UPDATE at end of post: Ziegler discusses incident with John Gibson, Brewer discusses it with tweeters!
MSNBC's Contessa Brewer invited documentarian John Ziegler on her program Wednesday, and got into quite a battle with him over why Sarah Palin should have been at all insulted by David Letterman saying she dresses like a "slutty flight attendant" and her daughter was recently "knocked-up by Alex Rodriguez" during a Yankee game.
Brewer actually didn't think there was anything wrong with Letterman making such comments.
Even better, as the scrum continued, and Ziegler claimed Palin had more class than most people on MSNBC, Brewer got insulted, and called to her producer, "Cut the mike, please" (video embedded below the fold with partial transcript, h/t NBers blonde and bigtimer):
CONTESSA BREWER, MSNBC HOST: And, John Ziegler joins me now. He's a radio host with KGIL, 1260 AM news radio in Los Angeles, and has previously interviewed Palin and others for his film "Media Malpractice: How Obama Got Elected." John, good to see you.
JOHN ZIEGLER: Thanks for having me, always interesting to go out with the people with Barack Obama's official network.
BREWER: Now, I know, you're very critical of the way that journalists in general have dealt with Gov. Palin. I want to ask you today about your interview with Sarah Palin...
ZIEGLER: Gee, I wonder why.
BREWER: So let me begin with, do you want to do the interview? Do you want to talk about this?
ZIEGLER: Yeah, I'd be thrilled to.
BREWER: Let me ask you what Sarah Palin's problem with Letterman was. What was it about the "Top Ten" list that hurt her feelings?
ZIEGLER: Well, I don't know if her feelings were hurt, you'd have to ask her. She called David Letterman "pathetic" which I think was an understatement because not only did he call her "slutty," you left out the part where he also joked about her teenaged daughter being knocked-up by Alex Rodriguez in the middle of Yankee Stadium while she was at the game. By the way, I also happened to ask her about Keith Olbermann blatantly lying about her allegedly plagiarizing a speech which she didn't do. I doubt that that'll come up on this particular network.
BREWER: It was certainly not going to come up other than your mention in this particular interview because I want to ask you about David Letterman and Sarah Palin. But, again, if you'd like to talk about that I'm willing to go forward with the conversation. Yes?
ZIEGLER: I'll talk about whatever you want. Hit me with your best shot.
BREWER: Good. In this case, it's comedy. To talk about her real itinerary in New York, kind of serious. Not really funny. Why did she take such offense? She called him "pathetic," so she obviously took offense. Why was she so offended by David Letterman?
ZIEGLER: Well, Contessa, since you're a female, you might be better expert on whether or not it's appropriate to call a public figure "slutty" with, for no apparent reason, AND joke about her daughter being knocked-up in the middle of Yankee Stadium while she's at the game...
BREWER: Yeah, you know, it's actually happened...
ZIEGLER: How would you feel about that, Contessa?
BREWER: John, it's actually happened to me, and I'm fine, I'm still here, I'm...
ZIEGLER: Really? David Letterman joked about you being slutty...
BREWER: No, not David Letterman...
ZIEGLER: ...and joked about your daughter being knocked-up?
BREWER: ...but it's happened to me publicly.
Makes one wonder if Brewer was referring to her 2005 battle with radio host Don Imus wherein she called him “a cantankerous old fool” who doesn’t know how to relate to “beautiful women.”
Imus responded: “With that fat ass she’s got, she wouldn’t be one of ‘em.” “That skank has to spend three hours with makeup in the morning … Who’s she kidding? . . . Plus, she’s dumber than dirt … Oh, my God, what a pig. But I was willing to cut her some slack and not say anything, you know, until - in fact, I didn’t say anything . . . That’s why they have those big double-doors there at MSNBC, you know, so they can get her fat ass in makeup.”
If this is what Brewer was referring to, it's hardly a fair comparison as she and Imus had history together -- she used to be a newsreader on his show -- and she potentially started the battle.
But I digress, for later in Wednesday's interview with Ziegler, sparks really began to fly:
BREWER: In your interview with Sarah Palin, did you ask her any tough questions, or are you acting now as her spokesman?
ZIEGLER: Yes I did...One of the questions I asked her was whether or not she felt dissed by John McCain when he went on Jay Leno, also on NBC back when he was the host of the "Tonight" show, and basically dissed her. And surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise, she gave an incredibly classy answer, showing far more class than clearly most people on this network have.
BREWER: I don't really know what to do with that. You know, I was, honestly, I'm here to give you an opportunity. I consider myself a common-sense thinker, I haven't attacked you. And for you to come on and use those sort of insults insults me. Thank you so much for your time, I do appreciate that.
ZIEGLER: Okay, well, you folks are certainly deserving of...
BREWER: Much more news ahead, cut the mike, please.
Wow. So Palin shouldn't feel at all insulted by being called "slutty" by David Letterman as well as him claiming her daughter was knocked-up by a baseball player during a game she was attending.
BUT, Brewer was insulted by Ziegler claiming that Palin has more class than most people on MSNBC. Is being told you have less class than a sitting governor more insulting than being called "slutty" or being presented with the visual of your daughter being raped in front of thousands of baseball fans while you're in attendance?
And what of Brewer's prior claim that she had been so verbally attacked and now she's fine and still here?
I guess being called a "fat-ass" and a "skank" isn't as bad as being accused of possessing less class than a prominent conservative woman.
Go figure.
Any questions about the double-standard involving what's acceptable to say about a conservative versus a liberal?
*****Update: Ziegler discussed the incident Wednesday on John Gibson's radio show (audio available here courtesy Johnny Dollar).
Also, Ken Shepherd discovered Brewer's tweets concerning the matter:
# @JTlol Actually, I only asked them to cut the mic after I'd properly thanked the guest. I'd moved on. He was still talking. about 2 hours ago from web in reply to JTlolReally? Maybe she should watch the tape again.
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Hey, Noel, we've been
June 10, 2009 - 12:25 ET by motherbeltHey, Noel, we've been kicking this around in the OT.....glad to see it has a place all its own...it deserves it.
Contessa got schooled! It was hilarious. She knocked Palin for being offended by Letterman, then got all offended herself when Zeigler said Palin had more class than the folks at MSNBC LOL!
(As if that was worse than what Letterman said about Palin and her daughter).
Money quote: I don't know what to do with that.... LMAO!
How do these people keep a straight face spouting this B as in B, S as in S????
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
I sense an end-of-the-year award for media stupidity
June 10, 2009 - 13:36 ET by KC MulvilleThat question is a jaw-dropper: Why was Sarah Palin offended when Letterman said that Alex Rodriguez knocked up her daughter?
David Letterman insults Palin. Palin calls him pathetic. But Brewer characterizes Palin as the inappropriate one? That's got to be a candidate for an end-of-year award for abject stupidity.
Am I insulting Brewer? Nah, it's just comedy.
Just another example
June 10, 2009 - 14:07 ET by Kingfish17This is just another example of how the MSM/GCM will go out of it's way to mistreat women. Prior to 1992 and the election of Bill Clinton, women in the media, for the most part, would have rallied together and condemed the mysogonistic ranting of a David Letterman. No more however.
As long as the hate against women is spewed from a politically correct orifice, it has to be sanctioned and rationalized.
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
The State Run Media can
June 10, 2009 - 12:27 ET by P. AaronThe State Run Media can insult Sarah Palin all day long...No Big Deal! But if someone insults the State Run Media, suddenly there's trouble?!!!
MSNBC=
June 10, 2009 - 12:38 ET by GeneralAlMSNBC= Mainly Socialist Numbskulls Badgering Conservcatives!
Sarah Palin: looks like a
June 10, 2009 - 14:00 ET by motherbeltSarah Palin: looks like a slutty flight attendant......OK
Bristol Palin: Knocked up by A-Rod during the 7th inning stretch...No problem.
Sarah Palin: responding with more class than the folks at MSNBC:
Outrageous!! How insulting!! How DARE you!! Cut his mike!!
Edit: it was Willow Palin (the 14-year-old!!) he joked about, not Bristol
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
MB
June 10, 2009 - 17:11 ET by DoktorFrankenThat's what I call perspective.
he was referring to Willow,
June 10, 2009 - 21:39 ET by amberhe was referring to Willow, age 14, not Bristol. Bristol was not at the game.
WOW! amazing. First the
June 10, 2009 - 12:29 ET by LiberalliesWOW! amazing.
First the Playboy article talking about Conservative women that Liberals should rape.
Now Letterman talking about Alex Rodriguez rapping Palin's teen age daughter and calling Palin a slut.
This is just patheticly sad.
And the tool that works for MSNBC was handed her lunch by John Ziegler. Funny how she claimed that she would not be offended if Letterman would make fun of her, but then demands that Ziegler's mike by caught off because she feels offended. HAHAHA!
→ futbol
June 10, 2009 - 12:54 ET by Cool ArrowLong Time No See!!
Can't believe we're both here at the same time.
You're right. The left has decided that making slut jokes and child-rape jokes are hilarious, as long as they're directed at conservatives.
Definitely a case of Liberal bias.
As I mentioned in another post, Letterman wouldn't make a joke about A-Rod climbing up into the stands and Punishing Michelle Obama with a baby.
Nope, gutterspeak like that is retained for use against Liberals.
There are actually Liberals in this blog defending Letterman.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Yeah, CA
June 10, 2009 - 13:11 ET by BlondeAnd Contessa Brewer is on MSNBC defending Letterman as well. Go figure.
I hope he fails, too.
"Letterman wouldn't make a
June 10, 2009 - 14:03 ET by seaniep"Letterman wouldn't make a joke about A-Rod climbing up into the stands and Punishing Michelle Obama with a baby. "
that made me laugh pretty hard . . . just the wording of it
I hate the New York Times more than it hates the US Military
Poor Little Contessa! Poor Little MSNBC!
June 10, 2009 - 12:33 ET by GeneralAlGee, it hurts her feelings to be attacked about her bias but its OK for Letterman to make smutty comments about the Palins! Isn't it wonderful here are LFI [Liberal Fantasy Island!]. Only liberals can get away with personal insults! Poor little Contessa! She can dish it out but she can't take it! Can we get a wailing wall for everyone over at PeeMSNBC?
It seems that Ms. Brewer needs a dose of her own medicine
June 10, 2009 - 12:35 ET by Lord ErondSo maybe we should say things about her like that since there really isn't any problem with it.
I really can't believe this stupid bitch. She's gonna look at the camera with a straight face and say there was nothing wrong with what Letterman said?
Then she goes ahead and accuses Ziegler of being Palin's spokesperson? When their network has pimped and prostituted their journalistic ethics for Obama worse than any 'media' outlet in history?
Maybe an f-14 sidewinder missle can go awry over the MSNBC studio or something and save the world from a lot of immoral, disgusting people.
"Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
This was most
June 10, 2009 - 12:35 ET by bigtimerThis was most delicious!
...and to top it off...you can be sure Ziegler is going to be getting soooo much free press with this now..hehehe
This tickled me to no end this morning...I could not believe what I was watching.
He took Brewer to the mat and cleaned her clock, along with all of msnbc.
Like I just said in OT, you can be sure msnbc will be outraged, just outraged I tell you for the rest of the week, Fox is going to love this...Morning Joe ought to be fun tomorrow to-boot.
You can be sure Big Ed will bust a blood vessel, Matthews will spew spittle like never before, Olbie will be beside himself and make Ziegler 'The Worst Person in the World'...his kid sister Maddow will do her inane BS like a good little leftist msmbc member.
What fun this has been, what I saw at 9:25 or so this morning has made my day...
Thank You John Ziegler...it is about time somebody cut to the chase with msnbc and told it like it is...with a big ol' smile on his wonderful face while doing so.
Noel, thanks for the hat-tip...one thing about it, the first person I thought of was you after I watched this live, because of Ziegler, and the second thought I had as I was glad I wasn't sitting in front of my computer at the time, I would still have to be cleaning the keyboard and screen...
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
BT
June 10, 2009 - 13:07 ET by well99My first cup of coffee and watching John tear msnbc up.Priceless!
Wow bt you are brave...
June 10, 2009 - 13:31 ET by DEVILDOCMOMdid you really watch this show? Maybe I am not open minded enough...I do not even know what channel this is on. I did hear it on Rush, Ziegler was great.
Speaking of terrible clothing, did you see the picture on Drudge of michellemabelle's outfit in London? Talk about ugly. AND THEN the "reporter" in London comments on her "narrow waist"...what a joke.
Hey howdy DDM... Long
June 10, 2009 - 13:48 ET by bigtimerHey howdy DDM...
Long time no see!
Yeah, I just happened to catch this, turned the channel from Fox during a commercial while having my morning coffee and it was just starting...could not believe what I was seeing, so danged priceless!
...and OMG yes I saw the most embarrassing outfit I have ever seen anybody wear in my lifetime...and to think she is the First Lady...
No Class....all Ass!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Your last comment is right on...
June 10, 2009 - 20:58 ET by DEVILDOCMOMOn another post I commented on bho being greeted by the French President and his wife...if you have not seen it try to find it...bho is TRULY checking out Carla Brunei Sarkozy while michellemabelle is bending over showing her...well, let's just say it is large...
Transcript??
June 10, 2009 - 12:36 ET by bluefeetbrewsPlease tell me that a transcript is coming soon- we have no sound at work!
I think the A-Rod comment
June 10, 2009 - 12:36 ET by Another Dead KennedyI think the A-Rod comment was a slam on Alex, not Palin. Okay, maybe not.
Give me a break
June 10, 2009 - 12:56 ET by Lord ErondSo he's saying that A-Rod is a pedophile? Clearly the 'knocking-up' line is meant as a slam against Bristol. And then if that's the case, why use a public figure like Governor Palin and her daughter? Why not just use any random 14 year old girl? In fact why didn't he joke about A-Rod knocking Dave's wife up, since it's just such a funny joke? I mean, he knocked up his girlfriend without marrying her for 6 years, she's a turboslut too.
No, no...this was a clear swipe at Palin.
"Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
→ Good point Erond
June 10, 2009 - 13:05 ET by Cool ArrowWonder what circumstances prompted Letterman to marry her after so many years.
Could it be his kid came home crying because the kids at school were making jokes in the same vein as his daddy?
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
No, as a New Yorker he knows
June 10, 2009 - 13:22 ET by Another Dead KennedyNo, as a New Yorker he knows that Alex gets around. Even during his marriage he was shot walking into the back door of a strip club, with his arm around a stripper.
Was he talking about her 14 year old daughter, or the 18 year old who already has a kid?
I mean, he knocked up his girlfriend without marrying her for 6 years, she's a turboslut too.
Are you implying any girl who gets pregnant without being married is a "turboslut?"
Kennedy Death Watch, you
June 10, 2009 - 13:29 ET by LiberalliesKennedy Death Watch,
you are not defending Letterman's joke that Palin's TEENage daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez, are you?
I believe most of us refer to teenage daughters girls who are 17 and under.
this is as disgusting as the Playboy article talking about Conservative women that Liberals should rape.
18. Eighteen. EighTEEN. Eight
June 10, 2009 - 14:17 ET by Another Dead Kennedy18.
Eighteen.
EighTEEN.
Eighteen is still a teenager. I'm not defending his joke. I'm saying it was more of a slam on ARod. This website is littered with tasteless jokes, and no one ever calls people out. This is a stupid joke, and hardly worth getting upset over. But people have to be upset about something, right?
→ 14 Fourteen
June 10, 2009 - 14:26 ET by Cool ArrowThe 18yr. old was not at the game, hence, no A-Rod joke involving Bristol.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
What do you think, KDW?
June 10, 2009 - 13:30 ET by BlondeThe daughter with Palin at Yankee Stadium was the 14 year old.
Spin that.
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde, EXCELLENT
June 10, 2009 - 13:49 ET by LiberalliesBlonde,
EXCELLENT POINT!!!!!!
but didn't you know, Blonde. It is ok for Liberals to make fun of Conservatives and their families, but it is the end of the world, it is pure and utter hate, it is dispicable, disgusting and pathetic if a Liberals believes that a Conservative or Republican is making fun of a Liberal.
Liberalism=Hate
Thanks, Fut.
June 10, 2009 - 14:04 ET by BlondeIt's been a while, fella. Good to see you.
KDW is a member of our newest class of trollsters....he's competing with Bal to earn the distinction of asking the dumbest question (which he lamely attempts to load against conservatives) on every possible subject.
Classic play, turn it around and ask him "what do you think"? This is like the third time I've tried it....with the usual response. Crickets chirping, natch.
I hope he fails, too.
Yes, I normally don't
June 10, 2009 - 14:21 ET by Another Dead KennedyYes, I normally don't respond to you. I've been warned by another user that you will get me kicked off the site if I make too good of an argument against you. That's why I stay away.
Was it her 14 year old daughter with her at the game? If that's the case, then the joke is inappropriate. I can't find a photo to confirm that.
Oh my.
June 10, 2009 - 14:28 ET by BlondeAnd who might you really be? Hmmmm.
Interesting.
Just so you know, it's a poster's own behaviour here that gets them booted, not me. Govern yourself accordingly.
You couldn't make ANY argument against me, my little liberal....not even a weak one. You've yet to even give it a shot, but thanks, I enjoy winning, even by default.
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde......funny how they...............
June 10, 2009 - 14:58 ET by BEGRUNTalways seem to expose themselves......LOL!!!
LOL! Exposed myself for
June 10, 2009 - 15:00 ET by Another Dead KennedyLOL! Exposed myself for writing my own, honest opinions? Wow, how tricky I was in...being truthful. LOL!
Uhh, kdw
June 10, 2009 - 21:02 ET by DEVILDOCMOMYou have already shown you are not truthful, Willow was there, not Bristol...Willow is 14. letterman is scum. In any case the comment was classless and showed how far letterman has fallen.
It's inescapable, BEG
June 10, 2009 - 15:05 ET by BlondeJust as the liberals must bash Palin, because it's in their DNA to do so, the retreads must return. It's just life. :)
I hope he fails, too.
BEG
June 10, 2009 - 15:26 ET by BlondeI'm guessing it's the return of william411....you remember, the one who plagiarized Wiki and demanded all the links?
I hope he fails, too.
Only an idiot would
June 10, 2009 - 15:48 ET by Another Dead KennedyOnly an idiot would plagiarize wikipedia. You're not gonna bust me for that. Wikipedia is edited by people like you and me, making it the least credible source for accurate information on the web. So no, I'm not william411. You can call me Mister Kennedy.
In your dreams, Junior
June 10, 2009 - 15:51 ET by BlondeAh, so you claim not to be young Master William. Good.
Keep it up, though....you are rapidly approaching his level of inanity here with all of your thrashing around, not to mention your continual whine that we provide you with links and cites.
I hope he fails, too.
KDW, YES! It was the 14
June 10, 2009 - 14:40 ET by LiberalliesKDW,
YES! It was the 14 year old daughter who was at the ball game, NOT the 18 year old!
So, now apologize! retract all the excuses you have given her to defend Letterman.
Besides, are you saying that it is ok to attack the 18 year old daughter of Mrs. Palin? Are you saying that if it had been the 18 year old that Letterman was referring to it is ok to call her a prostitute and claim that A-Rod raped her?
Are you Liberals truly this sick in the head? You know, the older I get, the more Conservative I become, while I do not like Michael Savage at all, I understand why he calls Liberalism a mental decease.
I am sure next thing you are going to do is defend the Playboy article, which the left wing blogs admired and defended, that calls for the raping of Conservative women.
But of course, KDW, it is Conservative and Republicans who play the politics of division, right? It is Conservative and Republicans who are nasty and hateful, right?
You Liberals are digusting individuals. You and I both know that if anything like this had been said about Clinton's daughter, about Obama's daughters YOU, the main stream media and the rest of the left wingers would be going crazy demanding that the Conservative or Republican that made such a comment be fired.
Liberals are huge hypocrite, hate mongers, and useful tools of morons like Obama.
Apologize for what??? Like
June 10, 2009 - 14:53 ET by Another Dead KennedyApologize for what??? Like that'll ever happen. I already wrote that if he was referring to the 14 year old, the joke was indeed inappropriate. That's the best you're gonna get.
I didn't read the Playboy story and therefore I can't comment on it.
Sarah Palin continues to make sure she remains in the spotlight. She's loving the attention, good or bad. As long as she continues to make every public appearance possible, rather than governing her state (the job she was elected to do), she's going to take hits. That's the life of a celebrity, good or bad. Not before you get all over me for that, our wonderfully absent mayor of LA is guilty of the same, so feel free to go off on him too.
I remember during the tiller posts that many of you liberals
June 10, 2009 - 15:02 ET by pahuberwere wondering when all the repudiation amongst us Republicans was going to happen.
Why the double standard?
Here you are trying to defend the indefensible about a 14 year old & a rape joke. You barely brought yourself to saying it was inappropriate...wow, very impressive.
Oh I remember you from the
June 10, 2009 - 15:10 ET by Another Dead KennedyOh I remember you from the other day. Look, nowhere in this article, or any of the others on NB state that Palin was at the game with her 14 year old daughter. I was under the impression the joke was about Bristol. Now, once it was brought to my attention that Dave was referring to the 14 year old, I denounced the joke. Twice. This is the THIRD time.
Now, before you start spreading BS about me, you need to point out where I defended a RAPE joke. It's completely irresponsible for you to accuse me of that when you know it's an outright lie.
KDW, I do not believe it's an outright lie. I just think you do
June 10, 2009 - 15:33 ET by pahubernot realize what you post, most of the time.
You do need to get to the post where one of your liberal brethren makes a racially charged statement about Jews.
I have not seen you or NWAHS denounce it yet and we are starting to believe you are all in favor of making these types of statements concerning Jews.
You are a liar. You must
June 10, 2009 - 15:44 ET by Another Dead KennedyYou are a liar. You must provide a link where I condone a joke about RAPE. I don't know what you're trying to do, but I find it completely disgusting.
As for my liberal brethren making racially charged statements about Jews, well here's a little personal information about me: My grandmother is Jewish, which makes me...A JEW!!! Care to rethink your statements?
NWAHS? I'm not familiar with that acronym. Please clarify, and while you're at it, find that RAPE link.
"You are a liar. You must
June 10, 2009 - 15:51 ET by pahuber"You are a liar. You must provide a link where I condone a joke about
RAPE. I don't know what you're trying to do, but I find it completely
disgusting."
- Keep it up, KDW. I would think others find that you are the one being disingenous.
"As for my liberal brethren making racially charged statements about
Jews, well here's a little personal information about me: My
grandmother is Jewish, which makes me...A JEW!!! Care to rethink your
statements?"
- Absolutely, NOT.
If you do not repudiate your liberal brother, wright then I am thinking you must agree with him.
"NWAHS? I'm not familiar with that acronym. Please clarify, and while you're at it, find that RAPE link. "
He's your brother in arms on this site.
Insane. You can't back up
June 10, 2009 - 15:58 ET by Another Dead KennedyInsane. You can't back up your statements yet you still insist them to be true. Come on, you can do it! I bet Blonde will even help. I have no idea who you are calling my liberal brother, nor who NWAHS is. Where is the RAPE link????
Ok, KDW, I will back up what I said with a link, again. I say
June 10, 2009 - 16:20 ET by pahuberagain because you challenged my words last time and misread them even worse than you are doing right here and now.
Let me preface your comment as you refer to as the 'rape link'...
Here are my words which you are commenting on:
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pahuber:
"Here you are trying to defend the indefensible about a 14 year old
& a rape joke. You barely brought yourself to saying it was
inappropriate...wow, very impressive."
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These are your comments concerning David Letterman's rape joke w/ A-Rod that indicate that this is nothing to get 'upset over'.
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"KDW:
"18.
Eighteen.
EighTEEN.
Eighteen is still a teenager. I'm not defending his joke. I'm
saying it was more of a slam on ARod. This website is littered with
tasteless jokes, and no one ever calls people out. This is a stupid
joke, and hardly worth getting upset over. But people have to be upset
about something, right? "
--------------------------------------------
This officially makes it twice that you have twisted my words and try and make me prove something that was not there. Maybe you are just confused and have short term memory loss. It seems hard to believe that you are being genuine when you keep on playing this game.
Your reaction, KDW, should have been disgust at DL for telling such a hideous joke, but no, you want to play the apologist for him. Well, then take the heat like a man if you are going say it was not enough to get upset over such a lowbrow joke of that 'caliber'... many of us here found it very insensitive and appalling.
Where is the rape joke???
June 10, 2009 - 16:30 ET by Another Dead KennedyWhere is the rape joke??? I'm twisting words?
One awkward moment for Sarah Palin at the Yankee game, during the seventh inning, her daughter was knocked-up by Alex Rodriguez.
You think Letterman was referring to Arod knocking up a 14 year old? I don't think so. I know everyone on this site thinks the very least of him, but I simply do not think this is the case. He was obviously referring to 18 year old Bristol. So where's the rape joke? I know you really want to think the least of me too, but you're seriously making things up here. If you can't take admitting you're wrong here, know that I don't care. You're not getting an apology. That's something conservatives do when they speak poorly of Rush.
→ No you're not
June 10, 2009 - 16:34 ET by Cool ArrowYou're not twisting words, you're switching sisters.
You just can't deal with Letterman making a joke about A-Rod raping a 14yr old. (Unless you're claiming 14 is the new age of consent)
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Can you read? Read what I
June 10, 2009 - 16:44 ET by Another Dead KennedyCan you read? Read what I wrote. Read it again, then read your own comments. Seriously, this is soooooo effed up. You guys just want me to admit it's funny to joke about raping a 14 year old. I know when I was initially accused of not denouncing a rape joke the poster was referring to the Playboy article, which I did not post a comment on, so it was switched to the Palin joke. People are seriously ill in the head if they think Letterman was joking about raping a 14 year old.
→ Exsqueeze me?
June 10, 2009 - 17:00 ET by Cool ArrowYou asked "where is the rape joke?)
I already understand it was a rqape joke.
I'm not going to pretzellize the joke to make it less than it is, especially to help Letterman get off the hook in his crusade against Sarah Palin and her daughters.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Okay then. You say
June 10, 2009 - 17:11 ET by Another Dead KennedyOkay then. You say Letterman was joking about the rape of a 14 year old. I say he wasn't. So what makes you right? Is it at least possible that you're wrong? Even a little bit, just 1% possible?
→ You first
June 10, 2009 - 17:15 ET by Cool ArrowIs it possible you're wrong?
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Absolutely. No one is
June 10, 2009 - 17:31 ET by Another Dead KennedyAbsolutely. No one is right 100% of the time. I think I'm only right 40-48%, but when I am right, boy is it big!
→ There, you see KDW
June 10, 2009 - 17:33 ET by Cool ArrowYou just admitted to obfuscation.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Letterman clarified his joke
June 11, 2009 - 12:59 ET by Another Dead KennedyLetterman clarified his joke last night that he was not referring to the 14 year old. Watch the clip, and then I will expect your apology. Or at least your acknowledgment that I was right.
→ Not!!!
June 11, 2009 - 13:05 ET by Cool ArrowHe tried to justify it, but he didn't clarify anything.
Stop squealing, I was just moving you up to one of Letterman's more productive teats.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
KDW, you either cannot comprehend words or playing off the fact
June 10, 2009 - 16:43 ET by pahuberthat you were busted again.
- Fact, you are wrong, again.
MY WORDS, KDW: pahuber, me, myself & I
"Here you are trying to defend the indefensible about a 14 year old & a rape joke. You barely brought yourself to saying it was inappropriate...wow, very impressive."
Now I've highlighted your point of contention to make it easier for you, KDW. First, let me ask you what rape joke do you think I mean? Who have we been talking about...hmmmmm?
"You think Letterman was referring to Arod knocking up a 14 year old? I
don't think so. I know everyone on this site thinks the very least of
him, but I simply do not think this is the case."
Yes, he was. Which is statutory rape, of course.
You don't think so? well, geez that changes things... /s
Well, perhaps that is because DL is a shill for any leftwing cause and continually puts down conservatives with rank humour... I am not surprised that you have not noticed... /s
Now, I say again, KDW, quit playing these little self righteous victim games or change your name to 'victim'.
"If you can't take admitting you're wrong here, know that I don't care.
You're not getting an apology. That's something conservatives do when
they speak poorly of Rush."
I believe you have been shown to be wrong, but hey why confuse facts.
Never asked for an apology and would not expect one from a liberal. I've made the comment many times on this site that liberalism is mental illness. Your posts help make this case.
The RL thing you mentioned.... ?????
Oh, wow. The difference
June 10, 2009 - 16:46 ET by Another Dead KennedyOh, wow.
The difference between liberals an conservatives:
Liberals can't admit when they're wrong.
Conservatives are NEVER wrong.
Kennedy!!!!!! Kennedy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 10, 2009 - 18:17 ET by blazermaniacYou must be a regular viewer of PMSNBC! Obama would never allow liberals to say they are wrong. Letterman is just an "OLD FART" whose time passed on about fifteen years ago. And remember, Lteertman is another liberal alum of NBC!
Only if she was your
June 10, 2009 - 15:58 ET by NL207Only if she was your mother's mother.
Yes, she's my mother's
June 10, 2009 - 16:32 ET by Another Dead KennedyYes, she's my mother's mother. Makes us all Jews. And it's insulting, even here, for one to question my faith.
Is it ok to question a Christian's faith? It seems like it is
June 10, 2009 - 16:46 ET by pahuberok...at least to liberals.
Personally, I do not think
June 10, 2009 - 16:48 ET by NL207Personally, I do not think that criteria makes you a Jew. The Jewish Faith thinks that criteria makes you a Jew.
I think that to be a Jew, you must share the Jewish beliefs about God, the soul, life after death and the moral code of the God of Abraham and observe the religious holidays of Judaism to be a Jew. If you do not share these things, then you are an Apostate Jew r perhaps even a member of another religion. In short, I believe you are whomever or whatever you choose to be through your own actions and beliefs.
Hi NL207, I respectfully disagree with you here. I know many a
June 10, 2009 - 16:55 ET by pahuberJew believes that, but I do think it is a genuine race and can be separate from the religion. I also want KDW to know I respect his heritage and faith.
I do have a problem with much of his thinking on conservative views.
To argue that 'Jewish' is a
June 11, 2009 - 12:20 ET by NL207To argue that 'Jewish' is a racial group is the trade of many anti-semites of the past, whom I need not list. I do not accept these arguments.
The Abyssinian Jews of Ethiopia are most certainly (a) Jewish and (b) not members of the same race as Russian or European Jewry are. Does this mean they are not Jews? The racial critera of Jewish inclusion argues they are not.
This flies in the face of everything I believe about men having the God given freedom to define themsleves not by the condition of their birth, but through their actions and character, anathema to all racists and bigots.
Either way, do you think I
June 10, 2009 - 17:07 ET by Another Dead KennedyEither way, do you think I would honestly allow someone to speak against my mother, and my grandmother's religion without condemning such statements? Because another page (that I haven't posted on) has an article about someone denouncing Jews, I should be lumped in with that person because they might be another liberal? That's effed up. That is the least reasonable thinking I can imagine. It's like saying all conservatives are responsible for Tiller's death, because Scott Roeder is a conservative.
KDW, amazing you let that other page slide.
June 10, 2009 - 21:48 ET by pahuberWhy aren't you over there condemning your brother, wright ; )
It is telling that you would rather be here defending DL.
Okay, I get your little wink
June 11, 2009 - 12:49 ET by Another Dead KennedyOkay, I get your little wink there, which I hope means your entire comment is a joke. I am neither black, nor christian, so I can't figure out a way we can be brothers, other than in the humanity sense that you and I are brothers. Regardless, I was right about Letterman. He went on the air last night and proclaimed how ludicrous it is for people to think he was making a rape joke about a 14 year old. As I said all along, he was referring to Bristol.
→ And you fell for it
June 11, 2009 - 12:54 ET by Cool ArrowOr at least you claim you did.
Let's move on.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Fair enough. I'm moving
June 11, 2009 - 13:03 ET by Another Dead KennedyFair enough. I'm moving on. Done with this thread. See ya 'round, Cool.
And PS - since when is it
June 11, 2009 - 12:50 ET by Another Dead KennedyAnd PS - since when is it required to comment on every single story?
KDW, I know, I know, most
June 10, 2009 - 15:09 ET by LiberalliesKDW,
I know, I know, most Liberals are a bunch of cowards that can't admit when they make a mistake. Don't worry, I did not expect you to apologize.
As for Sarah Palin's apperance, funny, I did not hear any Liberal complain when United States Senator Obama spend 99.9% of his time in the Senate campaining to become President of the United States. In fact, I have no doubt that you voted for him and now you admire him. WOW!
Additionally, prove that Palin is not governing her State? Do you know why she was in New York? get a clue and an education, please.
And yes, while Palin is in the spotlight, attack HER, attack HER policies!!!!
BUT WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING LIBERALS ATTACKING HER CHILDREN AND FAMILY?!!
As I said below, Libearls demanded that Conservatives not touch Michelle HateWhity Obama and their children. Yet they have no problem attacking the spouses and children of Conservative politicians.
So, explain the double standard and hypocrisy from the left?
yes, as long as SARAH Palin in on the spotlight, attack her!
but this is NOT about attacks on Sarah Palin, this is about the left, this is about YOU laughing and excusing Letterman's attack on Palin's daughters.
You are as digusting as Letterman. Unbelieveable that you aren't mature enought to apologize when you make a mistake.
Whether it was the 18 year old daughter or the 14 year old daughter, there is NO excuse to attack them so viciously. It is their MOTHER NOT THEM THE PUBLIC FIGURES!
HYPOCRITE!
Let's see if you hit all the
June 10, 2009 - 15:14 ET by Another Dead KennedyLet's see if you hit all the points:
Name calling: Check
Generalizing liberals as anyone who you don't agree with: Check
Condescension: Check
Hypocrisy: Check
Even if I were to apologize, surely you wouldn't excuse my comments even then. I won't bother.
KWD, Oh and the typical,
June 10, 2009 - 15:33 ET by LiberalliesKWD,
Oh and the typical, run of the mill Liberal continues with typical Liberal behavior.
You do not have a clue who I am. Do not judge me according to who YOU are.
your comment, "even if I were to apologize, surely you wouldn't excuse my comments even then. I won't bother." says a lot more about YOU and who YOU are than about me.
You still have not answered, why are you excusing such digusting behavior and hiding behind...."poor me, I am such a victim. Look how the nasty Conservative is attacking poor old me with such horrid name calling!" Geez, so, it is not ok to call you a hypocrite since you are a Liberal, but it is ok to call Sarah Palin's daughters prostitutes since they are Conservatives, eh?
Do you not see what a walking contradiction you are?
Condescension? do you have an inferiority complex? you are putting YOUR emotions and YOUR feelings into what I write.
I'll try one more time.
You just stated that Sarah Palin was not governing her State with all of her public apperances.
Explain how this is different from Obama running for the Presidency of the United States since the day he was elected into the US Senate?
You said that as long as Sarah Palin is a public figure, she will be attacked. Which I agree. However, her family should not be attacked. They are NOT the ones in the spotlight, so explain your defense of Letterman, whether it wa sthe 18 or 14 year old.
Why are you doing everything in your power to avoid answering this questions?
and please stop with the typical Liberal victimhood mentality.
Prove me wrong, prove how wrong I am about everything instead of feeling and crying like a poor little victim.
You wanna talk about judging
June 10, 2009 - 15:50 ET by Another Dead KennedyYou wanna talk about judging people you don't know? PM me and I'm more than happy to get into it with you.
KDW, OOOOH, WE'RE REALLY
June 10, 2009 - 16:05 ET by bretzysdudeKDW, OOOOH, WE'RE REALLY SCARED!
KDW, WOW! Let me try
June 10, 2009 - 16:10 ET by LiberalliesKDW,
WOW!
Let me try again. Can you answer the questions?
1) You cried about Sarah Palin not governing her State because of all the spotlight and travel she is doing.
Barack Hussein Obama, as Senator of Illinois was NEVER doing anything for Illinois. From the first day he was elected into the United States Senate, he started running for the Presidency of the USA. Why are you complaining about Sarah Palin, but do not care about Obama?
2) How can you excuse Letterman's comments, whether they were directed to the 14 year old or the 18 year old, why can't you say that neither one should be attacked? you are going around this forum making all the effort in the world attempting to excuse Letterman's behavior by saying that Conservatives do it also, yet you have been unable to come up with one example of Obama's children being called prostitutes or someone wishing that they were raped.
Stop being such a victim, my goodness! I kid you not, you Liberals are all the same.
You make accusations about Conservatives, when it is pointed out that a Liberal politician did the same thing that you claim the Conservative is doing you ignore it at all cause.
Then, you are ok with Conservative kids being attacked, but my goodness, God help any Conservative that attacks a Liberal politician.
Can you answer the above questions? why is it so hard for you to answer these?
Can you read? Do you read?
June 10, 2009 - 16:21 ET by Another Dead KennedyCan you read? Do you read? Do you read all of the comments on the page, or just skim for the guts you actually care about?
1) In my first post on the subject of Palin not governing her own state, I included my own dear mayor who is guilty of the same thing - Villaraigosa. He's spent every day since his election campaigning for something other than mayor. If you need me to denounce Obama, Hillary, McCain, or any of the other presidential hopefuls for not serving their positions, I'm happy to. If they want to avoid their jobs, they're stuck defending their decisions. But it works for everyone.
2) This is now the FOURTH time on this page, on 4 different posts, that I am saying Letterman's remarks were inappropriate if he was referring to the 14 year old. Let's not forget that Bristol herself has come out to get herself into the spotlight by doing completely unnecessary TV interviews, so in effect she has chosen to become a celebrity. She can deal with it too.
I don't know your definition of victim, but in what way did I claim to be one? You're making things up in your head now. Accusations about conservatives? When? Where? You want to talk about avoiding questions? I've been called out for supporting RAPE jokes, yet no one can provide proof. I'm being lumped in with every liberal you've ever hated for one reason or another, and honestly I don't give a crap. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.
KDW, yes, you are. You
June 11, 2009 - 07:01 ET by bretzysdudeKDW, yes, you are. You will lose sleep over it. It will haunt you day and night, knowing that you lied to us and lied to us. MWAHHAHAHAHA!
Troll. Get off the web.
Wow. I haven't been called
June 11, 2009 - 12:52 ET by Another Dead KennedyWow. I haven't been called a troll in a long time. Now you really hurt my feelings.
As far as I can tell
June 10, 2009 - 15:11 ET by general companySarah Palin continues to make sure she remains in the spotlight.
Obama is in the spotlight, but nobody is making sick jocks about his kids. Yourcomparison is lacking to say the least. So Palin is now confined by you to Anchorage? Like Obama is to DC right?
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
BS ALERT!!! Obama is in the
June 10, 2009 - 15:16 ET by Another Dead KennedyBS ALERT!!!
Obama is in the spotlight, but nobody is making sick jocks about his kids
Every single day people here are bashing Michelle Obama for being in the news. It's the same thing, yet I don't see you denouncing that.
Link please, KDW
June 10, 2009 - 15:23 ET by BlondeCome on, you can do it! A link to sick jokes about the Obama girls.
MO is not the girls, not even close to the same status, sweetie. Rember, she's the BIG GIRL who was finally proud of her country? And other incendiary remarks?
How do you like your tactic, fella? Show me, I demand you show me!!!!
I hope he fails, too.
BS alert KDW
June 10, 2009 - 15:26 ET by general companyReally, are they making sick jokes about her kids. Your full of it, even your username is sad. I guess that is why you justify it
Every single day people here are bashing Michelle Obama for being
in the news. It's the same thing, yet I don't see you denouncing
that.
But I have denouced your username, its sick.
Find where I commented of her being anywhere. You wont, so who is the one full of BS. Even though it is not the same thing, not my fault your to thick to understand that.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Denounce Newsbusters for
June 10, 2009 - 15:36 ET by Another Dead KennedyDenounce Newsbusters for approving my name. I've contacted them to change it, they have not responded. What would you like to do? Start a petition? Seriously, you don't like my name. Surely you have a way for me to change it.
While we're at it, where did I say anything negative about the Palins? This little p!ssing contest is getting old.
You're the one who submitted it
June 10, 2009 - 15:40 ET by BlondeSo live with your choices, liberal.
Your whining is soooo becoming. Is that part of your "good arguments"? What an excellent new debate tactic.
I hope he fails, too.
I'm happy with my screen
June 10, 2009 - 15:52 ET by Another Dead KennedyI'm happy with my screen name. I'm just catering to those who are offended by it.
Really?
June 10, 2009 - 16:01 ET by BlondeI've contacted them to change it, they have not responded.
Hoist on your own petard, apparently.
As for your attempt to deflect, sorry, not buying it. If you were in love with your sn you wouldn't care what others thought about it.
So, is this another example of your "too good argument"?
I hope he fails, too.
Can you come back down to
June 10, 2009 - 16:06 ET by Another Dead KennedyCan you come back down to reality for a second here. I was told by a user that he or she was offended by my screen name. I asked the thread if anyone else agreed, and if enough people did I would contact NB to change my name. Well, several people chimed in and I agreed to do it. I emailed once from the site, which got kicked back as undeliverable, and another time from my personal email. That was last week, and I have not heard back.
Why must everything be an argument with you? I have a feeling that if I said Obama was the worst president in history, you'd change your position just to argue with me. I don't care who likes my screen name and who doesn't. I'm being polite by offering to change it. As YOU said, it's the the user but the content that gets you banned here. Well, NB approved my name, so if it's offensive, it's not enough to deny my membership in the first place.
Oh I see
June 10, 2009 - 16:13 ET by BlondeYou made an error in judgement, but it's someone else's fault. Check.
You were the one who threw out that your "arguments were too good", that is about the funniest thing I've seen, since you have not backed up a single thing you've posted (hint....vulgar jokes about the Obama girls).
You whine and you thrash and you continually change topics. Everything is not an argument for me, I merely can't abide stupid statements by liberals. If you continue to make them, expect to get an argument from me about them.
And if you'd like to put it to a vote, who's winning the "argument" here that is...be my guest.
I hope he fails, too.
OK KDW
June 10, 2009 - 16:24 ET by BlondeI'll let you off the hook....since you've been nice about it (although your debating skills need ALOT of work).
Use the "Contact Us" form here to request a change in your user name. I think if you explain your reason, your request will more than likely be granted.
I hope he fails, too.
The Contact Us link doesn't
June 10, 2009 - 16:49 ET by Another Dead KennedyThe Contact Us link doesn't work. The email just keeps getting sent back to my inbox. I hear there's a way to insert a link into my posts too, but that doesn't work either. Is it a Mac thing? If you have any influence on this site, I'm still willing to change my name.
Try this
June 10, 2009 - 17:12 ET by BlondeSorry, I tried to link the Contact form, but it keeps popping w/my personal info...no can do, I'm sure you understand. Try sending a pm to one of the Masthead. It probably has to do with using a Mac.
To insert a link, highlight the text to which you wish to link your article. Then click the "chain-link" icon (on the far right at the bottom of this comment window...note, you must have the Rich Text editor option turned on). You'll get a little pop-up box.
Then, go to the other window...the window where you have up the info you want to link to, and copy the http: address. Paste it into the link in the pop-up box. There are options (like open in another window).
That should do it for you, preview your comment and you should be able to see it (you can test it to see if it goes to the right link by right clicking and selecting Open in New Tab). If that is too confusing, pm me.
I hope he fails, too.
Screen name for sale
June 10, 2009 - 17:18 ET by mandrakeI have a really good screen name, and it's for sale, Mandrake can mean several things. The guy in Dr. Strangelove, a big goofy dog and a root used in voodoo rituals. I'm willing to sell the password for a price. PM me and we'll negotiate.
Wow, mandrake
June 10, 2009 - 17:21 ET by BlondeAnd all this time I thought it meant "Crazy Canuk". :)
I hope he fails, too.
Ha! I was guessing
June 10, 2009 - 17:33 ET by Another Dead KennedyHa! I was guessing Strangelove! It is a good name, but I have an alternate already lined up. I'll keep you in mind if it gets denied. Thanks.
Not offended by your name. I thought it had something to do
June 10, 2009 - 22:13 ET by pahuberwith the untimely deaths of the Kennedy's... there is something with that family that just is not right.
Mandrakes
June 11, 2009 - 09:53 ET by UnsaneI was thinking that a mandrake was a plant that, when pulled, was said to emit a scream which made he/she who pulled it go insane.
"Moonchild! Hear the mandrake scream! Moonchild! Open the Seventh Seal!" - Iron Maiden, "Mandrake", from Seventh Son of a Seventh Son (1988)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
So pull me. I doubt in your
June 11, 2009 - 10:07 ET by mandrakeSo pull me. I doubt in your case it'll make a difference.
Thanks Blonde
June 10, 2009 - 17:02 ET by general companyI had to drive to the shop. Exellent points all.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Have you ever been walking down a city street
June 11, 2009 - 13:05 ET by nwahsHave you ever seen someone on a city street talking to themselves? I mean having a good old conversation, laughing and hooting and clapping? And I don't mean in more recent times. They may have a hands free device. But before the hands free devices. You know, people with various mental illnesses that make them talk to people who aren't there. Its really sad, and you really can't help them by telling them "hey stop doing that." I wish it was that easy, but usually it takes medication and supervision.
Blonde is a lot like that. Telling her to stop isn't going to help. I wish it were that easy.
I didn't leave the Republican party, they kicked me out.
→ I want to see it too
June 10, 2009 - 15:38 ET by Cool ArrowKDW.
Show us the sick prostitute jokes about Michelle and her daughters.
I'll be there to condemn them. I'd rather not join a club that justifies its behavior with the behavfior of others. Not when it comes to sick jokes about kids.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Agreed, I would condemn
June 10, 2009 - 15:42 ET by pahuberAgreed, I would condemn them heartily!
This type of behavior should not be tolerated by anybody right or left.
Cool
June 10, 2009 - 16:00 ET by LiberalliesCool Arrow,
EXACTLY!!!
KDW needs to show us all the sick prositute jokes about Michelle and her daughters.
I hope you are not holding your breath... :-)
It is utterly digusting when BOTH sides attack the family members of politicians or pundits.
KDW, BS ALERT?! I guess
June 10, 2009 - 15:44 ET by LiberalliesKDW,
BS ALERT?! I guess you are right! you did warn us that you were about to write BS before you wrote it!
Since when is Michelle Obama, Barack Obama's daughter? Did you not just finished a sad attempt to lecture me that the reason Sarah Palin was being attacked was because she keeps herself in the spotlight? hmmmm.....hello! is Michelle Obama in the spotlight or not?
and furthermore and way more to the point....PLEASE POINT OUT TO ALL THOSE NASTY ATTACKS ON OBAMA'S DAUGHTERS COMING FROM THE RIGHT, CONSERVATIVES, AND REPUBLICANS?!
WOW!
you do know that being someone's wife is not the same thing as being that individuals off spring, right?
Holy Cow!
Let me say it again...
OBAMA IS IN THE SPOTLIGHT, BUT NOBODY IS MAKING SICK JOKES ABOUT HIS KIDS!!! FACT!!!
no prove me wrong, prove the other individuals who said too wrong or apologize, if you are mature enough to do so.
are you Liberals such sick individuals that you do not know the difference between attacking an adult who keeps themselves in the spotlight and attacking a 14 year old child?
I am not calling you names, I am calling you what you are, or at least what you have show us to be with your words on this forum- a hypocrite and a digusting individual. If you are not, prove me wrong. I would be insulting you if you were not these things.
Epic fail
June 10, 2009 - 15:16 ET by SickofLibsYou don't have to worry about making "too good of an argument" with anyone here, trust me.
You've been posting about this here for hours, and JUST NOW you ask if the 14 yr old was at the game?
It would have taken you five seconds to have verified that fact by googling it. Instead you engage everyone here in dumbass arguments and conjecture without first checking the facts.
Now how are we supposed to take you seriously in the future? Apologize, Sir, or resign forthwith.
ROTFLOL
June 10, 2009 - 21:54 ET by amberROTFLOL
who the h.. are you? Blond
June 10, 2009 - 21:49 ET by amberwho the h.. are you? Blond is a wonderful lady with an open mind when it comes to serious discussions.
you suck
But David Shuster makes a
June 10, 2009 - 14:07 ET by motherbeltBut David Shuster makes a comment about Hillary "pimping out" her adult daughter and all HELL breaks loose!
No one implied that either Hillary or Chelsea should chill.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Did "all hell break loose?"
June 10, 2009 - 14:18 ET by Another Dead KennedyDid "all hell break loose?" Can you link me to someone on this site speaking out against those comments?
→ Here ya' go KDW
June 10, 2009 - 14:21 ET by Cool ArrowHere's my comment at the time.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Cool, I could give you a big
June 10, 2009 - 14:26 ET by Another Dead KennedyCool, I could give you a big hug for that! I commend you for your comments.
→ Thanks KDW
June 10, 2009 - 14:28 ET by Cool ArrowI thought it was a mean thing for anybody to say about someone whose claim to fame is solely that they have famous parents.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Now, why should I have to
June 10, 2009 - 14:27 ET by motherbeltNow, why should I have to do that for you?
I was talking about in the media.
Shuster actually ended up getting suspended over it.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Shyster
June 10, 2009 - 15:35 ET by SickofLibsSuspended. But then promoted. But then demoted.
Next comes smoted, after which comes monster.com
Search, KDW...it's like "Google it"
June 10, 2009 - 14:25 ET by BlondeThere's a nifty little thing here called a "search" feature. Try it, instead of demanding someone else here spoon feed you.
Again with the questions.
And yeah, all hell broke loose.....Shuster got suspended by his own network. Or doesn't that count in your liberal outrage book?
I hope he fails, too.
Will you please link me to
June 10, 2009 - 14:28 ET by Another Dead KennedyWill you please link me to your comments on this site?
Use the search function.
June 10, 2009 - 14:30 ET by motherbeltUse the search function. No one's going to do your work for you.
Try Shuster + Pimping
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Oops...and thanks, mb
June 10, 2009 - 14:46 ET by BlondeI think my sister by a different mom has covered my response to that one.
Somehow, I fear poor little KDW is having a hard time keeping up with the grown ups.
I hope he fails, too.
Cmon, MB
June 10, 2009 - 15:19 ET by SickofLibsNow how is he supposed to learn to use such an advanced thing as the search function when he thinks Google is a kid's board game?
Right, B, I wonder why
June 10, 2009 - 14:29 ET by motherbeltRight, B, I wonder why Contessa didn't point out that both Hillary and Chelsea are "still here...."
Guess she didn't want to go there...
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
KDW, Typical
June 10, 2009 - 15:00 ET by LiberalliesKDW,
Typical Liberal.
So, what you are saying is that it is ok for Liberals to attack the kids of Conservative politicians because you believe Conservative have done it to Liberals? are you kidding?
So, you are admitting that Liberals are as hateful, as vicious, as digusting, as pathetic, as putrid individuals as Liberals claim Conservative are because we supposedly have no shame on who we attack on the left, right?
Get a clue, please!
It is pathetic and sad when Liberals AND Conservatives say that since the other side does it, it is ok for them to do it also.
Not too long ago, during the Presidential elections the left went crazy, the American media too when they believed that Michelle HatesWhity Obama, was being attacked for her hateful, digusting comments about America. Everyone on the left demanded that the Right shut-up about Obama's hateful comments since she was not public figure. And just in case they also demanded that Obama's children not be attacked.
I guess it is ok for Liberals to make digusting and hateful comments about children of Conservative kids, eh?
Exactly Liberallies
June 10, 2009 - 15:16 ET by general companyBut what do you expect from some one with the sad username KDW has. More excusing bad behaviour by compairing supposed bad behaviour of others. Typical liberal doesnt even cover it
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
gc... He along with a few
June 10, 2009 - 15:26 ET by bigtimergc...
He along with a few others here really need to go back home to DKos...where everybody knows their (real) names.
They really all think they are cute/smart by half.
I'm so sick of them...they get to stay here far longer than any of us would if we even wanted to be bothered with those filthy sites.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Contessa Brewer: All bull, no news.
June 10, 2009 - 12:36 ET by c5thenShouldn't she have to change her tag line in the interest of truth in advertising?
Hey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!
www.loyaltoliberty.com
This was classic
June 10, 2009 - 12:48 ET by averageschmoeYou could tell that this was a hit piece to make Palin look bad and make her irrelevant. That's why they had the poll that she was not listed in for the spokesperson for the GOP. It backfired in their face and now the anger has come out. She can dish it out but she can't take it.
Zeigler on MSNBC
June 10, 2009 - 12:40 ET by BlondeI am shocked that they still have him on, after he's wiped the floor several times with Shuster....and now polished the floor with Contessa.
Her outrage was hillarious.
Thanks for the h/t NS....the kudos go to Rush, where I heard it first.
I hope he fails, too.
THAT was hilarious!
June 10, 2009 - 12:43 ET by Paul AtreidesContessa von Brewer makes the claim that she has received the same treatment as Sarah Palin and is asked "by David Letterman?" and she promptly changes the subject.
PA... Be interesting to
June 10, 2009 - 12:51 ET by bigtimerPA...
Be interesting to hear who has called Contessa a slut in public that has any national importance whatsoever.
Even if that had happened, it would seem that would make a woman more offended and give good reason for Brewer to defend her, even if they don't agree politically.
Nothing like an obvious agenda...now is there?
Phony as a two dollar bill...and just as empty upstairs Brewer is...along with most of msnbc.
No class....none of them.....zilch.
.Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Brewer is a two dollar whore
June 10, 2009 - 12:59 ET by Lord ErondAlthough I hear she's lowering her prices.
"Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
The sad thing in a couple of years
June 10, 2009 - 14:49 ET by dark_dsThe sad thing in a couple of years it will take a wheelbarrow to carry that 2 dollars
_______ Him and the Unicorn he rode in on
Contessa proves Sarah's point
June 10, 2009 - 13:06 ET by Paul AtreidesShe wonders what the big deal about the joke is and then has a hissy fit about John coming on there and "insulting her" and to cut his mike.
It's okay to call Sarah Palin slutty but don't dare put Contessa von Brewer on the spot with some inconvenient truths about her and her joke of a network.
Hey, Contessa von Brewer, what's the matter, shouldn't you have a thicker skin up there on that pedestal?
Simple Test as to how 'funny' these 'jokes' are.
June 10, 2009 - 12:47 ET by Lord ErondLet's say them about Obama's children and see how long it takes for someone to come at you with a knife. I estimate 0.3 seconds.
"Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
LE
June 10, 2009 - 13:20 ET by well99Nobodys kids should be attacked.Unless like Megan McCain they jump into the political arena.She is a adult.When young kids start getting attacked it is bs.Willow from my understanding was at the game and she is about 14.Todd and Dave should have a talk where no witnesses are around.Will see what Dave has to say after that.
Hey, how about jokes about Obama
June 10, 2009 - 13:33 ET by Paul Atreidesthe late-night "talent" won't even talk about Obama.
How many times did Ziegler
June 10, 2009 - 12:52 ET by RR GOPHow many times did Ziegler have to answer the slut's question? Obviously, just not what the slut wanted to hear.
Also, the MSNBC slut accusing Ziegler of being a spokesman for Sarah Palin is pretty rich given their slutty slobbering of Dear Leader and all things Commie.
(I'm using the words "slut" and "slutty" because it seems to be PC as of now according to Letterman and Conslutta Brewer.)
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
msdnc
June 10, 2009 - 12:52 ET by east tennessee johnSo that shopworn ex-tv weatherman who was told to kiss off by Dania Partick and who finally got around to legitimizating his kid's birth had the comic"genius" to attack Govenor Palin and her LEGITIMATE daughter and C*ntessa thinks that's ok but critizing msdnc for wearing out their kneepads sucking up to Comrade O deserves a mike being shut off. So much for free speech, so much for journalistic integrity,of which msdnc has neither.
So when she can't win an
June 10, 2009 - 13:00 ET by Radical1979So when she can't win an arugment she shuts off the microphone. I use the mute button to shut her up when I can't stand the idiocy.
She couldn't even pretend to
June 10, 2009 - 13:12 ET by Mitchell BlattShe couldn't even pretend to keep her views on Zeigler shielded when she started the interview.
Wow. Zeigler was
June 10, 2009 - 13:13 ET by buddycWow. Zeigler was great.
Words are wasted complaining about anything MSNBC does. Action should be taken. Brewers came accross as insincere in that:
1. NO WOMAN who is called "slutty" believes it is being "thin skinned" to be bothered by that comment;
2. The opening question set the tone with "why is Palin so thin skinned as to be upset by what Letterman said";
3. The refusal to allow discussion about the "knocked up" comment and limiting the discussion to only the one comment: and
4. Shutting off his microphone.
I wonder when Ziegler will
June 10, 2009 - 13:16 ET by mattmI wonder when Ziegler will be asked back on MSDNC...
Must see TV.
June 10, 2009 - 18:11 ET by blazermaniacHopefully very soon. PMSNBC would actually get a rating!
Twitter
June 10, 2009 - 13:21 ET by capavI know she "tweets". How about everyone sending her a "tweet" telling her how "sweet" it is that she can't understand Sarah's complaint about Letterman. I hope she's kidding. I cannot believe that she finds it hard to believe that Letterman was wrong. Let's find a comic willing to joke about Michelle Obama's being slutty. I'm SURE Behar and Goldberg will write it off as just being a joke. Comics are held to a different standard and that standard is certainly contributing to the moral decay of this country!
I've seen Ziegler before...
June 10, 2009 - 13:32 ET by Jarhead68on CNN or MSLSD and he always has a big smile on his face and always gives the host a swift kick in the ass for good measure. He's a fun guest when he's on a leftist network. They always get pissed off and start yelling at him so he can't get his message out. He rocks.
contessa maddow
June 10, 2009 - 13:34 ET by tomolson3Is it just me or does Contessa look like that guy, Rachel Maddow, in drag!!!!!!!!!
My wife and I just laughed our butts off at contessa!
June 10, 2009 - 13:36 ET by pahuberMy wife has never heard of her and heard her initial comments... walked over to the monitor and with me started cracking up about how unhinged contessa was with this interview.
The irony will be lost on Brewer...
June 10, 2009 - 13:35 ET by moderncommentaries83...but I love how, early in the segment she chides Ziegler and tells him she's been called "slutty" and deals with it (implying that Sarah Palin should put up with Letterman's inappropriate comments) and then, at the end of the segment, she chides him for being insulting to her.
So which is it, Brewer? Suck it up and deal or be insulted? Or does the former only apply to conservatives, and the latter to liberals?
Aut viam inveniam aut faciam
Brewer being called slut
June 10, 2009 - 14:44 ET by SickofLibsLet's clarify "all the insults" Brewer has had to put up with. Actually, it's only one...
Notorious foulmouth Imus called Brewer an idiot/slut/moron four years ago in retaliation for her mocking his Kids With Cancer Charity Ranch, in addition to calling him an old fool unable to relate to beautiful women (guess who?)
SHE started it, and Imus dealt it right back. And for her to dare to compare these mother/daughter Palin insults to Imus' one comment from 4 years ago about her is disingenuous at best.
She apparently believes she really is a contessa. And I'm no big Imus fan, either.
On her Twitter feed, any
June 10, 2009 - 13:43 ET by SickofLibsOn her Twitter feed, any mention of this entire debacle is strangely missing except for this one post:
"Thanks for all the feedback on the tough guest. I always want to be fair, but at some point, it's just not informative."
What a monumental whore.
→ Here's your sign
June 10, 2009 - 13:47 ET by Cool Arrow"I consider myself a common sense thinker" - Contessa Brewer
Now that's funny, I don't care who y'are.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
CA... Yep, I found that
June 10, 2009 - 14:23 ET by bigtimerCA...
Yep, I found that line a comedy within itself also.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Contessa just can't handle the truth
June 10, 2009 - 14:22 ET by R D HelmWhat a surprise.
-Dave
Obama's health care "reform" plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof-Herman Cain
Using the truth as bait
June 10, 2009 - 14:32 ET by RousseNo fisherman ever teased the trout more perfectly than the way John Zeigler played Contessa Brewer. And what did he use for bait? The truth.
Is it considered professional to order the microphone to cut off on a guest just because you don't like what he is saying? He was not crude, coarse, or vulgar. My esteem for John Zeigler has gone way up.
Amateur hour
June 10, 2009 - 14:51 ET by SickofLibsCutting the mike on a guest is virtually unheard of, especially if the guest is smiling, civil and is NOT swearing his ass off or something.
She was going to be out anyway in several seconds, so that was her childish way of getting back at John for his cleaning her clock.
Dude....it's MSNBC!
June 10, 2009 - 14:54 ET by BlondeOf course it's Amateur Hour.
How embarassing!
(Great point, of course SoL).
I hope he fails, too.
double post
June 10, 2009 - 14:51 ET by SickofLibsdouble post
MessNBC
June 10, 2009 - 14:40 ET by Apark559Ha ha ha....he DEFINITELY took her to school. It's really pathetic that he had to explain to her why being called "slutty" on a nationally broadcast show is insulting and not funny at all. She stumbled and stuttered, sounding petty and unprofessional. MessNBC has a vendetta against Gov. Palin that is so obvious to everyone but them and their rabid followers.
Kudos to Mr. Zeigler for taking Contessa and the networks of NBC to the woodshed.
I wouldn't have wanted
June 10, 2009 - 14:50 ET by Paul Atreidesto be her personal assistant when they went to commercial break. Judging by how she appeared to be suppressing the rage, I imagine that she is a screamer and a thrower.
I hope John walked off the
June 10, 2009 - 14:53 ET by SickofLibsI hope John walked off the set reaaaaaaallllll slow like.
Remember?
June 10, 2009 - 14:57 ET by Paul AtreidesAll the righteous indignation from the left when:
a) the old woman at the McCain rally calling Hillary a b*tch
b) the guy at the Hillary rally holding up the sign saying "Iron my shirt"
It didn't take long for times to change, did it?
Journalists???
June 10, 2009 - 15:34 ET by jessieHjessieH Let her rant. From the polls, PMSNBC is about to have their mic turned off.
I heard this exchange on Rush's show...
June 10, 2009 - 16:02 ET by jawebster1and Ziegler was good, very good. Thank you Rush. I never watch MSNBC so if not for you, I never would have heard it. Never heard of this woman before either. Obviously, she is no professional and was unable to handle his little digs against her network without getting upset. He voiced what millions of us feel. I guess this means Ziegler will be featured on Olbermann's "Worst person in the world" segment. On a normal network, Letterman would be the WPITW! Jim Webster
AWESOME!
June 10, 2009 - 18:08 ET by blazermaniacJohn Ziegler took Miss Brewer to the cleaners! Contessa has proven once again that she is not even close to be a journalist. Typical PMSNBC garbage. However, the wrong mike was turned off. It should have been Contessa's mike that was turned off. And, Olberdorks, Madcows, Shysters, Ed Schitz, & others should have their mikes turned off before each of them utter a single word.
Letterman's Hate
June 10, 2009 - 21:12 ET by rapkillerDAVID LETTERMAN'S HATE, etc. !
Speaking of anti-Semitism, it's Jerry Falwell and other fundy leaders who've gleefully predicted that in the future EVERY nation will be against Israel (an international first?) and that TWO-THIRDS of all Jews will be killed, right?
Wrong! It's the ancient Jewish prophet Zechariah who predicted all this in the 13th and 14th chapters of his book! The last prophet, Malachi, explains the reason for this future Holocaust that'll outdo even Hitler's by stating that "Judah hath dealt treacherously" and "the Lord will cut off the man that doeth this" and asks "Why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother?"
Haven't evangelicals generally been the best friends of Israel and Jewish persons? Then please explain the recent filthy, hate-filled, back-stabbing tirades by David Letterman (and Sandra Bernhard) against a leading evangelical named Sarah Palin, and explain why most Jewish leaders have seemingly condoned Palin's continuing "crucifixion"!
While David and Sandra are tragically turning comedy into tragedy, they are also helping to speed up and fulfill the Final Holocaust a la Zechariah and Malachi, thus helping to make the Bible even more believable!
tired of liberal
June 10, 2009 - 22:35 ET by stunnedtired of liberal lies
Libs have been attacking the Palin kids including the baby Trig who has downs syndrome since day one. If the Obamas attend a basketball game 4 or 5 years down the road and a conservative joked a player impregnated one of the girls at half time all hell would break loose. The MSM gave a cover to the insults lobbed at these kids all along and nothing will stop the hate because its suits their purpose which is to destroy their mom.
→ Tru dat
June 10, 2009 - 22:38 ET by Cool ArrowSeems like it was HuffPo that started the rumor, first that Trig was Bristol's child? And then upon learning Bristol was pregnant, and mathmatically eliminated, started the rumor the baby was Willow's?
Letterman's just keeping in step.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
http://retardedbaby.... A
June 11, 2009 - 08:59 ET by SickofLibshttp://retardedbaby....
A "pro McCain" site
What would Contessa name
June 11, 2009 - 06:24 ET by HockeyKidWhat would Contessa name her daughter--"Duchess Slutbucket Fatass Brewer-Whatsisname"? Now THAT would be showing 'em she could take a joke!
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Brewer is typical liberal
June 11, 2009 - 11:58 ET by DaMamaOnce again the ugly head of liberal TV journalism is exposed! Brewer was so tacky, it's unbelieveable! Letterman was totally wrong to go after Bristol Palin like that, but not unexpected or surprising. These liberal types in Hollywood/New York don't have any scruples. Kudos for Palin for standing up for her family and not taking any smack talk about her daughter.
As for Brewer, what an airhead. She couldn't stand up to Ziegler's logic. MSNBC is so intolerant of anyone conservative. Our MSM is a joke.
Letterman and CNN are truly disgusting......
June 11, 2009 - 21:33 ET by sbourg.....his "jokes" are just a way to continue the "hate-fest" against Governor Palin. Letterman clearly loves it, the numbskulls in the audience, and I guess the several morons watching Letterman late-night might enjoy it. But it's not only low-class humor, it's actually an indication of how clueless the Obama-loving entertainers and MSM and many millions of Obama-voters are. They have no idea that Palin could and would run the country in a more responsible manner, revitalizing our Capitalist economy and producing more of our own energy WITHOUT govt interference, and therefore producing jobs in the private sector. The 53% who voted for Obama are going to see how ugly this gets.......month after month. But they can keep behaving badly if they wish. Very sad.
Goebbels School Propagandists, Polemicists & Pamphleteers, All
June 15, 2009 - 20:38 ET by Brian AllenWhat a colossally classless cow, quite curiously called, "Contessa," who comes across so comprehensively caused to have become incapable of independent "thought" - so mind-numbed robotic - as to be about as perfect an example of a Goebbels' School graduate as one might ever stumble upon.
That this near perfect pathological projector of the FasciSSocialist Psychopathology, PMSNBC "commentator" and/or vapid verbalizer of her own bowels' burblings (I know, I know - two of those are redundant) feels that anything Mr Letterman has ever said is "funny," demonstrates her stupidity. By not only giving him a pass on his slutty stewardess, Spitzer/A-Rod, pedophilia and statutory rape remarks and feigning surprise and taking offense that Alaska Governor Palin has called Mr Letterman on his conduct, the dopey ditz doubling as PMSNBC's ersatz contessa, Ziegler, demonstrates a double dose of the "Democrats" definitive amorality.
Brian Richard Allen
Los Angeles Califobambicated 90028
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