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Care to Revise and Extend Your Remarks, Sen. Obama?

Editor's Note: Update below the fold.

The uproar of the media, serving as adjunct PR firms in defense of their beloved Sen. Barack Obama in response to Sen. John McCain's video comparing the Illinois Senator to Paris Hilton, was deafening. The ad was described as "nasty," "childish" and "juvenile," a "strange" "nuclear attack" for having dared to compare their anointed one to the brainless celebutant hotel heiress.

Sen. McCain and his camp responded that it was all in good fun, and was made only to point out the ridiculous Tiger Beat-squealing teenage girl nature of the over-the-top, all-encompassing coverage thus far afforded Obama by his Paparazzi.

But it appears that someone years ago beat Sen. McCain to the comparison punch.

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Would all of this overwrought press hysteria be rendered even sillier were it to turn out that Sen. McCain was in actuality quoting Sen. Obama? Methinks that it would.

A February 24, 2005, Washington Post article begins:

There's nothing exotic or complicated about how phenoms are made in Washington, and, more to the point, how they are broken.

"Andy Warhol said we all get our 15 minutes of fame," says Barack Obama. "I've already had an hour and a half. I mean, I'm so overexposed, I'm making Paris Hilton look like a recluse."

That is pretty much the who and the why of Sen. McCain's explanation of his ad, is it not? It turns out he wasn't mocking Sen. Obama so much as channeling him. Or making a mini-documentary out of the Post's article.

Either way, it is just another example of the elite media not liking a Leftist's own words being used against him in the court of public opinion.

Update: Time magazine had the quote as well. From their Verbatim section:

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H/t: Of the Capital Research Center, and a fellow NewsBuster, the estimable Matthew Vadum.

Update 2008-08-06 | Matthew Sheffield. Speaking of Paris Hilton, the B-list celeb responded to all this recently in a parody ad.

—Seton Motley is Director of Communications for the Media Research Center and Contributing Editor for NewsBusters.org.


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Obama was joking though

And McCain was being serious and racist.

So Obama can make fun of himself but nobody else can? 

Thomas Jefferson once said, 'We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.' And ever since he told me that, I stopped worrying. 

- Ronald Reagan

I don't think McCain was

I don't think McCain was being racist, but these two references are nowhere near to being the same thing.

They seem similar to me

I'm so overexposed, I'm making Paris Hilton look like a recluse

Obama was making fun of how overexposed he was , like a celebrity.  He stopped laughing when McCain's ad made the same comment. 

Thomas Jefferson once said, 'We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.' And ever since he told me that, I stopped worrying. 

- Ronald Reagan

boa.... Say

boa....

Say what?

Obama's own words aren't comparable or good enough for you?

Maybe I'm not understanding you...but I bet I am...

Leave it to you. 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Really? Obama casually

Really?

Obama casually mentions in a self-deprecating way that he's gotten as much exposure as Paris Hilton, jokingly.

This, somehow to you, translates to the same thing as McCain's ad that compares his popularity to that of Hilton as a way of saying that he's unfit for office?

Really?

"Really?" Really. McNotObama

"Really?"

Really.

McNotObama '08

Self-deprecating?

Self-deprecating?

Please. Just like John Lennon was being "self-deprecating" when he said the Beatles were more popular than Jesus.

He himself was admitting that he'd had more than his share of fame.

McCain may not have known about that, but his point was that, like Hilton, Obama had become "famous for being famous."

 

lol mb

GMTA...I brought up The Beatles just below.

Democrats are being obtuse on purpose and it's really getting on my nerves.

Yes he was saying he had

Yes he was saying he had more than his share of fame. But not to the detriment of his candidacy, which is what McCain's spot was about.

One is made in jest. The other not.

Really

In the way that McCain compares him to Paris/Britney, he is basically saying that he has all style and no substance.  Of course Obama wouldn't say the exact same thing, but this quote says that

Obama realizes himself that he is probably getting overexposed compared to his relative lack of experience. 

Thomas Jefferson once said, 'We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.' And ever since he told me that, I stopped worrying. 

- Ronald Reagan

really Bal

Now you just sound like you're parroting DNC talking points.

If Bobby Jindal ran around saying "I'm bigger than Paris Hilton" you wouldn't be saying "aw the poor thing is so self-deprcating." How on earth does bragging about your own fame translate into making fun of yourself? I guess John Lennon was sooo self-depricating when he said The Beatles were bigger than Jesus...yeah, that's what it was, he was dumping on himself.

And the point of McCain's ad was that Obama being a "rock star" seems to be the only thing anyone cares about. He's challenging people to look beyond the hype and ask themselves exactly why a politician is being treated like Paris Hilton.

 

You think Obama was

You think Obama was bragging? I think he was more making fun of himself and the nature of the way the media covered him.

And again, McCain was saying Obama isn't suited for the presidency. That's not what Obama was saying about himself.

Would you ever find a quote like that?

Barack would never say wasn't suited for the presidency.  He just stated he was overexposed jokingly.  

McCain said basically the same thing jokingly, and then added his own opinion that underneath the "celebrity" there is somebody not ready to be president. 

Thomas Jefferson once said, 'We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.' And ever since he told me that, I stopped worrying. 

- Ronald Reagan

and the problem is..?

so McCain isn't supposed to say anything about Obama's fitness? is McCain only supposed to say things that make Obama look good? Because whether you want to believe it or not, even Republicans are supposed to campaign *for* themselves and *against* their opposition.

I bet that's what the *real* controversy is, that McCain committed "blasphemy" by not kissing @rse. No criticism, whether light, heavy, true or false, can be made against a Liberal. Especially when it's impossible to refute, like most attacks against conservatives.

Besides I don't see nearly this sort of "controversy" about McCain being "old" and alluding to senility and therefore unfit.  That is "acceptable" but to do the exact same thing, bring up "young" and hint it means inexperience is verboten. 

How did the Dems treat Republican candidates who were famous thru their Hollywood careers before they got into politics? Plenty of disparaging ads about their "fame" and not being "real". It happened recently here in the CA governor's recall, and not too terribly long before when Reagan was in office.

(oops, we're not supposed to mention the past, are we? we're supposed to be "young" and not remember what the Dems actually have done, or we're supposed to be stoned to the gills and have only short term sound-bite memory. Legalize dope now, man!)

 

"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

"You spend your money anyway you want and respect other's rights to do the same"

exactly undercover

Dems worked overtime to paint Dan Quayle as too young and Ronald Reagan as an airhead from Hollywood. Arnold was portrayed for years as the dumb jock from Terminator while Jesse "The Body" Ventura was a thougtful, nuanced independent thinker.

Now Barack Obama blatantly compares himself to Paris Hilton while schmoozing with tabloids in Europe...and Dems get angry at John McCain for actually having the nerve to point it out.

My 2 cents


And again, McCain was saying Obama isn't suited for the presidency. That's not what Obama was saying about himself.

Actually (my take) the McCain ad pointed out that popularity alone isn't a good barometer for qualification for President.

D

Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.

let's make this simple

A politician has no business being treated like a rock star, and for him to run around saying "The media treats me like I'm Paris Hilton" and then wonder why people are bothered by that?

Obama has a really bad habit of saying inappropriate things and then calling it a joke. He does it almost on a daily basis. After a while it starts getting old.

I just love how Obama was obviously joking but big bad McCain is so not joking.

BTW are you saying McCain has no right to imply Obama's too naive to be president? Then maybe Obama shouldn't imply that McCain is a racist.

Of course McCain's not

Of course McCain's not joking when he says Obama isn't the right guy for the job. Why else would he do an ad with Obama in it?

I never said McCain had no right to do the ad.

Hey boa... You have zilch

Hey boa...

You have zilch for sense of humor or light-heartedness anymore...

It is finally dawning on me...your guy may end up losing...big time.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

First of all, he's not "my

First of all, he's not "my guy." And I fail to see McCain using images of Paris and Britney as a way of showing the downside to Obama as being funny. McCain's not trying to be funny; he's trying to poke holes in Obama's candidacy. I don't see anything wrong with that, but to equate that as being the same as Obama's comment is silly.

As for sense of humor, I'll have you know that I'm sitting at my computer with clown shoes on whilst watching reruns of "Your Show of Shows," a seltzer bottle at the ready.

Just clowning around

So you're admitting you're a Bozo? :)

Thomas Jefferson once said, 'We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.' And ever since he told me that, I stopped worrying. 

- Ronald Reagan

Pow! Zoom! Straight to the

Pow! Zoom! Straight to the moon, Alice!

:-)

Clarification

I think McCains next comercial ought to cut to the chase and clear everything up.

Picture a side by with Paris and Fauxbama.

McCain saying"  What does this empty headed celebrity and Paris have in common?"

Give up?

"I could write their qualifications for being President on the back of this Applebees reciept I just got for lunch"

"I'm John McCain and this ad is damn strait"

 

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference.
The MARINES don't have that problem."
President Ronald Reagan - 1985

See bt...

I told you Obama won't win. (pats self on back)

;-) 

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Hi Ct.... Right you

Hi Ct....

Right you are...

Now that he has done all he can do with his empty sweet nothing speeches and the adoring women faking passing out and needed smelling salts, a kick in the butt or/and being paid off by his campaign...

Proving he is also dumber than a box of rocks....

I never have heard him on the Senate floor come to think of it anyway....of course if I ever did, I would of aaaahhhh turned it most likely....

Never in a million years did I think this guy was so STUPID~

Talk about needing a puppet-master....he is out of fuel.

Arrogance, political backers, the msm, and the usual sheeple is all he really has left.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

candance...Since McCain has

candance...Since McCain has made light-hearted, self-deprecating remarks about his age, I suppose you will be the first in line to defend any DNC ad which alludes to McCain's age in a not so flattering manner.

Jer

That is a great thing for comparison Jer

McCain was not the first person to make statements about his age, he responded to peoples unfair characterizations with humor he didn't play the victim card.

Obama was the first one to compare himself to Paris Hilton and he thought he was cute and clever when he did it and then when the McCain commercial used it he played the victim card.

The two situations show that McCain is definitely the better sport.

 

I disagree, Dee.

The two situations show that McCain is definitely the better sport.

I disagree, Dee.  In my opinion, McCain's recent attack ads and snide remarks such as "Obama would rather lose a war than lose a campaign" demonstrate that McCain is a very poor sport and has no intention of running a "different kind of campaign".

Jer

"Obama would rather lose a war than lose a campaign"

"Obama would rather lose a war than lose a campaign"

Is snide a synonym of accurate ?

 

"They're both doofuses!" --Mark Levin (speaking of Obama and McCain)

Only among you and your

Only among you and your "ilk", Free.  :-)

Jer

Jer - Obama is the one who promised (but hasn't delivered)

to run a new kind of campaign. That is his deal much more than McCains and he has been just as nasty as anyone. He has his "pockets" ad claiming that McCain is in the pocket of big oil and falsely claims that McCain got $2 million from big Oil.

He has also accused McCain of playing the race card when he hasn't done anything of the sort. Obama is full of passive aggressive snide comments and is far from any new kind of politician.
Obama's new kind of campaign is where only Dems get to attack.

Dee...I don't think the Big

Dee...I don't think the Big Oil ad is running in my neck of the woods--at least I haven't seen it.  But if it contains false claims, it should be withdrawn.

When and how did Obama accuse McCain of playing the race card?

Jer

Jer

Obama played the race card when he denied McCain's claim that Obama's reference to Presidents on US currency was racist.

We know it was.

I'll concede to the contrary iff Obama really believes his is the face of ignorance, thus physically differentiating him from the other faces on the bills.

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE

Cool...

Obama played the race card when he denied McCain's claim that Obama's reference to Presidents on US currency was racist.

I'll need to diagram that sentence and get back to you later. :-)

Jer

No prob, Jer

Still trying to think my way through it. myself.

Obama shoots out there with "Did I mention he's black"

Later follows up by swapping Dollar bills for black in same litany.

McCain says Obama is playing the race card.

Obama says "no I'm not"

But though we know it was a cute exchange, Obama got his victim message across.

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE

yeah Jer

Surprisingly enough, I'm going to agree with you about the "he'd rather win an election" thing. That's the kind of thing you bring up in a face-to-face debate but not in a random press conference.

Well, let me disagree with

Well, let me disagree with both you and Jer then. If it is an accurate statement, it should be brought up often and anywhere. If it comes up in a debate, icing on the cake.

I have no problems with this statement or McCain's ad. He is trying to beat obama, not angle for a spot on his ticket. 

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

I see, Restless...so long

I see, Restless...so long as one holds an opinion which is believed to be true, then it's prime attack ad fodder. 

And if it is believed, for example, that McCain is afflicted with age-related dementia, then you would have no objections to the Democrats rolling out campaign ads bringing up the subject, "often and anywhere".  I mean, this ain't tiddley-winks--let's get the gloves off.  Is that the idea?

Jer 

Jer,

Are, you actually equating basically calling someone crazy and "demented" with observing that someone's ego has gotten the better of him? If you can provide proof that McCain is suffering from some kind of "age related dementia", then yes, I would consider that campaign fodder. The proof of obama's icon status is proven by the media every day. Hell, the media made sure of it. We may have our biases as well as libs, but we are not blind.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Restless...The subject

Restless...The subject addressed in my post and candance's response was McCain's statement about Obama prefering that America lose a war, etc.  It was not about Obama's "icon status".  Frankly, while I thought the Paris Hilton ad somewhat silly, I didn't find it offensive or out of bounds.  On the other hand, the "Obama doesn't care about the wounded troops" ad was, in my opinion, extraordinarily unfair.

I don't think John McCain is demented, but the argument that he may be is just as sustainable as the argument that Obama doesn't care about wounded troops.  I don't accept the validity of either argument.

Jer

But Jer

As I posted below.

Obama made a freewill choice to go to the gym over visiting wounded troops.

Do you honestly envision him making a similar decision such as, Speech at Victory Column -vs- working out?

Sorry, but ignoring the wounded troops was an observable event and not something Obama did, or did not, say.

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE

Um, and why didn't he visit

Um, and why didn't he visit them overseas again? He gets their hopes up and then cancels at the last second. He is despicable, and surprisingly, more power hungry and narcisstic than even Hillary. He lost any respect I may have had for him by doing that. McCain is right. The truth may hurt, but it must be told.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Well, Restless

What could he say to them?  Something like;

Sorry about your injuries fighting for something I don't support.

Better put some ice on that.

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE

Then again, maybe he would

Then again, maybe he would have repeated the same things he said when he visited the wounded troops in the Baghdad Green Zone and at Walter Reed.

Jer

What did he tell them Jer?

What did he tell them Jer? Something like "I didn't feel it"? He snubbed his nose at our troops. Simple as that. If it had been McCain, we would never hear the end of it, and you would not be nearly so apologetic about it.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

A followup to candance

You'll notice Obama never said he'd rather have a workout at the gym than visit wounded troops.

According to the definition of free will, he proved it.

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE

well yes cool

Don't get me wrong, I agree that McCain's remark was accurate, but it is a pretty sharp thing to say and IMHO it's best to say something like that face to face.

IMO,

It's not nearly sharp enough. Make no mistake, the leadership in dem party ARE OUR ENEMIES. They are enemies of freedom, enemies of state's rights, and enemies of America. That they have the loyalty of so many sheep quite frankly disturbs me deeply. Conservatives have let the horses out of the barn, and it is going to take a hell of a lot to get them back in there, if the libs don't burn it down first. Harsh words are just the tip of the iceberg of what's needed. I hope we get it together before it is too late.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

well restless

You don't need to convince me how dangerous Obama is to this country. In fact some of us were just talking about this very topic on the private forums.

But to randomly bring up something like that before you get back to praising Nancy Pelosi doesn't show much consistency from McCain or a sense that he really gets it - he's just saying what his advisors tell him will sound good.

Get those two in a live debate and let McCain hit him on not supporting the war. That strategy would be far more effective IMO.

PS Harsh words are great, but 23 years in Congress and nothing to show for it except campaign finance reform and a botched amnesty deal, it's time for real conservatives to launch some harsh words at all of our congress critters.

Candance,

I can't wait for some debates, although I would be lying if I said I wasn't worried about how McCain will perform. TV exposes all kinds of weaknesses, but I believe that his experiences will keep him on topic. He just seems a little boring, but if we get him away from a teleprompter, I think McCain comes across better. Just the opposite for obama. If he doesn't have pre-written answers, he will look like a fool.

I agree that McCain should hit obama hardest during the debates, but since the media will not do it's job, then I believe that McCain should strike whenever and wherever he can.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

I agree with you 100% Restless

McCain doesn't have the media and all these 527 to do his dirty work for him so he has to do it. Nothing he has said has been out of line.

Exactly Dee,

If the media were making these observations, as they surely would if roles were reversed, and asking tough questions about obama's experience, and pointing out the ridiculous statements obama has made, then the McCain campaign would not have to bring these things up. It's not McCain's job to point out what qualifies obama to be president, it is his job to point out why obama is NOT qualified to be president.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

debates

Let's hope McCain's camp does a good job of coaching him so he's fully prepared.

I expect the moderators to hurry through questions or use big words on purpose just to make McCain ask them to repeat it. I also expect them to exploit his admission to not being an economy expert.

His success in the debates will really come down to his performances as Obama's appearance is pretty easy to predict. If McCain stands through those debates with the same smirky, disinviting look he had in the primary debates he'll lose. If he manages to exude some compassion and humility he can get his points across.

restless

I have my reservations on voting for Obama as well, but IMO it is a huge exaggeration to call them our enemies.

8 years of Bill Clinton was not so bad. We had a budget surpluss, highest rate of homeowner ship without the foreclosures, our dollar was strong. Do I think he was solely responsible? No, but I'm just saying things were not so bad when we had a dem in the oval office.

Real life video games are cool

Shawn,

Compared to Reid, Pelosi, Obama, Dean, Kennedy, the list is too long to go on, Clinton was positively conservative. Hell, his only agenda was getting laid. He also had a conservative Congress to keep any wild ideas in check. Oh, and Ken Starr too. :)

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

yeah rest

I never thought I'd see the day when the rest of the DNC made the Clintons look moderate - and yet here we are.

To tell you the truth, if a Clinton was running right now instead of Obama, McCain would prolly lose a third of his supporters.

Right Restless - Clinton was a conservative Democrat

I don't think he even ever wanted Hillary's health plan and he just wanted to keep her busy. He never put any real support behind it. Clinton worked with the Republican Congress and let their long awaited Welfare reform and their balanced budget through without vetoes. He also supported NAFTA. Clinton was slimy and dishonest and I didn't like him but I'd rather have him any day than Obama and I think he'd be better than McCain on everything but National defense and Abortion. Obama is another Carter - he's no Clinton or Kennedy.

Clinton

And Clinton could have vetoed the legislation putting limits on chronic welfare recipients, but instead, he signed it.

I applauded his first 4 years.

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE

Cool,

I think Clinton was pretty steady, as far as the presidency goes. His character is lacking, but as far as running the country, I liken him to a quarterback who just goes out there and does his job, realizes his weaknesses, and doesn't make critical mistakes. Meanwhile, he had the dominant defense, (a republican congress) to make sure things didn't get out of hand. You would never go far in the playoffs with him, but you'd probably have a winning season.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

R1

Thank you acknowledging that. I have not seen many people give him any credit except for his DNA on a Arkan-sauce stained dress

I thought he was a great President. Yes he lacked on character, but I thought he did his job very well and unlike Bush, got along with a hostile congress

Real life video games are cool

Shawn,

Can you tell football season is close? :)

Clinton got some wins, but not taking out bin laden was a devastating first round playoff loss. One from which the franchise is still trying to recover from.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Restless

I am going to the first MNF. Oakland vs Denver. I heard they are going to have fly by again this year. I predict the Cowboys will have a great season.

Well Clintons home base probably consider him like a Joe Montana. As far as George Bush he is more like a commisioner that wants to give Mexico their own franchise :-)

Real life video games are cool

Good one Shawn.

Good one Shawn. :)

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Good Restless

I like the comparison you just made.

But I don't see a winning season with either of theswe QBs at the helm

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE

Yeah, the best we can hope

Yeah, the best we can hope for is to keep things from getting too out of hand, build our bench (congress), and hope for a great first round draft choice soon. We definitely have some rebuilding years ahead.

Damn I can't wait until the season starts for real. :)

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

R1, Clinton had essentially four major failings.

1) His hideous tax increase, which I recall he later verbally regretted.

2) His rather weak effort as CIC in Mogadishu.

3) Fighting on the wrong side in Bosnia.

4) His failure to recognize the rising threat of the 7th-Century barbarians.

As for his moral failings, I am not married to Hillary, so I shall reserve judgement here.

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

RD,

I agree with all four. Number one has been rectified somewhat, but that may not last with a dem. congress and obama presidency. As for the other three, we will be battling the effects of those for a long time yet. We will have to find real, consistent leadership to recover from those.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Uh, you missed his radical

Uh, you missed his radical social liberal agenda that permeated his entire presidency.

The worst ever....

um yeah...

To call Clinton the worst ever is to overlook the grand embarrassments that were Andrew Jackson and Jimmy Carter.

Uh, no

I did not overlook them whatsoever.  IMO, he edges out Jimmy Carter.  Of course, that ain't saying much for Jimmy, who has only gotten more wacked-out left in the post-Clintonian era.  And Andrew Jackson, from a much different era, did not veto commonsense bills banning pathetically barbaric and inhumane partial birth abortions.  But I'll grant you this: It would, in fact, make more sense to say "the worst president of the 20th Century," or the "the worst president of modern times," given that it is difficult to compare presidents from distinctly different eras.  Alas, I suppose I fell victim to parroting a very common slogan used by the Left against the sitting president (not even through the lense of 8 years hindsight, mind you).  It is, generally speaking, my SOP to not stupe [sic] to the Left's level of hyperbole, but alas, I'm human too...

it's all good lotr

I agree with your basic point that Clinton was a lousy president. But as you correctly pointed out, calling every new president "the worst ever" causes the accusation to lose its meaning after a while.

Andrew Jackson may not have supported partial birth abortion, but he did support barbaric treatment of Native Americans (his policies led to the Trail of Tears and he didn't even feel bad about it) and he publicly disregarded a SCOTUS decision with the smirky comment that they had no power over the military to enforce it. Couple that with an economic depression that plagued his terms (which he helped create) and his stubborn refusal to work with the other party, well you got yourself one embarrassing president.

Incidentally he was the founder of the modern Democrat party and is responsible for the donkey logo, because the media in his day accused him of being as stupid and as stubborn as a jack - ***.

/history lesson

But yeah, saying Clinton was the worst president of our generation, no prob.

a 4 letter word (along with greed) caused The Trail of Tears.

Gold.

There wasn't much of it compared to the later, more famous, gold rush in California, but when it comes to gold even a little bit is sometimes enough. But, bad as Jackson was, my vote for worst is Woodrow Wilson.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

well sarc

Gold was the impetus behind him ignoring the SCOTUS ruling - but IMO nothing justifies doing what he did.

PS Yeah Wilson was pretty crappy too.

Point taken re Andrew

Point taken re Andrew Jackson.  Sounds like a scumbag of the likes of....   Clinton!  How did he (Jackson) end up on the $20?

well lotr

According to folklore Jackson ran away as a teen to fight in the Revolution. By the War of 1812 he was a sargeant or something and was actually the hero of the Battle of New Orleans.

Though the upper class and the press couldn't stand him, he was quite popular among blue collar workers and immigrants, mostly for employing the same kind of class warfare we hear among Dems today.

As mentioned with the Trail of Tears his biggest accomplishment as president was "securing" the south from Native American threats.

R1, I agree. Clinton was rather conservative in many areas.

To be honest here, perhaps even moreso than GWB, at least in some ways.

At least Clinton didn't sign the senior drug plan (not needed), the numerous bank bailouts, as well as the hideous "housing" bill, nor blanket amnesty for illegal aliens into law, as GWB was more than willing to do.

Hell, Clinton even signed the welfare-reform bill into law.

Would GWB have signed it? I wonder.

And Clinton is definitely more conservative than Juan McClame, IMHO.

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

I just think he was

I just think he was ambivalent to most things. Narcissists are funny that way. If it didn't impact him personally, and nobody bitched too much, he signed the legislation put before him. He didn't do anything spectacular, but he didn't do anything too stupid either, policy wise anyway. Personally, now that's a different story.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

not so much

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I gotta go with the other conservies on here - we had a Republican Congress shaping our taxes and we weren't trying to recover from 9/11 and Katrina within a few short years of each other. If you lived around Ruby Ridge during the Clinton years you didn't think he was all that great. ;-) And PS - there is much more to being President than supporting a good economy.

candance, I'm just sayin' that Bill didn't "push it."

As for Ruby Ridge and Elian Gonzalez, my guess is that he was out of the loop, for the most part. Not trying to excuse him here, but I'm guessing he let "Janet the Hitlerite" run the show whilst he was out chasing, well, you know. 

Look, I ain't sayin' BJ was a great prez, but at least he didn't double the size of the federal government, nor try to grant amnesty to illegals, the latter of which I feel is more of a threat to this country (other than the teacher's unions) than an entire caravan of Osama's.

D.

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

that's true RD

Giving the White House to a "compassionate conservative" was about as helpful as getting a rebellious teen to raise your children - by the time the fruit begins to grow it's too late to reverse course.

If Obama wins Republicans will be handing him a government that already spends money like water and has gotten the people to accept there will never be a border fence. Keep those stimulus checks coming out every six months and the people will clamor to tax the rich for ever more.

The "slow death" approach is starting to actually approach us now and we can't put it off much longer.

shawn, the Clinton budget "surplus" was BS all the way.

Seriously.

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

really dave?

This is news to me. Do tell. Seriously...I was in high school during the Clinton years and barely remember the early ones.

candance & shawn, I'll dig up the links tomorrow...

...as I am having some serious 'puter issues tonight. 

Afraid to open any other windows. Might be crash-city.

-Again. LOL.

I'll give you a hint here:

Herman Cain.

Later,

Dave.

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

RD

You could be right about that. Things were not as great during the Clinton years as the msm lead on, I realize that. My point is just 8 years of a Dem was not that bad

Real life video games are cool

shawn, Clinton was not an idiot, as he did not really alter...

...the economic policies he inherited.

His biggest F-up here economically was his hideous tax increase. Had it not been for that, his major FUBARs were in Bosnia and Mogodishu, and letting that hideous Janet Reno run the "Justice Department" into the ground (Elian and Ruby Ridge), I am giving him a C-.

However, the curve blower was the five attacks Osama's goons carried out against us during his eight years as POTUS, after which his response was less than lame, if not non-existent.

F(-) those two get. :-(

That leaves a mean of D--, I'd say.

After all, a POTUS' first responsibility is to defend the very people who elected him/her. Clinton f'd up here in a HUGE way. :-(

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

RD

So with security as the backdrop, where can we grade President Bush?  True, we haven't had any attacks, but what if the next one comes up through Mexico?

Does he then drop from a B- to an F?

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Cool, I would love to give GWB high marks here...

...as far as attacks on this country go.

Knowing what I do about the way things work in that area, in that most of us will never know how well our intelligence community has truly performed in thwarting attacks against us since 9/11, I have to assume they deserve boo-coo kudos here.

My problem is, given our myriad accomplishments in WW II, particularly within the time frame involved (< 4 years) I am having a really hard time swallowing why the (alleged) greatest military power in recorded history has taken over five years to dispatch with a bunch of 7th century illiterate barbarians.

I find this more than a little troubling, as I believe Harry S. Truman would have made rather short work of same.

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

That's easy RD

We've formed unholy alliances with limp-wristed parasite nations, each of whom add their own specific caveats to the terms of engagement.

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Cool, good point. However, its just too bad that...

...GWB didn't up and kick their lame-asses into line. Harry S. would have.

-And damn fast, for that matter.  :-)

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

shawn et al.

True, we had a budget surplus, and that was a very good thing.  He achieved this by slashing military spending and vastly increasing taxes on the upper-middle and upper classes (the "real" taxpayers).  However, the real problem with our federal budgets, the elephant in the room that no one (especially Democrats) want to talk about, the one that will lead to future deficits even with Clinton-era taxes and military spending, is the mandatory spending, the so-called "entitlement" spending, which currently accounts for half of the federal tax income.  Thanks to "liberalism," people are not having enough babies to support the entitlement system (e.g., social security).  It was under Bubba's watch that interest rates plummeted, leading to the housing bubble that we are now contending with as it "loses its air."  The economy was strong in the 90s because energy (read: oil) was cheap.  Energy (read: oil) was cheap because of stability in the middle-east brought on by Bubba's predecessor.  It would not have been so under Saddam's "fortress middle-east."

Sorry, but lest we all get carried away with 90s nostalgia, Bubba was the worst president we've ever had.  He's the Inspector Clouseau of presidents.  He was a liberal who set the bar for all Democratic candidates of national prominence.  If he can be described as "moderate," it is only because of his political savvy which understood well that far-leftists were not electable.  But thanks to him, the American "center" has moved leftward.  Sorry, but he was the worst.

The worst president we ever had?

lotr,

Things were good under Clinton. I strongly disagree with you saying he is he worst President we ever had.

I thought Republicans liked low interest rates, but they were somehow bad under Clinton?

I also can't believe you think Clinton is responsible for the housing bubble. Homes were still at a decent price under Clinton and people were getting normal mortgages, not someone making  35 K a year, and getting a half million dollar loan during the Bush years

Your right gas and electricity was cheap during the Clinton years, you make it sound like that is bad thing.

What was the national debt before Clinton left? Something like 5.7 trillion?. It is now at 9.5 trillion. It took over 40 Presidents to get to 5.7 trillion, it took only 1 to rack up over 4 trillion. 

I will say again. I admit things might not have been as rosy in the Clinton years as the msm says, but overall things were good under him and he is certainly by far not the worst President we ever had.

Real life video games are cool

Clinton didn't run budget

Clinton didn't run budget matters

the conservative Repub congress did

and for the last 8 years RINO's and libs have been running the $$$ show 

but thanks for playing anyway:)

Truthmonger

The Republican congress led by Newt Gingrich deserves much of the credit, but Clinton signed and vetoed all the right things, which is something a CEO of a company does.

'and for the last 8 years RINO's and libs have been running the $$$ show"  

The GOP had the Presidency and control of both chambers of congress or two years and Dubya did not use hardly used his veto in his whole Presidency until the dems took over in 06

Real life video games are cool

again it's the RINO's and

again it's the RINO's and liberals that have been running the show during the Bush presidency - with Pelosi Reid hammering it home in the last two years - and consequently things suck pretty bad now

Clinton let the conservatives run the budget - he knew that they knew what they were doing - and that he could simply agree and take much of the historic credit - he inherited an astoundingly great economy from Reagan/Bush 41 and the conservative congress

so if you yearn for those "great Clinton years" once again you better try and get another Reagan in there first to fix it all yet again...

The only thing that matters in comparing Deficits is % of GDP

If you look at that, Bush has an insignificant increase when you consider he's fighting a significant War. You can't have a surplus and will always surely have a deficit when fighting a war.

Here is a Graph showing % of GDP - it's the third one down.

We never had a budget surplus - only a PROJECTED surplus

that is quite different. The projected surplus under Clinton assumed that the increased taxes would not affect behavior and that the stock market bubble would continue to grow. It was an imaginary surplus that never materialized because it was a fantasy. It's the same as the PROJECTED deficits under Bush - they were a fantasy that never materialized because they failed to account for the INCREASED receipts due to lower taxes. The Bush Tax cuts reduced the deficit.

Clinton gets no credit for any economic policies other than NAFTA. . Free trade is good for the economy and American consumers. The other things he did either maintained the Republican (Regan) status quo (like leaving the Regan appointed Greenspan in the Fed reserve) or hurt in the long run, (like raising taxes and ignoring the stock market bubble and the unrealistic capital gains for companies that had no substance). The stock market dive was completely predictable. The bubble was sure to burst and it was just a matter of when.

Clinton was abysmal in his Foreign policy and running after terrorists as individual criminals and running away in Modgadishu. Bin Laden used his weakness as a rallying cry.

lotr...I've regained consciousness after reading your post

Sorry, but lest we all get carried away with 90s nostalgia, Bubba was the worst president we've ever had. 

If you can find me a single presidential historian [liberal, conservative, independent or otherwise] who, based on policy assessment, agrees with your judgment that Clinton was the worst president ever, I'll buy you dinner at your favorite restaurant in the USA.

Good grief, lotr.  I could spew out a laundary list of negative factoids about my favorite president--Reagan--and claim the Gipper is the worst of all time.  It would be nonsense of course.

Jer 

Jer

Yes, I got a bit carried away, I'll admit.  Per my discussion with Candance above, I'm modifying my statement: he was the Worst President of the 20th Century.

My "laundry list" was actually a group of rebuttals to the aforementioned "laundry list" that he was somehow an effectual, and, I can hardly bring myself to say it, conservative, president.  They weren't a random set of "factoids."  Pretty much everything positive that happened under his watch were either fortuitous, temporary, or could be attributed to his successors.  Take his budget surpluses: They were not sustainable.  They were a temporary solution, one that he could claim an achievment on, but they are not a long term solution.  That was his MO.  I'll give him credit, though, in his raising awareness of a balanced budget.

 

lotr

My vote (again) goes to Jimmy Carter as the worst President in history.

That should be obvious to even the dullest DEM since everything started coming up roses when Ronald Reagan took over.

Dems still believe Reagan was stupid, so logic should dictate even an idiot was better than Carter.

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Cool...Personally, I think

Cool...Personally, I think Carter was the worst in my lifetime, but it's a stretch to put him lower than some of those 19th century dudes--or Harding later on.

And why would I rate Reagan the best prez in my lifetime if I thought he were stupid?

Jer

Jer

I don't know if Harding let any failed rescue missions slide with a "tuck tail and run attitude", but I may be wrong.

And the Reagan part is just a Dem Talking Point.  A few are only now coming out with words of admiration for him (Obama, for one), But you can't tell me the Dems weren't all giddy about their invented story about Reagan and AIDS "Well, they live in sin, they die in sin"

The hatred for Reagan was rancid from the left.  Glad you're not part of it.

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Cool...

I didn't vote for Reagan, but I never felt any hatred for him, or anything close to it.  I started reassessing my overall opinion about him and his presidency in the mid-90's, and the more objectively I examined, the better I thought of him.

Jer

lotr...

I'm modifying my statement: he was the Worst President of the 20th Century.

Well, I guess that's progress.  If you're ever in Atlanta, I'll buy you dinner anyway.

Jer

lotr, the budget "surplus" under Clinton was an illusion.

It did not exist.

Ever.

We are not going to save this country by being polite to those who are
working tirelessly (and succeeding right handily) at destroying it.

right Jer

Because running around bragging "I'm the biggest thing since Paris Hilton" is sooooo like making an old person joke.

If you insist on calling Obama's remark self-deprecating that's your choice. (As an aside, Andrea Mitchell dubbed that the official explanation two days ago and I'm already sick of hearing it) However self-deprecation is in essence the act of ridiculing or abasing yourself.

Only in lefty logic does I'm bigger than Paris Hilton = poor little me. As for your question, no it wouldn't bother me because I saw it coming six months ago and would actually be shocked if Democrats don't bring it up. That's the nature of politics and that's why McCain is laughing it off himself.

Which is exactly what Obama SHOULD be doing with this. Drawing more attention to it only makes him look a whiner, especially with the racist accusation. If he keeps this up for the next three months Americans are going to start hearing the man who cried wolf.

If he wants to call himself a rock star, have workouts with teen girls half his age, and brag about the size of the crowds at his speeches then he darn well needs to be ready for people to mention it.

I thought Obama said he

I thought Obama said he didn't believe McCain was racist?

Maybe,

But I haven't heard him denounce those that have, including those in his campaign.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

So candance...exactly where

So candance...exactly where does Obama make the statement you have quoted, you know, the one you have put in quotation marks and described as Obama's brag:  "I'm the biggest thing since Paris Hilton".

I can't seem to find the quote [which, if accurate, could reasonably be labeled as offputting self-promotion] .  There is the one which is the subject of this blog wherein he jokes about being "overexposed".   Hardly seems like bragging, but if you insist on calling it such, that's your choice.

Jer

um...okay...

Sorry to confuse you with the quote marks. I was paraphrasing his point without trying to be too verbose.

I saw it as bragging - you don't. That's the detente we'll have to settle on.

It would be fun to postulate on what would happen if the shoe were on the other foot, but since hell will freeze over before a conservative is treated like a rock star I guess we'll never know.

Touche`, candance...

It would be fun to postulate on what would happen if the shoe were on the other foot, but since hell will freeze over before a conservative is treated like a rock star I guess we'll never know.

Touche`...

On the other hand, it seems the more Obama is treated like a rock star--and the less media attention is given to McCain's bumbling campaign--the faster Obama's lead has vanished.

Jer

this is true

Obama's victory lap through Europe has backfired, and McCain's ads are hitting at just the right time. Right or wrong, McCain's ads coupled with Obama's reaction are hitting a nerve.

Hitting a nerve is right

And notice Obama's fallback position is that of a victim because he doesn't look like any Presidents on US currency.

Count on this to be the tack at least until Americans have had a belly full of his victicrat mentality.

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candance...There is a

candance...There is a certain brutal efficiency to Republican scorched earth tactics employed in presidential campaigns which can't be ignored.  I watched Dukakis run the "gentlemanly" campaign, and have his head handed to him while blowing a 17 point lead in the polls.

Republicans are masters of the game.  They know how to win, and their repeated successes evoke a grudging admiration from this Democrat.

Jer

 

Good point Jer

I remember very clearly George Bush holding a gun to Dukakis' head and forcing him to let Willie Horton out on a furlough.

And then, Bush had the audacity to dress Dukakis up in military gear for a photo-op in a tank.

Of course the Bush National Guard scene with Dan Rather had nothing to do with any "scorched earth" attempt either, right?

On the one hand, the unvarnished truth.  On the other, forged documents and slander.

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Cool...I have to admit

Cool...I have to admit "Dukakis in the tank" was laughable and is an appropriate metaphor for his entire campaign.  Your remaining points are less convincing.

Jer

In other words

Dukakis did not sign the legislation that freed Willie Horton?

Or, The contrived last minute attack from Dan Rather was a fair assessment and timely?

Again, facts versus slander.

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Jer, LOL-methinks you are giving the repubs too much credit.

Dukakis cooked his own goose, essentially.

I mean, good grief!

The hapless repubs essentially stood on the sidelines, gawking at their sudden good fortune!

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

Jer,

Pointing out the lack of substance behind the facade that is the icon obama is "scorched earth tactics"? Gee, and I thought this election cycle was driving us conservatives crazy.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Restless...You're

Restless...You're confused.  Please see my reply to you earlier in the thread.  I'm not bothered by the "lack of substance" and "rock star" charges.  I think that is fair game.

Jer

Jer,

I replied to the wounded soldiers point you are making above. I see it the same way. It is the truth. Obama's actions have spoken louder than words, and McCain is calling him on it. It is time for obama to quit making excuses and explain himself.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Oh, and Jer,

You do realize that I am equating the "would rather win" statement and the "paris/bitney" ad as equally accurate. I know you are arguing from a position of one is but not the other. I wouldn't want you to think me confused or something. :)

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Restless...I meant

Restless...I meant "confused" in a very temporary and very limited sense.  Otherwise, I think you are just wrong. :-)

Jer

well Jer

I really don't mind "scortched earth" as long as you're being honest and logical. Politics is a game we play to decide the fate of our entire country. Sometimes it's rough to see a win-at-all cost kind of campaign, but at the end of the day we are fighting for our paychecks and in some cases for our very lives.

I'm not condoning any kind of lying, cheating, twisting or spinning. But it becomes our politcians to tell us exactly what's up without sugar coating anything.

As to Dukakis, yeah I'm with the others. He messed that up his own self and Republicans were just smart enough to pick up the ball.

candance...

In my opinion, saying someone doesn't care about wounded troops is a cheap shot; particularly when that someone had been visiting wounded troops without fanfare or publicity.  If a Democrat had flung that kind of garbage at a Republican, this site would be in total meltdown mode.

Jer

really

He's visited wounded troops without fanfare? When? (Yes I realize that sounds like begging the question - if he did it secretly there's no article to link - BUT) You can't just say something like that without details.

I'm not calling you a liar or saying I don't believe you, I just want details.

As for the charge that he doesn't care about wounded troops..well..in McCain's defense, Obama is playing politics with the surge and giving credit to all the wrong people, which does make those soldiers feel he doesn't care about their efforts. Couple that with his tacit acceptance of people like Harry Reid and his known friendship with people like William Ayers, it makes you wonder how much respect he really has for the military.

And if he had a good reason for canceling that trip I'd like to hear it. All we've been given thus far is some jive about cameras not being allowed...which only adds more to the notion of his ego being more important.

In short McCain's words mght have been a little blunt, but he did voice something a lot of people feel.

Well said Candance. I tried

Well said Candance. I tried to make a similar point above, but you just nailed it.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

I think he has

I think he has visited Walter Reed a few times.

I think his first was to call attention to atrocious living conditions, or something like that.

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I think he has

I think he has visited Walter Reed a few times.

I think his first was to call attention to atrocious living conditions, or something like that.

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candance...I think the

candance...I think the "surge" issue is something McCain can and should rightfully trumpet at every opportunity.

Regarding Obama's troop visits, just take my word for it tonight and I'll try to furnish the details tomorrow.  But one visit was during his recent trip overseas while he was in Iraq.  There is a Combat Support facility in the Green Zone of Baghdad, and that is where Obama spent time with wounded and injured military personnel.

Jer

I heard that obama ate his

I heard that obama ate his meal, separated from the troops, and promptly took off without a word to them. I'll see if I can find that somewhere as well.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Restless...I think that

Restless...I think that rumor is from the discredited email making the rounds a couple of weeks ago, and then ignominiously withdrawn by the author who admitted its inaccuracies and apologized for its dissemination.

Jer

Restless...I think that

Restless...I think that rumor is from the discredited email making the rounds a couple of weeks ago, and then ignominiously withdrawn by the author who admitted its inaccuracies and apologized for its dissemination.

Jer

Here is how obama "visited"

Here is how obama "visited" the troops in Afghanistan. Perhaps he treated the troops in Baghdad better? 

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Restless...that email is a LIE

Restless...That email account is a disgusting LIE and has been withdrawn by its author who has apologized for the shameless smear.

Yet many good, intelligent people like you and others here will read it and believe it.

Jer

Thanks restless

I hadn't seen that email.

But is the "John McCain received $1.1 million from big oil" also a disgusting LIE?

One would have to conclude it is.

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Cool...

But is the "John McCain received $1.1 million from big oil" also a disgusting LIE?

I have no idea.  What are the facts?  Do you know?  If so, tell me. 

If McCain didn't receive a penny, then I would categorize the claim a "disgusting lie".  If he only received $1 million, I would say it was only a slightly inaccurate statement.  If it were somewhere in between, my opinion would vary accordingly.

Jer

By the way, why are you thanking Restless for [unintentionally] spreading defamatory crap?

Jer, according to WaPo

According to WaPo it is.  Of course they minimize the fact these are individuals donating.  The story as one might suspect is BIG OIL.

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Cool...The Big Oil example

Cool...The Big Oil example is not even in the same league with the scurrilous, bald-face lying, despicably malicious email.  About the worst one can say regarding the former is that it could be construed as slightly misleading in that it actually includes oil and gas industry related donations.

Jer

Thanks restless

I hadn't seen that email.

But is the "John McCain received $1.1 million from big oil" also a disgusting LIE?

One would have to conclude it is, and a shameless smear to boot.

Thanks

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And if he had a good reason

And if he had a good reason for canceling that trip I'd like to hear it. All we've been given thus far is some jive about cameras not being allowed...which only adds more to the notion of his ego being more important

That "jive about cameras not being allowed" is straight from the Republican attack ad.  Obama never intended to take cameras or the media along while visiting the military hospital in Germany.  But questions about the nature of the visit did arise since the non-Iraqi/Afghanistan segment of the trip was campaign funded, and Obama thought that going forward with it would provoke charges he was "politicizing" the visit and using the troops as political pawns.   So it was canceled.  And McCain slammed him anyway.

Jer

But Jer

Weren't there questions (beforehand) about Obama having a seemingly Presidential rally in Germany?  Weren't questions raised about him having said rally at the foot of Hitler's favorite monument?

Didn't the Chancellor refuse to allow him the Brandenburg Gate supposedly because it seemed a bit presumptuous of him?

Seems in this case, he didn't bow to pressure except when it was an absolute refusal of permission.

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Make no mistake, Cool...I

Make no mistake, Cool...I think Obama should have gone ahead with the hospital visit.  The decision to cancel generated the same type of criticism he was trying to avoid--only worse.

Jer

And, Jer

I submit he tries to deflect attention from his misstep at Landstuhl with his lame race card play.

Shameful and dethpicable (Daffy Duck)

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Only if Obama had no idea

Only if Obama had no idea what he was actually comparing his sudden fame to. 

*****

"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will 

Oh, well, that explains

Oh, well, that explains it.

bowls-boa

What ole Mac is sayin is, o-Dumb-uh has about as much bussiness bein pres as paris or brit, about the same qualifications, and i agree, and i hope Mac sticks with it and brings some more uv it.

(GRINS)  kilrod

Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier

Ouch.  Coincidence?  I

Ouch.  Coincidence?  I think not.

well, hell, if that was

well, hell, if that was mccain's reasoning why didn't he say that?

oh, wait. it wasn't his resoning. that's okay, make up excuses for mccain and most of the readers here will buy it.

please crshedd

Get a clue before you come on here. Watch the McCain ad and you'll see that this is exactly what McCain said - Obama is treated as a rock star to the point people treat him like Paris Hilton.

Please watch the ad yourself and then tell me McCain made a point about racism.

Seton

Seton,

ABSOLUTELY DELICIOUS! Can I get fries with that? :-) ns

I believe a little humble

I believe a little humble pie goes well with those McCain's (brand) fries?

If the media fails to pick up on this little nugget, perhaps a follow-up McCain commercial might highlight the Senator from Illinois' exact words.

Hmm... Was this a deliberate trap?

*****

"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will 

Seton Motely and Matthew

Seton Motely and Matthew Vadum...

Now this is rich!

Thank you!

Now I hope someone from our side of the aisle picks this up and runs with it at least for a segment on one of the talking head shows somewhere...let alone talk radio... at least for one day.

This has got to come back and bite all the leftist talking heads that have been whining...especially the likes of Andrea Mitchell, Matthews, Olbie ect....let alone the biggest intentional whiner of all, the candy-a$$ of all candy-a$$es...Obama himself.

They should be confronted with this....a political ad would be perfect too, using Obama's own words ect. 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

I wonder if it would be appropriate...

In the unhealthy and dreaded event that BHO is elected in November...would it be appropriate to refer to his administration as the Brittany Bunch and his foreign pollicy (such as it is) to the Paris Doctrines?

 

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.

Wait. I'm not sure I

Wait. I'm not sure I understand. So, who is the Messiah - Barak Obama or Paris Hilton? Please advise. I need to know who I'm supposed to be worshipping.

McNotObama '08

Incredible!

I find it incredible that I was apparently the first person to notice that Obama previously compared himself to Paris Hilton. The mainstream media must be asleep at the switch.

Matthew Vadum

Incredible? Apparently,

Incredible? Surely, you are being rhetorical - otherwise, they've been asleep at a helluva lot of switches...

McNotObama '08

No way!

No way!

*****

"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will 

Where's the sex tape then?

No comment.

Thomas Jefferson once said, 'We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.' And ever since he told me that, I stopped worrying. 

- Ronald Reagan

Here we go again

One more time, Obama will have to make a speech explaining that he didn't mean exactly what he said. We completely misinterpreted him. Then he will make another fake apology, saying “I'm sorry but whatever I did was justified by the Bush administration/oil companies/big business/white racists/gun owners/radical Christians”.I wonder if someone has a list of how many times he did this in his campaign.

 

Perhaps the Obama campaign

Perhaps the Obama campaign can come up with yet another web site to explain what he really means when he says something.

McNotObama '08

Is Paris Offended, Too?

Now that Sen. Obama's people have come to his rescue to explain how he's been offended by being compared to Paris Hilton, I wonder when Paris will have her people come forward and explain how she's also been offended by being compared to Obama.

GD... Hehehe...that was

GD...

Hehehe...that was good...too bad her mommy didn't say that today, instead she is angry at the wrong person/party.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Overexposed?

If he were really exposed, every American would see what a rotten, America hating commie sob this guy is.  

Overblown is more like it or maybe Olberblown.

Obama vs. Hilton

About the only thing more hilarious than Obama comparing himself to Paris Hilton is the posting from "balboa" trying to say this isn't basically the same thing McCain said.

 As for me, I think Obama should be President.  I mean, he may not be qualified for the job, but he DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express one night.

Barack Obama

Democrat and presidential candidate Barack Obama is an egomaniac. The United States of America does not need an egomaniac. It needs a leader.

Thank you for your time.

http://theoutlander....

I agree with you Balboa,

I agree with you Balboa, bambi (aka 57 states) is unfit for office. 

Motley Wins!

Seton Motley wins the "Clog the Blog" award today for having his most recent offering linked by the Drudge Report.

Took 3 minutes for NB to load.

Good work Seton!

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CA... Ah ha...so I wonder

CA...

Ah ha...so I wonder if that was what was wrong with this blog post all day long?

I posted on OT about it earlier, plus boa and I were just chatting about it.

Being linked to Drudge could screw this blog up like that....hmmm.

Learn something everyday. 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Yeah

Seen it before.

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Barack's Overexposure

Barry O. is such a little girly-man. All he does is whine about being picked on. He had to have had a bodyguard when he was growing up, unless he grew up in a gated community that we don't know about yet and he was driven to private school each day.

Interesting that he can compare himself to Paris H. but no one else dare do so. That guy is going to make a great prez. He will probably want France to help us when the going gets tough.

He should do the country a big favor and go back to being an ACORN street organizer after John M. whoops his sorry butt in Nov.

 

Mark Levin mentioned this

Mark Levin mentioned this on his radio program this evening, pointing out that NB was the source.

Great work Seton !

 

"They're both doofuses!" --Mark Levin (speaking of Obama and McCain)

McCain's ad must have

McCain's ad must have really hit close to home if it has the usual cast of whining liberals like balboa all in a dither. I love that the ad simultaneously pointed out Obama's lack of credentials and poked fun at the media's pathetic, fawning coverage of him. If McCain's coverage is smart (and that's a big "if" thus far), they will continue to produce ads like this.

Well they better...since

Well they better...since Rick Davis took over, you can really tell the difference..in McCain and his answers too...

Earlier he would of apologized, taken the ad down and thrown somebody under the bus.

Seems to be a winning strategy...they should stick with it.

I just have the most fun watching the msm spin for him while whining like little children, wringing their hands...while the tall sissified jug-head is crying the loudest....

What a man!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

CJK51, I have never "whined"

CJK51, I have never "whined" about this ad. Thanks, though. 

Aw, stop your whining! 45

Aw, stop your whining!

45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm

Ooooohhhhhhh, but

Ooooohhhhhhh, but cleeeeearrrrr! ;-)

(Anyone remember Doug and Wendy Whiner from SNL? They were always complaining about getting diverticulitis?) 

A natural comparison

It was a natural comparison. Obama and Paris can both point to the same number of accomplishments in the senate – zero.

Hey Seton Motley...your

Hey Seton Motley...your article got mentioned on Rush...he said NBs...but we here that were on this blog yesterday knew this was your great work!

It was worth the problems we had yesterdday posting here, what with Drudge linking to it ect.

Good work...I loved it!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh