AZ Aftermath: Halperin Condemns Conservatives for Not 'Turning Other Cheek'
NewsBusters has exhaustively documented the ways in which the liberal media and Dem politicians have sought to exploit the Arizona shootings, seeking to pin blame on a range of Republicans and conservative media figures.
It was thus nothing short of surreal to listen to MSNBC analyst Mark Halperin this morning. Surveying the situation, Halperin praised the media and politicians for their reaction to the shooting . . . while condemning Fox News and conservative pundits for treating the tragedy like "war and fodder for content."
When Joe Scarborough rightly suggested that Halperin had it backwards, the Time man wouldn't back down. View video after the jump.
MARK HALPERIN: I just want to single out one thing. I don't want to over-generalize but I think the media and the politicians have behaved pretty well so far. The thing I'm most concerned about now is the anger on the right-wing commenatariat: on Fox, and George Will, and other conservatives are, in some cases justifiably upset at liberals. But they're turning this right now, in the last 24 hours, back into the standard operating procedure of all of this is war and fodder for content, rather than trying to bring the country together.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: Wait a second, Mark. I think they would say that you have that backwards. That a shooting was turned into fodder to attack conservatives.
HALPERIN: And I, and I, and I already made that criticism as well. They're right. But rather than seizing on it and turning the other cheek, they are back at their war stations. And that's not going to help us.
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Good grief! Halperin and
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 8:39am.
Good grief! Halperin and those of his liberal ilk are the ones clearly treating the tragedy like "war and fodder for content." How hypocritical can he get?
Why cant we be honest: the left seems to hope any attack is
Submitted by merly1 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:42am.
PROOF OF RIGHTWINGERS GONE WILD!!!!! :o) We see these accusations with every shooting: Time Square bomber, the IRS plane guy, the Ft Hood massacre, Tuscon, etc.
This time, yet again, the left's warped fantasies are dashed............
Yeah, it's my dream
Submitted by StarAZ on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:10am.
It's my dream to "behave" in the way this person wants. He is right in there stirring and stirring, I see...fire burn and cauldron bubble... I love how these people make the leap so effortlessly--people in the streets protesting, this just "must" inflame people...Just "must." They have no evidence, much less proof! Just their deeply held conviction...why sure, it must, it just makes sense. I see THEY are inflamed and looking for a camera--that's all I see. Like that sheriff in Pima county. We have some camera hog sheriffs here as you might have heard.
Sarah called these pusillaminous idiots out properly
Submitted by TheHistorian on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 10:15am.
Sarah Palin accused them of "blood libel". Now the sycophants have something like "death panels" with which to remember themselves.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70B3W320110112
"Palin said blame should rest "not with all the citizens of a state, not with those who listen to talk radio, not with maps of swing districts used by both sides of the aisle, not with law-abiding citizens who respectfully exercise their First Amendment rights at campaign rallies, not with those who proudly voted in the last election."
GO SARAH!!! Let's hear Paul Krugman cry and whine about being read out by a GIRL!!!
Dennis Prager
An apology would help
Submitted by KC Mulville on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 8:44am.
In the first place, perhaps we now know why conservatives are at a "war station" to begin with. Second, Halperin might admit that the right-wing was screwed by both left-wing and "moderate" news outlets, but that certainly isn't an apology. The outlets certainly haven't apologized.
Democrats and the media have take quite a few cheap shots. Halperin admits it, but he's annoyed that conservatives fought back.
Good.
They got ahead of the facts, exposing their inherent . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:48am.
. . . liberal bias and professional jealousy of talk radio and Fox News, and Halperin wants to cover his tracks by ------- blaming conservatives.
The Left spews venom, and then demands that its target sit still in silence and "turn the other cheek."
No apologies for getting the story wrong. Just scold the folks that got it right for pointing out that the Left was wrong.
like some others said here I
Submitted by Hoosier Conservative on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:17pm.
like some others said here I think the media are starting to realize they were wrong and no one bought their lies, so they are hoping they can sweep this under the rug now. Halperin is basically saying please don't remind the voters in 2012 that we did this.
When is the last time the MSM
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:56pm.
When is the last time the MSM or any of these out-of-touch politicans EVER aplogized for 'getting it wrong' on just about any level??? And personally, I wouldn't pay two cents for an apology anyway, because that's about what it would be worth..........just let'em be who they are, because more and more people are finally realizing what useless and worthless dweebs they are.
Standard liberal line
Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 8:57am.
Just like every time Israel responds to an attack, they are "perpetuating the cycle of violence."
How DARE they fight back!!
rather than turning the other cheek.... Oh. My. Gawd.
It's time for conservatives to shut up and take it?
It's been 5 days of beating this drum. How long before someone in the MSM produces a "poll" that shows a majority (or at least a plurality) of Americans blame conservatives for pushing this guy over the edge?
Hold Your Ground
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:32am.
Michelle Malkin has condensed a decade of hate from the left that has been ignored or condoned by the lamestream. I've bookmarked it for reference.
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-...
Leftist hatred...
Submitted by adamsmith on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:52am.
This lefty hatred has been going strong for a decade is right. Since Gore lost the election, they have been besides themselves. Brought about two of the biggest propaganda machines: The DailyKos and Huffington Post as well as Media Matters. All created to destroy Fox News and Talk Radio. The only problem for them is most people get informed on the internet and are not fed the swill anymore from the big three networks. Progressivism is dying...They are being exposed more and more for what they are and what they believe. It'll take awhile to kill this beast because it basically has to kill itself with the Dem laws of unintended consequences, like this twisting news to fit their narrative. Any exposure of facts shows how dishonest they truly are. It's the end for them, and they're too brainwashed and stupid to see it coming.
By the way, Mark Halperin makes me sick. He's a media elite pansy........
Only George Orwell could make this stuff up...
Submitted by Grym on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 8:48am.
The Ministry of Truth spouts what they want the masses to consume during their two minutes of hate. While tossing the pages of history and fact down the memory hole....
Halperin did it right before our very eyes and ears... he is a good member of the Outer Party and does his job well in the Propdep.
It becomes increasingly
Submitted by celator on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:21am.
It becomes increasingly amazing how Orwell got so many details of the current government and media correct. He captured the coldness and control aspect perfectly.
I see that...
Submitted by BookinWeasel on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 8:56am.
Mr. Halperin is towing the party line at his new diggs.....I always tell my kids to stop digging the hole (lie) deeper because it only makes it harder to get out of.....
When Halpren says " That's
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 8:58am.
When Halpren says " That's Not Going To Help Us ", he is referring to democrats having a snowball's chance in hell of winning in 2012.
Guess what.......he's absolutely right.
Barack_Must_Go.....
surreal...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:07am.
...doesn't even BEGIN to describe this!
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
And if the conservatives
Submitted by phryingphish on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:21am.
And if the conservatives don't fight back, but do turn the other cheek, the left will say "See, they don't deny it, they admit to being the catalyst of this event." Whatever event is happening at the time.
Fight (euphemism) for the right to be right, don't become a target (euphemism) of the left. Put the Democrats in your cross hairs (euphemism) and target (euphemism) their worthless programs. Cross swords (euphemism) with them whenever you can, and stamp out (euphemism) their bigotry (NOT a euphemism).
Well Said...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:35am.
...Your post was of a high caliber (euphemism) and really scored a direct hit (euphenism ) on the bullseye (euphemism). I expect the left will go ballistic (euphemism) when none of their charges (euphemism) stick, causing their heads to explode (Not a euphemism).
bigdaddy---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:36pm.
phryingphish gets an A. Your reply to him gets an A+. Nice job. MDThis is What I'm Talking About!
Submitted by cobokat on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:27am.
I watched this segment in amazement!! Not once did Mark Halperin say the Daily Kos or Media Matters needs to tone it down yet thinks Fox and others should not defend themselves. This is what happened to the Bush Administration-they NEVER defended themselves against the media and that turned out to be a HUGE MISTAKE!
Turn The Other Cheek?
Submitted by GeneralAl on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:36am.
What Hellperin is saying is "Lets pretend that none of this happened from the MSM". The evidence is starting to come out and it will be used as fodder against the jerks! The same kind of garbage they invented during the Tea Party rallies was thrown here. Just shows how stupid the Liberals are when it comes to opening theirt mouths! It kind of reminds me of "A vast right wing conspiracy moment"!
http://www.generalpatriot.com
"Old Soldiers never die, they just fade away"!
Mark Halperin is despicable.
Submitted by Kansasgirl on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:36am.
Mark Halperin is despicable.
Say that again with a Daffy
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:46am.
Say that again with a Daffy Duck voice. :-)
Shooter attended Bill Ayers School
Submitted by celator on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:38am.
Watch how the MSM will avoid THIS connection:
"Bill Ayers, communist provided Arizona shooter's curriculum?"http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=249429
Conservatives must turn the other cheek.
Submitted by Red Jeep on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:40am.
So both cheeks can be slapped.
Now you've got it, Jeep.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:20am.
Turn both cheeks; get the shiite slapped out of both; then apologize for getting your face in the way when they swing at you!
Conservatives must be bipartisan too...
Submitted by Red Jeep on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:00pm.
...always agreeing with everything Democrats want.
"They (Republicans) are
Submitted by WarEagle66 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:41am.
"They (Republicans) are right, but that doesn't mean we (Leftists) are going to change how we feel about them and will continue to lie, and lie over and over."
I am officially living in Bizarro world...
Submitted by Chris Of Rights on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:41am.
Up is down. Black is white. Right is wrong.
Not one sincere concern for the real victims
Submitted by Cyborg 0427 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:44am.
These morons are doing everything they can to make the shooter the victim in this. What they are trying to say is Halprin is the victim of us evil conseratives and our hate speech. I have to believe that most sane Americans are intelligent enough to see right through this tripe.
KUDOS to Bill O'Reilly
Submitted by Texndoc on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:51am.
Never thought I would say that recently, but he came out with guns ablazen' (no I'm not taking that down) yesterday as did Rush, Mark Levin, and Glenn Beck.
You can bet this tool is worried. I'd say OReilly's audience compared to his or Andre Mitchell's was 100 to 1. And Rush Limbaugh is currently in the Drudge Report Headlines with the idiotic sheriff focused on HIM and not knowing anything about a "skull shrine" for his most famous mass murderer.
but he came out with guns
Submitted by Newsbusterbrown on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:58am.
but he came out with guns ablazen' (no I'm not taking that down)
Good. None of us need to "tone down" that type of language, since everybody with a functioning brain knows that it's not going to incite anybody to violence.
“There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
The problem is people without a functioning brain.
Submitted by blablablather on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:08am.
Then they should be
Submitted by Newsbusterbrown on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:17am.
Then they should be institutionalized if they can't function in our society.
“There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Who decides? Who pays?
Submitted by blablablather on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:27am.
What's the alternative?
Submitted by Newsbusterbrown on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:41am.
What's the alternative? Everybody shuts up? Violent movies and video games banned?
“There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Sick of liberal psycho babble
Submitted by sam12663 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:51am.
NBB: you are so spot on. My generation grew up watching the 3 Stooges and Saturday morning cartoons, and there was nothing more violent than Moe hitting Curly with a hammer to the head, or Wile E Coyote getting blown up numerous times. Did we see that happening in every 10 year old kids house? Don't think so.
Liberals are so quick to blame society for all the worlds ill's, yet they don't seem to get the fact that personal responsibility is what needs to be stressed.
NBB: you are so spot on. My
Submitted by Newsbusterbrown on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:07am.
NBB: you are so spot on. My generation grew up watching the 3 Stooges and Saturday morning cartoons, and there was nothing more violent than Moe hitting Curly with a hammer to the head, or Wile E Coyote getting blown up numerous times. Did we see that happening in every 10 year old kids house? Don't think so.
I grew up on the Stooges, Wile E. Coyote and many other "violent" kid shows during the '70s myself, yet the vast majority of us grew up without becoming violent ourselves. Amazing, huh? ;-)“There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
No - you are definitely on to something...
Submitted by blablablather on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:05am.
We are all grown up enough to be able to determine when someone should be put away, or maybe at least not be allowed to buy firearms and ammo. We just have to get the will to do it. We can do so much when we put our mind to it.
Who is this "we" Kemosabe?
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:15am.
Ted?
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If Sheriff Dipstick had done his job...............
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:54pm.
And actually did something all the times his deputies contacted this nut, he would have been listed under DOJ as a mental heath risk, and been DENIED the right to buy the gun in the first place. Put the blame where it belongs here......The Pima County Sheriffs Dept.....Sheriff Dipstick commanding!!
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
ha ha
Submitted by Hoosier Conservative on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:57pm.
I thought about calling him Dumbnik but Dipstick is pretty funny.
Typical liberal crap
Submitted by sam12663 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:44am.
'Its not the shooters fault; its society's fault for not taking care of him.'
PUHLLEEEZE!
Where were his parents? His teachers? Friends? Not one person stepped up to help this obviuosly troubled guy, yet here we are, getting psycho babble from a liberal about how society is to blame. WAH WAH WAH.
Who?
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:27am.
Who decides?
The school knew about this whack job; the cops were aware of him, his parents apparently were aware of him. They decided to do nothing.
Who pays?
A federal judge; a nine year old girl; several others; and a congresswoman with a bullet in her brain. That's who paid.
You want to get pissed off at someone, start with the sheriff who was apparently clueless, and still is.
Bubba, found this link at Gio's blog
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:28am.
Curiouser and curiouser.
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Fortunately....
Submitted by blablablather on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:45am.
We can't just lock up people without some process. Process costs money. What happened is the result of there being no process. For there to be a process there needs to be a will. And can there be a middle ground. Some people are OK in society, but should not have a gun. My brother-in-law for example...
Process costs money??
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:51am.
How about the cost of a 9 year old girl? Once upon a time, people like this guy used to be taken care of and dealt with but because of the wonderful litigious society we seem to have, that's not the case anymore.
You say process costs money, that's the same line of thinking that makes up the death panels by the Chairman himself "rather than give grandma a pacemaker, give her a pain pill." No value on life, in other words. That's a typical liberal idea.
-Jon
And what have you done about your BIL?
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:54am.
You say that he shouldn't have a gun, in your opinion.
Have you notified the authorities that he's not stable?
Or are you just waiting to be notifed that he took out a bunch of school children?
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Unfortunately...
Submitted by blablablather on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:09pm.
There is no law that prevents him from having a gun.
Which is pretty much my point. No process.
Yet you infer he's unstable in some way
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:27pm.
Have you reported him to authorities?
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Trust me
Submitted by blablablather on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:31pm.
Local police know all about him. And there's not a thing they or I can do if he wants a gun.
Again, you're ducking your own question
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:50pm.
Okay, I'll take it as given that he's a loon, and the local authorities know about it.
So, what do YOU want the government to do? Or, "we" as you used numerous times before?
Come on now, think hard. Try to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem.
Be creative. Offer up some suggestions.
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OK
Submitted by blablablather on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 1:16pm.
We need to pass a test to drive a car. How about a test to get a gun.
And that would prevent disaster how?
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 2:11pm.
So crazy lunatic passes the gun test...now what?
Anyone can pass a test, particularly those government administered tests like for a drivers license. Or can't your BIL read?
What would be on this test you're proposing?
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I think that blahblah has another problem, blonde.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 2:27pm.
Sounds to me like he probably has POed his BIL in the past and is afraid of the dude!
Can't figure out how that happened! Probably said something to BIL when he caught him listening to Rush or watching Fox News.
Well
Submitted by blablablather on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 3:22pm.
Imagine if we just gave out driver's licenses without any driver's ed or eye exams how much worse it might be? Gun license would not stop killing, but it might reduce it. Weapons education can't be bad, can it? Might create some jobs. I think all gun owners should have the respect for a weapon that they teach in the military. What test would you like to know that man next to you with a Glock in his hand passed?
Explain how gun licensing
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 3:51pm.
Explain how gun licensing would reduce killings?
I also ask you again, how many of those people who passed the driver's test commit vehicular homicide? Is it then the fault of the car manufacturers or the drivers?
Would you also want to bring back competency testing for voting?
problem with that
Submitted by Hoosier Conservative on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 3:38pm.
I'm not a law expert or anything but to me there is a small yet important difference. When I took driver's ed in school I remember being told that driving is a priviledge and not a right. If you pay to keep a license, pay for insurance, and obey a thousand traffic laws, you're granted the priviledge of owning a car. As soon as we start treating guns with that same attitude then we're basically telling people you don't have a basic right to own a gun.
We already make pharmacies spend a bunch of time documenting IDs to buy sudafed for a cold, but that hasn't done much to slow down teen drug use. I'm tired of everyday necessities being hidden behind a "pay wall" or a "license wall" by the government.
Gun licensing has but one purpose, dummy
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 3:58pm.
And that is so the government will know exactly which doors to kick in when it decides it is time to come and grab our guns.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Hundreds of millions of guns, tens of millions of gun owners
Submitted by blablablather on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 4:22pm.
Which doors will they break down first? A little paranoid, eh?
Lets just get rid of driver's licenses then, too. Just more bureacracy. More tax dollars down the drain.
Blatard has a point
Submitted by ckc1227 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 5:43pm.
Clearly Loughner would have thought differently about going on a shooting spree if he had taken a gun class. Respect for his gun would have prevented it. Kind of like how drivers license testing prevents drunk driving.
Pfffft.
No, but tougher regulations
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 6:05pm.
No, but tougher regulations have reduced the incidence of drunk driving. Do you advocate a relaxation of those laws inasmuch as the problem hasn't been completely eliminated?
Jer
And how many of those people
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 2:57pm.
And how many of those people who passed the driver's test commit vehicular homicide? Is it then the fault of the car manufacturers or the drivers?
If he actually is
Submitted by UpNorth on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 2:59pm.
a danger to himself or someone else, how's about you go to court, fill out the paperwork and have your BiL committed for a mental evaluation? If that's available in the state you live in? The responsibility lies with those who know him, not the police, not the doctors, not the sheriff, not the political parties.
If there are police reports on his "instability", have you made sure those reports have been forwarded to the proper authorities, so that, if he attempts to purchase a gun, the sale will be blocked?
BS!!!!!!!
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:58pm.
Had the deputies brought him in for a psych eval, he would NEVER have been able to get it, because the DOJ would have a record of it, and prevented it. Dont hand me this BS..."there was nothing anyone could do"....that is pure crap!!!!
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
Don't tick Zippers off, B -
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:14pm.
This new personna could be one of those emotionally unstable Vets* about to snap like DHS has been warning us about.
*A liberal, gun-hating "Vet", of course.
Not sure SOL*
Submitted by cajun2 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:32pm.
This new troll looks, to me, to be "unarmed" as we say in the south.
We shall see
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:51pm.
Like I said, I expect a new influx momentarily.
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HALPERIN: And I, and I, and I
Submitted by Newsbusterbrown on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:55am.
HALPERIN: And I, and I, and I already made that criticism as well. They're right. But rather than seizing on it and turning the other cheek, they are back at their war stations. And that's not going to help us.
The "us" meaning Democrats/liberals/progressives, of course.
While I'm not as angry as I was on 9/11, I'm damn close to it. If the Left thinks we are going to allow them to roll over us based on their despicable lies, they have another thing coming.
“There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Get Halperin a cell
Submitted by HockeyKid on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:57am.
right next to Loughner. They're both psycho.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Just Amazing
Submitted by Wiiliam1972 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:08am.
I was watching this moron this morning in a sort of stunned disbelief.
His stammering was the first clue that he knew he'd gone too far for even MSNBC.
straight jacket
Submitted by americanjarhead on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:11am.
Lets see, ok I've got it. The snow storms are because of global warming. How's that sound ?
Check out O'Reilly
Submitted by needle on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:24am.
Last Night O’Reilly had his best show ever. He dedicated the whole show, except “the Back of the Book,” to exposing and lambasting outrageously irresponsible remarks by Sheriff Dupnik, the NYT, Paul Krugman and others on the Left blaming the AZ massacre on anyone on the Right they do not like or the Right itself.
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.
Agreeing with BOR....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 5:14pm.
really irritates me when I have to (agree with him). But, as he said last night (paraphrasing) the Left is loosing their minds (what little they have) because their progressive agenda FAILED and is being rejected by "thinking Americans".
This crap passes for intelligence?
Submitted by sam12663 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:35am.
How do people like Halperin continue to get invited back to provide analysis when he does nothing but speak out of his friggin ass?
Have you ever heard such doublespeak and reverse criticism? This is how I heard it; "I know that conservatives are justified in their outrage with the left using this tragedy as a political football, but THEY should just turn their collective cheek and accept it, be the better people, and move forward".
The liberal mind is a terrible thing.
It's easy Sam.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:33am.
The MSM has a pretty low cull factor for who or what they will invite to make comments.
Just look at the morons who host the shows!
I would say they need to get more straight shooters to appear, but that could incite violence.
Newsbubba, or worse yet......
Submitted by NavyBuckeye on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:56pm.
they might hurt someone's feelings.
Halperin and his Babble`
Submitted by NVRAT on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:41am.
Here we go again. The Left Wing Idiots are trying everything to take the attention away from the fact that Loughner was a LEFT WING LOONIE. Calling for more civil diatribe but, for whom are they really refering to? if you watch all of the big time lefties Olberman, Maddow, Matthews, Behr etc. they are the ones that spew out the hate and vile using sub culture language calling others names and throwing around enuendos condemming conservatives and right wing idiology. So, who are the real demons of dialogue? only those of us that pay attention know who the real culprits are. I dare say MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC and CNN.should look at their programming for the answer, or is the hate to over whelming to see the truth.
Pfah!
Submitted by fenngibbon on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:47am.
Wretched conservatives! How dare you complain when liberals kick you in the googlies!
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Submitted by im41 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:10am.
Liberals are the violent ones
Taking it lying down or not
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:14am.
This is absolutely distressing and depressing. I am heartened that Rush, BOR, and etc are fighting back(saw some of BOR last night for the first time in a while, boy, he was pissed), Fox News is fighting back by focusing on that dipstick dupnik idiot and so on, but damn, it's mentally and emotionally tiring wading through all that crap!
Mark, you and the rest of NB deserve a medal for dealing with it, that's a helluvalot of material to put out in so short of a time. You guys brought to life in black and white the war between the left and right, between those that value freedom and those that want to take it away.
It's easy to see who is the bigger danger to everyone in this country, and it's definitely not the shooter who did what he did. It's the people like dipstick, clyburn, schultz, anyone and everyone who subscribe to the idea that conservatives are responsible for this.
-Jon
Still haven't gotten a public statement from...
Submitted by Nathaniel Hawthorne on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:22am.
...O's friend Bill Ayers on this one.
Care to share, Bill?
Or his wife Bernadine Dohrn.
Submitted by Red Jeep on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:29am.
Or his wife Bernadine Dohrn.
So a left-leaning, dope smoking, maggot-infested, anarchist/...
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:33am.
...communist/conspiricay kook grabs a gun and shoots some people, and we of the conservative persuasion are supposed to cease and desist from further ctritcism of what the communist left is currently doing to our country.
I don't think so.
Up yours, Halperin.
Sideways.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Admission is not an apology
Submitted by Hoosier Conservative on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:50am.
Sounds like what Bill Clinton said to Juanitta after assaulting her, you better put some ice on that. Halperin admitted the media did something terrible and then basically said conservatives should just deal with it. Keep it media, more people are rejecting you and 2012 will be another loss for you.The mask was ripped off violently this time
Submitted by Tomorama on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:12pm.
I live in Massachusetts and read both dailys.....
The Herald which is the supposed right-wing paper had TWO columnists write the day after this blaming Palin, talk radio, right wingers etc, etc
The comments section lambasted them and rightfully so as they made their minds up with no facts to back them up (yes Obama, THEY jumped to conclusions).
Today Margery Eagan writes another column but today says "he is just all over the map", BUT she ONLY mentions his love for Gold and the constitution as proof that he was part right -winger.
No mention of the FACTS that he approached Gabby in 2007 LONG before Palin and the tea partiers, typical of this type.
Or that one of his friends said he was a dope smoking left winger.
The comments are again hammering her, but the apologists are wondering "why are we so upset and angry" totally DISCOUNTING THE COLUMN SHE WROTE THE OTHER DAY.
JUST LIKE Hellperin here. HOW DARE WE STICK UP FOR OURSELVES?
Lastly, the Globe, the progressive paper in town has ALLOWED NO COMMENTS ON THE SUBJECT AT ALL (thus the lefties are getting their asses kicked on he Herald site instead).
THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES about liberal thinking.
This. +1000
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:59pm.
No mention of the FACTS that he approached Gabby in 2007 LONG before Palin and the tea partiers, typical of this type.
I've been wanting to post that sentiment for a bit, now.
Also, there are always lunatics who are apolitical and just plain nuts. Remember the man who boarded himself into the one room schoolhouse and killed all of those little Mennonite girls about fifteen years ago?
The democrats and liberal media have really jumped the shark this time by viciously and falsely trying to tie this crackpot to conservatives. And now they've compounded their problem (hee hee) by wratcheting up the rhetoric about "tolerance", all the while acting like the most intolerant boobs on the planet.
I hope Obama uses this opportunity to further stick his foot in it, we know he won't be able to resist (okay 5% that he does it right). If anyone knows about acting "stupidly", it's Obama. I'm predicting it's going to be Wellstone V.2.0 tomorrow.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
and....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 5:16pm.
that he's been having "issues" since he was about 14 years old.
Warning: crude response
Submitted by Hunter12 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:15pm.
The liberals aren't asking us to turn the other cheek, they're asking us to bend over. Go back to a tea party rally last summer and look at the signs. They say stuff like "stop spending our money" or "No Obamacare". It takes a liberal to read hate into that. As a exercise, go back and look at an SEIU rally. The signs there are Palin as Hilter, Bush as the Devil, "Kill fill in the blank conservative", and so on. There, you have to be blind and deaf not to see the hate. The Conservatives are right to stand up and say "Not this time" to these idiots. This is a tragedy that can't be laid on our doorstep. Don't allow any lib to get away with this crap.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
Hunter, please see this. Use
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 1:21pm.
Hunter, please see this. Use the info to counter libs.
I don't know what universe Halperin lives in...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:36pm.
but it isn't the same one that most of the rest of us reside in.
Liberal politicians, pundits, bloggers and the leftist press have spent the last 3 days accusing, trashing and condemning the right for all manner of things, and but despite all that, somehow we're at fault because we're not "turning the other cheek"? Oh man....The fact that this fool not only actually believes this backward crap but was actually willing to go on tv and say it, is nothing short of stunning...Looks to me like the Arizona shooter might not be the only one who doesn't have a grip on reality here.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Same old Same old
Submitted by Ashrak on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 12:44pm.
As it always is when it boils right down to it, the leftist try to make self defense the problem.
Halperin's Bizarro World
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 4:42pm.
Halperin thinks George Will is illogical and someone to fear?
What's next, Halperin afraid Krauthammer will run him over in his wheelchair or use Vulcan mind-meld techniques to brainwash him?
Halperin is intellectually shallow and a coward.
Halperin and Morning Joe...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 5:31pm.
One thing is certain: A 40-second clip doesn't provide anything close to the context gained from listening to the entire seven minute segment [particularly the last couple of minutes].
I would urge you to do so. It is the one depicting Halperin and referring to "heated rhetoric" and can be accessed by scrolling the series of video clips on the left. There will still be areas of disagreement to be sure, but I think you'll conclude the discussion to have been more balanced than you suspect.
Jer
A personal note:
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:26pm.
I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank all of those--well, the few...okay, just the one person, to-wit, stratman,--who took the time to view the extended video and post their--his-- reactions. Your insights are not merely thought-provoking, but are also a valuable contribution to better understanding the varying ideological perspectives of those who, despite their political differences, still share a common love for this greatest of nations.
Once again, I...wait a minute...apparently I've stumbled into the wrong website. Never mind.
Hold on, the Gibraltar of fair-play and diligence, the incomparable stratman has single-handedly redeemed NewsBusters.
;-)
Jer
poster's note: edits to original post italicized
OK, I Watched the Video
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 8:35pm.
I heard platitudes from Halperin, nice one's to be sure, but nothing that exemplified the rhetoric coming from his own mouth. Scarborough, however, did chime in asap with criticism about those on the Right, his criticism for those on the Left appearing to me a stuttering afterthought for "balance".
Since you are trained in verbal jousting and legal strategy - never ask a question you don't already know the answer - you do have facts to back up your support of Halperin, such as Halperin's specific and exclusive criticism of those on the Left... replete with names, quotes, and context... since the shooting in Tucson?
Am I to assume you, and Halperin, would "turn the other cheek" when accused of horrific behavior such as being an accomplice to murder? How about wife beater? Child molestor? Drug peddler? You would remain silent over any of these spurious and vile charges during your public crucification?
Halperin's plea is a sham to deflect the wrong done by the Left in the wake of these murders and place a strawman burden back upon the maligned Right to "behave". Unlike the legal system where silence is not to be a measure of incrimination, a failure to respond to the malicious muckraking by the Left will further cement the lies the Left promotes to America and the world.
A response is appropriate and required. There needs to be consequences for the reckless, wanton, self-serving behavior or no one will learn a damn thing and it will happen again and again and again.
**** I watched the video and wrote the above without seeing your second post thanking everyone. ****
strat...previous post amended
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:25pm.
I will now read the entirety of your response.
Thanks.
Jer
Jer: You were too kind in
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:40pm.
Jer:
You were too kind in your post concerning me. I wonder if you feel the same after reading my post.
That's OK; let's watch him post similar comments on Rush's
Submitted by TheHistorian on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 10:22am.
comments that are 40-second sound bites out of 10 minute monologues. If he doesn't, he is the only one that doesn't bother. As an example, when Rush said "I hope he fails", the comment was a bite out of a monologue where he was talking about Obama's policies. I have yet to find a liberal who will quote the whole thing, so here is a link to the transcript:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011609/content/01125113.gues...
Dennis Prager
The Historian
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 6:50pm.
I printed out the entire transcript from Rush's website and read through it twice before first commenting. How often have you done likewise before posting your reaction to a sound bite by a lib?
Jer