MSNBC's Shuster to Report on Freepers Bashing Obama's Daughter

Photo of Noel Sheppard.

UPDATE AT END OF POST: Is Vancouver Sun writer a Daily Kos contributor?

MSNBC's David Shuster on Saturday told his fans at Twitter that he intends to report on some ugly comments made about President Obama's daughter Malia at the conservative website Free Republic last week.

For those unaware, a British Daily Mail article about a peace sign t-shirt Malia was wearing in Rome before the start of the G-8 summit was posted at Free Republic Wednesday evening.

According to the Vancouver Sun, this generated some tasteless remarks (readers are advised to see update at end of post dealing with this writer's possible connection to Daily Kos):

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"A typical street whore." "A bunch of ghetto thugs." "Ghetto street trash." "Wonder when she will get her first abortion."

These are a small selection of some of the racially-charged comments posted to the conservative 'Free Republic' blog Thursday, aimed at U.S. President Barack Obama's 11-year-old daughter Malia after she was photographed wearing a t-shirt with a peace sign on the front.

The thread was accompanied by a photo of Michelle Obama speaking to Malia that featured the caption, "To entertain her daughter, Michelle Obama loves to make monkey sounds."

On Saturday, Shuster informed his fans:

@mikelord @thejoshuablog. We will cover this monday: http://bit.ly/3pqS7M. But follow @joetrippi for what can be done on-line. from web 

As the Freep post in question has been disabled, there's no way to assess just how vile the comments were, how pervasive, and how many Freepers protested. However, comments sections and message boards throughout the blogosphere are notorious for containing astoundingly offensive material. 

Shuster should certainly know this. After all, on May 4, while subbing for Keith Olbermann on "Countdown," Shuster used an altered logo of the GOP that was created for the ultra-liberal website Daily Kos.

Further complicating matters, the guy Shuster often subs for regularly posts at DKos...and anybody that has ever ventured into the comments sections at that website knows how disgusting things can get there.

With this in mind, it does seem interesting that MSNBC and Shuster would delve into this matter at Free Republic, especially as that network and its anchors don't seem to mind when Republicans and their children are viciously attacked.

Maybe someone should remind Shuster before he goes in front of the camera Monday that Olbermann actually defended Letterman's recent remarks concerning Sarah Palin's daughter as did Contessa Brewer.

In fact, maybe Shuster ought to identify whether or not he took a position against Letterman's joke last month before he casts any stones.

(A LexisNexis search identified no comment from Shuster concerning this highly-publicized issue, although MSNBC only produces transcripts for its prime time programs.) 

Readers should be advised that whatever ugliness occurred at Free Republic is by no means condoned. We very much agree with what candidate Obama said during last year's campaign: children should be off limits. We wish those on both sides of the aisle -- including Obama's supporters in the media and the blogosphere -- would heed his request or cease being outraged when someone they revere is shamelessly defamed.

*****Update: The Vancouver Sun article was posted at FR earlier today. Those interested should read some of the comments as they deal with what occurred there Thursday.

*****Update II: Maybe before Shuster goes any further with this, he might want to investigate the Vancouver Sun writer's possible connection to Daily Kos (h/t NBer carolina09). 

"HollywoodOz" has written some pretty vile stuff at DailyKos during his tenure. These included playing a mnemonics game wherein "BUSH" was "Bloody Useless Sack Of Hatred" and CHENEY was "Can He Eat Negro Eyes Yet." 

He's also fond of creating Google bombs, including one in 2005 to make Bill O'Reilly look like a terrorist sympathizer.

What's the connection to the Sun's Chris Parry? Well, Moxie Online has a member named HollywoodOz, real name Chris Parry. Technorati also shows HollywoodOz as Chris Parry. 

Beyond this, a man simply calling himself Oz runs a blog called Notes From the Nat which follows baseball, in particular the Vancouver Canadians. In 2006, a fan sent in an e-mail message wherein Oz was referred to as "the wizard of HollywoodOz, Chris Parry."

Finally, DKos's HollywoodOz often cites Vancouver newspapers and other Canadian media as he did here, here, and here.

Is this all a coincidence?

Maybe, but as you might imagine, the Freepers are up in arms about this revelation.

Will MSNBC and Shuster investigate any of this before they go ahead with this planned report?

Stay tuned.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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  As the old saying

  As the old saying says....  What goes around, comes around.

Democratic Underground Did This.

They said they would, and they have before, so why is everyone assuming the posts came from the right?

Isn't it obvious that Trippi and Shuster coordinated this in advance?

~Yes

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Shuster....sit down and shut up!

Truly....the man is worse than Keith Oberloon. 

Young Miss Obama isn't a fashion icon, she's a teenager.  Leave her the hell alone!  And in this instance, leave her mom out of it too.....Malia Obama is at a delicate age, she is old enough to wear what she wants (within reason) and her mom should let her do so.   So for once, Michelle....good for you!

This poor kid is going to be ruined for life if the Shusters of the world get their hooks into her.  She doesn't need ONE lecture from mom, granny, nor a staffer about her choices in t-shirts, for cryin' out loud!

As conservatives, I think it behooves us all to say...."Leave the kid(s) alone!!!!".  Let her enjoy what is left of her childhood.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

I dont have any problem with

I dont have any problem with teh peace shirt as I grew up with it.  I do and will have a problem if she wears a che' tshirt.  I alwasy thought is strange the Houston Obama office sporting Che' posters.  One wonders, nay it confirms that Che and Duh One think alike,

Well Said.

I could not agree with you more "leave the kids alone" it makes no difference if their parents are Repulicans, Democrats, Independents or whatever,

"leave the kids alone" !

Teenager?

Malia Obama is 10 years old. Sasha Obama is 7 years old.

I thought she was 13

Okay, we'll amend it...tween.

I've seen four year old girls who won't budge when it comes to what they want to wear.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Not age

What matters here is not age. Letterman called Palins daughter, in effect, a whore and she's 14. What matters here is Political party and social outlook of the parents. Socialist is "good", conservative is "bad". NAAAAAH, THAT'S NOT IT. IT'S RACE, RACE,RACE,RACE,RACE,RACE,RACE,RACE,RACE,RACE,RACE,. Black is good, but white is bad. Do you understand what it's like to live in America today?

Oh how righteous of msnbc

Oh how righteous of msnbc and Shyster...same ol' hypocrites, go to any leftist web site and see what they say and have said past and present.

Give me a break Shuster, grow up someday....get a life.

What hypocrisy...going after the right again, they will never quit, and Soros and ilk will make sure of that.

They can have all the free speech they want, when they want but not the right...we are all supposed to be polite little robots at all times cowering in fear...Fairness Doctrine isn't going to be needed the way things are going...not at all.

Do as I say... not as I do.

No hypocrisy here.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Two scenarios: One, a

Two scenarios:

One, a video of Bush's daughter surfaces with her getting drunk and having sex with multiple partners, some of whom look like skinheads/ neonazis, while, obviously, from the background, in the White House.

Two, a video of Obama's daughter surfaces with her getting high and having sex with multiple partners, some of whom look like Black Panthers/ 'gangstas', while,  obviously, from the background, in the White House.

Which video would the MSM downplay/dismiss/debunk/attempt to hide?

D

 

Write Congress and Senate and tell them what YOU think!

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I wonder if anyone said that

I wonder if anyone said that Malia should get knocked up by A-Rod?  That would be something to report on...

If Edison were to invent the light bulb today, the head- lines would read, '200,000 candle makers lose their jobs.'

Noel,

Parts of your article are a little too close to "they do it too" justification. Let's do as Blonde suggests and tell everyone to leave the kids out of it. 

 

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Thank you R1

Having been one (once upon a time).....being a teenaged girl is difficult enough without the horror of being under media scrutiny.

The Obama girls should remain off the public radar. 

Permanently.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

rest

rest,

Did you not see my final paragraph?  ns

I'll admit to drinking some fine Bavarian brew

But a last paragraph after posting similar comments from leftwing sites doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter what olbermann or brewer defended in the past. This article should have been a condemnation of the Free Republic poster and nothing else. As you said, the post in question has been disabled. That's good.

I have no quarrel with your article per se, and your final paragraph is laudible. I just could have done without the examples from the othere side, as it in no way justifies the comment made. 

 

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

And what brew would that

And what brew would that be?

 

FreeRepublic isn't a news

FreeRepublic isn't a news source, though.  They don't have a prime time show on CBS.

If Edison were to invent the light bulb today, the head- lines would read, '200,000 candle makers lose their jobs.'

Noel,

Upon contemplation, I can see why you have added the examples of the left condoning like comments. I have a habit of assuming all readers of this blog are as aware as the posters here. To that end, I take back any criticism of your inclusion of olbermann's and brewer's defense of letterman's "joke". 

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

rest

rest,

Cool...now, what was that beer you were drinking?  :-)  ns

To answer you and NL207

The name is Weihenstephaner. It's good. Claims to be the world's oldest brewery. "Premium Bavaricum" it says. Don't know for sure about the claims, but it is mighty good. :)

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Its claims are likely to be

Its claims are likely to be true.

Weihenstephaner is probably the best commercial beer in Germany.  It was, and I think, still is, made by a cloistered community ....  monks.  Its also more expensive than most other German beer, even in Germany.  Nevertheless, it is one of my favorites.

I call bs on this one. I

I call bs on this one. I think just as abortion doctors have their clinics bombed when no one is there to either gain attention or pay off debts incurred by the clinic, I think a bunch of trouble making left wing nutjobs are doing this to make Freeper look bad.

A distinct possibility

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Derbal, that was my

Derbal, that was my immediate thought as well. Something just does not pass the "smell" test there. With the exception of the loonie supremacy-type people, conservatives are not a crowd that generally use one-line vile insults.

Sure, we insult when appropriate, but it is not normally so vulgar and crass. On the other hand, the internet loonie left does take that exact tactic. It would not surprise me if some of them tried to hack the thread. Having so little understanding of "the other side" all they would do is change the target and add some racism. And then guffaw about how clever they were.

 

"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt

That Is NOT The Photo From Free Republic

The photo with this NewsBusters post is NOT the same photo that ignited the Free Republic crowd.

The photo displayed at Free Republic showed the 11 year old daughter walking almost hand in hand with with a blinged-up, sleeveless, unidentified, hip-hop black dude.

Here's the link to the photo at the Vancouver Sun:

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/

Conservative+Free+Republic+blog+free+

speech+flap+after+racial+slurs+directed

+Obama+children/1782375/story.html

The same photo was displayed at Free Republic before the post was pulled.

Also, now that the post is gone, we can't check the archives for people who made ugly or racist comments.

Date of membership and previous comments can often separate real Freepers from Leftside provocateurs, which happens a lot over there. 

Thx, zee.

Date of membership and previous comments can often separate real Freepers from Leftside provocateurs, which happens a lot over there. 

Happens HERE too. 

Go figure.  Ugly is ugly, and I'd hope all of us conservatives will defend young Miss Obama's right to her childhood privacy.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Blonde

Unfortunately, a few of the more outrageous quotes were from long term Freepers, plus, the original post was put up by a long termer.

I wish I could check the times that the really offensive stuff went up.

After midnight, we often get some of our regulars when they are intoxicated and in kick a** mood, which is not good.

Finally, the founder of Free Republic, Jim Robinson, wrote an email, or a comment, I forget which, where he mocked the situation, saying we shouldn't blame the young girl "because her father is a Marxist pig."

All in all, another very bad day for Conservatives.

By all means click over to the real photo, with the hip-hop gangster.

That is an EXTREMELY provocative image, and it explains much of the emotion that came out on that post.

It explains nothing Zee

From what I've seen, those comments were every bit as vile, if not moreso the ones we decry on a daily basis.

You have no idea who that "gansta" is, nor do I, but I do see at least one Italian police officer and four men, one black, in coats and ties. These are presumably secret service.

She is ELEVEN years old. How much did you know at that age??? Leave her alone!!! 

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

I have no issue with Jim

I have no issue with Jim Robinson's comment. I have no issue with the person who said "I hope she doesn't get punished with a baby". Those are legitimate comments. (Remember, Obama used that exact terminology himself referring to his daughters).

The comments on the kids are a conundrum. Obama has put his kids in the spotlight by taking them on what should be a political excursion, not a family vacation. He seems to have some idea that they are "junior ambassadors" or something.  As such, they are being heralded by the MSM with nothing but loving sentiment. Well, I don'tfeel that loving sentiment towards them, and I think we have the right to call it out. But NOT in deliberate,disgusting, hateful terms.

Commenting on the appropriateness of that T-shirt under the circumstances was not unfair. Attacking the child is.

"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt

zee

zee,

The picture I used came from the Daily Mail piece. I had no way of knowing the FR posting used a different one. 

That said, I'm not sure it matters:

"The photo displayed at Free Republic showed the 11 year old daughter walking almost hand in hand with with a blinged-up, sleeveless, unidentified, hip-hop black dude."

Is that what you see? I see a guy wearing a delicate gold or silver chain with a small crucifix hanging from it.  ns

Noel

I also see bling on both wrists.

Also, looks to me like the 11 year old is not wearing a bra.

But, I'm from an older generation.

If modern fathers are comfortable with their pubescent daughters being escorted around Italy with a guy like this, well, I don't know what to say.

 

Zee The guy to her left in

Zee The guy to her left in the blue suit is probably secret service, which is why she can escorted by the guy in the tshirt.  Obama can look "cool" (so important to the MSM) by having her with this guy, knowing nothing's gonna happen with the secret service guy there.

I wonder if I can get secret service to cover my 17 year old?

Going out on a limb I would

Going out on a limb I would say that the guy is probably her secret service escourt. Dressed to "blend"

Is there room for 2 on that limb of yours, Snappy? Those were

my first thoughts also!  He definitely is a clean-cut 'dude' if that is what someone wants to call him...as for me, I figure he is doing what he is paid to do...protect the young lady!

My comments on the attire, however, will disclose my age.  In my humble opinion, Americans should dress a bit more respectfully when visiting other countries.  When we travel abroad, I try not to draw attention to end up being called an 'ugly American'.  Her shirt and shorts would be appropriate for a casual gathering, but if they can put them in thousands of dollars worth of J. Crew just to board a darn airplane, then why not continue to keep them in more appropriate street dress?  One minute it is 'don't talk about the kids' and the next minute it is 'promote the kids' - it is a very confusing environment.

I did take offense at the negative posts - however, I agree they do not sound like regular NB-type posters.  We should all use a bit of caution and realize our words can have a detrimental effect on everyone on the site.  As my mommy used to say..."Birds of a feather..."

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Right Wing Radical Extremist!     It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

SS

I say the guy in the tee-shirt is Secret Service. The two suits as well, the one with the striped tie and the one almost hidden by tee-shirt.

Seems obvious to me that the Secret Service would have a mix of suits (authority figures, easy to pack) as well as some intended to blend in. The girls surely have their own detail and code names and all.

PS She definitely has her mother's lower jaw.  Don't like the kinky hair though, she looks better with it straight.

Slick,

At first glance the guy looks like Kanye West; but then again his head is just not big enough to be Kanye.

zee.... Thanks, I heard

zee....

Thanks, I heard there were other pictures on the radio described as the one you put here...it will be interesting what Freepers has to say now that they have all this attention...Monday radio is going to be interesting too.

It's just a start with the leftists to stifle the right on the internet, they already did years ago via television...that's my opinion.

No Fairness Doctrine needed, it's happening already.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Hey!!

Is that Sean Penn walking behind her?  LINK

Funny how this 'controversy' has flared up the day before the Sotomayor confirmation hearings start. How many times has  this type of mis-direction been used?  Awfully convenient, isn't it? S.O.P. for this administration.

 

"Well being as there's no other place around the place, I reckon this must be the place, I reckon."- Curly

That guy

appears to be too happy (sarc) to be Penn.

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

Stereotyping

"with a blinged-up, sleeveless, unidentified, hip-hop black dude."

seems like needless stereotyping to me. 

 

seems like needless

seems like needless stereotyping to me.

There is a reason a sterotype is called that, because it fits.  Its not needless but an identifier.  Sorta like the identifier of Troll.

Go to Alan.com, he has the screenshots

They are, to say the least, disgusting. http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7610/missobamaspeaceniktshir.jpg

 Besides the tasteless joke Letterman made and the Huffington post blogger who made that despicable remark about Trig, what other instances have bloggers or even the media attacked Palin's children? Does anyone have a screen shot of comments or video of CNN or MSNBC? I've never seen the vitrol at Palin's children like I have seen with Malia here.

 

As you may presently yourself be fully made aware of, my grammar sucks.
Family Guy

Shuster always seems to have

Shuster always seems to have his mouth wide open.  Must be a ton of dead house flies in there.

What happened to the gangsta dude Malia was with...

...in the Drudge pic? 

-Dave

"Obama's health care 'reform' plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof." - Herman Cain

Dave

Dave,

Gangsta dude? Take another look. ns

Noel,

It was this pic.

LOL-That bugged me far more than the shot of Obama and the Brazillian girl.

-Dave

"Obama's health care 'reform' plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof." - Herman Cain

Dave.... Thank you...that

Dave....

Thank you...that is the one I was thinking of...and saw briefly somewhere.

Just glad you posted it so I didn't think I had imagined it.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

R D Helm

I believe you are correct, RD.

I saw the Free Republic photo just once, a day or two back.

I thought the Vancouver Sun photo was the same one in Free Republic.

Now, I think your link is the correct photo, and my link was a mistake.

bt & zeestephen,

Honestly, would you want your 11yo daughter to be seen in public with a guy dressed like that?

I certainly wouldn't.

I don't even have a daughter, but I do have three nieces, and I wouldn't want that for them, either.

God, do the parents of our nation's children have no standards anymore?

-Dave

"Obama's health care 'reform' plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof." - Herman Cain

Dave... In answer to your

Dave...

In answer to your first question, two letters...

NO.

In answer to your second...in my opinion, they couldn't even understand the definition of standards...let alone class...which falls in the same category.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

bt - I'll 'double down' on your NO ;-)

Going out in public...especially in a foreign country...and especially the daughter of a president of the United States.  I can't remember even Amy Carter dressing like that...certainly not Chelsea or the Bush girls.  But then I come from growing up in the fifties wearing crinolines under our long skirts! 

Hey, Blonde, I attended high school in Miami and the dress code was DRESSES only - and we had to wear a little 'bolero' jacket if the dress was a 'sun' dress.  Gosh, just writing of these memories makes me feel like a dinosaur!  Amazing to watch the kids get on the school buses now!

And, Dave, in response to your question "God, do the parents of our nation's children have no standards anymore?"  Have you walked a mall in America lately???  My hubby and I cannot believe what we see!

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Right Wing Radical Extremist!     It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

I'm of the 'younger

I'm of the 'younger generation' and I don't get it, either. A lot of these people say they do it to look good. Well, there's a difference between looking good and looking like a prostitute.

"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."

Padmé Amidala, Revenge of the Sith

Ah yes.....the DRESS code

When I was little, we weren't allowed to wear pants to school unless it was less than 40 degrees!  Like that happens here maybe every other year.

Which all went out the window in high school.  Kids will be kids, they all grow up eventually (well, maybe not, you should see what some of the 20 somethings try to get away with at work, too).

This little incident merely proves the Obama's bad judgement, Michelle's probably more than The One's.  I truly feel sorry for any President's kids, it must be horrible to live in a fishbowl.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Blonde

"This little incident merely proves the Obama's bad judgement, Michelle's probably more than The One's."

Indeed. And in a foreign country and city, no less. Again, I shudder to think of this flip-flopped. Libs and the MSM would take both the kids AND the political parents to task on a level just short of Watergate (okay, that's a bit of a stretch, but you get my point. :))

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

It is BS

Whoever made those comments is as sick as Letterman or the Kos Kids.I dont care whose kids.Leave them the flock alone!If you want to rag on Obama more power to you but his kids arent in power.Let them be kids.They dont deserve those sleazy comments any more than Sara's children. 

Kids? What kids?

Ain't nothing strange about their daddy...

I don't know why I thought

I don't know why I thought Malia would be a cute kid.  I had never seen a picture of her until just now and unfortunately, not what I imagined.  I thought she would be cute like "Rudy" on the old Cosby Show. Poor kid.

All kids should be left

All kids should be left alone.

I will stick by that even though the rule is actually - all Democrat's kids should be left alone; Palin's kids are fair game.  As are any other  kids whose conservative parents are hated by the left. 

I guess that's just the way it is going to have to be.  

 

The Time Has Come!!!

Sorry guys, I believe in tit-for-tat. Obama and the Democrats say the kids are off limits but then say nothing after the repeated attacks on Sarah Palin's family. You all bitched about John McCain and now you're acting just like him. Why do you think the Republican Party looks so weak?

Please watch the followingYouTube link and send it to everybody you know. The time has come. Don't just type. Act!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA

fm.... Right you

fm....

Right you are....that video says it all...and I have passed it around to all I know...long ago, still love to listen to it though, speaks volumes.

Now if just more really listen.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

bt...did you hear the part

bt...did you hear the part where he says to abolish the electoral college and require 2 years universal service (military or community)?

Now who does that sound like?

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

fly

There is a difference going after politicians and going against their kids.You can say all you want about Obama but attacking kids is bs.The kids arent the ones attacking each other.So why attack them.You want to vent well there are plenty of adults to hammer.Between Obama and the msm there are plenty of targets. 

Tell Them That!

Wake Up 99! Every attack on Sarah Palin's family should be followed with the disclaimer;

"I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message."

Grow some balls!!!

fly

That may be.I dont believe in attacking the kids and I wont start now.If you have a beef then take it up with the adults.It was Letterman and other losers that attacked Sara's kids.Those are the ones that deserved to get the sh$$ knocked out of them.Not some other kids.Dont matter whose.

 "Grow some balls!!!"

As far as that why dont you flock off and die in a hard way.I dont need some punk a$$ bitch to tell me how to act.Go change your diapers jr. 

99 Barking Up The Wrong Tree

You have a whole slew of punk a$$ bitches telling you how to act. They're called the MSM and you're complying marvelously. The next time somebody takes a swipe at Palin's kids go to the Daily Kos or HuffPo and read them the riot act tough guy. 

fly

Actually I did post at the kos kids during the election.Didnt do any good with those punks either.See only a punk attacks kids.I dont care right,left, or center.

Mope!!!

Well then, you keep being nice 99 and let me know how that works out for you.

I see it can't act any better with other adults either.

  well99 gets a big mark next to Can't act and play well with others.

I have no idea which "re-education" camp I will wind up in...

...but I do hope it is the one with that guy.

-Dave

"Obama's health care 'reform' plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof." - Herman Cain

In the eyes of the

In the eyes of the re-educators, he doesn't need re-education.  You do.   Your mind is full of dangerous ideas like God given inalienable rights of individuals.  His mind is ... empty.

I'm still trying to line up a good cook for my hubby for when

'the knock' comes on our door and they cart me off for re-education ;-)

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Right Wing Radical Extremist!     It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

Good evening Cape

Good thinking because after reeducation you will only know how to prepare arugula.

Jesus Loves You so much He died for you

coco - and that will break our retirement budget ;-)

And besides, my hubby will have to learn to like it first ;-)  I hope they won't make me eat tofu, too!

I wonder how long they'll keep us?  My better half scrambles eggs real good but he might get tired of them before I get back home to cook all the 'good stuff' ;-)

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Right Wing Radical Extremist!     It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

 

CC, LOL-I wonder if I can bring along one of my Webers...

...and a bag of charcoal?

Hell, by then, they will have probably outlawed charcoal grilling, anyway.

-Dave

"Obama's health care 'reform' plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof." -

..or just charcoal to begin

..or just charcoal to begin with.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

No, no, no... nothing will

No, no, no... nothing will be outlawed, you just wont be able to afford the charcoal what with the increased taxes to offset the life threatening and planet killing warming that will occur by bbq'ing.

Snappy... Point well

Snappy...

Point well made.

Sad thing is, I'd like to say lol, but lord knows where all this is going to end up.

One way or the other, it will cost us all dearly...in more ways than one....chip away at more of our freedoms as we are forced to pay for that too.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

LOL, looks like I jumped the

LOL, looks like I jumped the gun, some others are fed up with the stupidity too.

I just looked at Shuster's

I just looked at Shuster's Twitter page, here is the summation:

Palin
Palin
Palin
Palin
Palin
Obama <3
Palin
Palin
Palin
Thanks guys! Yes she's sooo stoopid isn't she, LOlzrofl!!1

 The girl can wear what she

 The girl can wear what she wants, but what some on here fail to realize is that she is the DAUGHTER OF THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD !! (so far)

everything she does/says/wears will be scrutinized. WHAT THE HELL WERE HER PARENTS THINKING ???? Where was this clown when the press were stalking the Bush twins ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"I LOVE DEAD KENNEDY'S"

Well the big difference is

Well the big difference is that the Bush twins were not 11-year-olds.

I agree with Blonde...Malia should be allowed to wear whatever she wants, within the bounds of good taste. And this does not fall outside those bounds IMO.

The symbol was originally the logo for the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, but since then has "morphed" into a kind of a generic sign for "peace" which is not offensive. 

Come on, guys,  this would be like saying if the younger one wore a shirt with a rainbow on it, that they were advertising for gay rights.

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

MB

Some people dont get it.This isnt a matter of left/right.It is about kids.People got mad at the sick comments about Sara kids.Myself included.So why are twisted comments about Obama's kid ok?Why someone would want to mimic those sewer rats at Kos Kids or Letterman I have no idea.As far as Shister he nothing but trash anyways.Why MSNBC pimps him out I have no clue. 

motherbelt finally wounds me.

   We beg to differ!

   since then has "morphed" into a kind of a generic sign for "peace" which is not offensive. 

  Sorry motherbelt, it is offensive. The political parents of a child should not allow said child to wear political symbols. A very big bold symbol by the way. It was not a little alligator up in the corner.

***Update***

  As per the article I posted. Che t-shirts are righteous or hip too. Should she be allowed to wear one of those?

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

I support your right to

I support your right to find it offensive; frankly, I find it so because it reminds me of drugged-out hippie draft-dodgers.

I'm just saying that it's not viewed now as it was then.

re the Che shirt...I agree that would not be OK. 

One stood for nuclear disarmament and/or peace, which, no matter what the politics of those who used it, was not a violent cause, whereas what Che advocated, was.

PS: Apologies for the wound.  I'm sure it's not fatal. ;-)

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

It is a common ploy of the left.

  Move the offensive into the mainstream. Nuclear disarmament may not have been violent but it was idiotic. Our enemies had no intention of disarming. And it was another example of the left's idea of moral equivalence. It put the U.S that had nuclear weapons on par with the Soviet Union that had nuclear weapons.

  Regardless of it's start, it was hijacked by the anti-war movement during the Vietnam war.

  How about the other offensive symbols. Should she have been allowed to wear the keffeyah? They are mainstreaming that too.

  Many on the left would find this t-shirt ultra cool -

http://www.stylinonline.com/t-shirt-republicans-suck.html

  There are those of us not in the mainstream that think we were right to go in to Vietnam. 58,000 died for a just cause.  We signed a peace treaty in Paris in 1973 and immediately began withdrawing out troops honoring that treaty. North Vietnam broke the treaty 2 years later by invading its southern neighbor again and we refuse to come to the aid of an ally.

  She may as well be wearing a t-shirt that says Screw you JWF. Better yet, We Won , a quote from her arrogant father.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Whenever I see that symbol, I remember the horrible times

of the Chicago 7, the sit-ins at Columbia, Bill Ayers & Co doing their anti-American thing, the 'flower children' in San Francisco and John Fn Kerry throwing his make-believe medals away and calling our brave military baby killers and rapists and and and and

So, while the symbol may have 'mellowed' over the years, those are the images that jump to the forefront of my mind. 

And once again I state that tasteful dressing in public is what it's all about.  You can wear whatever sloppy clothing you want at home, but it is only common courtesy to have some regard for others when you venture out.  One's clothing reflects one's being...oops, there I go again, sounding just like my mother...bless her dear departed soul.

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Right Wing Radical Extremist!     It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

Sorry motherbelt, it is

Sorry motherbelt, it is offensive. The political parents of a child should not allow said child to wear political symbols.

JWF that being said, the flak should be on the parents, not the girls.  At 11 they have complete control over what the clothing of those girls.  So comments should be directed to the parents, not the girls, they don't have any understanding of they symbolism of their clothes.

I will give you that.

  I have said nothing nasty about the child. The BBC article said nothing nasty about the child. I do not know what the original article said about the child as Noel said it was taken down.

  The anonymous posters said something nasty about the child.

  I am saying there would have been no BBC article, no FreeRepublic article, no MSNBC article, and no article from Noel had someone told the child to stay out of politics.

  But no one stopped and said, hey that might send the wrong message. Just like Air Force One doing a flyby on freaked out New Yorkers. There is a whole entourage surrounding this child and not one of them could point out this might not be such a good idea?

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

motherbelt

Strongly disagree.

This girl is the daughter of the Commander In Chief of America's armed forces.

She is making a political statement.

If she doesn't understand the consequences of parading around a foreign country wearing that tee shirt, then where are the adults in her life who do understand?

For my generation the "Peace Symbol" is a powerful political icon.

For those of us who opposed the world wide expansion of Communism, the "Peace Symbol" represents the completely pointless death of 60,000 Americans, 200,000 South Vietnamese, and 2 million Cambodians.

Agree, zeest - having the Vietnam war in everyone's living room

at dinner time was the first time the media showed how it could control the news presented to the American public.

There was nothing 'peaceful' about having images seared in your mind about people grabbing (and sometimes missing) departing helicopters in Saigon...nor was it 'peaceful' to see the horrendous torture inflicted on citizens of Laos, Cambodia and South Vietnam after we failed to support them when North Vietnam went on its rampage.

I guess the meaning of this symbol is a matter of 'where you were' in your life at the time and therefore everyone has a different take. 

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Right Wing Radical Extremist!     It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

 

Just be glad she wasn't

Just be glad she wasn't wearing something completely tasteless, like shorts with the word "Juicy" across the butt like some 11 year-old girls I've seen...that's just wrong!  Hey, I used to have a pair of peace sign earrings I wore when I was younger.  It doesn't mean a thing.

As for the guy with her...I personally don't see the problem.  He looks like he's dressed for the summer weather and so he has some jewelry on, big deal.  Men are allowed to wear that, you know.  The only problem I might have with him is if he turned out to be a family friend traveling around on the taxpayer's dollar.

It is a political symbol. She deserves the flak.

  Does anyone think there would have been any negative comments had she worn a plain white t-shirt?

  You make a political message with a political sign, you are gonna take fire from people that disagree with your political message.

  That said, I only read comments at NewsBusters and Powelineblog where they do not allow anonymous users.

   Millions died when we turned our back on South Vietnam. And we turned our back thanks in large part to the hippies and their anti-war movement.

A Peace of History Turns 50

by Chris Hubbuch

A familiar icon has reached a milestone. The peace symbol turns 50 today.Before it was a hippie fashion accessory, before it became the emblem of the Vietnam era anti-war movement, the peace symbol stood for nuclear disarmament.

The British Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament details the origins of its logo.

Designed by British artist and conscientious objector Gerald Holtom for what then was the Direct Action Committee Against Nuclear War, the bisected circle with two downward spokes combined the semaphores for the letters "N" - two flags held down at a 45 degree angle - and "D," one up, one down.

The symbol was unveiled Feb. 21, 1958, according to the New York Public Radio show "On the Media," and made its public debut at a 1958 Easter weekend anti-nuclear march, according to CND.

It later migrated to the U.S., where it was adopted by student pacifists and later by the anti-Vietnam War movement.

Columbia University professor Todd Gitlin said it was in the mid- to late 1970s that the peace sign started to become more of a fashion statement.

As the anti-war activists of the 1960s grew older, a younger generation was looking for a way of declaring who they were, Gitlin said. "For them, it seemed to signify being righteous or hip."

"Back in the '60s and '70s, everyone was familiar with the sign. People were putting it on their graduation caps," said Keith Knutson, a Viterbo University professor who said he protested the Vietnam War before serving in the Navy.

Knutson compares the Vietnam War to the current war in Iraq. Both were wars of choice, not necessity, he said. "But the peace symbol doesn't seem to be coming back." 

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/21/7209

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Rather than "deserves" I'd

Rather than "deserves" I'd say "was asking for" flak.  The kid probably doesn't understand the symbol she so boldly displayed on her shirt.  But her parents do or at least should, so they deserve the flak.

10-7s I'm afraid her parents have no idea either!

Why else would a presidential candidate allow a Che poster in his campaign office? 

I believe the 20 years sitting in the pew of Jeremiah Wright's church [dis]colored their outlook of America more than any history class in school or time in a scout troop (bet there was NO time there by either one).  It would appear these two people have never been exposed to LOVE OF COUNTRY!

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Right Wing Radical Extremist!     It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

Sorry guys, I have to

Sorry guys, I have to disagree.

We have to learn to use all of the left's weapons and tactics against them and it looks like you are all falling for the same old trap again.

To Paraphrase an old movie, "If they pull a knife you pull a gun. If they put one of your's in the hospital you put one of their's in the morgue."

It is well past time for the conservatives to take off the kid-gloves. We are going to be tarred as racist, bigot, homophobes (and anything else the lefties can think of) so we had better be prepared.

Malone: You said you wanted

Malone: You said you wanted to get Capone.
Do you really wanna get him? You see what I'm saying is, what are you prepared
to do?
Ness: Everything within
the law.
Malone: And
then what are you prepared
to do? If you open the ball on these people, Mr. Ness, you must be prepared to
go all the way. Because they won't give up the fight, until one of you is dead.

Ness: I want to get Capone! I
don't know how to get him.
Malone: You wanna know how to get Capone? Here's how you get him. They
pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send
one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way! And that's how you get Capone. Now do you want to do that? Are you ready to do
that? I'm making you a deal. Do you want this deal?
Ness: I have sworn to put this man away with any and all
legal means at my disposal and I will do so.

From The Untouchables

 

Funny that Connery calls it 'The Chicago way.' Great quote from a great movie.

 

"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."

Padmé Amidala, Revenge of the Sith

I don't know if we "have to"

I don't know if we "have to" or "ought to", but I suspect many will eventually descend to the level of Liberals.  That acutally is "the same old trap", you know, the one that ends in a conflagration.  But the Liberals have been pushing everyone so long and are pushing so hard, its difficult to see any way around that eventual outcome.

Wow

This really trips me out.Here this 10/11 year old gets slimed by some posters on a site.Yet some are bringing up about her wearing a peace sign?Do you really thinks she understands the significance of it?Or because Sara's kids were target of some left wing septic sippers that it is ok if the same is done against the kids of the left.Frelling amazing. 

Leave kids alone

Lets not sink to the lefts level

Leave kids alone

"Don't let the bastards grind you down."

 

Red

I agree.  The high road is

I agree.  The high road is the way to go.

It's not so much the peace

It's not so much the peace sign as it is the overall impression. The peace sign is  political symbol that references back to anti-war, anti-government messages in the 1970's. It is therefore inappropriate for the child of our president to wear in a public, political forum.

Additionally, the entire picture is declasse. Who travels on *official* excursions in shorts, a Tshirt and sunglasses?  It is tactless and it is indication that Obama wants it both ways. He wants his girls to be part of the excitement that few children ever get the opportunity to experience, and yet he does not require them to pay the price, by dressing appropriately. He wants to drag them to places where they will be scrutinized and photographed, and yet he doesn't want anyone to infer anything negative about them. It doesn't work that way. Maybe once upon a time, but the rules have been rewritten by the Palin vultures.

The child's outfit would have been perfectly fine on a beach or playing in the lawn, but not for presenting the face of America to another country. 

Regardless, stereotypical jokes are inappropriate under any circumstances.

"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt

It is tactless and it is

It is tactless and it is indication that Obama wants it both ways

Indeed.

After the tacky "gifts" Obama gave to the British PM and family, I can;t say that I'm surprised.  It's amateur hour at the White House.  I don't mean just Obama either.  He's supposed to have knowledgable people on his staff to advise him on these things.  Obviously, they are idiots too.

 

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

It's amateur hour at the

It's amateur hour at the White House.

Free, you got THAT right. And I'm with you and some others here. This is not about open-season-on-kids. This is Obama's own child/daughter wearing a t-shirt with a political symbol on it... and out in a crowd doing this, on some city street, no less. What do people not understand here?

And with that said, PLEASE, reverse it, everyone. Imagine for *one moment* Palin's -- or worse, Bush's -- daughter(s) wearing something with a politically-provocative image on it.

Really. Think for a moment. AND, I think many of us would even side with them that this would just be a clear example of their (the parents, who are politicians) irresponsibility.

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

Yep.  You nailed it. 

Yep.  You nailed it.  :-)

Yes!

"And with that said, PLEASE, reverse it, everyone. Imagine for *one
moment* Palin's -- or worse, Bush's -- daughter(s) wearing something
with a politically-provocative image on it."

Imagine if Willow Palin had been seen at that Yankee game sporting a T-shirt that said "Choose Life" -- they would still be foaming at their collective mouths about it!

 

cajuncocoa

"Imagine if Willow Palin had been seen at that Yankee game sporting a T-shirt that said "Choose Life"

Good grief. I don't even want to go there. If a Republican wore ANYTHING other than marine blue or black or white (or any basic, straight color) -- if they even hinted at anything risque clothing-wise -- they would not hear the end of it.

(D) politicians, their family, friends, all of them, can really wear anything, say anything, do pretty much anything... and it's all in line with their "ideology". Moral equivalence, zero-individual responsibility, etc..

Meanwhile, they're up the wazzoo with constantly setting rigid stereotypical standards for conservatives. When we meet those standards/stereotypes, we're ridiculed. When we don't, we're ridiculed X 10.

Fudging hypocrite, double-standard Dems/liberals. The lot of them. :p

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

Mrshy! My buddy.

  Don't forget the original BBC article. She wore 2 different t-shirts with the symbol. Her mother was with her in the second picture with the 2nd t-shirt. The BBC saw the irony shortly after her father signed on with the Russians to reduce nuclear weapons.

  This is stupid on a scale that matches the air force one flyby in New York. She has an entourage around her including her mother that should have piped in and said hey, maybe this is not such a bright idea.

  When you gonna approve my buddy request buddy?

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

double

post..... sorry.

 

JWF

Buddy requesting on NB bites (sorry, admins :p) As it often doesn't alert me, or alerts me once and I miss it, and I can't find it, or or... I don't know. You're not the first to do this and me not know.

Try again, perhaps, sorry, or I'll request you.

- - - - - 

EDIT: I found your request, buried a bit on my account page, and hit "approve". Let me know :)

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

Look on the far right of every page

  Newsbusted link

  Commercial link * (Old School Reagan shirt currently)

  My Inbox

  My buddylist (click here then click on pending requests) 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Mazzi - you said it best! Thanks for stating my thoughts

in a clear, concise manner.  Guess I was too caught up with personal thoughts and memories when I was posting.

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Right Wing Radical Extremist!     It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

Wow

A. It is not a peace sign. RMP. Read my posts.

B. Posters at this site did not slime her. Posters at FreeRepublic did.

C. It matters not whether she understood it. Her partisan political parents should have.

D. Who is defending septic sippers on the right here?

E. Thanks for the farscape term. Glad to see another fan. That said, you are full of boll-yatz ya shliznat. 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

wow

RMP 

A.It sure looks it to me

B.I didnt say posters at this site did.

C.This isnt about her parents it is about her.

D.I'll break it down because the left does it doesnt make it right to do.As it has been stated by some.

E.May you be up to your ears in frelnik you greebol.

 

Have we met?

  I took the time out of my busy day to research the history on this symbol and posted and linked to the history here -

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/07/12/msnbcs-shuster-report-freepers-bashing-obamas-daughter#comment-974260

   I then tell you to read what I have written as it is not a peace sign. What do I get in response? An Argument Ad Nauseam. It sure looks it to me. All you do is repeat the same statement as before.

  So thanks for yelling past me. I think this takes the steam out of your argument that the right should not engage in the same tactics as the left. You are certainly engaging in leftist tactics here.

  Does anyone know who this well99 person is?

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Well

 "I think this takes the steam out of your argument that the right should not engage in the same tactics as the left. You are certainly engaging in leftist tactics here."

You can lie all you want but it doesnt change anything.If you feel the need to be just like the Kos Kids be my guest.They get a sense of false superiority attacking little kids.Like the Palins.It is a free country blather on. 

Who lied?

  Who lied? I posted an article that states the exact history of this symbol. You have refused to point out how this history is somehow false.

  You keep walking down this road. Now you are calling me a liar. 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Did you read the post?

Try again.Maybe it will sink in.Notice the "Your Statement " and then my comment below.

What are you talking about? And stop typing like a little child.

 We are adults here. We put a space after a sentence so everythingwillnotruntogether. You took 12 years of english the same as the rest of us. Act like some of it sunk in.

Let me sum up.

Well99: are bringing up about her wearing a peace sign

JWF: It is not a peace sign. RMP. Read my posts.  

well99:  It sure looks it to me

JWF: I took the time out of my busy day to research the history on this symbol and posted and linked to the history...  I then tell you to read what I have written as it is not a peace sign. What do I get in response? An Argument Ad Nauseam.

well99: You can lie all you want...

JWF: Who lied? I posted an article that states the exact history of this symbol.

well99: Notice the "Your Statement " and then my comment below.

 Notice what? Do you have problems with common English? What "Your Statement"? No one this page said "Your Statement". I did a search. The very first time the quote "Your Statement" was made was from you quoting god knows who with your "Your Statement" quote trying to attribute it to me.

Were you in fact trying to refer to this? -

"I think this takes the steam out of your argument that the right should not engage in the same tactics as the left. You are certainly engaging in leftist tactics here."

 That statement is my big lie now is it? That was my big lie? First you come in with the Argumentum Ad Infinitum and then Misdirection and now it appears to be Argument by Gibberish with your "Your Statement" nonsensical quote. All classic tactics of the left. Mr. Expert at the Kos Kids.

 All so you don't have to state in clear common english that all can understand why that symbol is just a "peace sign" and nothing more. See that, that is how "quotes work".

  Look. I put a space after every period. Looks like that 12 years of taxpayer money paid off.

  All this so an anonymous poster at NewsBusters can show some rightous indignation that other anonymous posters at NewsBusters don't show rightous indignation at anonymous posters on another website.

  Will someone tell me who this well99 person is.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

JWF

Did you want some cheese with that whine?You need to take a timeout.

All right Mr. Righteous Indignation.

  Who needs a timeout? Last guy I read about that worried so much about someone elses kids is doing a long stretch at Joliet.

well99 -

I dont care whose kids.Leave them the flock alone!...

You can say all you want about Obama but attacking kids is bs.The kids arent the ones attacking each other.So why attack them.You want to vent well there are plenty of adults to hammer.

...It was Letterman and other losers that attacked Sara's kids....

....Didnt do any good with those punks either.See only a punk attacks kids.

...It is about kids.People got mad at the sick comments about Sara kids.Myself included.So why are twisted comments about Obama's kid ok?

...Or because Sara's kids were target of some left wing septic sippers it is ok if the same is done against the kids of the left.

...They get a sense of false superiority attacking little kids.

They attacked Palins kids and not just by some poster on a blog.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Wow

Spiffy comment.Gee go to one of the blogs on attacks on Sara's kids.You will see alot of multi postings on it by people.Some folks dont believe kids should be the target of politcal attacks.It is something you wont understand.

Enough already. We get it. You heart the kids.

   Now why don't you go build EverEverland to show us how much you heart the kids, Michael.

  Hey everyone, I am going to do an impression, tell me who I am - kids. kids. other peoples kids. kids. kids. kids. Sarahs kids. kids. kids. kids. Jerrys kids. kids. kids. kids. kids. kids. kids. kids. kids. kids. kids. kids. kids. kids. kids.

   Seriously, creepyman, stop it. Grown men do not act this way.

JWF

What the hell would you know about a grown man JWGacy.It was a grown man probably like you that murdered my niece you fucking punk.

Oh did I offend the anonymous poster that can make up anything?

   Now I am supposed to be emotionally blackmailed because you throw out some completely unprovable statement about a niece?

  Suddenly Mr. cheese with that whine is offended?

  I am now to break down in tears because the guy that refuses to actually back up something he said now throws out some emotional baggage for all to see?

  I ask you one more time. Show me how that symbol is just a peace sign and not offensive to millions. You know, like I asked to 17 posts ago. You know, before and after you called me a liar. You know, before you thought it was funny to be a dismissive needler.

 Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Gentlemen, if I may

Would you mind continuing your disagreement in The Woodshed, please?

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Thanks for the links, JWF! You did good!

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Domestic Right Wing Terrorist!     It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

What goes around comes around indeed

There was a time (a mere few weeks ago, to be exact) when I would have agreed that children should be off-limits.  The reaction to and treatment of Sarah Palin's children has changed my mind.

We can't win if we're playing by a different set of rules.  If you think being nice to the Obama children is going to stop attacks on Sarah's (or some other conservative's children) you've got another thought coming!  

Time to take off the gloves and stop playing nicey-nice.  Our opponents are making good use of the "Rules for Radicals."  It's time to pick up a copy and start playing the Alinsky game. 

 

cajuncocoa

Sign me up, cajun.

The 11 year old daughter of the Commander In Chief wears a "Peace Symbol" tee shirt in a foreign country, then parades around in public in shorty shorts with some blinged up hip-hop gangsta, and Conservatives are not allowed to counter punch?

This is a declaration of war by Dems and the MSM.

Challenge accepted!

All you left fools

So it took a another conservative blog about one of your own to finally understand what it is like to be Sara Palin and family for A DAY. Liberal hypocrites, tasteless comments sure, but if taken in the proper text as tit for tat, totally unpleasant isn't it if it happens to anyone, right or left. Grow up and have the same spine to tell your own kind enough is enough and start to bring civility back to the democratic party and liberal left.

I wonder how many of those

I wonder how many of those comments at Free Republic were made by "plants" ?

~Exactly

Gee, that could be a problem, huh? Who knew.

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

On the subject of Plants

There are many plants on the Internet.  Some post on websites and blogs.  Some even start ''Conservative'' blogs to acquire information on people who post there.

Even the most cursory research into the organizations and tactics that the Left have used these past few decades will show that infiltration is one of the most used, and successful, way to destroy their enemy - Us.  Well, a good number of Us.  The rest - and you know who you are (as do the more attentive readers) - are the ones who ''seem fair yet feel foul''.  Not unlike Hussein.

And I'm not talking about the obvious Leftist posters.  The Thread Derailers, The Rabble Rousers, and The Contrarians. They are obviously Lefty volunteers (the best ones get paid by some Soros or Hussein org) and can never be taken seriously. No, I'm talking about the posters on websites that go along and rarely trip themselves up. But, when they do trip up, they are as obvious as a Socialist in the current administration.

Hey teacher, leave those kids alone.

  I think the leave the kids alone movement is missing a few points. Look at the original article from the BBC (Noel linked to it).

 

Miss Obama's peacenik T-shirt sends a message to G8 leaders

Her father had just won agreement from the Russians to cut back on the world's stockpiles of nuclear weapons.

And Barack Obama's eldest daughter was obviously keen to make her own statement on the issue - even if it was merely a fashion statement.

Just 48 hours after the U.S. President signed agreements with Russian president Dmitry Medvedev to reduce weapon stores, 11-year-old Malia Obama was spotted wearing not one, but two T-shirts with an anti-nuclear message.

   2 T-shirts people. She did it twice. She was with her mother in the second picture.

   She was keen on sending a message to us goobs that don't believe in giving in to the Russians most especially when we get nothing out of it. This is the actions of an 11 year old with no political intentions?

   No one is condoning nasty comments by anonymous posters at another website. Anonymous posters that could be left wing plants by the way. This is a common tactic of the left. They come here to do it constantly.

  MSNBC wants to report on a decadal event. Nasty comments on the children of public parents on a right wing website. MSNBC ignores the daily example of such nastiness on left wing websites.

  Now we don't condone punching hippies here. We just understand why mr. hand turns into mr. fist. 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

This is the actions ...

... of an 11 year old with no political intentions?

She's most likely being used by the Obama political machine.  But that doen't matter to me now. By the left's standards, if Team Obama is going to use her, she's fair game.   No apologies, no retreat, no surrender.

Until the Left accords the Palin

children the same protection they think the Obama girls should have, they can go f*** themselves.  They accuse the Right of whining and they're comparing a blog's nasty cmments to comments routinely made on national TV and in national publications.

People display

Symbols to communicate a message. Any type of communication will naturally evoke feedback--postive and/or negative. This is especially true of controversial symbols. It is possible, even probable, that an 11 year-old child doesn't fully understand this--but her parents do.

It is shameful and irresponsible for parents  to use their children as signposts for their political agenda. They should know better. It is not appropriate to make offensive comments about the child. But is IS appropriate to criticize the symbol, the underlying agenda and the parents.

"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." - General George Patton Jr

You know that shirt was not purchased by the daughter.

Probably purchased by Michelle's chief manipulator-in-charge...Desiree.  Guess they figured J Crew wasn't necessary anymore...This is definitely a statement by those who have dissed America more in the past two years than I've ever heard from a presidential candidate or wife.

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Right Wing Radical Extremist!     It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

Under most circumstances I

Under most circumstances I would agree with the "children are off limits" position.  However, once the KOSsacks, DUers, Huff'n'puffers, and alleged people like Letterman and Wonkette start in on the children of the right, then the children of the left are also fair game.

If you are playing poker, and you are the only player playing according to Hoyle, you are going to lose.  When the American Communists start condemning such behavior from their side, then they will have a right to condemn such behavior from the right.  Until then, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. (I kinda like that cliche.  And it is most fitting for this occasion.) 

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

HMMMM

 

Does she understand that her Dada is runing a war?????

 

Remember the famous words of the "O"? If my kids screw arround and get knocked up I wouldn't want them to be straped with raising a kid. And "God" forbid I or M might have to raise it!!!!!! 

(Post edited by management for offensive content.)

~People are watching

 It's just a shame his mother didn't have an abortion.  

That's a nasty thing to say, worthy of being posted on Kos or DU. 

 Ironic isn't it? Mostly black babies get thrown out with the trash!

Ironic? Not in the 60's. And it isn't 'most', it's roughly half. Which is still a horrifying statistic that is too serious to be so flippantly referred to.

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Rick, Nice man. 

Rick,

Nice man.  Classy. 

It's sad that this is the type of rhetoric that is coming to define the far right movement in America.

Losing the election has really allowed your true colors to shine.  It's a shame. 

Cacci

"It's sad that this is the type of rhetoric that is coming to define the far right movement in America."

That is hogwash.Your trying to define the right by a few post.As is the msm.That is bs.Words have meaning but yours are like fluff in the wind.They blow.

"Losing the election has really allowed your true colors to shine.  It's a shame."

The lefts true colors have shown even after winning.They attacked Palins kids and not just by some poster on a blog.Why because they are petty self serveing septic sipping sewage wallowers. 

rick

rick,

This is disgraceful and uncalled for. Please cease and desist immediately.  ns

Hmmmmm

I'm betting Rick is another one  of those Kos or DU plants.

~Actually

That dishonor belongs to beauxdog and bubbaster.

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Watch what happens if Piper

Watch what happens if Piper Palin goes out in public with a "Jesus Saves" t-shirt on.

 

The left will go into full attack mode.

 

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

Unfortunately, FS you are totally correct.

The I've just had to stop reading the news lately as it is the most depressing thing I have experienced since Jimmy Carter's term & Bill Clinton's election. 

God bless you good guys here on NBs...

 

The argument that has been

The argument that has been used before. If you want your daughters to be off limits, then dont take them on political junkets and allow them to wear t-shirts with unversally acknowledged political slogans. Ecspecially when the topic of said meetings relates directly to slogan on t-shirt. That said, I think the childeren of politicians should be off limits. But if you want them to stay off limits then you need to not involve them. You cant involve them a little, then put them away again. The hypocrytical outrage over this is also pathetic compared to the CONTINUED bashing of Palin. And of course the timing is impeccable Bill Clinton style "Look at this hand, while I steal your wallet with this one".

I agree with you, Snappy. My

I agree with you, Snappy. My only problem here are the adults who likely encouraged an 11 year-old to basically parade around in the T-shirt, making a statement for them

Im reserving judgment on the

Im reserving judgment on the adults.... I still havnt decieded whether they intentionally are having her wear that stuff while daddy is negotiating...errr apologizing for America, or they are just too stupid and caught up their own affairs to realize what she is wearing..... I am leaning on too stupid when put into perspective with the administration and gaffes as a whole.

according the liberal media logic....

according the liberal media logic that was used to bash the Palin daughters, that Sarah Palin made them targets by bringing them on stage, and making them political issue, Obama's daughters fall into the same category. Many called Palin's daughters fair game because they were paraded on stage, "used as props", did interviews, or were on the cover of magazines....

Malia is  outting herself in the middle of a political debate, according to the reports, by wearing this t-shirt, taking sides on a muclear arms debate, thus choosing to make herself a political target.

"Just 48 hours after the U.S. President signed agreements with Russian president Dmitry Medvedev to reduce weapon stores, 11-year-old Malia Obama was spotted wearing not one, but two T-shirts with an anti-nuclear message. She wore the tops emblazoned with the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament's famous logo as her father prepared for three days of G8 talks in Italy."

This was the logic used to attack Palin's kids....but now it is not ok for Obama's daughter? Shocker!

http://tinyurl.com/nwv6ab

Personally, I think she just wore the peace tees because kids like the symbol. And I do NOT think the comments are appropriate, nor do I think they are fair game. But, the libs can't have it both ways. Either Malia is now fair game, based on their logic, or they admit they are wrong to have attacked the Palin kids - and they back the hell off.

 

Newsbusters

Newsbusters Unhinged!

Whoa Obama Derangement Syndrome in full swing. You all need to take a deep breath and think about what you are writing about.

Complaining that the guy with her is gangsta (obviously secret service)? Pointing out that an 11 year old girl isn't wearing a bra (soooo creepy)? Commenting about how she isn't cute (tsk tsk petty petty)? 

It's getting crazy around here.

If that guy is Secret Service (and I have my doubts)...

...then it raises a more troubling question:

Why is my government using my tax dollars to essentially promote what is in all reality a hideously destructive lifestyle.

I live in the Atlanta area, and I see the results of the "gangsta" mentality pretty much daily. I don't think it is the propper role of government to be promoting it.

-Dave

"Obama's health care 'reform' plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof." - Herman Cain

I wonder if he has a gold

I wonder if he has a gold tooth

Neither do I

Neither do I Dave.

...this country has sunk so low in so many ways.

I hope the silent majority isn't going to stay so silent anymore...it get's us nowhere.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

  Those comments were

 
Those comments were pretty disgusting and uncalled for, but anyone can cherrypick a comments section at just about any blog left or right and find some fairly disgusting stuff. This is no more outrageous than anything I've read on the left concerning the passing of Snow, Heston or about Sarah Palin and her children. However the difference I'll note is that on the right it's the exception not the norm and most conservatives will call out and criticize a fellow poster for disparaging comments, where on the left it seems this behavoir is not only applauded, but encouraged.

 However being Shuster will do a report on it, that means about two people will actually see it.

 

 

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."   

Why is it that when a few

Why is it that when a few toxic comments appear on right wing sites, you all say it's just a few bad apples, but when it's a left wing site, you use them to paint the entire site in a bad light?

Pretty convenient. 

PS those comments are the norm on the right.  Check out Little Green Footballs if you don't agree.

"PS those comments are the

"PS those comments are the norm on the right.  Check out Little Green Footballs if you don't agree.

 

LGF isn't a conservative site, Charles Johnson is a lefty who was shellshocked by 9-11. He hates religion, the tea partys and Sarah Palin. He's about as far right as Chris Hitchens or Andrew Sullivan. When not attacking conservatives the guy doesn't have a whole lot to talk about these days.

 Before wagging your finger at us, maybe you should go preach ettiquette over at D.U. or Kos, clean up your own house first, Jus' sayin'.

 

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."   

Well said, Blazer

:-)

-Dave

"Obama's health care 'reform' plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof." - Herman Cain

~Norm?

What do you know about norms, Leon?

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Quantity. If 5 comments of

Why is it that when a few toxic comments appear on right wing sites,
you all say it's just a few bad apples, but when it's a left wing site,
you use them to paint the entire site in a bad light?

Quantity. If 5 comments of 150 are vile that is a nasty anomaly. If 95 comments of 150 are vile, that is a nasty trend.

Now, go pick a thread in KOS, and count the personal attacks (if you can figure out what a personal attack is - most libs have trouble with that concept.) I guarantee you that somewhere between 1/2 and 3/4 of the posts are off topic, vitriol filled rants against a specific conservative figure.

But I imagine this too will go :::whoooooosh::: right over your head.

"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt

This was an unscientific

This was an unscientific study published in the Weekly Standard a couple of years ago. I thnk it says it all.

www.pottymouth.com

This may or may not come as a surprise, but there's more profanity on "The Internets" than in traditional media. Lots more.

The enterprising blogger Patrick Ishmael  (newsbuckit.blogspot.com) did an, excuse the pun, quick and dirty analysis of the ideological divide in online trash-talking. Make that, ideological chasm. He did a Google search for comedian George Carlin's famous "seven dirty words" on popular lefty and righty blogs. Lefty Daily Kos took top honors with 146,000 pages containing one or more of the words in question. Its lefty competitor, The Huffington Post, was close behind with 109,000. No right-wing site reached even 10,000 on the Carlin scale.

A commenter at the site refined the methodology to account for overall site size, finding a "'7 words' to pages" ratio of "1 profanity every 2 pages" for Daily Kos and "1 every 121 pages" for the Free Republic ("the foulest" of the righty sites). The study "isn't scien tific," Ishmael warns, "but hey, it's pretty @*%#$&! close."

The Carlin Scale

That's gooooood!

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Hey Chachie

Hey Chachie,

when the rare aweful remark pops up here, we get the poster banned.  Cases in point: seejay and seano53

PS those comments are the

PS those comments are the norm on the right.

Really?

This is a "right" site. Are those type of foul comments the norm here?

Obama Lied... Jobs Died.

The Vancouver writer is a Kos kook

Hollywoodoz is his persona.   http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/9/10324/92702... on Fr, a longer dossier of his wrtings have been arranged.

For those that think it's "just a peace sign"....

... on a t-shirt, on a girl, read this:

http://weblogs.newsd...

This is even written by what I gather to be a liberal/Democrat. Read the first paragraphs. She herself calmly concedes:

    Malia Obama is getting into the political arena without uttering a word. Instead, she’s letting fashion do her talking.

    Just a couple of days after President Barack Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedevagreed to cut back on nuclear weapons, the 11-year-old was spotted in Italy wearing two T-shirts that blared anti-nuclear sentiments.

    As the president readied for the G-8 talks there,Malia turned out in a gray T-shirt bearing the famous Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament’s peace sign logo during a visit to the Coliseum in Rome.

AMAZING. And here many of us are saying, "hey, leave the kids out of it", when this is not just a political statement on a shirt -- 2 shirts, mind you, bought at different times that day! -- but with the timing, and done on foreign land, you could venture to theorize there's maybe some calculation behind this.

This is no Palin's-kids thing at ALL. Yes, we should not attack Malia herself, obviously, but the incident is unprecedented and is a frightful indication of just how blase', thoughtless (or perhaps, thoughtFUL), and very far to the left our current president and leader of the free world is. 

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

The so called "Peace Sign"

The so called "Peace Sign" has the Neronic Cross, the anti-Christian symbol denoting the upside down cruxifiction of St. Peter and persecution of the Christians by Nero.   Also, the Bolsheviks painted the same Broken Cross on closed churches after their communist revolution.  In addition, reportedly, Satanists use this symbol to initiate members, where they draw a circle, turn a cross upside down, and break it.

Ten7s

You are correct.

The sign was worn by radicals in the 60's who protested the VietNam war.

The kids in the street called it a peace sign BUT they were being used by the Communists in this country.

They had no idea of the real meaning behing the symbol.

Ten7s, Symbols have a

Ten7s,

Symbols have a meaning within a cultural or temporal context. Trying to link the modern day use of the peace symbol with the things you mention is, I think, a bit of a stretch.

Consider the swastika. That symbol has been used by many cultures during different time periods for reasons that have nothing to do with Nazism.

But by your argument, if a skinhead tattoos a swastika on his arm, he's actually paying homage to a sun god or the four winds or the wandering Hopi clan - since that symbol was used for all those things long before the Nazis adopted it.

When I read "many

When I read "many cultures", I know that something vague and less than enlightening is about to follow.  Symbols like almost all things have a history.

The Nazis recieved the Swastika from the New Age "Theosophy Society", "List Society" and "Thurle", which flourished in post WWI Germany and became part of the occult religion and pagan ritual of Nazism.  In fact, those New Age style groups did adopt the Swastika from eastern religion.

The "Peace Sign" derived from Roman Emperor Nero's persecution of Christians, was adopted by Bolshevik Communists during their persecution of Christians, was incorporated by a Communist Fellow-Traveler from the UK, and has been widely embraced by "Useful Idiot" American Liberals. 

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Ten7s, Thanks for the

Ten7s,

Thanks for the condescending opening comment.

I guess I should ask what the point of your post to MrShy was.

Was it to simply give a little history lesson on the "peace sign"? If so, then OK. Um, thanks.

Or was it to imply that people who use or display that symbol do so with the intent of expressing anti-Christian (perhaps even Satanic) views, based on the fact that that's how the symbol was used by some in the past.

If you didn't mean to imply this, then I misinterpreted your post.

If you did, then I think my point to you is still valid - or, at least, you didn't address it.

My point was simply that the historical uses of a symbol aren't necessarily taken into account by those who use it at some later point in time or within some other cultural context.

(Oops, there's that word again.)

My disdain is not for you,

My disdain is not for you, but for the bleary-eyed reasoning of 'Critical Theory' and its offspring 'Postmodernism', which pervade the internet like a thick, dark, greasy cloud.

If you're saying that Obama's girl didn't understand what she was wearing, I agree.  But her parents should have.

Ten7s, I kinda figured

Ten7s,

I kinda figured there was some form of misunderstanding going on.

And for the record, I work in science and I always get a big smile on my face whenever I hear Alan Sokal's name mentioned.

That tells you what I think of postmodernism.

Thanks for reminding me

Thanks for reminding me of Alan Sokal, that was classic, absolutely priceless. 

Sorry Ten7s

   It is a representation of the semaphore flag signals N and D for Nuclear Disarmament.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_symbols

I'm aware of that cover story, but that's all it is

Please tell me you're joking and don't really consider wikipedia authoritative.

 

Yes. Wikipedia is the authority...

  ... on the visual representation of the semphore flag signals N, D, B, F, and R. But they badly botch S & P.

  What the hell is the problem here? I linked for the picture it contained of the semaphore flag signals. Not every little thing has to be a lie on wikipedia.

  Is the entry on morse code a big fat lie too? 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

False Comparisons

The liberals very purposely equate posts from an anonymous commenter on a right-wing site with real articles from journalists or diarists on left-wing sites including real magazines. Some of the bile spewed on what was once a respectable magazine like The Atlantic for example are comparable only to anonymous comments on right-wing sites. Even at that, the bilious comments on the right-wing site might not survive the day.

This is a false comparison done by the left-wing desperate to excuse their extremist philosophy and tactics.

According to the Liberal Media Elitists such as Sally Quinn

The child of a politician becomes "fair game" when that child makes a political statement and when the politician makes a point to bring that child's name into political discussion. Malia fits both discriptions as she deliberately made a political statement with her choice of clothes and Obama mentioned her twice on his foreign trip, once in an interview and once during a speech.

These are the rules/excuses the media elitists used when they savaged Palin's family. Comes around goes around.

As far as FreeRepublic is concerned, I'll see you a FreeRepublic and raise you a Democratic Undergound; a DailyKos and a Huffington Post.

My Sentiments Exactly.

How fair would a baseball game be if one side was allowed to swing away while the other side could only bunt.

Both sides should be playing by the same set of rules. This is why the Republican Party is in the shape it's in. They always capitulate while the Democrats refuse to do so.

I'm not going to sit on my hands while the leftist media takes cheap shots at Sarah Palin's kids and I'm not going to castigate anybody that replies in kind.

I am sure Malia thought it was cool.

My 14 yr olds didn't recognize it for what other than 'a peace sign'.  My fashionista daughter thought it was 'cute'.  No more or less so than Snoopy, Tinkerbell or Hello Kitty.  On any other kid from America this t-shirt would be unseen and uncommented on.

On the other hand - whomever used this child as a political billboard should be fired.  Its just trolling for attention this child does not deserve.

___________________________________________ 
Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984

I don't care one whit about this kid

but she is NOT dressed the way the daughter of a US President should be dressed.

She looks fine for play but she is in a foreign country and even if she and her parents don't like it, she represents the United States.

Then again I see how her mother dresses and gulp, poor kid! No class, No grace, and NO sense of style!

I thought the Carter's were bad?

We can no longer afford...

...to bring our knives to a gun fight.

As I said earlier, our opponents are playing by a different set of rules -- specifically, Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.

see:  http://www.vcn.bc.ca...


Rule 4:
Make opponents live up to their own book of rules. “You can kill them
with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian
church can live up to Christianity.”

If the Left's Hollywood pals -- and their sycophants in the media -- insist on viciously ridiculing the Palin children, then don't expect apologies when some guy/gal on Free Republic trashes Malia Obama.  The Left made their own "book of rules",  now they will have to live by them.

I have no intention of making apologies or excuses for anyone's comment about said picture.  The Left has it coming...too bad if Malia Obama gets caught in the collateral damage.  No retreat, no surrender. 

Yeah!!!

"I have no intention of making apologies or excuses for anyone's comment about said picture.  The Left has it coming...too bad if Malia Obama gets caught in the collateral damage.  No retreat, no surrender."

 

Well stated cajuncocoa.

Stealth and Subterfuge

...as you might imagine, the Freepers are up in arms about this revelation.

That's very understandable. Imagine if it were NewsBusters being attacked.

We should all chip in, and

We should all chip in, and send the Obammas the DVDs on What not to wear, and  the book Presidency for Dummies

kangaroo

"Presidency for Dummies"

Isnt that one of the books Obama wrote?

Carter most likely helped

Carter most likely helped co-wite it.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

BT

Wasnt there a movie about it?I think it was called Dumb and Dumber.

w99... LOL...yeah and one

w99...

LOL...yeah and one of the leftist idiots got a Nobel Peace Prize...and the other one is working on it....and with time he too will receive one...you can bank on it.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

BT

Sad but true.Pretty pathetic in my book.Nobel prize is a joke anymore.

LOL

LOL

Re Bamster's Books

That reminds me: Obama's Books Banned from US Prisons - Too Radical: http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com

So should be ballots with his name on them.

sw - those ballots with his name on them have a STRONG

probability (if they have a check by his name, to be the result of criminal ACORN activity!  Loved hearing that 'the one's' books are banned - wonder if books by his buddy, Bill Ayers, are also banned ;-)

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Right Wing Radical Extremist!     It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

Obama's next book?

Coming to a bookstore near you:

Peace Be Upon Her

So typical of libtard DNC media...

First, I had no idea this Schuster pinhead is a part of the Daily Kook, one of the biggest hate sites out there this side of RATunderground.com and says nothing about all the hate (and threats) that his fellow libtard mouth breathing troglodytes spew over there.

Second, I would not put it past said libtards to sabatoge FREEP with hate comments on Obama and/or his family. Time and time again it has been proven that the modern Moveonmoonbat.org left is full of unrelenting hate for Conservatives and the Conservative movement. They will stop at nothing. We must stop them in 2010 and 2012. 

"First, I had no idea this

"First, I had no idea this Schuster pinhead is a part of the Daily Kook, one of the biggest hate sites out there"

A hate site that threw a convention that every Democrat presidential candidate but one attended.

 

I just got done reading the

I just got done reading the update at Freepers....some very interesting stuff...very interesting indeed...you can bet msnbc will do their best to omit this...but the word is getting around now...big time.

I really enjoyed reading a lot of the posts too...here is the link again if you haven't been there and want to read all the inside info of what they have uncovered.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

bt - thanks for the link but I found it very difficult to follow

I like our format much better ;-)

All of this c*r*a*p sounds like it originated or at least was encouraged by those participating in the infamous Wednesday morning conference calls!  I cannot believe how disgusting some people can be.  I refuse to even visit the DK or HP - don't want to have my brain forever scarred by the hate.  It's bad enough how I feel about the leaders of our country not appreciating or loving our country...don't know if I could take reading tripe such as has been shown here as examples of postings.

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Right Wing Radical Extremist!     It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

CC... I agree, the format

CC...

I agree, the format NBs has here is one of the best IMO.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Yep me too

Love to respond directly to the offending poster, quite contrary for you too. : ]

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

~Hypocrite

The same thing was happening here and you attacked me repeatedly and you attacked rexdraconim for exposing it. Either admit you were an ass or STFU about enjoying the inside info on the Freepers plot. Want me to copy every single one of your snide remarks and putdowns about what was uncovered on NB?

Signed, 

"Nancy Drew"

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

choselife3x,I've been

choselife3x,

I've been coming here for many moons, but don't post too often. I missed this expose you did on these liberal plants that were hiding their true indentity and motives here on NBs.

Let me say, after reading the links you provided, you did an outstanding job of showing these lib hacks for who they were! Nice Job! I was also delighted to see that the FR also did some mighty fine detective work to uncover this "Freepers bashing Obama;s Daughter" plot...NOT!

This should be a lesson to us all of the importance to root these leftist plants and their deceptions from our midst!

 

 

~Thank you

That means a great deal to me. I will pass your words on to rexdraconim as well.

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Chose,  you may not agree

Chose,  you may not agree with BT on everything, or even anything, though I think this highly unlikely, but BT is not a Kossack, liberal plant or spy.  She has been here a long time.  Maybe even longer than I.  I have seen literally years of her posts and have interacted with her over that period on numerous occassions.  I am not buying your line.  You ought to stop selling.  It is unbecoming.

NL... Thank you. Anyone

NL...

Thank you.

Anyone that knows me knows better.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

BT

OMG your a leftist spy!Oh knoes!lmao.I think Rush is too.Got to  keep a eye on you pesky spies : )Waterboarding for everyone. 

w99... LOL...people new

w99...

LOL...people new here should have seen this site long ago and far away, this was the wild wild west for a site when it first started out and I joined not long after they first started the site..NBs has come a long way baby.

Btw...if people here, past and present wouldn't have helped me learn to use the computer after I joined the site, I may still be lost, my gratitude for all of them is immense, and I don't forget...still learning too...from many.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

BT

I can believe it was wild.The first blog I started on was Media Matters.Who turned out to be a bunch of propagandist.Then Huff and Kos Kids and DU.Shoot I needed a steel pot and flak jacket to go on those sites.I really use to get into it.Still pop on just to tick them off.Then I got lucky and found NB.It is a good site.Alot of good people on here.Your one of them.We all may not always agree on everything but at least it is pretty civil compared to most.Shoot I have to watch my language though lol.

w99... Of course we all

w99...

Of course we all don't agree all the time, it wouldn't be interesting nor informative if we did, but the majority of us all can still respect each others differences in opinion and move on and still communicate about other matters we do agree on, which is 95% of the time I would say.

Ain't life grand?

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

BT

Yup.If people would just cut and paste my opinion then everyone would agree 100%.No conceit in my family.I got it all.Have a good week.Time to watch Dutch.

~Anyone that reads links thoroughly

Knows I never accused you of being a leftist. Which you also know and did not bother to correct either NL207 or well99. 

They knocked over a strawman and you thanked them for it. "Past pathetic".

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

~Where did that come from?

I never implied she was. I pointed out that she attacked me and another poster personally for exposing the posters here who were lib plants.

I'm sorry that you completely misunderstood the point of my comment.

 

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Sooooo....

Does this mean we will no longer be seeing anythng of the two Obama girls from now on.  I mean, we can't be PARADING the children around, can we?

I didn't vote for the "wrinkly old guy", I voted for her.

Well, we have a couple that

Well, we have a couple that went to Harvard and Princeton, gotta hurt them as schools, Just sayin

The adult Obamas, imo just don't have the basics in manners, common courtesy, or common sense. Thing is they think the way they conduct themselves is the norm.

Chris Parry eventually came

Chris Parry eventually came onto FR and admitted he was HollywoodOz, while naturally denying that he had any hand in the racist shenanigans. However, there are links to kos posts where he stated that (kos operatives) should go onto conservative sites, post racist comments and pretend to be conservatives. Interesting little turn of events there, eh?

So this just happens and he just happens to stumble upon it innocently. And interestingly all of the most offensive posters were either first time posters, or happened to have registered at FR in 09/08 - at a time when he and others were urging libs to create accounts in case they were ever needed.

And Parry, being the erstwhile reporter at Vancouver Sun, uses his newspaper to bring this scandal to the attention of other media sources. And manages to get the storry written and submitted within 15 minutes of the earliest and most vile posts being posted. That's some mighty fast writing, eh? Oh yes, and one other thing - he conveniently left the screen names off of the most vile comments in his report. Almost as if he had the story written in advance or something, lol. 

 

Here is a simple track to prove that Chris Parry = Hollywood Oz. (Though it's moot now that Parry admitted it, it was fun to see the progression).

1)  kos site for hollywoodoz, in which he claims to own a business called Unreel Media. http://www.dailykos.... (This page is only used to identify him - there is nothing truly offensive on this page, however if you can stomach it, and he has not yet succeeded in cleaning up his more vile posts, I understand there is a lot of nastiness from him on kos.)

2) Scout.com site, where Parry's connection to both unreel media and the blog called notes from the nate are verified: http://athletics.sco...  

Interviewer Notes: Chris Parry is a Canadian-based writer and journalist Unreel Media,
who covers the Northwest League for Oakland Clubhouse. He can be heard
on CJSF 90.1FM Vancouver every Sunday morning from 11am-1pm… as long as
the Canadians aren’t playing at home. He is also the author of a blog
about the Vancouver Canadians called "Notes from the Nat".

3) Technorati site showing that HollywoodOz is Chris Parry, and that he is the owner of the blog called Notes from the Nat. http://technorati.co...

There you have it. It looks simple, but the OP on Free Republic had to do a lot of work to dig up this proof of lefty shenanigans. There could possibly be a lawsuit there, but at the least Chris Parry deserves to be dragged through the mud and have his name tarnished for this.

Proof positive that at least one liberal is trying to race-bait to make conservatives look bad.

So what do you all think? Will Shuster go through with this report? Will he report it and gloss over the fact that Parry is neck deep in it? Or will he report it, and try to twist the outing of Parry into some conservative conspiracy plot?

"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt

Mazzi... Hey thanks, that

Mazzi...

Hey thanks, that has been updated even more since I was last there about three or four hours ago now...what excellent work they did...swiftly too.

Btw....I don't know if you saw what I posted above about what I thought Shuster and msnbc critters will do...omit all they can, but it's really going to be refuted all over the place now, already is on the internet, hope FOX refutes what msnbc does if they go ahead and smear with their typical lying insinuations and all they tripe they spew 24/7.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Well, I understand that

Well, I understand that Freepers were out in droves twittering and facebooking and whatever else they do. I guess our side is FINALLY starting to get the message - we need to fight fire with fire, I don't mean playing dirty - I mean using technology to spread the word as fast and as far as possible. Oh and what the heck - a little bit of dirty fighting is OK, considering our opponents are experts at sucker punches and kidney shots.

I have been saying for the last 6 months - WE are smarter than the liberals. They had an advantage over us with their knowledge of technology, but the smart people on our side have already made great strides in catching up.

I tell everyone I can - Go get a twitter account, go make a facebook - and add every (legitimate) conservative organization you can to your accounts. Get in the network, even if you aren't quite sure what to do beyond that. Every additional person is a little piece of leverage.

We can easily beat these punks at their own game. They caught us off guard, but as I said - we are considerably smarter - that's why we are not liberals! Mwuahahaha....

"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt

Mazzi... Hear!

Mazzi...

Hear! Hear!

I've done some of that already, going elsewhere later too.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

~Fancy that

However, there are links to kos posts where he stated that (kos
operatives) should go onto conservative sites, post racist comments and
pretend to be conservatives.

Really? That actually happens

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Well, of course we know

Well, of course we know that it happens. But the thing here is that it's provable. And it's not just some whacked out libtard - it's a bona fide *cough,cough* journalist.

It won't go anywhere in the msm, they will either ignore it or close ranks around him, but it validates that WE are not paranoid loonies like the left makes us out to be, lol.

"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt

Mazzi... Bingo! ...and

Mazzi...

Bingo!

...and they will try to ignore it as they always do on msnbc when they do this....they just forget the power of the internet and those fighting back!

Plus if this is big by Monday evening regarding the blather from the leftists via television, conservative radio and Fox I bet will cover and defend with the real facts.

Well, I hope so anyway.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

~Real facts?

Like the ones you utterly ignored in order to attack rexdraconim and myself for exposing leftist plants here on NB?

 

Bt... You need to really go back into that tent and smoke some more of
that the Peace Pipe...what happened to your Dr. Phil persona? 


I'm Indian too...you need to relax and admit you were wrong Fat Squaw.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Commenters and bloggers

Commenters and bloggers aren't the same thing...I wonder how many realize that out there in TV land?  Now, if a blogger had said those things, then I can see an issue being made of it and the blogger being called to task.  BOR attacked the Free Republic last year over a thread that was taken completely out of context...just so he could say he was 'fair and balanced' by attacking a conservative forum.

But the gauntlet was thrown down by the Libtards, and not just in the blogosphere...by well-known public personages no less, so I'm a little less offended by such posts and don't blame someone for not treating the little darlings as members of a protected species, still two wrongs don't make a right...but I'm sick of the double-standard.  Children should indeed be left alone...ALL children.

The thing is, these could be trolls as pointed out above.  Even with you having to post your SSN in order to comment on conservative forums like these Commies would like, you could still be a shill.

This stuff is analogous to writing junk on bathroom stall dividers and phone booths.  As long as it's not a death threat or a believable lie that would be libel, these types should be ignored or jumped upon by other members or edited by moderators.  Ultimately the 'ban button' is always available.  But I question some of these site owners and mods when it comes to their interpretation of freedom of speech.

I think that any such anonymous posts need to be taken for what they are.  Obviously, this is just ammunition for jerks like Shuster.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).

jessieH          

jessieH            Cool shirt.             Leave the kids alone!

→ Tiger-Beat w/ D Schuster

Looks like dave has his pulse on the kids beat scene these days.

Nice to know he's evolved a little from his "Pimping out Chelsea" comments.

Looks like the mainstreaming of the Radical Left carrys the day.

   We have the highly visible offspring of the President of the United States wearing the symbol of Nuclear Disarmament 48 hours after her father signs a treaty for a treaty for Nuclear Disarmament denying the United States nuclear defense while dictators and thugs build nuclear weapons for nuclear offense.

   Are we allowed to point out the extreme partisan significance of this?

  No, because some anonymous posters on another site made some nasty comments that leftists pointed out. The left complains, we shut up. All because we have to leave the kids alone

  So let's give the radical left everything they want. Obama wants to pal around with domestic terrorists? Hey, Bill Ayers has kids. Don't want to put their father out of a job. Rev. Wright want to spew marxist rascist rants? Hey, Obama's kids need a pastor. Rush wants Obama to fail? Can't say that because we don't want the father of Obama's kids to look bad. Cap & trade? Universal health care? Regressive taxes? Let the child of a Democrat parade around advocating all of it. Somebody might say something negative somewhere on the planet so all dissent is now shut down.

  Oh, terrorists have kids too. Don't want to make those little vagabonds end up orphans do we? No, let's give in to the terrorists and radical leftists for the children like the good little meeks they want us to be.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars that has been denied ammunition and has been shut up for the kids.

One last thing before I officially cave to the radical left.

   I am glad I am not a Vietnam veteran, only a veteran of a latter  war in addition to the 1000 psychic wars.

  This is yet another slap in the face of Vietnam veterans, the most maligned group a veterans in the history of this country.

 Ok, the orders just came in from meek central. I will now shut up for the kids.

 Before I go, here is the official meek clothing line for the little 'uns. http://www.punkbabyclothes.net/liberal_baby_clothes.html Look at all the fun stuff you can put on your childs chest and the meek can say nothing about it.

* May the fetus you save be a black, gay, wiccan, democrat.

* Liberal

* Annoy a conservative, think for yourself!

* My mommy’s a liberal

* Proud member of the vast liberal conspiracy.

* Your prejudice is your own, don’t blame it on god.

* Proud to be everything, the right wing hates.

* Little tree hugger.

* Only 6,205 days until I get drafted to fight in Iraq.

* When I grow up, I hope to make a difference.

* Feminist in training.

* I love my liberal parents.

* Im still learning my letters, but I already hate W.

* That’s Ms. Liberal tree-hugging, vegetarian, hippie freak; to you buddy.

* My mommy and daddy taught me that bush and dick are dirty words.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

This just in from meek central.

  Turns out the Obama's have a bad habit of dressing their offspring in symbols of the radical left.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/06/sasha-and-malia-obamas-pe_n_155682.html 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Freepers may have some racists but at least they got guts.

How many Veterans are offended by the peace symbol and why? 

 And they are not hiding behind the Please, don't pick on the children skirt.

 Also, me. Count me as one that is offended.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.