Do you think it belongs here given the context of the campaign and the media's biased involvement? Or, is this not fitting for NB? I'm asking because I'm not sure myself. ns
"It sounds like Paris Hilton supports John McCain's 'all of the above' approach to America’s energy crisis -- including both alternatives and drilling. Paris Hilton might not be as big a celebrity as Barack Obama, but she obviously has a better energy plan."
Honestly, I don't think sleeping with Paris would be a good idea, health-wise. Plus, conversation would be at a premium because...I'm not sure she's all that...(what's the word)..."deep."
Deleted due to an uncontrollable and quite surprising wave of decency overtaking me temporarily.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Perhaps I missed something in the video, as the kids are sleeping and I had to keep the volume down some, (sound reverberates through this house like you wouldn't believe), but what was so great about the energy policy? Sounded like she said we should tax oil companies to pay for aternative research. Shouldn't that decision be left to the companies, as to where they want to invest their profits? I don't trust govt. to do any meaningful research, and my tax dollars shouldn't go to private companies for research. I am all for companies funding alternative energy research, but not being forced by govt. to do so.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
We're having some fun here, man. You really want to debate this twit's energy policy that she presented in a $500 bathing suit? C'mon.
Okay, let's do it. She says she wants a hybrid of McCain and Obama's proposals:
We can do limited offshore drilling, with strict environmental oversight, while creating tax incentives to get Detroit to make hybrid and electric cars. That way, the offshore drilling carries us until the new technologies kick in which will then create new jobs and energy independence.
As I said, I think this is a MUCH better plan than what Obama, Reid, and Pelosi are proposing. You disagree? ns
"Responsible drilling" is just code words for "highly restricted drilling". Should this ever come to a vote in Congress, we must diligently study the wording, lest nance use HER imagination with it.
Oh, and I know a lot of former roughnecks. I work in the oil and gas industry. Believe me, they are responsible workers who just want to end their shifts with same number of appendages they started with.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
I said I didn't hear the video very well. Tax incentives are entirely different than what I thought I heard, although I don't necessarily care for them either.
That said, I get the humor part of all of this, so I'll let it go. :)
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
$1000 shoes. Remember, one needs the perfect shoes to complement the $500 bathing suit one wears while out thinking Barry, Harry and Nancy between travel magazine articles.
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
"limited" offshore drilling, what is "limited" and under the eye of who? Greenpeace or the Sierra Club? Then subsidize the suck ass automakers in Detroit who cannot figure out why the Japanese are kicking their ass? I'll pass.
That is Obama's plan! Didn't anyone here his speech yesterday?
Paris is dumb as a stump, but I am biased. I prefer brunettes. :)
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
actually. She didn't say to tax the oil companies she said give tax incentives for car companies to provide hybrid cars. Her policy was comprehensive (like McCain's) saying drill and give tax incentives for new technologies.
Obama is the only one who is leaving things off the table. Even Paris Hilton can see that you need to work on everything.
I get it. See my response to Noel above. Perhaps in the future, I will get into why I find it offensive for the govt. to offer money back to it's citezens that it shouldn't have taken in the first place, to "encourage" people to do as the govt. wishes.
Okay, okay, I'm done for now. Back to the funnies. :)
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
And thanks for the post. I guess I'm getting curmudgeonely in my old age. :)
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Really - even an air-head bimbo can see that we need a comprehensive solution and that is what Republicans and McCain want. Paris unfortunately has media mush brain when it comes to understanding what Republicans are proposing because she doesn't even realize that McCain is advocating a comprehensive plan. It's not her fault really because the media doesn't like that word to get out.
I do agree that lowering the tax rate overall is preferable. Corporate tax rates in the U.S. are too high and it just causes non compliance through loopholes or cheating or just moving businesses out of the U.S. I'd still prefer tax incentives vs not lowering or raising corporate taxes though.
Tax incentives vs. Tax increases. Yeah I agree with you there, but I still find it offensive when the common thief known as our govt. offers me some of my money back if I toe their line.
(I am trying to get my sense of humor back, it is just hard when I hear the word "tax". It makes me crazy. :))
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
After being taken to task for not getting with the program and having some fun on this thread, I thought maybe I was caught in the vaccuum between Paris' ears.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Yes, but you raise a good point: "I will be impressed if Paris can convince Nancy Pelosi to expand offshore drilling."
Is it possible she speaks for her generation concerning this? The recent Zogby numbers showed a huge decline in Obama's support from 18-29 year olds. Maybe drilling is an issue for these folks. Maybe 18-29 year olds, out on their own and supporting themselves, are the most impacted by high energy prices. Maybe these folks want drilling for this reason, and Paris hit on this.
I wasn't aware of the Zogby numbers. Very interesting. Are there any polls on offshore/ANWR drilling separated by age groups?
Hard to say the basis for Paris' comments - her parents (who are/were supporting McCain - perhaps, pragmatists?) or reality (the impact of high CA gasoline- though it doesn't affect her personally, but she might see the impact on others).
Noel, you raise an interesting theory. Her generation was not around during the Santa Barbara spill, and they were 10 years old or younger during the Exxon Valdez spill. By the same token, her generation was not around during the Three-Mile island release and may have a favorable view of nuclear energy.
Like I said, I think it was a clever "I'm not a ditz ALL of the time" reply. Plus, I'll be doubly impressed if she can solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. - George Bernard Shaw, 1944
But I'd no more ask Paris Hilton for an opinion on what her age group is thinking than ask my cat about Global Warming.
Paris Hilton is so atypical...how could she possibly know anything about her "peer group"?
One must give her some credit though...she plays the idiot perfectly, while parlaying her name into a bona fide fortune which she DIDN'T inherit. She's crazy like a fox, I think.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
I slightly disagree. As you alluded to in your post, she's not as stupid as she lets on and her parents are involved enough to be McCain supporters. She might not have to worry about gas money, but even she can see how fretful everyone is over energy.
I can pretty guarantee that after this video has been out for a while, more and more teens/young adults will be echoing this - and if it paves the way for domestic drilling who am I to complain.
I'm with Noel - I don't think she just spouted a script without at least a basic understanding of what it meant. She obviously had someone write it down for her, but she did manage to appear like she really believed and understood, which is more than we got from Nancy Pelosi on Sunday.
I say give the girl the benefit of the doubt. At least she isn't using her fame to peddle some dumb idea like "use it or lose it."
"The recent Zogby numbers showed a huge decline in Obama's
support from 18-29 year olds. Maybe drilling is an issue for these folks. Maybe
18-29 year olds, out on their own and supporting themselves, are the most
impacted by high energy prices."
Or maybe…could it possibly be?...they are growing up?
There is even a thin – I did not say “skinny” – glimmer of maturity coming from Paris (Hilton, that is).
Thank You! I do not understand what guys see in her. Maybe it is her total lack of morals and she would do it anyway, anytime, anyhow with anyone. However, her nose is the size of Rhode Island and her boobs are the size of a marble, her pussy is probably as loose as a $5 whore and her brain jiggles areound loosly in her head. She has no respect for anyone who is hard working and has principles. Her family and hotel chain disrespects the military at every turn. Meanwhile, you are married to someone who has said she will be faithful to you, puts up with your disgusting behaviors, raises your children with love, cleans your home and clothes and I don't blame her if after all of her hard work and devotion she has zero respect for you because you drool over a disrespectul, ugly, whore. Good job men! (cool, that was not directed at you, you men above know who I am referring to, "good " Christian ones too! shame on you!)
Amber, yes she is skinny and all the rest. I think most of the attraction is in her money. Just think of that brand new Ranger Z in the 5 car garage! :-)
Every winter I have a bout 10 of them, Lunds mostly, in my quonset. Funny, but 2 of them have not left the property in 5 years. I don't understand why people spend that much money and never use it. (we rent space to them)
Democrats have a poor reputation already so they should be scared, very scared when Paris and the sluts start campaigning for them. She might 'upgrade' their slimey reputation and cost them millions of votes.
Given that I'm tryin to figure out if Rick Solomon is gonna be the head of her Department of the Interior. You know she has quite the list of men with experience in that position to choose from. :-}
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Last Friday, My place of work has a flat Screen in the Coffee Room.
(This is a real MSM story, not made up)
Corp..shall remain nameless, but they have their TV's in the break rooms set to Headline News...no other Options...and I gotta make a New Pot of coffee, and Headline news is covering the latest Britney Spears story, child custody, her father, the court process, ad nauseum for about 5 Solid minutes. Just showing Pics and expounding on Britney Spears....So I'm thinking, Gee this is exactly what McCain was talking about with Obamarama, and wouldn't it be Great if this was followed by the MSM talking about McCain's new Ad...
WELL, I just about Dropped the POT of Coffee...becasue they DID IT...they followed this Britney thing with a story on McCain's ad that is comparing Obama to Britney, etc..etc......
I'm thinking GEE, you guys just justified/supported McCain's whole premise with the Britney story and your fawning over her problems and life and all kinds of who cares details....I just could NOT believe that the MSM just doesn't "Get IT"....they must not watch their own channels.
It was un-believable ignorance of the Bias'd coverage by MSM of POP tarts and the equivalent Obama like worship...ROFL...
Glad you liked it. This is a good spoof on her part. She's making fun of both candidates as well as herself while actually offering a better solution to the energy crisis than the entire Democrat party.
Whoever came up with this for her did a nice job. It's something people on both sides of the aisle should be able to laugh at if they have ANY sense of humor. ns
Wait a minute: didn't I ask for your opinion? Didn't you say this belonged here? I re-read your initial post, and I didn't get where you were angry about this. ns
This is outrageous, Noel. One of our own disagreeing?
Are you going to have BT's membership cancelled? or at least suspended?
(YES, THIS IS ALL A JOKE.... which BT might also find not very funny :p)
Btw, it was sort of funny, but I also sort of agree with BT regarding the whole culture of caring about this bimbo one iota. It's how low we've sunk in pop culture, I think.... i.e., her, the other bimbo's, reality TV, vacuous celeb adoration, etc..
It's how low we've sunk in pop culture, I think.... i.e., her, the other bimbo's, reality TV, vacuous celeb adoration, etc..
Which was McCain's whole point in using her in the ad about why the adoration for Obama...especially the msm too.
If anybody goes and rereads my posts from the beginning, I never implied that I thought this was funny... I had seen this numerous times already on the msm...the left loved glorifying in it... I was speaking politically.
I'm not a guy, I don't think she's funny one bit, I don't think she is pretty one bit, and I sure as hell don't think she is a sexy woman in any way...camera angles may work for the horny fella's out there...but she is a dime a dozen...except she has money...she doesn't need it to pay to be a slut...she does it for free.
...but heck...she's funny.
Sorry...my funny-bone just isn't working tonight.
Btw MrS...Noel and I have had disagreements before...I'm still here...I think...lol.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
I give it a "Funny." Probably the funniest thing she's ever done (intentionally). Not that the bar was very high on that one, but she obviously has a sense of humor about herself.
I thought it was surprisingly sharp satire. She talks for the first half like we expect her to... then she suddenly has this lucid moment where she's describing details of a viable energy policy. Sure, she probably has no idea what she's saying, but it's hilarious hearing those big words come out of her mouth.
Sort of reminds me of those moments in SpongeBob Squarepants where Patrick Star suddenly shirks his overwhelming dimness to make astute observations.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
The website that produced Paris' video is called "Funny or Die." So he's making a pun that if they didn't succeed at being funny then "die" is the only alternative.
Viewers are given an opportunity to vote "funny" or "die" on the videos at the site. I'm not sure exactly what happens, but they may remove videos that are voted to "die."
Sorry I didn't make my reference clearer.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Thank you posting that, and your right some one with ANY sense of humor would have liked it
Have you ever seen this video of McCain girl? I can't decide if it is for or against McCain. I found the final sentence a little offensive, but I thought it was hilarious.
"her pussy is probably as loose as a $5 whore and her brain jiggles areound loosly in her head."
Ouch. Never been a big fan of Paris Hilton, but I actually thought she looked quite nice in this vide. I personally am not sure about the looseness part :-)
I think we're all just making fun of Paris, nothing she hasn't done to herself. From a "leaked" sex video to practically anything else she's done. Perhaps we stepped over a line, but it's not a line Paris drew.
Are you serious? You (wink wink) get behind her "energy policy" in response to a couple of guys who want to replace her with their wives. Please. I'll be a lady if you be a gentleman.
Those comments had nothing to do with her video. I thought we were to stick with the topic. Frankly I am sick of seeing guys on here talking about women in that manner. It reflects poorly on themselves and their commitment to their wives. It is disgusting.
Excuse me, but I made a statement with a humorous double entendre. You equate that to specifically referring to genitalia in what some might consider a disparaging fashion? ns
I disagree, I know plenty of men who never refer to women as though they are a rag doll solely designed to be a vessel for their sperm.
So, you don't mind when men craftily say they want to F... a total stranger, probably 20+ years their junior? I understand why you would take offense to my previous comment, it was visually appauling.
I will also add that it is not the object of the joke that makes it OK, it is the person who says it. "Getting behind" Ann Coulter would be terribly disrespectful to say, but because Paris acts the whore it is ok to say that about her? I disagree. When I read that, I do not see clever wit, I see the one saying it actually wants to replace their wife with her, I see the one saying it actually enjoying giving it to her from behind. It is not a joke to me. It is what is wrong with many marrigaes today. People do not respect or honor their spouses. There is truth behind most jokes. Would you want the man you love to joke about replacing you with Paris Hilton or giving it to her from behind? Seriously. It really saddens me. It is wrong.
Noel, I do not find that humerous at all. I think it is disrespectful. As a woman and a wife, to hear married men refer to other women in a sexual fashion is a betrayal to your spouse. We are to honor and respect and love our wives and husbands, speaking or writing in that manner does the exact opposite.
My comment above was very harsh towards Ms. Hilton and I appologize to her. I am sorry if she was hurt by that. My anger is not directed towards her it is directed towards the hosts of men who think it is fine to disrespect women and their wives.
So, when comedians like Henny Youngman and Rodney Dangerfield make jokes about their wives, they're being disrespectful? Or when a comedienne like Brett Butler makes a joke about her husband, that's disrespectful, too? ns
Well, fair enough. However, for decades, most comedy has had a sexual element to it. Even the Marx Brothers going back to the '20s used a lot of double entendre. Groucho was always putting down Margaret Dumont, and always had a younger gal he was chasing in every film. So, I'm not sure where you draw the line. Mae West and WC Fields are other examples. ns
Noel, I do not have a problem with sexual comedy or comedy about marriage. I can joke with the best of them (but I would never disrespect my husband or make him the object of a joke, never). What was posted above was not sexual comedy, it was sexual fantasy at the expense of women and wives.
Well, I'm not sure how my double entendre concerning getting behind Paris's energy policy either involves or defames my wife. Aren't you jumping to some conclusions about the relationship that I or any of the other male posters have with our wives? Maybe they'd think this was all harmless good fun as well. After all, it is just a message board. We're not at church or in a synogogue. ns
I thought about saying something also but because all but one (not including Noel) of the people involved were people I've had problems with, I chose to remain silent and try and direct the subject to a more appropriate angle because I knew if I said something it would be some long drawn out fight. I'm surprised at what is happening with you. The one person I'm thinking of hasn't tried to defend the behavior yet and I'm sure would apologize to you or I or any other female who said they were offended.
In the past when I've found sexual innuendo offensive the conservatives here have always been respectful about it and just said sorry and stopped. Liberals never have. It seems too many people want to be like liberals here any more and find them to be something to emulate. It never used to be like that.
I thought Noels initial comment was fine (under the line) but the comments to follow were not. We all have different lines and it's too bad that people don't have enough respect to just stop and apologize. We all know how men can be and I'd never think less of any of them if they stopped and/or apologized. It's so disappointing how they dig in and try to turn us into some sort of prudes. We can't change what is said here, we can only change who we have respect for.
If you read my last semi-long post above I mentioned horny men ect. I was mainly attemting to stay to the politics of this ad last night.
I'm no prude either, far from that... nor am I fat or ugly either amber as I saw you post earlier...I was going to comment then but I am in the middle of watering and had forgot about it til just now.
...anyway amber, you aren't alone.
Just wanted you to know.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
Thanks bigtimer. I think people sometimes forget that this is not a men's club. There are women here too and they are not making their comments in private.
Sorry you were alone last night. I did not see the thread but from what I gather, I would be in agreement with you.
it was late and I was going to bed and just didn't want to get involved because, as I said, there are so many on this thread who don't like me - it's become a sort of club that I really just want no part of anymore. Rude crude and totally unattractive is how they are perceived by me.
I'm far from a prude either and don't mind some harmless sexual banter here and there. It's a respect type of thing that is individual for everyone and I really can't believe how this site has changed because the regulars used to all be very gentlemanly.
There has definitely been way to much liberal influence here and unfortunately I think it's here to stay. They are just so "cool" you know. Some people are very influenced by "cool".
Still can't say you were wrong? My comments were only illustrating the kind of women you wanted to bang from behind and other posters wanted to trade their wives for. Yes, my comment was visually appauling (go ahead and delete it the point was made), but you are the one who put the video up and ENCOURAGED the raunchy behavior. It isyour thread to control and you did a very poor job of that.
I thought you were smarter than that. Go ahead, tell you wife you thought it was funny to say you wanted to bang Paris from behind. Ha ha. Maybe she thinks it is harmless, I do not. Maybe you should tell the other women working there, or maybe you should tell some of the women reporters you get to talk to, I be they will see the humor too. Sorry you think it isOK to talk about women like they are objects for your ejactualtions. (See I can do double entendre too)
You don't get it, actually I think you do but you can't say you are wrong, so I am done with this. I made my point.
I know a lot of people here like to get into that - words are just words to me and the types of words people use don't offend me.
What offends me is a lack of respect for women and conservative posters on here.
Are you honestly saying that what Amber said about Hilton and her anatomy and appearance were offensive to you or other men on here? I have a hard time believing that, but she did apologize anyway.
I don't expect men here to understand our lines necessarily but Amber, BT and I all thought the behavior here was distasteful. It didn't have to do with words used but lack of respect for wives and women in general. The gentlemanly thing would be to move on. I can't believe people are trying to defend it. As I said, I have my problems with most of the offenders here and I've come to the realization that they are not going to change and neither is this site. I'm going to do my best to just ignore them but I do find it offensive how you seem to love and defend all of them. It is what it is and I'll just do my best to ignore the stuff and stick to the topics when possible.
I could understand this happening to me because I've been pretty relentless in not backing down to these people but from what I've seen of Amber, I can't understand why people are being so disrespectful to her. It's just a different kind of place here and I've come to accept it. It's too bad. I used to really like everyone here (even Leon) except for the drive by trolls. I can't see that happening again now.
So feel free to have all the fun you want with your buddies and carry on with your male bonding. I know I'm not going to change it and I'll try to ignore it but when I see someone else being attacked by them I'll be chiming in because it's not right.
but yes - people are easily offended. It appears liberal sensibilities (especially when feigned ) are the only ones that matter. I care more about conservative's sensibilities myself and will continue to defend them. In this case it's the whole men are from Mars women are from Venus thing but gentlemen would just stop if they know they have offended a non feminist conservative woman (in a sexual way).
I don't think Mr. Shy's comment disrespected anyone but married men and that's always good! Men are pigs! Pigs are so cute! ; )
Well, have we now gone from unintentionally offending our female guests to unintentionally offending our Log Cabin members -- not that there's anything wrong with that. ns
I don't like Paris Hilton, but you can't deny she did a good job with that. It was funny and her energy policy actually wasn't that bad of an idea.
I'd vote for her over Obama.
This is the kind of stuff we need to get young people interested in more than just "hope and change." Props to her for using her celebrity in a good way.
Dumb meets dumber and becomes political news, and from the looks of it people are actually treating this like a real story. Noel did the right thing by noting it without any additional commentary. Watching this video reminded me of the last time I listened to an automated telemarketer calling program leave a message on my voicemail. Two mindless machines exchanging absolutely nothing while someone listened in out of sheer idle boredom.
The scary thing is that some of what she says actually makes sense ... I would much rather vote in whatever election she thinks she is now a part of rather than the real one the rest of us are stuck with though my candidate would be William Shatner. And to give credit where it's due I actually commend Team Obama with coming up with the only possible response to this: "Whatever."
not really, she said she did not know what his energy policy was and then described the one she supported which was practically identical to McCain's. She showed she is still uninformed and that Obama is an idiot.
...has reached an extremely high level at this point.
His has got to be the weakest campaign by a republican since Wendell Willkie's. Then again, I guess it is hard to mount an effective campaign against someone you have very few real differences with.
It is distressing me to no end that so many are going to vote for this man simply out of fear of Barry-O. If McCain gets elected, he is going to make such a hard left turn that it will give him whiplash, and us along with him.
It will be the end of the conservative movement.
We are not going to save this country by being polite to those who are
working tirelessly (and succeeding right handily) at destroying it.
I understand, I swear he does not want my vote. Almost every commercial he puts out is a slap in the face. For me, it is going to be about who they pick as VP. I don't think Obama will be president, not sure he will live to see the day, he has way too many bad connections (Ayers, Rezco, Odinga, CAIRE, New Black Panthers...) and he made the Clintons mad.
Of course, we all know why the politicians love to bash big corporations, particularly "Big Oil," as it has become the fashionable thing to do, even among many republicans who once knew better. This kind of talk is dangerous to this country's future economic viability.
Why is John McCain pandering to the government-schooled, loud car commercial viewers among us?
Exxon-Mobile is the only oil company that still is tied to this country in any significant way. If those idiot politicians are stupid enough to really go after them, they are all going to bolt, as there are fast-growing energy markets elsewhere they can tap, such as India and China.
Given the current hole the dollar is in vs. other currencies (particularly the Euro), and seeing what is happening to many formerly American-owned companies as a result, going after any of them in times such as these would be profoundly stupid.
Neal Boortz was in Europe recently. Ireland is benefitting hugely from our hideous 35% corporate tax rate. Neal related an encounter he had with some Irish businessmen, who told him flat out that they hoped the FairTax never passed into law in this country, as it would have a very negative affect on their country's economy.
Now, I realize McCain has said he wants to lower the corporate tax ratey, but, McCain has said a lot of things, IYKWIM?
We are not going to save this country by being polite to those who are working tirelessly (and succeeding right handily) at destroying it.
What's hilarious to me is that the left is wetting thier pants right now thinking that this is a huge diss to McCain. I see it as just as big a diss on hope dude maybe even bigger. I mean his policy is to inflate your tires. So who's the real airhead (ok ditz her words) Am I projecting my own personal biases into it too much? (serious question)
Of this video & a certain other Paris Hilton video -- the one that was done a while ago in night vision mode!? Once again, "Oval goes oral" when it comes to the Presidency.
JMR
The tax & spend drugwar looks racist in the real world.
Kind of funny but the end was drawn out about 8 seconds too long. It didn't come across as resentful toward McCain but more of a touche' toward McCain and mostly geared toward polishing her own image with light spoofing. But as far as funny toes on a scale of 1-10, to me it was in the 4-5 range at best. And McCain's response to the ad is pretty smart.
(that should read...as far as "funny goes"...I could have edited it but it's worth keeping just for the laugh).
Before political correctness came into being I would have said, "Why should I listen to a skinny rail-a--ed broad with the brains of a dead chicken?" All of the dead chicken advocates would get on my case.
The dumb as a rock high school dropout reads from a script that takes part of Obama's "energy plan" which now includes exactly what she said - limited offshore drilling with environmental oversight and tax incentives (subsidies) for suck ass Detroit to make cars the Japanese can make without my tax money!!! Give me a goddamn break.
We should invest in the technology that can help us recover more from existing oil fields, and speed up the process of recovering oil and gas resources in shale formations in Montana and North Dakota; Texas and Arkansas and in parts of the West and Central Gulf of Mexico. [...]
Over the next five years, we should also lease more of the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska for oil and gas production. And we should also tap more of our substantial natural gas reserves and work with the Canadian government to finally build the Alaska Natural Gas Pipeline, delivering clean natural gas and creating good jobs in the process. [...]
A group of Democrat and Republican Senators sat down and came up with a compromise on energy that includes many of the proposals I've worked on as a Senator and many of the steps I've been calling for on this campaign. It's a plan that would invest in renewable fuels and batteries for fuel-efficient cars, help automakers re-tool, and make a real investment in renewable sources of energy.
Like all compromises, this one has its drawbacks. It includes a limited amount of new offshore drilling, and while I still don't believe that's a particularly meaningful short-term or long-term solution, I am willing to consider it if it's necessary to actually pass a comprehensive plan. [...]
First, we will help states like Michigan build the fuel-efficient cars we need, and we will get one million 150 mile-per-gallon plug-in hybrids on our roads within six years. [...]
I'll provide $4 billion in loans and tax credits to American auto plants and manufacturers so that they can re-tool their factories and build these cars. [...]
In addition, we'll find safer ways to use nuclear power and store nuclear waste. And we'll invest in the technology that will allow us to use more coal, America's most abundant energy source, with the goal of creating five "first-of-a-kind" coal-fired demonstration plants with carbon capture and sequestration."
First, we will help states like Michigan build the fuel-efficient cars we need, and we will get one million 150 mile-per-gallon plug-in hybrids on our roads within six years. [...]
6 yrs? 150mpg? Do they still build cars in Michigan? Seems to me the only car Co that can afford to make cars in the USA are the Forign auto makers.
Yes, it is filled with green rhetoric and subsidies out the ass but my point was that Paris' "plan" is effectively a part of Obama's energy plan and hardly newsworthy in of itself.
Two points here...
One is that even Obama's team had to finally look at reality and realize that the far left was insane and inserted in oil, coal and nuclear to all his green rhetoric, effectively creating a
"plan" that includes anything.
Second people are easily duped by not listening or reading clearly. What does limited mean? It could mean one new rig when we currently have over 4000 in US waters! Strict environmental oversight can mean anything. All current production must meet current environmental regulations.
Never mind Paris Hilton trying to rehabilitate her image as a blonde air head, it was obvious she was repeating lines from a teleprompter and finally got it down on the 20th or 30th take. And I certainly won't be entertaining advice from a coke head, no matter who she parrots.
I was looking at the time stamps on this thread. 22:54 is 10:54 p.m. EST or 7:54 p.m. left coast time. Do you people not go to bed? By the time this thread was posted I was sawing some serious zzzz's.
But now to my conspiracy theory of the week: Paris Hilton is a Hillary Clinton supporter. Now why do you suppose Paris, being a good little Dem, would diss the party's presumptive nominee???? This was in actuality a stealth campaign ad for Hillary Clinton. Yes folks, the August surprise is coming and the Obamanator is going to be in for a very rude surprise on the convention floor as the Dem superdels dump him for Hillary.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Why? Her parents' political donations indicate they're both very much Republicans, and just because she's been wild in the past doesn't mean she's a Democrat. I know a few Republicans who were plenty wild with drugs & sex in the past.
JMR
The tax & spend drugwar looks racist in the real world.
Sarc, it's called individual responsibility, her parents aren't the issue and not relevant. The blonde bimbo publicly proclaimed her support of Hillary and would campaign for her, one does not have to read the tea leaves to devine her political affliation. Type, Paris Hilton Hillary Clinton in your web search tool bar. It's all public knowledge.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
If the Obamanator and Obamatons can't see the obvious, they deserve to go down in a humiliating defeat! I can see Obama's face now with the look of shock and surprise (deer staring in the headlights) at having been outmanuvered by the crafty Clinton machine.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Of course she was reading off cue cards, which makes this a little funnier, I think. When she "gets serious" and reads the energy plan, look away (if you can :)). She actually sounds fairly intelligent at that point in the video. When the teleprompter is taken away from Obama, he sounds like a dropout. The comparison is apt.
That was rather funny and, although nobody here mentioned the link, I thinks it's rather ironic that Paris mentioned the idea of combining Off-Shore Drilling AND Alternative Energy Sources (got to capitalize them as they are the Big Ideas of the candidates, right?) AFTER being described by just about everyone as one of "two blonde bimbo airheads with a combined I.Q. of a box of cereal." So much for being a “bimbo airhead,” as she seems to understand the solutions to our oil problems better than most, if not all, of the MSM airwave-heads combined. Isn't that right, Cafferty?
So, Paris, here's to your clever rebuttal and I hope to see you in Maui soon.
And you point is, what? I didn't endorse her as President. I just pointed out that she's not a dumb as people insinuate.
"I bet she has a tattoo inside her leg that says "Drill here, Drill now"
That type of statement just makes me wonder if you’re jealous of her good looks and success. It has nothing to do with this clip. It is insulting to the extreme and it is used simply to demean and disparage her without addressing the value of her "plan". That's what I would expect of someone who posts at the Democratic Underground or the Daily Kos.
"Who honestly looks to her for political advice?"
Since she advises a rather good energy plan, maybe we should start.
What on earth makes you think it is her plan? It is obvious that this was scripted. I'll bet ten dollars that when she looks into the magazine, she is looking at crib notes. Just because it includes drilling (highly resrictive drilling), does not make it a good plan. Saying it is better than Pelosi et al's is not a ringing endorsement. It is obama's plan and it calls for subsidies. No sale. I don't like welfare for the citizenry or for corporations. When and if alternate energy becomes economically viable, no tax incentives, (damn I hate that term), will be needed to have them produced or consumed. WAKE UP!!!!! It is OUR MONEY!
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Why do you think I put "plan" in quotes? I'm sure a LOT of people have thought of the same thing. I know I have, and for quite a long time. I'm also sure that she was just making a joke here. I mean, like Duh!
Of course besides the other flaws in this plan you have already noted, alternative energy, i.e. solar, wind and geothermal can not, nor ever significantly replace fossil fuel derived energy. PERIOD.
Nuclear power in combination with fossil fuels (oil and natural gas) is the only viable energy plan for the US. Nuclear power is the only proven, large scale and viable (cost effective) alternative energy that exists, but none of the ecofanatics will accept it and by extension neither will the Dems, not now, not ever.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
"Nuclear power in combination with fossil fuels (oil and natural gas) is the only viable energy plan for the US."
I agree to some extent, but I think that solar, wind, wave, and any other energy source should be used to supplement nuclear power and fossil fuels. The best energy plan allows for all sources to be used when and where they are best suited, and for new technology to continually increase efficiency and lower over-all costs of all technologies.
Not at 2 to 4 times the cost, PC alternate energy can never be the answer, oil would have to get up well above $200/barrel. The best energy plan allows the market to decide, that means the government has to butt out, stop meddling and for the producers and consumers to make those decisions instead. We didn't have this problem 30 years ago, it started with idiot Carter and his Dem buddies banning oil and nuclear. We are where we are today because of government meddling in the economy. It was government solutions meddling with the energy business that got us in this mess and it has be government getting out of the energy business to resolve the issue. No more bad ideas from government, let the people decide, they are way smarter than any government idiots today like Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid or Obamanator.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
I believe you missed something and that is the part where I said "when and where they are best suited." That means when and where it is best suited, not when and where it is government mandated. Like you said, let the market decide, but let it decide in a sensible manner. This mean that ALL available sources should be considered and used where appropriate.
There's nothing wrong with using other sources to supplement nuclear and fossil fuels. It makes good sense to diversify energy sources, just like it makes sense to diversify revenue sources. Why limit ourselves to just to or three available sources? That leaves us vulnerable to supply limitations and disruption via lack of available fuel. It’s not that easy to make nuclear fuel, you know. Nor is it easy to mine and process coal, or to extract and process natural gas. What happens if the coal miners, for example, decide to strike? That would severely limit a source of fuel and THAT will greatly increase costs, if only for the short term. A supplemental energy source would eliminate any possible cost increase due to a lack of coal fuel, would it not?
I have been absent for a little while, due to personal reasons, and this is what I come back too? Noel is one of the most upstanding people I know of, why is he under attack over a simple (possibly off color, depending on your viewpoint) remark?
What has happened here?
Amber, I am sorry if you are offended. Some of the remarks here are definately over the line. But I don't follow your "he did it, so I can do it worse and it's justified" mentality. Of all the comments, your's have been consistantly the most offensive.
You somehow feel that disparaging a woman you have no knowledge of other than that which has been provided to you by the same media we all decry here, and in the most lude and vulgar way represented here, is less offensive, or less ignorant, than the posters here who were slyly (or not) commenting on their fantasies about a woman that, like it or not, is widely viewed as beautiful, regardless of her "skankyness"? You should be ashamed of yourself.
And how exactly can you blame Noel for others thoughts and comments? That is not only silly, but unfair.
I do understand your offense to some of the postings, and I would not, myself, have typed those things. But I also would not have typed the things you responded with, and as far as I am concerned, you have displayed even less class than those you had wished to admonish.
I hope in the future you can control yourself, as, from what I have read, you seem like a very nice person when not up in arms. It really seems odd that you attacked the moral stadings of sitemembers by sinking your morals lower than what you perceived theirs to be.
And hello to TM, BT, and the rest of the gang. It has certainly been a while.
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Hello Tim, I'm a newbie here and I agree with. I have total respect for Noel and the NB team and the bloggers here. Amber, I am sorry you were offended by some remarks on this blog about Paris. What I read was really just humorous remarks and weren't meant seriously! Please don't paint all us guys with the same brush. I am married and love my wife with all my heart, but, I have made humorous comments about other women and my wife gets it, I'm just being funny, no offense to her, she does the same (Brad Pitt comes to mind) LOL! We're just being guys and joking around, most of us don't really mean it and are just making fun of the likes of Paris, etc. It was just fun banter, that's all. I, like probably most of the male posters here respect the women in their lives. Humor is humor and not to be taken seriously. I understand you were offended but that was not the intent of the comments. I, as most, are very respectfull of women, ya'll are smarter after all, I admit that. Hey, guys goof off and make jokes, no big deal, you know this. Noel is a good guy and I don't think, after being here for a few weeks, would make disparging (sp?) remarks about women. Most of us guys on NB would defend women come hell or high water! Hey, we love ya'll!! Just my two cents. If I over spoke anyone feel free to tar and feather me!
This reminds me of some talk show my wife was watching years ago, and I made the mistake of walking in the room as it was starting. My wife thought it would be good for me to listen to this expert on relationships between men and women. After the obligatory eye rolls, I sat down like a good husband and watched about ten minutes with my wife. After a huge build-up by the host of the show about the experts credentials, she came on and immediately got down to business. She was asked one question by the host and proceeded to talk for 4-5 minutes straight without coming up for air. The last part of which she announced her earth shattering discovery and said... "Men and Women are different". Afater this "DUH" moment I told the wife I had had enough and left the room. I did not need this Ivy League School graduate to tell me that I am different than my wife, I kinda knew that even before we got married.
Men and women do see things differently, and there's nothing wrong with that. In fact, I like it that way. My post above stating that I wished my wife looked like Paris was a joke. I love my wife more and more with each passing year and I would NEVER consider sleeping with Paris over my wife. It was just a man joke. Not meant to hurt anyone and not meant to insult anyone. I even told my wife what I said and how this thread has turned out. Her only reaction was to slap me in the back of the head and say "MEN!" very emphatically. She then kissed me and said to have fun on NB (She knows I enjoy posting here).
Ladies, I meant no disrespect, it was simply a guy joke thing. Something guys do all the time. We can joke like this and still love our wives and not cheat on them. It's a joke!
No, my friend. Have been retired since '99. Just a lot of life changes that have taken a toll on my time. New marraige, New town, Bought a new home, New (much better) Job. New Life. Just starting to finally settle into a routine. Thank you for asking.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
My point exactly! We are different and have different senses of humor. It isn't mean or offensive, we don't mean it that way, just a funny joke, period. We get it and most of our better halves get it too!
I don't think Amber or any one of us would have been offended by a single comment, it was the way the theme took over on the thread.
I had hoped and guessed that yours was innocuous and your explanation is refreshing. As I said above it's the whole Men are from Mars women are from Venus thing.
The only people that would find evil or ill-intent in your post are life's frustrated weaklings who spend most of their time posturing and feigning offense in an attempt to debilitate others in order to compensate for their own inadequacies.
As to the comments of others who saw your fraternal humor as a license for other comments, that isn't in consideration here either way.
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I was wondering if NBs was
August 5, 2008 - 22:03 ET by bigtimerI was wondering if NBs was going to be putting on Ms. Cute by Half's response to McCain.
The left has got to love it.
I loved the response by McCain's team to this...I think it was Tucker Bounds, it was priceless as far as politics go.
I tell ya' he should of had a campaign shake up long ago,.
Better late than never.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
i want my prez to look like
August 5, 2008 - 22:06 ET by TruthMongeri want my prez to look like her
I want my wife...
August 5, 2008 - 22:21 ET by Clear thinkerI want my wife to look like her.
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now i want what clear's
August 5, 2008 - 22:26 ET by TruthMongernow i want what clear's having:(
TM
August 5, 2008 - 22:30 ET by MrShyYou want Clear's wife?
What's going on in this thread??
:p
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it's a party grab a
August 5, 2008 - 22:32 ET by TruthMongerit's a party
grab a drink, relax, its all good:)
BT
August 5, 2008 - 22:10 ET by Noel SheppardBT,
Do you think it belongs here given the context of the campaign and the media's biased involvement? Or, is this not fitting for NB? I'm asking because I'm not sure myself. ns
if it doesn't belong here -
August 5, 2008 - 22:12 ET by TruthMongerif it doesn't belong here - who really cares?!?!?!
the world will survive
so i applaud your efforts here noel
it is the right thing to do
Noel... Oh heck ya it
August 5, 2008 - 22:16 ET by bigtimerNoel... Oh heck ya it belongs here...
I have seen the msm play this so many times already...they are reveling in it so far anyway as far as I have seen.
I would use caution though if I were them...did you see Tucker's response for the McCain campaign?
I will look for a link if you haven't...
I think it will be used down the road..it will be an ad that will backfire on them if they use this too much.
Just my thoughts.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Here you go....Paris Hilton
August 6, 2008 - 09:02 ET by motherbeltHere you go....Paris Hilton Ad
Bounds said
"It sounds like Paris Hilton supports John McCain's 'all of the above' approach to America’s energy crisis -- including both alternatives and drilling. Paris Hilton might not be as big a celebrity as Barack Obama, but she obviously has a better energy plan."
LOL!
Noel
August 5, 2008 - 22:19 ET by Cool ArrowI was going to bring it up in Open Thread, but I was absolutely sure we'd see a new thread on it.
If we can't laugh along with a good comeback, there's something wrong with us.
You didn't disappoint.
It's a nice move by Paris,
August 5, 2008 - 22:07 ET by balboaIt's a nice move by Paris, not that she came up with the idea, or wrote it, or anything like that. OK, it's a good move by Paris' people. :-)
and all the phallic
August 5, 2008 - 22:11 ET by TruthMongerand all the phallic symbols were a nice touch 2
TM
August 5, 2008 - 22:16 ET by Noel SheppardTM,
Well, she certainly has a better energy policy than Obama, Pelosi, and Reid! I could get behind it...how 'bout you? :-) ns
So...you're saying you could
August 5, 2008 - 22:19 ET by balboaSo...you're saying you could get behind Paris Hilton?
...sicky.
b
August 5, 2008 - 22:20 ET by Noel Sheppardb,
I said I could get behind her energy policy. Get your mind out the gutter, will you? :-) ns
Oh! Her "energy policy"! Is
August 5, 2008 - 22:22 ET by balboaOh! Her "energy policy"! Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
;-)
she can lead me around on a
August 5, 2008 - 22:25 ET by TruthMongershe can lead me around on a dog leash for all i care:)
b
August 5, 2008 - 22:29 ET by Noel Sheppardb,
Hey, I'm a married man. Only Democrats get to lust in their hearts once hitched! Didn't you know that? ns
That's not what Newt said.
August 5, 2008 - 22:31 ET by balboaThat's not what Newt said. :-D
Honestly, I don't think sleeping with Paris would be a good idea, health-wise. Plus, conversation would be at a premium because...I'm not sure she's all that...(what's the word)..."deep."
lust gets around all sides
August 5, 2008 - 22:34 ET by TruthMongerlust gets around all sides of the aisle...
but this is more like admiring...
fine art...
a greek statue...
a...Rembrandt...
Paris proves there is a God all right:)
Yeah, just don't ask the
August 5, 2008 - 22:36 ET by balboaYeah, just don't ask the "greek statue" any questions.
for this we have einsteins
August 5, 2008 - 22:40 ET by TruthMongerfor this we have einsteins thank God
Bal,
August 5, 2008 - 23:37 ET by RESTLESS 1Deleted due to an uncontrollable and quite surprising wave of decency overtaking me temporarily.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Noel,
August 5, 2008 - 22:37 ET by RESTLESS 1Perhaps I missed something in the video, as the kids are sleeping and I had to keep the volume down some, (sound reverberates through this house like you wouldn't believe), but what was so great about the energy policy? Sounded like she said we should tax oil companies to pay for aternative research. Shouldn't that decision be left to the companies, as to where they want to invest their profits? I don't trust govt. to do any meaningful research, and my tax dollars shouldn't go to private companies for research. I am all for companies funding alternative energy research, but not being forced by govt. to do so.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Restless
August 5, 2008 - 22:48 ET by Noel SheppardR,
We're having some fun here, man. You really want to debate this twit's energy policy that she presented in a $500 bathing suit? C'mon.
Okay, let's do it. She says she wants a hybrid of McCain and Obama's proposals:
As I said, I think this is a MUCH better plan than what Obama, Reid, and Pelosi are proposing. You disagree? ns
I'm on board
August 5, 2008 - 22:54 ET by Cool ArrowSounds like a plan to me.
I heard Bill Richardson mention "responsible drilling" this morning, and I thought; "as opposed to what? irresponsible drilling?"
Think maybe those roughnecks don't know how to do that "responsible drilling" stuff?
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Cool,
August 5, 2008 - 23:03 ET by RESTLESS 1"Responsible drilling" is just code words for "highly restricted drilling". Should this ever come to a vote in Congress, we must diligently study the wording, lest nance use HER imagination with it.
Oh, and I know a lot of former roughnecks. I work in the oil and gas industry. Believe me, they are responsible workers who just want to end their shifts with same number of appendages they started with.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Easy there Noel,
August 5, 2008 - 22:54 ET by RESTLESS 1I said I didn't hear the video very well. Tax incentives are entirely different than what I thought I heard, although I don't necessarily care for them either.
That said, I get the humor part of all of this, so I'll let it go. :)
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Hey, don't forget the twits
August 6, 2008 - 00:05 ET by HillbillyKing$1000 shoes. Remember, one needs the perfect shoes to complement the $500 bathing suit one wears while out thinking Barry, Harry and Nancy between travel magazine articles.
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
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That is part of Obama's energy plan!!!
August 7, 2008 - 00:03 ET by PopularTech"limited" offshore drilling, what is "limited" and under the eye of who? Greenpeace or the Sierra Club? Then subsidize the suck ass automakers in Detroit who cannot figure out why the Japanese are kicking their ass? I'll pass.
That is Obama's plan! Didn't anyone here his speech yesterday?
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I didn't realize that was
August 6, 2008 - 07:56 ET by Hero SquadI didn't realize that was the type of offshore drilling she was referencing.
Until I saw she said "limited."
*****
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It's circuitous, Restless
August 5, 2008 - 22:50 ET by Cool ArrowTax the oil companies for alternative research, and they just shut down their in-house alternative studies.
That way, we never come up with an alternative energy source.
As the saying goes "If the government ran it, crime wouldn't pay"
Maybe Paris is smarter than she lets on.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Nope Cool,
August 5, 2008 - 22:55 ET by RESTLESS 1Paris is dumb as a stump, but I am biased. I prefer brunettes. :)
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Restless - Paris's energy policy sounded just like McCain's
August 5, 2008 - 22:55 ET by Dee Bunkactually. She didn't say to tax the oil companies she said give tax incentives for car companies to provide hybrid cars. Her policy was comprehensive (like McCain's) saying drill and give tax incentives for new technologies.
Obama is the only one who is leaving things off the table. Even Paris Hilton can see that you need to work on everything.
Dee,
August 5, 2008 - 22:58 ET by RESTLESS 1I get it. See my response to Noel above. Perhaps in the future, I will get into why I find it offensive for the govt. to offer money back to it's citezens that it shouldn't have taken in the first place, to "encourage" people to do as the govt. wishes.
Okay, okay, I'm done for now. Back to the funnies. :)
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Evening R1... I agree
August 5, 2008 - 23:06 ET by bigtimerEvening R1...
I agree with all of your posts here... you aren't alone.
I'd say more, not worth it anyway... it's been much more amusing reading the posts.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Hi BT,
August 5, 2008 - 23:18 ET by RESTLESS 1And thanks for the post. I guess I'm getting curmudgeonely in my old age. :)
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Restless - I don't mind being serious - I think this is serious
August 5, 2008 - 23:10 ET by Dee BunkReally - even an air-head bimbo can see that we need a comprehensive solution and that is what Republicans and McCain want. Paris unfortunately has media mush brain when it comes to understanding what Republicans are proposing because she doesn't even realize that McCain is advocating a comprehensive plan. It's not her fault really because the media doesn't like that word to get out.
I do agree that lowering the tax rate overall is preferable. Corporate tax rates in the U.S. are too high and it just causes non compliance through loopholes or cheating or just moving businesses out of the U.S. I'd still prefer tax incentives vs not lowering or raising corporate taxes though.
Dee,
August 5, 2008 - 23:21 ET by RESTLESS 1Tax incentives vs. Tax increases. Yeah I agree with you there, but I still find it offensive when the common thief known as our govt. offers me some of my money back if I toe their line.
(I am trying to get my sense of humor back, it is just hard when I hear the word "tax". It makes me crazy. :))
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Wow - Someone who actually watched the video!
August 6, 2008 - 07:45 ET by PopularTechI think I am going crazy as I feel like I am the only one who actually watches what is being said in this video. I agree 100% restless!
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Thanks PT
August 6, 2008 - 18:14 ET by RESTLESS 1After being taken to task for not getting with the program and having some fun on this thread, I thought maybe I was caught in the vaccuum between Paris' ears.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Restless,
August 7, 2008 - 00:38 ET by HillbillyKingyou have to be careful around that vaccuum. It's created by a black hole located near by, one that has a tendency to suck in all kinds of things. :-]
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
it would be my humble
August 5, 2008 - 22:21 ET by TruthMongerit would be my humble honor
Damn!!!! She's even dumber
August 5, 2008 - 22:09 ET by RESTLESS 1Damn!!!! She's even dumber than I thought.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Hilarious
August 5, 2008 - 22:13 ET by Cool ArrowA friend at work showed me this. Pretty funny stuff.
I'm not trying to be racist here, but isn't Paris sort of "skinny"?
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Sorry, but I was focused on the high-heeled shoes
August 5, 2008 - 23:08 ET by mom_roxI thought it was clever except the "I'll see you at the debate, bitches" line. not cool.
I will be impressed if Paris can convince Nancy Pelosi to expand offshore drilling.
A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw, 1944
mom
August 5, 2008 - 23:12 ET by Noel Sheppardmom,
Yes, but you raise a good point: "I will be impressed if Paris can convince Nancy Pelosi to expand offshore drilling."
Is it possible she speaks for her generation concerning this? The recent Zogby numbers showed a huge decline in Obama's support from 18-29 year olds. Maybe drilling is an issue for these folks. Maybe 18-29 year olds, out on their own and supporting themselves, are the most impacted by high energy prices. Maybe these folks want drilling for this reason, and Paris hit on this.
Just saying. ns
California dreaming or California drilling
August 6, 2008 - 00:11 ET by mom_roxI wasn't aware of the Zogby numbers. Very interesting. Are there any polls on offshore/ANWR drilling separated by age groups?
Hard to say the basis for Paris' comments - her parents (who are/were supporting McCain - perhaps, pragmatists?) or reality (the impact of high CA gasoline- though it doesn't affect her personally, but she might see the impact on others).
Noel, you raise an interesting theory. Her generation was not around during the Santa Barbara spill, and they were 10 years old or younger during the Exxon Valdez spill. By the same token, her generation was not around during the Three-Mile island release and may have a favorable view of nuclear energy.
Like I said, I think it was a clever "I'm not a ditz ALL of the time" reply. Plus, I'll be doubly impressed if she can solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw, 1944
NS
August 6, 2008 - 00:17 ET by BlondeInteresting.
But I'd no more ask Paris Hilton for an opinion on what her age group is thinking than ask my cat about Global Warming.
Paris Hilton is so atypical...how could she possibly know anything about her "peer group"?
One must give her some credit though...she plays the idiot perfectly, while parlaying her name into a bona fide fortune which she DIDN'T inherit. She's crazy like a fox, I think.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Blonde
August 6, 2008 - 00:36 ET by candanceI slightly disagree. As you alluded to in your post, she's not as stupid as she lets on and her parents are involved enough to be McCain supporters. She might not have to worry about gas money, but even she can see how fretful everyone is over energy.
I can pretty guarantee that after this video has been out for a while, more and more teens/young adults will be echoing this - and if it paves the way for domestic drilling who am I to complain.
I'm with Noel - I don't think she just spouted a script without at least a basic understanding of what it meant. She obviously had someone write it down for her, but she did manage to appear like she really believed and understood, which is more than we got from Nancy Pelosi on Sunday.
I say give the girl the benefit of the doubt. At least she isn't using her fame to peddle some dumb idea like "use it or lose it."
Btw, Candance....
August 6, 2008 - 00:45 ET by MrShySpeaking of "use it or lose it"....
Did you "Rock the Vote" back in the '90's? I know I did. I rocked it for Clinton, TWICE!
(Hmm, will that admission get me banned from here? :p)
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For REAL Change
um Shy dear
August 6, 2008 - 00:48 ET by candancePlease don't use the phrase "rocked it for Clinton" ever again. Some of us still have to sleep tonight and don't appreciate nightmares.
sorry candance
August 6, 2008 - 00:53 ET by MrShyI voted for him, I meant.
Will that also give some NB'ers nightmares? I can understand... might have one myself.
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Awe heck MrS... We've alredy
August 6, 2008 - 00:56 ET by bigtimerAwe heck MrS...
We've alredy been through that nightmare...
A few more on the horizon though....
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
18-29 year olds
August 6, 2008 - 09:19 ET by needle"The recent Zogby numbers showed a huge decline in Obama's
support from 18-29 year olds. Maybe drilling is an issue for these folks. Maybe
18-29 year olds, out on their own and supporting themselves, are the most
impacted by high energy prices."
Or maybe…could it possibly be?...they are growing up?
There is even a thin – I did not say “skinny” – glimmer of maturity coming from Paris (Hilton, that is).
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
isn't Paris sort of "skinny"?
August 6, 2008 - 09:27 ET by amberThank You! I do not understand what guys see in her. Maybe it is her total lack of morals and she would do it anyway, anytime, anyhow with anyone. However, her nose is the size of Rhode Island and her boobs are the size of a marble, her pussy is probably as loose as a $5 whore and her brain jiggles areound loosly in her head. She has no respect for anyone who is hard working and has principles. Her family and hotel chain disrespects the military at every turn. Meanwhile, you are married to someone who has said she will be faithful to you, puts up with your disgusting behaviors, raises your children with love, cleans your home and clothes and I don't blame her if after all of her hard work and devotion she has zero respect for you because you drool over a disrespectul, ugly, whore. Good job men! (cool, that was not directed at you, you men above know who I am referring to, "good " Christian ones too! shame on you!)
Amber, yes she is skinny
August 6, 2008 - 09:38 ET by bassndudeAmber, yes she is skinny and all the rest. I think most of the attraction is in her money. Just think of that brand new Ranger Z in the 5 car garage! :-)
Im not easy or cheap!
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
I understand drooling over
August 6, 2008 - 09:45 ET by amberI understand drooling over her money and her cars.
Not money and cars, money
August 6, 2008 - 09:47 ET by bassndudeNot money and cars, money and bass boats:-)
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Every winter I have a bout
August 6, 2008 - 11:06 ET by amberEvery winter I have a bout 10 of them, Lunds mostly, in my quonset. Funny, but 2 of them have not left the property in 5 years. I don't understand why people spend that much money and never use it. (we rent space to them)
Well thank goodness that
August 6, 2008 - 09:48 ET by balboaWell thank goodness that wasn't crass...
never said it wasn't
August 6, 2008 - 11:13 ET by ambernever said it wasn't and I was not trying to be funny.
I personally think Paris is
August 6, 2008 - 12:53 ET by Dan The Man 2I personally think Paris is ugly to teh bone in looks and morals. I do like meat on my women.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Truth, I want my President to look like
August 5, 2008 - 22:18 ET by jefflebowskiMitt Romney.
Jeff Lebowski
www.angrywhitedude.c...
if paris opts out, i'll
August 5, 2008 - 22:23 ET by TruthMongerif paris opts out, i'll join you
I'm with ya Truth
August 5, 2008 - 22:25 ET by Cool ArrowOOGA-CHAKKA
But she is "skinny"
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
is that code?!?!?
August 5, 2008 - 22:35 ET by TruthMongeris that code?!?!?
OOGA-CHAKKA
August 5, 2008 - 22:38 ET by Cool ArrowYes, Truthie, please don't tell Bob Herbert
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Scared, very scared....
August 5, 2008 - 22:32 ET by ScrapironDemocrats have a poor reputation already so they should be scared, very scared when Paris and the sluts start campaigning for them. She might 'upgrade' their slimey reputation and cost them millions of votes.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
Did you interpret this as an
August 5, 2008 - 22:35 ET by balboaDid you interpret this as an endorsement of Obama?
bal
August 5, 2008 - 22:43 ET by Cool ArrowI just took it as a "back at ya" from Paris and found it plenty funny.
But it's a good question. Would Paris endorse a candidate (Obama) who has already made her the butt of one of his jokes?
Maybe.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
boa... Well the msm has
August 5, 2008 - 22:43 ET by bigtimerboa...
Well the msm has so far from what I have seen this afternoon and early evening...and they usually walk lock-step with the leftist party.
You may want to ask them.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Scrap... Which would be
August 5, 2008 - 22:40 ET by bigtimerScrap...
Which would be priceless.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Paris Hilton
August 5, 2008 - 22:37 ET by MrShyHmm, Paris read that the best place for a tan is Maui.
Hmmm....
Maui.
Paris.
Off shore drilling.
(sorry.... but you can't blame me for that one, can you? :p)
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Nope, can't say that I blame ya.
August 6, 2008 - 00:16 ET by HillbillyKingGiven that I'm tryin to figure out if Rick Solomon is gonna be the head of her Department of the Interior. You know she has quite the list of men with experience in that position to choose from. :-}
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
MSM - Real story - Britney and McCain
August 5, 2008 - 22:56 ET by JayTeeLast Friday, My place of work has a flat Screen in the Coffee Room.
(This is a real MSM story, not made up)
Corp..shall remain nameless, but they have their TV's in the break rooms set to Headline News...no other Options...and I gotta make a New Pot of coffee, and Headline news is covering the latest Britney Spears story, child custody, her father, the court process, ad nauseum for about 5 Solid minutes. Just showing Pics and expounding on Britney Spears....So I'm thinking, Gee this is exactly what McCain was talking about with Obamarama, and wouldn't it be Great if this was followed by the MSM talking about McCain's new Ad...
WELL, I just about Dropped the POT of Coffee...becasue they DID IT...they followed this Britney thing with a story on McCain's ad that is comparing Obama to Britney, etc..etc......
I'm thinking GEE, you guys just justified/supported McCain's whole premise with the Britney story and your fawning over her problems and life and all kinds of who cares details....I just could NOT believe that the MSM just doesn't "Get IT"....they must not watch their own channels.
It was un-believable ignorance of the Bias'd coverage by MSM of POP tarts and the equivalent Obama like worship...ROFL...
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised
lmao Noel
August 5, 2008 - 22:58 ET by shawn228That was great. It might almost be enough to bring Sports Politics back
Real life video games are cool
shawn
August 5, 2008 - 23:04 ET by Noel Sheppardshawn,
Glad you liked it. This is a good spoof on her part. She's making fun of both candidates as well as herself while actually offering a better solution to the energy crisis than the entire Democrat party.
Whoever came up with this for her did a nice job. It's something people on both sides of the aisle should be able to laugh at if they have ANY sense of humor. ns
Noel... well excuse me
August 5, 2008 - 23:15 ET by bigtimerNoel... well excuse me ...
I know I am in the minority here...and I am a lot of times.
I didn't find it humorous one iota.
I have a great sense of humor. Just ask me.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
BT
August 5, 2008 - 23:28 ET by Noel SheppardBT,
Wait a minute: didn't I ask for your opinion? Didn't you say this belonged here? I re-read your initial post, and I didn't get where you were angry about this. ns
Good golly Noel...You
August 5, 2008 - 23:46 ET by bigtimerGood golly Noel...
You asked me if I thought it belonged here...I said it did.
You didn't ask me if I thought it was funny.... I don't.
I also am not angry whatsoever.
I am sorry if I spoke how I felt about it being funny..I think whatever comes out of that woman's mouth is trash...with plenty of money behind her.
I think a lot of young women look up to the likes of this bimbo via the msm...
I think this was an intentional slam...her mother was furious about the McCain ad...I think she had great writers, the best money can buy.
I think she is a useless bimbo...guess she is entertaining to some.
I find nothing funny about being self-dependent on our own oil in this country.
I know the Bush administration had put tons of money already in alternative energies...I am sick of hearing all that already.
I am sorry if I find nothing funny.
I just do not.
That's just me.
Btw..it is one of the few times we have disagreed about humor.
...guess we just do tonight ;-)
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Noel (and BT)
August 5, 2008 - 23:55 ET by MrShyThis is outrageous, Noel. One of our own disagreeing?
Are you going to have BT's membership cancelled? or at least suspended?
(YES, THIS IS ALL A JOKE.... which BT might also find not very funny :p)
Btw, it was sort of funny, but I also sort of agree with BT regarding the whole culture of caring about this bimbo one iota. It's how low we've sunk in pop culture, I think.... i.e., her, the other bimbo's, reality TV, vacuous celeb adoration, etc..
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For REAL Change
Shy
August 6, 2008 - 00:07 ET by Cool ArrowIt's an acquired taste. The humor, that is.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
It's how low we've sunk in
August 6, 2008 - 00:23 ET by bigtimerIt's how low we've sunk in pop culture, I think.... i.e., her, the other bimbo's, reality TV, vacuous celeb adoration, etc..
Which was McCain's whole point in using her in the ad about why the adoration for Obama...especially the msm too.
If anybody goes and rereads my posts from the beginning, I never implied that I thought this was funny... I had seen this numerous times already on the msm...the left loved glorifying in it... I was speaking politically.
I'm not a guy, I don't think she's funny one bit, I don't think she is pretty one bit, and I sure as hell don't think she is a sexy woman in any way...camera angles may work for the horny fella's out there...but she is a dime a dozen...except she has money...she doesn't need it to pay to be a slut...she does it for free.
...but heck...she's funny.
Sorry...my funny-bone just isn't working tonight.
Btw MrS...Noel and I have had disagreements before...I'm still here...I think...lol.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
So I take it you are voting
August 6, 2008 - 08:10 ET by Hero SquadSo I take it you are voting "Die"?
I give it a "Funny." Probably the funniest thing she's ever done (intentionally). Not that the bar was very high on that one, but she obviously has a sense of humor about herself.
I thought it was surprisingly sharp satire. She talks for the first half like we expect her to... then she suddenly has this lucid moment where she's describing details of a viable energy policy. Sure, she probably has no idea what she's saying, but it's hilarious hearing those big words come out of her mouth.
Sort of reminds me of those moments in SpongeBob Squarepants where Patrick Star suddenly shirks his overwhelming dimness to make astute observations.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
HS.... So I take it you
August 6, 2008 - 12:14 ET by bigtimerHS....
So I take it you are voting "Die"?
What in the heck is that supposed to mean?
Sorry I am missing your point here.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
quick explanation
August 6, 2008 - 12:19 ET by candanceThe website that produced Paris' video is called "Funny or Die." So he's making a pun that if they didn't succeed at being funny then "die" is the only alternative.
Thanks can... Now I am
August 6, 2008 - 12:21 ET by bigtimerThanks can...
Now I am laughing.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Viewers are given an
August 7, 2008 - 09:54 ET by Hero SquadViewers are given an opportunity to vote "funny" or "die" on the videos at the site. I'm not sure exactly what happens, but they may remove videos that are voted to "die."
Sorry I didn't make my reference clearer.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
The enchanted Republican Forest
August 5, 2008 - 23:31 ET by shawn228Thank you posting that, and your right some one with ANY sense of humor would have liked it
Have you ever seen this video of McCain girl? I can't decide if it is for or against McCain. I found the final sentence a little offensive, but I thought it was hilarious.
Real life video games are cool
I agree, I thought it was
August 6, 2008 - 09:33 ET by amberI agree, I thought it was funny, although a bit uninformed. What I do not find funny is the crass behavior some of the posters are displaying.
Good morning amber
August 6, 2008 - 10:14 ET by shawn228"her pussy is probably as loose as a $5 whore and her brain jiggles areound loosly in her head."
Ouch. Never been a big fan of Paris Hilton, but I actually thought she looked quite nice in this vide. I personally am not sure about the looseness part :-)
Real life video games are cool
just sick of the guys here
August 6, 2008 - 11:01 ET by amberjust sick of the guys here who like to post about T&A.
I think we're all just
August 6, 2008 - 11:29 ET by balboaI think we're all just making fun of Paris, nothing she hasn't done to herself. From a "leaked" sex video to practically anything else she's done. Perhaps we stepped over a line, but it's not a line Paris drew.
amber and shawn
August 6, 2008 - 10:53 ET by Noel SheppardHey,
There are ladies present. Is this appropriate? ns
Are you serious? You
August 6, 2008 - 10:59 ET by amberAre you serious? You (wink wink) get behind her "energy policy" in response to a couple of guys who want to replace her with their wives. Please. I'll be a lady if you be a gentleman.
Those comments had nothing to do with her video. I thought we were to stick with the topic. Frankly I am sick of seeing guys on here talking about women in that manner. It reflects poorly on themselves and their commitment to their wives. It is disgusting.
Amber
August 6, 2008 - 12:07 ET by Noel SheppardAmber,
Excuse me, but I made a statement with a humorous double entendre. You equate that to specifically referring to genitalia in what some might consider a disparaging fashion? ns
it's all good Noel
August 6, 2008 - 12:13 ET by candanceGuys look at a pretty girl in a bikini, there's bound to be some joking about her looks. You wouldn't be a hetero man if you didn't.
But what does kind of bother me is the "her skanky tail is looser than a whore's." IMO those kind of personal insults should not become conservies.
I disagree, I know plenty
August 6, 2008 - 12:46 ET by amberI disagree, I know plenty of men who never refer to women as though they are a rag doll solely designed to be a vessel for their sperm.
So, you don't mind when men craftily say they want to F... a total stranger, probably 20+ years their junior? I understand why you would take offense to my previous comment, it was visually appauling.
I will also add that it is
August 6, 2008 - 12:55 ET by amberI will also add that it is not the object of the joke that makes it OK, it is the person who says it. "Getting behind" Ann Coulter would be terribly disrespectful to say, but because Paris acts the whore it is ok to say that about her? I disagree. When I read that, I do not see clever wit, I see the one saying it actually wants to replace their wife with her, I see the one saying it actually enjoying giving it to her from behind. It is not a joke to me. It is what is wrong with many marrigaes today. People do not respect or honor their spouses. There is truth behind most jokes. Would you want the man you love to joke about replacing you with Paris Hilton or giving it to her from behind? Seriously. It really saddens me. It is wrong.
For the record, I am not a fat, ugly woman.
Noel, I do not find that
August 6, 2008 - 12:43 ET by amberNoel, I do not find that humerous at all. I think it is disrespectful. As a woman and a wife, to hear married men refer to other women in a sexual fashion is a betrayal to your spouse. We are to honor and respect and love our wives and husbands, speaking or writing in that manner does the exact opposite.
My comment above was very harsh towards Ms. Hilton and I appologize to her. I am sorry if she was hurt by that. My anger is not directed towards her it is directed towards the hosts of men who think it is fine to disrespect women and their wives.
Amber
August 6, 2008 - 13:13 ET by Noel SheppardAmber,
So, when comedians like Henny Youngman and Rodney Dangerfield make jokes about their wives, they're being disrespectful? Or when a comedienne like Brett Butler makes a joke about her husband, that's disrespectful, too? ns
Noel
August 6, 2008 - 13:49 ET by amberYes.
I don't like any of the comedians mentioned either. Probably for that reason.
Amber
August 6, 2008 - 14:01 ET by Noel SheppardAmber,
Well, fair enough. However, for decades, most comedy has had a sexual element to it. Even the Marx Brothers going back to the '20s used a lot of double entendre. Groucho was always putting down Margaret Dumont, and always had a younger gal he was chasing in every film. So, I'm not sure where you draw the line. Mae West and WC Fields are other examples. ns
Noel
August 6, 2008 - 14:07 ET by amberNoel, I do not have a problem with sexual comedy or comedy about marriage. I can joke with the best of them (but I would never disrespect my husband or make him the object of a joke, never). What was posted above was not sexual comedy, it was sexual fantasy at the expense of women and wives.
Amber
August 6, 2008 - 14:31 ET by Noel SheppardAmber,
Well, I'm not sure how my double entendre concerning getting behind Paris's energy policy either involves or defames my wife. Aren't you jumping to some conclusions about the relationship that I or any of the other male posters have with our wives? Maybe they'd think this was all harmless good fun as well. After all, it is just a message board. We're not at church or in a synogogue. ns
Oooookay...tune in next
August 6, 2008 - 13:14 ET by balboaOooookay...tune in next time for another exciting adventure of...
"MOUNTAIN...Out of a Molehill!"
Amber -I'm sorry that you had to put up with this
August 6, 2008 - 13:44 ET by Dee BunkI thought about saying something also but because all but one (not including Noel) of the people involved were people I've had problems with, I chose to remain silent and try and direct the subject to a more appropriate angle because I knew if I said something it would be some long drawn out fight. I'm surprised at what is happening with you. The one person I'm thinking of hasn't tried to defend the behavior yet and I'm sure would apologize to you or I or any other female who said they were offended.
In the past when I've found sexual innuendo offensive the conservatives here have always been respectful about it and just said sorry and stopped. Liberals never have. It seems too many people want to be like liberals here any more and find them to be something to emulate. It never used to be like that.
I thought Noels initial comment was fine (under the line) but the comments to follow were not. We all have different lines and it's too bad that people don't have enough respect to just stop and apologize. We all know how men can be and I'd never think less of any of them if they stopped and/or apologized. It's so disappointing how they dig in and try to turn us into some sort of prudes. We can't change what is said here, we can only change who we have respect for.
Thank you Dee. I really
August 6, 2008 - 13:51 ET by amberThank you Dee. I really appreciate it.
Well, I felt pretty alone
August 6, 2008 - 13:53 ET by bigtimerWell, I felt pretty alone last night too.
If you read my last semi-long post above I mentioned horny men ect. I was mainly attemting to stay to the politics of this ad last night.
I'm no prude either, far from that... nor am I fat or ugly either amber as I saw you post earlier...I was going to comment then but I am in the middle of watering and had forgot about it til just now.
...anyway amber, you aren't alone.
Just wanted you to know.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Thanks bigtimer. I think
August 6, 2008 - 13:59 ET by amberThanks bigtimer. I think people sometimes forget that this is not a men's club. There are women here too and they are not making their comments in private.
Sorry you were alone last night. I did not see the thread but from what I gather, I would be in agreement with you.
Hi BT - I'm sorry for you last night also
August 6, 2008 - 14:14 ET by Dee Bunkit was late and I was going to bed and just didn't want to get involved because, as I said, there are so many on this thread who don't like me - it's become a sort of club that I really just want no part of anymore. Rude crude and totally unattractive is how they are perceived by me.
I'm far from a prude either and don't mind some harmless sexual banter here and there. It's a respect type of thing that is individual for everyone and I really can't believe how this site has changed because the regulars used to all be very gentlemanly.
There has definitely been way to much liberal influence here and unfortunately I think it's here to stay. They are just so "cool" you know. Some people are very influenced by "cool".
Dee
August 6, 2008 - 13:57 ET by Noel SheppardDee,
However, Amber's remarks were actually the worst. ns
Still can't say you were
August 6, 2008 - 14:04 ET by amberStill can't say you were wrong? My comments were only illustrating the kind of women you wanted to bang from behind and other posters wanted to trade their wives for. Yes, my comment was visually appauling (go ahead and delete it the point was made), but you are the one who put the video up and ENCOURAGED the raunchy behavior. It isyour thread to control and you did a very poor job of that.
Amber
August 6, 2008 - 14:34 ET by Noel SheppardAmber,
I encouraged behavior? Honestly, the raunchiest post was yours. I encouraged that? ns
I thought you were smarter
August 6, 2008 - 14:51 ET by amberI thought you were smarter than that. Go ahead, tell you wife you thought it was funny to say you wanted to bang Paris from behind. Ha ha. Maybe she thinks it is harmless, I do not. Maybe you should tell the other women working there, or maybe you should tell some of the women reporters you get to talk to, I be they will see the humor too. Sorry you think it isOK to talk about women like they are objects for your ejactualtions. (See I can do double entendre too)
You don't get it, actually I think you do but you can't say you are wrong, so I am done with this. I made my point.
Noel - I'm not offended by words
August 6, 2008 - 14:45 ET by Dee BunkI know a lot of people here like to get into that - words are just words to me and the types of words people use don't offend me.
What offends me is a lack of respect for women and conservative posters on here.
Are you honestly saying that what Amber said about Hilton and her anatomy and appearance were offensive to you or other men on here? I have a hard time believing that, but she did apologize anyway.
I don't expect men here to understand our lines necessarily but Amber, BT and I all thought the behavior here was distasteful. It didn't have to do with words used but lack of respect for wives and women in general. The gentlemanly thing would be to move on. I can't believe people are trying to defend it. As I said, I have my problems with most of the offenders here and I've come to the realization that they are not going to change and neither is this site. I'm going to do my best to just ignore them but I do find it offensive how you seem to love and defend all of them. It is what it is and I'll just do my best to ignore the stuff and stick to the topics when possible.
I could understand this happening to me because I've been pretty relentless in not backing down to these people but from what I've seen of Amber, I can't understand why people are being so disrespectful to her. It's just a different kind of place here and I've come to accept it. It's too bad. I used to really like everyone here (even Leon) except for the drive by trolls. I can't see that happening again now.
So feel free to have all the fun you want with your buddies and carry on with your male bonding. I know I'm not going to change it and I'll try to ignore it but when I see someone else being attacked by them I'll be chiming in because it's not right.
Dee et al
August 6, 2008 - 14:50 ET by Noel SheppardDee et al,
This has gone way too far. I apologize to anyone that was offended by what transpired here. Good afternoon. ns
Ladies, Gentlemen, & Noel
August 6, 2008 - 21:03 ET by MrShyI'm a guy, and I'm single. Where do I fall in all of this? I think I left one crude-ish joke above, but again, I have no wife to offend. :p
Okay, I should probably butt out.
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For REAL Change
LOL
August 6, 2008 - 21:07 ET by Timothy HLOL, all have a say, my friend. I think this whole issue was taken way to far. Sometimes I think people are way too sensative.
- Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints -
Timothy
August 6, 2008 - 21:15 ET by MrShyHmm..... "people" ?
;)
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MrS
August 6, 2008 - 21:17 ET by Timothy HExactly........lol
;-)
- Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints -
Tim and Mr Shy - we are done with this
August 6, 2008 - 21:28 ET by Dee Bunkbut yes - people are easily offended. It appears liberal sensibilities (especially when feigned ) are the only ones that matter. I care more about conservative's sensibilities myself and will continue to defend them. In this case it's the whole men are from Mars women are from Venus thing but gentlemen would just stop if they know they have offended a non feminist conservative woman (in a sexual way).
I don't think Mr. Shy's comment disrespected anyone but married men and that's always good! Men are pigs! Pigs are so cute! ; )
DB....
August 6, 2008 - 21:34 ET by Timothy H"Men are pigs! Pigs are so Cute!"
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you for the laugh, Dee.....
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Timothy - We really do love most men
August 6, 2008 - 21:54 ET by Dee Bunkand the more manly the better. We are not feminists here you know ; )
Especially when you put
August 6, 2008 - 21:34 ET by bigtimerEspecially when you put lipstick on them.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
You mean bt,
August 7, 2008 - 00:52 ET by HillbillyKinglike this?
http://politicalhumo...
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
wondered if you would notice.
August 6, 2008 - 21:34 ET by general companyPigs are so cute! ; )
Thank you, wondered if you would notice.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
I think you and I are in the
August 6, 2008 - 21:09 ET by balboaI think you and I are in the same boat, Mr. Shy.
bal
August 6, 2008 - 21:14 ET by MrShyYou're a guy, too?
:p
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For REAL Change
Yup...and I dared dabble in
August 6, 2008 - 21:17 ET by balboaYup...and I dared dabble in double entendres. (Couldn't pass up the alliteration opportunity.)
MrS
August 6, 2008 - 21:11 ET by Noel SheppardMrS,
Well, do you have an energy policy I could get behind?
Ooops. ns
NS
August 6, 2008 - 21:13 ET by MrShyYes, but you'd have to stay on top of that energy policy.
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For REAL Change
MrS
August 6, 2008 - 21:23 ET by Noel SheppardMrS,
Well, have we now gone from unintentionally offending our female guests to unintentionally offending our Log Cabin members -- not that there's anything wrong with that. ns
Ohhhh, now you've done it.
August 6, 2008 - 21:18 ET by balboaOhhhh, now you've done it.
NS
August 6, 2008 - 21:21 ET by Timothy HA little salt? hmmm...........lol
- Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints -
TH
August 6, 2008 - 21:24 ET by Noel SheppardTH,
Well, you started it! :-) ns
NS
August 6, 2008 - 21:26 ET by Timothy HTouche, lol
- Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints -
Noel
August 7, 2008 - 10:05 ET by shawn228"There are ladies present. Is this appropriate? ns"
Noel, my apologies. Your absolutely right. I take full responsiblity for my post.
Real life video games are cool
what's that glow emanating
August 5, 2008 - 23:17 ET by Insane Chipmunkwhat's that glow emanating out from her bikini bottom about halfway through?
can we get some energy from that?
OMG
August 5, 2008 - 23:29 ET by candanceI don't like Paris Hilton, but you can't deny she did a good job with that. It was funny and her energy policy actually wasn't that bad of an idea.
I'd vote for her over Obama.
This is the kind of stuff we need to get young people interested in more than just "hope and change." Props to her for using her celebrity in a good way.
Perfect
August 5, 2008 - 23:39 ET by JWFThis was wicked, vicious, funny, and made her seem smart.
Politicians will think twice about putting her in a campaign commercial from now on.
Not a fan of teh Paris, this almost made me give her a second look.
I wonder who wrote this dialouge
August 6, 2008 - 00:12 ET by bigpapaFor this worthless herpes infested tramp?????
you can put a dress on a pig.... but all you have is a pig with dress on it...
A pig is a pig is a pig...
NOBAMA 08 !!!
agreed
August 6, 2008 - 09:35 ET by amberagreed
So do I. "America isn't
August 6, 2008 - 13:10 ET by bigtimerSo do I.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
The Blind Shall Lead The Blind
August 6, 2008 - 00:59 ET by SquonkamaticDumb meets dumber and becomes political news, and from the looks of it people are actually treating this like a real story. Noel did the right thing by noting it without any additional commentary. Watching this video reminded me of the last time I listened to an automated telemarketer calling program leave a message on my voicemail. Two mindless machines exchanging absolutely nothing while someone listened in out of sheer idle boredom.
The scary thing is that some of what she says actually makes sense ... I would much rather vote in whatever election she thinks she is now a part of rather than the real one the rest of us are stuck with though my candidate would be William Shatner. And to give credit where it's due I actually commend Team Obama with coming up with the only possible response to this: "Whatever."
Wow! Paris Hilton 5000, Juan McClame (-) a gazillion!
August 6, 2008 - 01:58 ET by R D HelmI have to admit, even though I am not a Paris Hilton fan, she zinged ol' Juan pretty good here. :-)
Bet Obama waxes his a$$ when the time comes.
We are not going to save this country by being polite to those who are
working tirelessly (and succeeding right handily) at destroying it.
she zinged ol' Juan
August 6, 2008 - 09:38 ET by ambernot really, she said she did not know what his energy policy was and then described the one she supported which was practically identical to McCain's. She showed she is still uninformed and that Obama is an idiot.
I know, amber. Its just that my derision for McCain...
August 6, 2008 - 10:08 ET by R D Helm...has reached an extremely high level at this point.
His has got to be the weakest campaign by a republican since Wendell Willkie's. Then again, I guess it is hard to mount an effective campaign against someone you have very few real differences with.
It is distressing me to no end that so many are going to vote for this man simply out of fear of Barry-O. If McCain gets elected, he is going to make such a hard left turn that it will give him whiplash, and us along with him.
It will be the end of the conservative movement.
We are not going to save this country by being polite to those who are
working tirelessly (and succeeding right handily) at destroying it.
I understand, I swear he
August 6, 2008 - 11:11 ET by amberI understand, I swear he does not want my vote. Almost every commercial he puts out is a slap in the face. For me, it is going to be about who they pick as VP. I don't think Obama will be president, not sure he will live to see the day, he has way too many bad connections (Ayers, Rezco, Odinga, CAIRE, New Black Panthers...) and he made the Clintons mad.
yeah amber
August 6, 2008 - 11:18 ET by candanceMcCain just got done running an ad in which he promised to "take on Big Oil" just like he took on Big Tobacco in the 90s.
Yeah...taxing and harrassing Exxon until they end up in Europe exactly like Phillip Morris...great solution there.
McCain knows he has the Republican vote and is blatantly courting indpependents.
candance, I saw that ad. John McCain is an idiot.
August 6, 2008 - 21:52 ET by R D HelmOf course, we all know why the politicians love to bash big corporations, particularly "Big Oil," as it has become the fashionable thing to do, even among many republicans who once knew better. This kind of talk is dangerous to this country's future economic viability.
Why is John McCain pandering to the government-schooled, loud car commercial viewers among us?
Exxon-Mobile is the only oil company that still is tied to this country in any significant way. If those idiot politicians are stupid enough to really go after them, they are all going to bolt, as there are fast-growing energy markets elsewhere they can tap, such as India and China.
Given the current hole the dollar is in vs. other currencies (particularly the Euro), and seeing what is happening to many formerly American-owned companies as a result, going after any of them in times such as these would be profoundly stupid.
Neal Boortz was in Europe recently. Ireland is benefitting hugely from our hideous 35% corporate tax rate. Neal related an encounter he had with some Irish businessmen, who told him flat out that they hoped the FairTax never passed into law in this country, as it would have a very negative affect on their country's economy.
Now, I realize McCain has said he wants to lower the corporate tax ratey, but, McCain has said a lot of things, IYKWIM?
We are not going to save this country by being polite to those who are working tirelessly (and succeeding right handily) at destroying it.
*starts slow clap*
August 6, 2008 - 21:52 ET by candanceThank you for saying that Dave.
amber,
August 6, 2008 - 21:20 ET by R D Helm...and he made the Clintons mad.
Funny, as that, in a way, might just be our only hope.
We are not going to save this country by being polite to those who are
working tirelessly (and succeeding right handily) at destroying it.
It's Hilarious
August 6, 2008 - 03:26 ET by theworminatorWhat's hilarious to me is that the left is wetting thier pants right now thinking that this is a huge diss to McCain. I see it as just as big a diss on hope dude maybe even bigger. I mean his policy is to inflate your tires. So who's the real airhead (ok ditz her words) Am I projecting my own personal biases into it too much? (serious question)
I'm wondering how soon we'll see a collage
August 6, 2008 - 05:13 ET by sarcasmoOf this video & a certain other Paris Hilton video -- the one that was done a while ago in night vision mode!? Once again, "Oval goes oral" when it comes to the Presidency.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Paris has done other videos?
August 6, 2008 - 08:36 ET by UphillI'll have to look into that. :-)
Kind of funny
August 6, 2008 - 07:12 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasKind of funny but the end was drawn out about 8 seconds too long. It didn't come across as resentful toward McCain but more of a touche' toward McCain and mostly geared toward polishing her own image with light spoofing. But as far as funny toes on a scale of 1-10, to me it was in the 4-5 range at best. And McCain's response to the ad is pretty smart.
(that should read...as far as "funny goes"...I could have edited it but it's worth keeping just for the laugh).
The answer to terrorism IS war. Next Please!
Paris
August 6, 2008 - 07:55 ET by cocodrieBefore political correctness came into being I would have said, "Why should I listen to a skinny rail-a--ed broad with the brains of a dead chicken?" All of the dead chicken advocates would get on my case.
Paris Hilton is not funny and this video is stupid.
August 6, 2008 - 07:59 ET by PopularTechThe dumb as a rock high school dropout reads from a script that takes part of Obama's "energy plan" which now includes exactly what she said - limited offshore drilling with environmental oversight and tax incentives (subsidies) for suck ass Detroit to make cars the Japanese can make without my tax money!!! Give me a goddamn break.
Companies are already making electric cars! Something Thomas Edison did 100 years ago. Exciting! One problem - the new car costs $106,000 and takes 32 hours to charge!
And incase anyone missed it (apparently everyone did!) Obama is also now talking about shale oil too. I am going crazy?
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
Obama agrees to drilling, shale oil, coal and nuclear
August 6, 2008 - 08:23 ET by PopularTechApparently everyone missed this! I have no idea how! And now Paris is parroting Obama and pretending she came up with it.
"I also believe that in the short-term, as we transition to renewable energy, we can and should increase our domestic production of oil and natural gas. [...]
We should invest in the technology that can help us recover more from existing oil fields, and speed up the process of recovering oil and gas resources in shale formations in Montana and North Dakota; Texas and Arkansas and in parts of the West and Central Gulf of Mexico. [...]
Over the next five years, we should also lease more of the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska for oil and gas production. And we should also tap more of our substantial natural gas reserves and work with the Canadian government to finally build the Alaska Natural Gas Pipeline, delivering clean natural gas and creating good jobs in the process. [...]
A group of Democrat and Republican Senators sat down and came up with a compromise on energy that includes many of the proposals I've worked on as a Senator and many of the steps I've been calling for on this campaign. It's a plan that would invest in renewable fuels and batteries for fuel-efficient cars, help automakers re-tool, and make a real investment in renewable sources of energy.
Like all compromises, this one has its drawbacks. It includes a limited amount of new offshore drilling, and while I still don't believe that's a particularly meaningful short-term or long-term solution, I am willing to consider it if it's necessary to actually pass a comprehensive plan. [...]
First, we will help states like Michigan build the fuel-efficient cars we need, and we will get one million 150 mile-per-gallon plug-in hybrids on our roads within six years. [...]
I'll provide $4 billion in loans and tax credits to American auto plants and manufacturers so that they can re-tool their factories and build these cars. [...]
In addition, we'll find safer ways to use nuclear power and store nuclear waste. And we'll invest in the technology that will allow us to use more coal, America's most abundant energy source, with the goal of creating five "first-of-a-kind" coal-fired demonstration plants with carbon capture and sequestration."
I am I the only one who watched his speech?
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First, we will help states
August 6, 2008 - 08:29 ET by general companyFirst, we will help states like Michigan build the fuel-efficient cars we need, and we will get one million 150 mile-per-gallon plug-in hybrids on our roads within six years. [...]
6 yrs? 150mpg? Do they still build cars in Michigan? Seems to me the only car Co that can afford to make cars in the USA are the Forign auto makers.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
I don't think Paris is
August 6, 2008 - 09:09 ET by balboaI don't think Paris is pretending she came up with anything. It's a joke, a comedy bit.
Hi PT... Just wanted to
August 6, 2008 - 11:33 ET by bigtimerHi PT...
Just wanted to let you know you weren't the only one who heard Obama's twisting speech...
I heard about all of it...with the exception of the very end, which you provided here.
Just wanted to thank you...to me this is one of the most serious issues we have today.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Barely a mention of the Word DRILLING..and even then...
August 6, 2008 - 22:07 ET by JayTeeThe DRILLING word in that speech was very Qualified...and barely mentioned, while it was surrounded by Green speech.
McCain's Drill NOW, Drill everywhere was a lot less Qualified or surrounded by Political Green speech.
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised
Obama's energy "plan" sucks
August 7, 2008 - 00:57 ET by PopularTechYes, it is filled with green rhetoric and subsidies out the ass but my point was that Paris' "plan" is effectively a part of Obama's energy plan and hardly newsworthy in of itself.
Two points here...
One is that even Obama's team had to finally look at reality and realize that the far left was insane and inserted in oil, coal and nuclear to all his green rhetoric, effectively creating a
"plan" that includes anything.
Second people are easily duped by not listening or reading clearly. What does limited mean? It could mean one new rig when we currently have over 4000 in US waters! Strict environmental oversight can mean anything. All current production must meet current environmental regulations.
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You mean a politician...
August 7, 2008 - 01:16 ET by HillbillyKingwill say anything for a vote, PT? Say it ain't so!
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
Never mind Paris Hilton
August 6, 2008 - 08:09 ET by dscottNever mind Paris Hilton trying to rehabilitate her image as a blonde air head, it was obvious she was repeating lines from a teleprompter and finally got it down on the 20th or 30th take. And I certainly won't be entertaining advice from a coke head, no matter who she parrots.
I was looking at the time stamps on this thread. 22:54 is 10:54 p.m. EST or 7:54 p.m. left coast time. Do you people not go to bed? By the time this thread was posted I was sawing some serious zzzz's.
But now to my conspiracy theory of the week: Paris Hilton is a Hillary Clinton supporter. Now why do you suppose Paris, being a good little Dem, would diss the party's presumptive nominee???? This was in actuality a stealth campaign ad for Hillary Clinton. Yes folks, the August surprise is coming and the Obamanator is going to be in for a very rude surprise on the convention floor as the Dem superdels dump him for Hillary.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Paris
August 6, 2008 - 10:13 ET by shawn228McCain used her in an ad in a negative light, nothing wrong with her responding in kind and it was over all just light ribbing.
Real life video games are cool
Do you think she's a Democrat??
August 6, 2008 - 11:36 ET by sarcasmoWhy? Her parents' political donations indicate they're both very much Republicans, and just because she's been wild in the past doesn't mean she's a Democrat. I know a few Republicans who were plenty wild with drugs & sex in the past.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Sarc, it's called
August 6, 2008 - 13:20 ET by dscottSarc, it's called individual responsibility, her parents aren't the issue and not relevant. The blonde bimbo publicly proclaimed her support of Hillary and would campaign for her, one does not have to read the tea leaves to devine her political affliation. Type, Paris Hilton Hillary Clinton in your web search tool bar. It's all public knowledge.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
My conspiracy theory
August 7, 2008 - 08:07 ET by dscottMy conspiracy theory (connecting the dots) has gained support in the blogosphere: http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/could_obama_lose_the_nominatio_1.html
If the Obamanator and Obamatons can't see the obvious, they deserve to go down in a humiliating defeat! I can see Obama's face now with the look of shock and surprise (deer staring in the headlights) at having been outmanuvered by the crafty Clinton machine.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
the cue cards/teleprompter
August 6, 2008 - 08:39 ET by G-MoneyOf course she was reading off cue cards, which makes this a little funnier, I think. When she "gets serious" and reads the energy plan, look away (if you can :)). She actually sounds fairly intelligent at that point in the video. When the teleprompter is taken away from Obama, he sounds like a dropout. The comparison is apt.
Noel, My computer here at
August 6, 2008 - 09:41 ET by bassndudeNoel, My computer here at work will not display the flash you posted here...got another way to do it? Or do I have to wait till I get home?
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Not bad, Paris
August 6, 2008 - 10:47 ET by CobraManNot bad, Paris, not bad at all.
That was rather funny and, although nobody here mentioned the link, I thinks it's rather ironic that Paris mentioned the idea of combining Off-Shore Drilling AND Alternative Energy Sources (got to capitalize them as they are the Big Ideas of the candidates, right?) AFTER being described by just about everyone as one of "two blonde bimbo airheads with a combined I.Q. of a box of cereal." So much for being a “bimbo airhead,” as she seems to understand the solutions to our oil problems better than most, if not all, of the MSM airwave-heads combined. Isn't that right, Cafferty?
So, Paris, here's to your clever rebuttal and I hope to see you in Maui soon.
1) She's not 35 2) I bet
August 6, 2008 - 10:58 ET by wiwf1) She's not 35
2) I bet she has a tattoo inside her leg that says "Drill here, Drill now"
3) Who honestly looks to her for political advice?
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
Jealous?
August 6, 2008 - 11:12 ET by CobraMan"She's not 35"
And you point is, what? I didn't endorse her as President. I just pointed out that she's not a dumb as people insinuate.
"I bet she has a tattoo inside her leg that says "Drill here, Drill now"
That type of statement just makes me wonder if you’re jealous of her good looks and success. It has nothing to do with this clip. It is insulting to the extreme and it is used simply to demean and disparage her without addressing the value of her "plan". That's what I would expect of someone who posts at the Democratic Underground or the Daily Kos.
"Who honestly looks to her for political advice?"
Since she advises a rather good energy plan, maybe we should start.
What on earth makes you
August 6, 2008 - 22:37 ET by RESTLESS 1What on earth makes you think it is her plan? It is obvious that this was scripted. I'll bet ten dollars that when she looks into the magazine, she is looking at crib notes. Just because it includes drilling (highly resrictive drilling), does not make it a good plan. Saying it is better than Pelosi et al's is not a ringing endorsement. It is obama's plan and it calls for subsidies. No sale. I don't like welfare for the citizenry or for corporations. When and if alternate energy becomes economically viable, no tax incentives, (damn I hate that term), will be needed to have them produced or consumed. WAKE UP!!!!! It is OUR MONEY!
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Duh!
August 7, 2008 - 10:07 ET by CobraMan"What on earth makes you think it is her plan?"
Why do you think I put "plan" in quotes? I'm sure a LOT of people have thought of the same thing. I know I have, and for quite a long time. I'm also sure that she was just making a joke here. I mean, like Duh!
WAKE UP!!!!! It is HER JOKE!
Of course besides the other
August 6, 2008 - 11:24 ET by dscottOf course besides the other flaws in this plan you have already noted, alternative energy, i.e. solar, wind and geothermal can not, nor ever significantly replace fossil fuel derived energy. PERIOD.
Oil Free Economy Panacea
Wind Power Sales Hype
AGW Insanity
Nuclear power in combination with fossil fuels (oil and natural gas) is the only viable energy plan for the US. Nuclear power is the only proven, large scale and viable (cost effective) alternative energy that exists, but none of the ecofanatics will accept it and by extension neither will the Dems, not now, not ever.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
I agree
August 6, 2008 - 11:36 ET by CobraMan"Nuclear power in combination with fossil fuels (oil and natural gas) is the only viable energy plan for the US."
I agree to some extent, but I think that solar, wind, wave, and any other energy source should be used to supplement nuclear power and fossil fuels. The best energy plan allows for all sources to be used when and where they are best suited, and for new technology to continually increase efficiency and lower over-all costs of all technologies.
Not at 2 to 4 times the
August 6, 2008 - 13:14 ET by dscottNot at 2 to 4 times the cost, PC alternate energy can never be the answer, oil would have to get up well above $200/barrel. The best energy plan allows the market to decide, that means the government has to butt out, stop meddling and for the producers and consumers to make those decisions instead. We didn't have this problem 30 years ago, it started with idiot Carter and his Dem buddies banning oil and nuclear. We are where we are today because of government meddling in the economy. It was government solutions meddling with the energy business that got us in this mess and it has be government getting out of the energy business to resolve the issue. No more bad ideas from government, let the people decide, they are way smarter than any government idiots today like Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid or Obamanator.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
I beleive you missed something
August 7, 2008 - 10:00 ET by CobraManI believe you missed something and that is the part where I said "when and where they are best suited." That means when and where it is best suited, not when and where it is government mandated. Like you said, let the market decide, but let it decide in a sensible manner. This mean that ALL available sources should be considered and used where appropriate.
There's nothing wrong with using other sources to supplement nuclear and fossil fuels. It makes good sense to diversify energy sources, just like it makes sense to diversify revenue sources. Why limit ourselves to just to or three available sources? That leaves us vulnerable to supply limitations and disruption via lack of available fuel. It’s not that easy to make nuclear fuel, you know. Nor is it easy to mine and process coal, or to extract and process natural gas. What happens if the coal miners, for example, decide to strike? That would severely limit a source of fuel and THAT will greatly increase costs, if only for the short term. A supplemental energy source would eliminate any possible cost increase due to a lack of coal fuel, would it not?
Noel, I do not find that
August 6, 2008 - 12:42 ET by amberdeleted and moved to correct possition
This is ridiculous....
August 6, 2008 - 20:49 ET by Timothy HI have been absent for a little while, due to personal reasons, and this is what I come back too? Noel is one of the most upstanding people I know of, why is he under attack over a simple (possibly off color, depending on your viewpoint) remark?
What has happened here?
Amber, I am sorry if you are offended. Some of the remarks here are definately over the line. But I don't follow your "he did it, so I can do it worse and it's justified" mentality. Of all the comments, your's have been consistantly the most offensive.
You somehow feel that disparaging a woman you have no knowledge of other than that which has been provided to you by the same media we all decry here, and in the most lude and vulgar way represented here, is less offensive, or less ignorant, than the posters here who were slyly (or not) commenting on their fantasies about a woman that, like it or not, is widely viewed as beautiful, regardless of her "skankyness"? You should be ashamed of yourself.
And how exactly can you blame Noel for others thoughts and comments? That is not only silly, but unfair.
I do understand your offense to some of the postings, and I would not, myself, have typed those things. But I also would not have typed the things you responded with, and as far as I am concerned, you have displayed even less class than those you had wished to admonish.
I hope in the future you can control yourself, as, from what I have read, you seem like a very nice person when not up in arms. It really seems odd that you attacked the moral stadings of sitemembers by sinking your morals lower than what you perceived theirs to be.
And hello to TM, BT, and the rest of the gang. It has certainly been a while.
- Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints -
Hi Tim, this is really to Amber
August 6, 2008 - 21:16 ET by RukusHello Tim, I'm a newbie here and I agree with. I have total respect for Noel and the NB team and the bloggers here. Amber, I am sorry you were offended by some remarks on this blog about Paris. What I read was really just humorous remarks and weren't meant seriously! Please don't paint all us guys with the same brush. I am married and love my wife with all my heart, but, I have made humorous comments about other women and my wife gets it, I'm just being funny, no offense to her, she does the same (Brad Pitt comes to mind) LOL! We're just being guys and joking around, most of us don't really mean it and are just making fun of the likes of Paris, etc. It was just fun banter, that's all. I, like probably most of the male posters here respect the women in their lives. Humor is humor and not to be taken seriously. I understand you were offended but that was not the intent of the comments. I, as most, are very respectfull of women, ya'll are smarter after all, I admit that. Hey, guys goof off and make jokes, no big deal, you know this. Noel is a good guy and I don't think, after being here for a few weeks, would make disparging (sp?) remarks about women. Most of us guys on NB would defend women come hell or high water! Hey, we love ya'll!! Just my two cents. If I over spoke anyone feel free to tar and feather me!
"Nuke 'em 'til they... oh hell, just shoot 'em!"
Tar n Feathers
August 6, 2008 - 21:19 ET by Timothy HTar and feathers have been holstered....lol
- Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints -
okay you guys
August 6, 2008 - 21:20 ET by candanceNo need to pile on Amber. Everyone's had their say, so let's move on before more feelings get hurt.
Good Lord People...
August 6, 2008 - 21:27 ET by Clear thinkerThis reminds me of some talk show my wife was watching years ago, and I made the mistake of walking in the room as it was starting. My wife thought it would be good for me to listen to this expert on relationships between men and women. After the obligatory eye rolls, I sat down like a good husband and watched about ten minutes with my wife. After a huge build-up by the host of the show about the experts credentials, she came on and immediately got down to business. She was asked one question by the host and proceeded to talk for 4-5 minutes straight without coming up for air. The last part of which she announced her earth shattering discovery and said... "Men and Women are different". Afater this "DUH" moment I told the wife I had had enough and left the room. I did not need this Ivy League School graduate to tell me that I am different than my wife, I kinda knew that even before we got married.
Men and women do see things differently, and there's nothing wrong with that. In fact, I like it that way. My post above stating that I wished my wife looked like Paris was a joke. I love my wife more and more with each passing year and I would NEVER consider sleeping with Paris over my wife. It was just a man joke. Not meant to hurt anyone and not meant to insult anyone. I even told my wife what I said and how this thread has turned out. Her only reaction was to slap me in the back of the head and say "MEN!" very emphatically. She then kissed me and said to have fun on NB (She knows I enjoy posting here).
Ladies, I meant no disrespect, it was simply a guy joke thing. Something guys do all the time. We can joke like this and still love our wives and not cheat on them. It's a joke!
Fair enough?
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CT
August 6, 2008 - 21:31 ET by Timothy HWell stated, and good to see you, old friend.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Where have you been?
August 6, 2008 - 21:35 ET by Clear thinkerHave not seen you here in many Moons, were you over in the big sandbox?
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CT.....
August 6, 2008 - 21:41 ET by Timothy HNo, my friend. Have been retired since '99. Just a lot of life changes that have taken a toll on my time. New marraige, New town, Bought a new home, New (much better) Job. New Life. Just starting to finally settle into a routine. Thank you for asking.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Glad to see you back...
August 6, 2008 - 21:44 ET by Clear thinkerAnd glad your life is looking good for you.
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CT...
August 6, 2008 - 21:46 ET by Timothy HThank you. I hope all is well for you, too.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
My point exactly! We are
August 6, 2008 - 21:45 ET by RukusMy point exactly! We are different and have different senses of humor. It isn't mean or offensive, we don't mean it that way, just a funny joke, period. We get it and most of our better halves get it too!
"Nuke 'em 'til they... oh hell, just shoot 'em!"
Clear - we like to slap our Pigs
August 6, 2008 - 21:45 ET by Dee Bunk; )
I don't think Amber or any one of us would have been offended by a single comment, it was the way the theme took over on the thread.
I had hoped and guessed that yours was innocuous and your explanation is refreshing. As I said above it's the whole Men are from Mars women are from Venus thing.
Thanks Dee...
August 6, 2008 - 21:50 ET by Clear thinkerWanna hear a Caveman joke about men and women?
On second thought, never mind.
;-)
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life's frustrated weaklings
August 7, 2008 - 09:56 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasThe only people that would find evil or ill-intent in your post are life's frustrated weaklings who spend most of their time posturing and feigning offense in an attempt to debilitate others in order to compensate for their own inadequacies.
As to the comments of others who saw your fraternal humor as a license for other comments, that isn't in consideration here either way.
The answer to terrorism IS war. Next Please!