Howard Kurtz: Bachmann Should Have Expected Verbal Abuse Because She Ran for President
Michele Bachmann complained that although the media are outraged over an insult of Sandra Fluke, "there is no level of vitriol that's beyond the pale" when the victims are conservative women. CNN's Howard Kurtz questioned that assumption since Bachmann ran for president and should have expected "a lot of criticism." Apparently, running for president nowadays subjects you and your family to vile, obscene, personal insults – and you should simply expect it.
When then-candidate Obama was the target of a fraction of the vitriol Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann received as presidential candidates, the media rushed to his defense and rightfully did not tolerate such invective being a part of the presidential process. [Warning: this article includes uncensored vulgarities to accurately represent what certain members of the media have said about conservative women.]
Once Bachmann declared last June that she had filed to run for president, the floodgates were opened from the left. Liberal comedian Bill Maher called her a "MILF" and joked about her being "mentally retarded" and her husband wanting to be violated. Gay rights activist Dan Savage ripped her as a "scumbag" and a "grifter."
Rolling Stone's Matt Taibi – who penned this lovely farewell to Andrew Breitbart – referred to Bachmann as "batshit crazy" and a "psychopath" with "Terminator-testicles." Washington Post columnist Colby King referred to the candidate as "Barbie with fangs."
On the Stephanie Miller radio show, one of the sidekicks wished Bachmann would be fed deadly "listeria-filled canteloupe," and at another time Miller herself pondered if Bachmann hadn't already had an abortion.
Probably the insult which drew the largest sense of outrage from the public was Newsweek's embarrassing cover of a wide-eyed Bachmann next to the headline "Queen of Rage." CNN's Carol Costello did ask if "Republican women" are "unfairly criticized because they're women?"
And Howard Kurtz added that liberal media pundits like Bill Maher and Ed Schultz, who have made outrageous comments in the past about conservative women, can rightfully be held to the same standard as Rush Limbaugh. However, he had already questioned the validity of Michele Bachmann's rightful complaints about "no level of vitriol that's beyond the pale" for conservative women. Just because Bachmann opened herself to criticism by running for president doesn't mean the vile abuse should still have occurred.
Earlier in the segment, Kurtz and CNN host Brooke Baldwin also played up the fact that Limbaugh had attacked a law student and not a "major political figure" – forgetting that the student Sandra Fluke is herself an activist and testified before Congress, thus placing herself in the public square. [Video below.]
A transcript of the segment, which aired on March 6 on Newsroom at 2:56 p.m. EST, is as follows:
HOWARD KURTZ: But there's something about this – you know, because Rush has used some inflammatory language over the years, but something about the use of the word "slut" aimed at a specific young woman who nobody ever heard of before that really has created something of a crisis for him.
(...)
BROOKE BALDWIN: You mentioned the student here. It got a couple of us thinking, sort of, if there maybe is a pattern when it comes to the target. Because you know the story of Don Imus who lost his job for what he said about students, right? Some members of the Rutgers college basketball team. In Limbaugh's case, this is a third-year law student. I mean, we're not talking about pundits, we're not talking about major political figures who are on the airwaves each and every day. There's a difference, is there not?
HOWARD KURTZ: And that's precisely it, because Limbaugh can go on and on and on about Nancy Pelosi or Barack Obama. These are established public figures who have their own megaphones and can answer back and are used to being in the arena. It's the fact that he put a face on what the Democrats, in trying to capitalize on this, call the Republicans' "war on women," that he went after this young woman, Sandra Fluke, in such a personal way for daring to testify about something that she believes in, whether you agree with it or not, about access to birth control through health insurance plans, that has caused this backlash, one that I haven't seen a backlash of this magnitude, involving Limbaugh, despite all the controversies that he has been at the center of over the past two decades.
BALDWIN: Ever. Ever, you say?
KURTZ: That's correct.
BALDWIN: Yeah. I want to play a little sound. This is Michele Bachmann talking to Piers Morgan about this whole controversy. This was just last night. Take a listen.
(Video Clip)
Rep. MICHELE BACHMANN (R-Minn.): I have gone through, myself, an experience – more things said about me, and I have never seen this level of outrage on the left about what left-leaning commentators said about me.
PIERS MORGAN: That doesn't – that doesn't justify it –
BACHMANN: No really. I mean, honestly. It's – if you're a conservative woman, it seems like there is no level of vitriol that's beyond the pale. I've been on the receiving end of it. We all know Governor Palin has been on the receiving end of it. You don't see this level of outrage. You certainly don't see advertisers cutting back, and I think that maybe that's what we should learn out of all of this.
(End Video Clip)
BALDWIN: So that's her perspective. I mean, obviously, I read your piece in the Daily Beast. Basically, you're lead is the fact that this whole uproar is a gift to Democrats. But Howard, isn't this more about women, than the left or the right?
KURTZ: Well, the view on the conservative side, though, is that the issue should be about contraception and religious freedom, whether Catholic organizations should be forced to provide this kind of coverage. I mean, for Michele Bachmann to say that, it's a little bit of an unfair comparison because she ran for president. She willingly stepped into the arena, knowing that she was going to be the target of a lot of criticism. That's part of running for the White House.
A better comparison, I think, and what does suggest that there is a little bit of a double standard, would be comparing it to another pundit. Bill Maher has said – used some pretty incendiary language in talking about women. Ed Schultz of MSNBC used the slut word and then last year, he was suspended and apologized to Laura Ingram, the conservative radio talk show host.
Neither of those stories has ever been as big as this Limbaugh episode. But at the same time, Rush is a much bigger figure and more closely tied to the Republican party, which is why you have Republican candidates like Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich being asked about Rush's remarks, much bigger figure than these others. But there should be a consistent standard here, and it shouldn't just be let's all the people on the left beat up on a conservative when he says that and vice-versa when it's a liberal who talks his way into trouble.
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By the same logic, then,
Submitted by robert108 on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 7:20pm.
By the same logic, then, Fluck should have expected what she got, since she advocated for her entitlement in the public forum. Fair enough; why all the whining?
I've seen alot of feeble
Submitted by lesterwink23 on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 7:53pm.
I've seen alot of feeble justifications from the left regarding the detestable smears against conservative women like Gov. Palin and Rep. Bachmann since the Rush controversy began. They're public figures. They aren't held to the same standards as private citizens. They said mean things about others themselves, so they had it coming. Blah blah blah. Of course, the faintest criticism of the POTUS is not only off limits, it's most likely racist as well. Give me a break. Liberals really do think they can have their cake and eat it too. Pathetic.
Public figures
Submitted by wingnut55 on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 7:58pm.
I mean, for Michele Bachmann to say that, it's a little bit of an unfair comparison because she ran for president. She willingly stepped into the arena, knowing that she was going to be the target of a lot of criticism. That's part of running for the White House. For Kurtz to say this, I guess he has forgotten about the attacks on the Palin children. Did these children "step into the arena"? Letterman saying that Palin's 13 year old daughter, Willow, was having sex with A-Rod. That is O.K. to say. I don't remember any great calls for advertisers to drop his show. I didn't see any great cry from the NOW gang. These people are just pitiful.
Thanks Howie*
Submitted by cajun2 on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 8:05pm.
So you are saying that if you run for President be prepared for name calling. I am going to assume you meant we can forget about being pc and civil...
Howie has now given me permission to call Obama what he really is ...a Muslim commie f****t.
Jeez, that was awful even from me. Think I will stick with civil.
Hi there C2
Submitted by bobsmom on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 9:03pm.
is it too late for me to throw my hat in the ring? I would give Odumbo's left fig to be in the arena. Is my life pristine? Hell no, but, as I like to tell people, this year, I will be celebrating the 28th anniversary of my 30th birthday, and I think that puts me happily at least 30 years past give a shit. I'm nobody. But that gives me the power not to have anything to lose, if youknow what I mean. So, I can say anything, do anything, and admit to anything in my past willingly. And I think the left would not know what do do with me. Bobsmom in 2016 if all else fails.
Bobsmom
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 9:08pm.
Ha ha, you count your b'days the same way I do.....anniversaries of my big 30! Mine is coming up shortly (oddly, my b'day is my NB anniv date) too. A "hump" birthday....after this one, I'll be on the downward slide to another zero one, gah!
I'd vote for you.
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Bobsmom and Blonde*
Submitted by cajun2 on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 9:21pm.
MOL's are funny. I have a birthday every 22 yrs. I am about to have my third birthday. If I had the money, I would run for office, especially Mary Landriu's job. I certainly have the push but Ms Quinn would not like my language and says I should be full of shame..
If Obama is re elected, then America should be ashamed.
Thank you !!
Submitted by bobsmom on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 9:23pm.
And I'd ALWAYS put my money where my mouth isn't I am SO lucky that I work for a company that is owned/operated by a group of YOUNG conservative men. We're in healthcare, and VERY successful, so there is no way I'd ever make them public by naming them. That being said, I was just at a table yesterday with the President of our company who said "*%5nSell" (my last name) we'd support you in a minute if you ran for office. So, I may be living in a fairy tale world, but I don't think so. As long as there was anyone willing to stand up on a day to day basis and tell these idiots where the bear shit in the buckwheat, I really think we'd have a chance.
Even though liberals
Submitted by okie-pastor on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 10:01pm.
Even though liberals constantly provoke conservatives to devolve to their level of insults and name calling. We must resist the temptation. Because if we don't we will give them a bat of indignation to beat us with. As Rush found out.
They know they are hypocrites but it doesn't matter because they don't have standards to live by, but they know conservatives do and will make sure to remind us when we slip.
I hope people are catching on to what the media is doing
Whoo hoo
Submitted by bobsmom on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 8:55pm.
the floodgates are open then, are Michelle, Sasha, and Malia off limits? I would never go there, the list of things that are verboten when it comes to O'dumbo are so long and complicated, that we don't know what to say any more. But if the slate is clean, how about, he is a freaking ignorant dumba$$ who has never experienced any of the sacrifice that 60% of the US population has and if he sat down and shut up tomorrow, the world would be a better place.............ahhh, I DO feel better now.
bobsmom
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 9:16pm.
I think Michelle is a fair target. Calista has been, so has Santorum's wife and Romney's.
Good evening mom and Rad
Submitted by cocodrie on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 9:23pm.
Our side is acting like gentlemen towards the Obama girls but not so for the scum that harassed the Bush girls. I'll let it go at that so that I can remain a gentleman for tonight.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Hey 1979
Submitted by bobsmom on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 9:35pm.
My life has been based on walking into the homes of total strangers, and selling them on the idea that I'm the healthcare professional that can change their lives, And, I have the facts and outcomes, that an verify that. That being said, I know I have impacted thousands of lives. Michelle's life, however, if her "smile" is what is more important, has had the most impact on dentists, as they have no interest in duplicating that evil grin on any of us.
Bobsmom*
Submitted by cajun2 on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 9:38pm.
Are you and Ms Rad drinking the same stuff tonight? Cause you guys are on a roll.
rofl
⇒ No, they're not off-limits
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 9:40pm.
Remember when President Obama expressed personal concern one of his daughters might be "punished with a baby"?
Well, today, naming his daughters as beneficiaries of Ms. Fluke's
ability to lie to the American peoplebravery, revealed he told Ms. Fluke her parents should be proud.So, here we have the President, bringing up his young daughters, in a statement about how proud Ms. Fluke's parents should be?
CA
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 9:52pm.
Now really, we can't use Sasha and Malia. We might hurt their feelings and we wouldn't want to do that to those poor girls.
U.S. president Barack Obama has also in the past publicly voiced concerns about the habits of their children, saying that Malia had become 'a little chubby'. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1247254/Michelle-Obama-puts-daug...
President Obama marked the first anniversary of his election on Wednesday by calling on states to toughen their education standards – and wound up calling on parents to toughen theirs, too, as he confessed that his 11-year-old daughter, Malia, recently got a 73 on her science test.
I'd never
Submitted by panzerakc on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 4:22am.
even think to say unkind things about the Obama girls.
I figure their parentage is enough of a burden.
9 bucks for OCP's at Walmart and Target--mono or triphasic
Submitted by merly1 on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 9:43pm.
No insurance needed. Shouldnt lying about this bring harsh criticisms?
Kurts Rules
Submitted by brerol on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 11:38pm.
By Kurts definition of media rules then I suppose it would be acceptable to use foul language in describing Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton.
exactly
Submitted by lotr on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 2:12pm.
It's a pathetic, lame excuse. Don't fall for the sophistry. Attacks against Bachman (as Palin) were sexist in nature. Period.
And what about the hypocrisy factor?! We are told that the reason we will hear more about Republican sex scandals is because of the hypocrisy factor. Republicans preach against adultery, so we're told, so they are held to a higher standard. Never mind the logical self-contradiction that neolibs don't believe in moral standards, that it's all relative. We're told that the Repubs are fair game because of the hypocrisy factor.
So where is the hypocrisy factor when it comes to Democrat men behave as manifest misogynists?! Shouldn't we be hearing even more when it's someone like multi-millionaire Democrat-misogynist Bill Maher?
I've seen Howie
Submitted by JohnTBissell on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 7:29am.
interviewed on the BBC and when he thinks no one is looking and he's feels he can speak his mind he is hard left. No surprise here.
What about...
Submitted by LastKnownOne on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 8:56am.
What about "Joe the plumber"? Didn't the media and political figures insult him and go after him with a vengence and wasn't he a PRIVATE CITIZEN. Oh, that's right, his question and comments didn't go along with THEIR narrative, so it is OK.
So, suddenly... just like
Submitted by Immortal Fish on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 1:14pm.
So, suddenly... just like that... all of a sudden the Tea Party is not racist for disagreeing with the president? After all, he not only ran for President, but he even became one. He should have expected the "verbal abuse."
These people don't listen to themselves. It is obvious they are incapable of critical thinking.
Michele Bachmann
Submitted by 1611 LilacLady on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 3:54pm.
I just love her. She hasn't swayed from Tea Party standards. And she hasn't swayed from her belief in Jesus Christ as her Saviour. She was in a major spiritual battle when she attempted the political waters for a run for the Presidency.
God Bless you Michele and your husband!