I think Jer sometimes forgets he's not dealing with his leftist friends, where "facts" change on a whim and become whatever you want them to be during a conversation.
__________
"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song
What leftist friends?
October 18, 2009 - 16:35 ET by JerWhat leftist friends? Most of my friends are conservative Republicans.
Jer
→ Jer's friends
October 18, 2009 - 16:41 ET by Cool ArrowJer, has it occurred to you that if you'd take a realistic outlook on life, the Partners might let you advance beyond Pro Bono "urinating in public" cases?
I specialize in unbillable
October 18, 2009 - 16:55 ET by JerI specialize in unbillable hours, Cool. [For the record, my active practice days are behind me.]
Jer
→ Good to hear
October 18, 2009 - 17:03 ET by Cool ArrowSo, you screwed a bunch of quadraplegics out of their awards and retired, huh?
Don't worry, I doubt they'll ever catch up to you. I wouldn't stand for it, if I were them.
Well, the way things are
October 18, 2009 - 17:22 ET by JerWell, the way things are going, the shingle may be going back up.
Jer
→ Good luck, Jer
October 18, 2009 - 17:28 ET by Cool ArrowI hear Sharpton is hiring. Of course he has a record of not paying up.
Pro Bono, it is.
Do you think he would share
October 18, 2009 - 17:32 ET by JerDo you think he would share the massive damage award from his forthcoming libel suit against Rush?
Jer
→ No way, Jer
October 18, 2009 - 17:39 ET by Cool ArrowBut you wouldn't want to be the lawyer who believed he could make a bundle on this contingency case.
Even the offices of Bob Loblaw wouldn't touch this one without a substantial retainer.
Cool...
October 18, 2009 - 17:49 ET by JerLook, I'm the guy who said Rush doesn't have a snowflake's chance in hell of winning his potential defamation suits. I view Al's chances of winning as slim to none, and slim just left town.
Jer
→ I caught that, Jer
October 18, 2009 - 17:55 ET by Cool ArrowI'm trying to find you some paying customers. Not that snakeoil selling sharlatan, Charpton.
We've got to get you back into the ranks of the taxpaying American public before your soul is lost forever.
Give me immortality, or give me death - firesign
Thanks, Cool...
October 18, 2009 - 18:00 ET by JerI'm still paying taxes, it's just that I wish I were paying more, if you know what I mean.
Jer
Jer, if you're looking to
October 18, 2009 - 18:16 ET by ThisnThatJer, if you're looking to pay more taxes, PM me and I'll send you my tax bill. LOL>
__________
"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song
I miss
October 19, 2009 - 14:53 ET by jacktheripperArrested Developemnet... the name "Bob Loblaw" (BLAHBLAHBLAH) is pure genious for a
Lawyer!!!
"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can
bribe the people with their own money." – Alexis de Tocqueville
Sharpton couldn't handle the discovery process.
October 18, 2009 - 22:34 ET by TailgunnerAll Rush has to do is tell the truth.
Al has much he would rather keep hidden...and I understand that 'discovery' is pretty wide in scope.
With 20 million viewers a week or more, Rush could poison any jury pool in the Northern Hemisphere in a month.
Al doesn't have the stones to take on Mark Levin or any other attorney chosen by Rush.
As GUN CONTROL has nothing to do with GUNS, so HEALTH CONTROL has nothing to do with HEALTH.
Tyranny is rarely felt save by those who OPPOSE it. (unknown)
I'm not a Republican.
October 18, 2009 - 22:23 ET by Tailgunner(oops)
As GUN CONTROL has nothing to do with GUNS, so HEALTH CONTROL has nothing to do with HEALTH.
Tyranny is rarely felt save by those who OPPOSE it. (unknown)
TnT
October 18, 2009 - 16:29 ET by JerI didn't overlook the Dunn/Mao piece. I've already commented on it and been hammered repeatedly for same. It's just that I can't find where she said Mao was her "hero".
Jer
→ Right
October 18, 2009 - 16:36 ET by Cool ArrowOK, there's a slight difference between "favorite philosopher" and "hero". Not much, but some.
Would you be equally ambivalent if she said Hitler was her favorite philosopher?
A "yes" answer is required, BTW.
Well, then, by all means,
October 18, 2009 - 17:24 ET by JerWell, then, by all means, "yes".
Jer
→ No comment
October 18, 2009 - 17:29 ET by Cool ArrowNo comment, I just wanted to lock that one in before you thought better of it.
Check here, Jer. Pay
October 18, 2009 - 16:44 ET by ThisnThatCheck here, Jer. Pay special attention to this quote: "the two people I turn to most for answers to important questions."
BTW, one of the definitions of "hero": a person who, in the opinion of others, has heroic qualities or has performed a heroic act and is regarded as a model or ideal.
__________
"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song
But "Favorite philosopher"
October 18, 2009 - 16:41 ET by general companyDoesnt bother you? That would lead one to think she agrees with said philosophy. One could assume she idolizes him, but I guess you disagree.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
obama - partial list of the corrupt people in place
October 18, 2009 - 16:25 ET by david999Very very scary.
This is just a partial list of the corrupt people that obama knows and
has put in place in gov't.
The networks news are lying to to America everyday.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/ship_of_fools_obamas_intimates.html
Gee, excuse me while I
October 18, 2009 - 16:33 ET by JerGee, excuse me while I check in with dKos to refute your thoroughly unbiased, objective source.
Jer
Little hard to find Jer
October 18, 2009 - 16:50 ET by general companySeeing on how the srm are running cover for them. BTW there are many references listed in the artical,,,,,,,,,
Also, maybe you could be bothered to refute a few of the claims.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
More Jer trollin' dishonest utter utter dishonesty.
October 18, 2009 - 17:04 ET by JWFDid I mention dishonesty?
Would you please list the current advisors in the Obama adminisration who are "avowed communists", "avowed socialists", or have declared Mao to be their "hero".
Well now, aren't we special. First we call out someone to back up what they said, essentially calling them a liar. Then when someone does provide a thoroughly documented article of all the nastiness that is the Obama White House Staff. What do we get at that point? More open dishonesty in calling the article biased and unobjective.
Hey, Mr. Obtuse, I looked at the article. It has a list of references longer than the write-up itself but not as long as the list of your failures.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
From the article, Mr. Dishonest Jer the Dishonest Dishonesty
October 18, 2009 - 17:19 ET by JWFWould you please list the current advisors in the Obama adminisration who are "avowed communists", "avowed socialists", or have declared Mao to be their "hero".
Oh dear, the only people that admit to having Mao as their hero would be Dunn and you, Uncle Jer. Ok. Ok. Ok. You never actually said that. But you did say plenty of other hateful stuff, Right? I said, right, Rush hater?
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
JWF...Why not save a lot of
October 18, 2009 - 17:27 ET by JerJWF...Why not save a lot of time and trouble and just go ahead and open your "Jer the Lying Troll" forum.
Jer
Da*n It Jer
October 18, 2009 - 17:41 ET by shawn228Why did you do that? You know as well as I do the Jer thread will not be only a paragraph long. It will be of Biblical proportions explaining who teh Vet was right and 8 post in a row back to back to back to back to back about how the liberal partyy eats deh poo and a sore tushie and youtube links of strange leprechans.
You just unleashed Hell.
edited for spelling
edit
Don't you hate people that keep editing their post and it affects everybody like shawn and iveseenitall?
"I think we're kindred spirits."~Mr Shy to Sergeant ROCK
"Whats wrong with a little sodomy between friends?"~Sergeant ROCK to Mr Shy.
Was... Wait a.... Was... Hey! Was that a dig?
October 18, 2009 - 17:59 ET by JWFFill your hand!
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars wounded by friendly fire from his own ranks.
Lol, JWF, I hope you don't
October 18, 2009 - 18:18 ET by shawn228Lol, JWF, I hope you don't take this as back handed compliment, you are a trolls worst nightmare, the back to back post, the wiki pages, 8 post in a row calling someone Binky. Donald has nothing on you buddy :-)
"I think we're kindred spirits."~Mr Shy to Sergeant ROCK
"Whats wrong with a little sodomy between friends?"~Sergeant ROCK to Mr Shy.
Shawn...
October 18, 2009 - 18:07 ET by JerNow that was funny.
[I hope you don't mind, JWF, but I couldn't help it.]
Jer
Or I could put another IOU in the pile.
October 18, 2009 - 17:36 ET by JWF"I owe Uncle Jer yet another apology, due before Saturday at 1:06 PM."
Apologise. Apologise. Apologise now! Braaaack.
Please note on the other
October 18, 2009 - 18:03 ET by JerPlease note on the other thread--if you haven't already--I've withdrawn said demand.
Jer
As if this list has not
October 18, 2009 - 22:19 ET by Scuba DudeAs if this list has not been published before. Read it.
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
Scuba...
October 18, 2009 - 23:07 ET by JerI think it was the "locust horde of Leftist bureaucrats" description in the very first paragraph which was the first clue the list might not be entirely objective. Then the unrelenting smears in the third paragraph clinched it.
Jer
Are they smears if they are
October 18, 2009 - 23:14 ET by Scuba DudeAre they smears if they are true? In the thumbnails what do you think is a smear? Is the writer stating anything that is false?
And some of the folks here at NB might think the people that Obama has surrounded himself with and the politicians in Washington are worse than locusts. Locusts damage crops, what they are doing in Washington can damage the country.
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
Scuba.... You know very
October 18, 2009 - 23:21 ET by JerScuba....
You know very well that if I attempted to corroborate a claim with information that was characterized in such a flagrantly partisan manner, but from a leftist perspective on a leftist website, I would be run out of here on a rail.
Jer
Then I expect you to
October 18, 2009 - 23:28 ET by Scuba DudeThen I expect you to retract your comment that these are "smears". If none of the thumbnails contain false or inaccurate statements then they should not be labeled "smears". Do not make such a statement and not show support for it. Did you do that in court?
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
If it were said, as it
October 20, 2009 - 19:51 ET by JerIf it were said, as it often is claimed here, that Obama is a coke-abusing terrorist sympathizer, would that be true? Would it be a smear? Can someone be smeared with the truth?
If it were said, Rush Limbaugh is a drug-abusing liar, would that be a smear? Would it be the truth? Would it have elements of truth? He has definitely abused drugs and he definitely has said things which were untrue. But, a good case can be made that both instances constitute smearing.
Jer
You stated that they were
October 20, 2009 - 21:44 ET by Scuba DudeYou stated that they were smears and you will not back up what you said. You cannot or will not tell me what falsehoods exist in the thumbnails. You are no better than Sanchez or Wilbon or any other leftist that makes accusations and provides no corroboration.
Do you have a problem admitting when you are wrong? Your actions just further prove that you cannot trust anything a liberal will say. I have given you the benefit of the doubt in the past but with your refusal to answer simple questions that Candance asked and dancing around answering my questions now puts you in the troll category to me.
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
The simple question
October 21, 2009 - 02:03 ET by JerThe simple question Candance asked was show me anyone in his administration who is avowed to the free market system America has enjoyed for 200 years, or who says John Adams is their hero. I think that's pretty close. And you say that's a simple question?
First of all, I'm not sure what "avowed to the free market system" actually means. Its extremely awkward wording. Second, we haven't had a pure free market system in nearly eighty years at least, and arguably never. Frankly, in both Republican and Democratic administrations, it's really a question of how much or how little regulation of businesses and markets is desirable or more effective. So the question, as framed, suggests a false assumption and defies "easy" answer.
And with apologies to Candance, who is a very intelligent young lady, the second question is just plain silly. I doubt the vast majority of the current administration--or of past administrations for that matter--have publicly annnoumced any list of personal heroes. I guess I could send a questionaire to each and every member and pose the question. But the task would hardly be "simple".
Now, as far as the American Thinker list, I have actually waded into the thicket of thumbnail sketches, and discovered the entire process to be a more pointless and unproductive exercise than I had even first imagined. I'm sorry, Scuba, but it is simply a painfully partisan screed, completely devoid of even a sliver of objectivity. I went through the "sources" supporting the Valerie Jarrett allegations, and they were an impenetrable glob of naked speculation, gossip, conclusory smears, guilt by birth or association or relationships, reckless accusations, circular sourcing, etc., all teetering atop one or two embarrassingly slim facts.
At least with respect to Van Jones there was a "smoking gun" of sorts. He's gone. Ayers, to the best of my knowledge, has no role within the current administration. Why is he even listed? If you want to insist that all these people are avowed communists and socialists, that is your prerogative I suppose. But, this American Thinker article does precious little to convince me such is the case.
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I cant remember where, but
October 18, 2009 - 15:46 ET by general companyI saw an interview with one of the Mothers of a kid who was present at this speech. She said her and her child were very upset, that she used that reference. Obama has surrounded himself with these American haters, and now is trying to silence the only folks who have the courage to point it out.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
I don't disagree, this
October 18, 2009 - 15:49 ET by ConservativeRexI don't disagree, this administration is rotten to the core, and it has only been in less then a year. I am not sure what's in store for us during the balance of this administration. I am convinced daily that this is not so much a incompetent administration, but a dangerous one.
From what they have shown so far, they will not abide anything negative pointed out about it. For now, they are just using words through their friends in the media. I'm not sure when words will switch over to action. They will not be able to withstand the rightful attacks they have been coming under for long without a physical retaliation. Be prepared.
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
Pravda
October 18, 2009 - 16:22 ET by david999Members of Pravda do not report what they are told not to report on.
That's exactly
October 18, 2009 - 16:45 ET by rockyracoonThat's exactly right.
Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.
czars as advisors (?)
October 18, 2009 - 16:45 ET by sarge329I understand the president has installed several people in advisory capacities, and called them " czars " . The WH position is that this is nothing new, many former administrations have done this. Fine. However, I thought that the president already had advisors. They are known as " the Cabinet " .
They're watching Beck...
October 18, 2009 - 17:55 ET by MCLIJazz...through Media Matters, Think Progress, Daily Kos, Huffington Post, Crooks & Liars, Raw Story, NewsCorpse, OReillySucks, and Newshounds among others. Also, MSNBC (Valerie Jarrett commended Keith Olbermann in a post-joint session appearance on his show last month).
I highly doubt they watch FNC directly.
I'm shocked. The way she's been lying for national socialists...
October 18, 2009 - 19:01 ET by Tailgunner...I figured her role models would be Josef Goebbels and Leni Riefenstahl.
As GUN CONTROL has nothing to do with GUNS, so HEALTH CONTROL has nothing to do with HEALTH.
Tyranny is rarely felt save by those who OPPOSE it. (unknown)
It is because the Media is followig Rahm's Advice
October 18, 2009 - 19:25 ET by Chattychitothis morning on fox news we read, "The
bigger thing is that other news organizations, like yours(ABC), ought not to treat them that way, and we're not going to treat
them that way." Axelrod told ABC.
So not one of the MSM networks will cover the story because it came from Fox therefore it is not news worthy because, "The way we -- the president looks at it and we look at it, is, it is not a news organization so much as it has a perspective," White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel added on CNN's "State of the Union.""
CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC all have their negative perspectives generally limited to Rush, Beck, Hannity and O'Riely but they have only Positive perspectives concerning the Administration and it's words and actions. You will notice the Freudian slip where Rahm inserts we before the president stops corrects it then follows it with we again.
Who is really running our country? who is this we?
It is the Public relations team that are the "in White House cheerleaders" to help Obama keep a positive perspective of himself. You know generally if someone is to good to be true they are to good to be true.
The Administration is against Fox News Because Fox News is not as positive concerning Obama as the rest are. If Obama has something he did that deserves a positive perspective Fox will be the first to print it but the fact is Obama has done nothing positive.
The Personal Positive Perspective of ones Self Image is a Health wealth prosperity teaching that people like self-help expert James Arthur Ray teach. At all cost you must separate yourself from all Negative influences and surround yourself with Positives.That is why Obama took the first plane out of DC during the 9/12 march he couldn't handle what they consider "the negative perspective" of his leadership.So fly him up to a place where everyone sings his praises.
Well light bulbs and many things in this universe do not work without Negatives. Negatives are really needed for things to be functioning properly. Obama is a dysfunctional person because negatives are not allowed. Therefore if there are no negatives allowed he is not functioning normally as a person, nor are those who keep him in his positive bubble.
Fox News will not be manipulated to only paint positive pictures of Obama and his administration like ABC, CNN, MSNBC, CBS et al. To do so would not be balanced and fair but unbalanced and dysfunctional.
Here's a fact that's worth the knowing, So treasure and mark it well. When the mind is through with growing, the the head begins to swell. Sir Nosmo King
Hhmmm
October 18, 2009 - 19:38 ET by general companyAnd I just thought he was just a stuck-up elitist, socialist/w hench men?
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
See the Positiveity Guru's great example of it in the name
October 18, 2009 - 20:14 ET by ChattychitoRay chooses to be called by, James Arthur Ray. you see just to be called James Ray reminds people of the assassin James Earl Ray which is just to negative of an association. This is how positive perspective health and wealth prosperity movement teach you to handle negatives, gloss over them instead of handling them normally
Here's a fact that's worth the knowing, So treasure and mark it well. When the mind is through with growing, the the head begins to swell. Sir Nosmo King
"Establishment press".
October 18, 2009 - 23:16 ET by RR GOP"Establishment press". Wow, I wonder if that's what these hippie wannabes wanted to become. That's the most scathing term I think anyone's ever applied to them.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
if Beck is wrong
October 19, 2009 - 01:09 ET by ChattychitoWhy hasn't Dunn called him on the phone in front of his audience to correct him?
Here's a fact that's worth the knowing, So treasure and mark it well. When the mind is through with growing, the the head begins to swell. Sir Nosmo King
Mother Teresa
October 19, 2009 - 06:22 ET by raiseyawas not so universally deified in India. I offer http://www.rationali... which is an Indian debunk site. Search under Mother Teresa to see what they think of her.
This certainly does not denigrate Ms. Dungs position on Mao...it does add a certain 'frisson' to the whole speech though.
That site certainly shows
October 19, 2009 - 13:00 ET by HockeyKidThat site certainly shows what Sanal Edamaruku thinks of Mother Teresa, but it certainly doesn't demonstrate "what they think of her" in terms of the entire population of India. If you're going to run off-topic, please try to present a supported assertion.
"Frisson"? The idea that some people denigrate Mother Teresa adds a thrill to Dunn's speech for you? Whatever blows your skirt up, I guess.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
If
October 19, 2009 - 08:37 ET by jessieHIf not for Glenn Beck & Fox News, we wouldn't have even known about it. Thank you, Fox & Glenn.
Not a shadow of a doubt
October 20, 2009 - 08:27 ET by FormerMarineOfficerthat Anita would have been right in the thick of it during the "Great Cultural Revolution".
During Mao's reign of terror
October 20, 2009 - 09:02 ET by FormerMarineOfficeran estimated 70 million Chinese were killed. The collectivist, communist/bolshevik ethos places no value on human life whatsoever.
It's MY Ball! Mine! Mine! Mine!
October 20, 2009 - 13:07 ET by AbraxosIs it possible that the mainstream media is so childish that they refuse to cover anything that they, themselves, did not initiate among themselves?
Just like the Administration they're in bed with, they are a bunch of narcissistic, prideful, nose-in-the-air crybabies, strutting along in that same King's parade with no clothes on.
"And that's the way it is, Tuesday, October 20th... From Washington...good day."