**Updated with more transcription 11/12/08
As a follow up to my previous post on the media blowing off President-elect Barack Obama's conscription plan(which seems to be disappearing from the Obama transition team's site among many other agenda items, as Newsbuster Tom Blumer has discovered), Naked Emperor News has found some interesting audio of Rahm Emanuel, Obama's Chief of Staff appointee, talking to NY Daily News reporter Ben Smith in 2006 about his mandatory civil service plan. The idea was detailed in Emanuel's co-authored book, The Plan. (my emphasis added:)
SMITH: I meant to ask you about the universal service piece of the plan. Can you tell me about it? Like, how is this going to work? Are people going to live in barracks?
EMANUEL: Universal civil defense training…I think he had it at 18, but we were saying somewhere between the ages of 18 to 25, you will do three months of training. You can do it in your(inaudible). Some point in college you can do just that. There can be nothing wrong with all Americans having a joint similar experience of civil ...what we call civil defense training or civil service...some sense of service to country in preparation, which will give people a sense of what it means to be an American. We propose three months. At the end of the day someone says it should be four more. I’m not going to sit here and hold it up.SMITH: I mean it's a lot more than the U.S. government asks of anybody right now.
EMANUEL: Guess what? We have a lot more challenges, so we are going to need a lot to do it.
SMITH: I mean I don't mean to get hung up on the aesthetics of it, but like uniforms...is it like Europe...people go absent
EMANUEL: If you're worried about going to have to do 50 jumping jacks, the answer is "yes."
SMITH: Are you kinda shifting the "country-esque" Army bases in the Summers? I mean... I wonder how it's going work. This is people's experiences. It's so abstract. Do you go nine to five in some course in a Red Cross building?
EMANUEL: The whole idea there is it will be worked on you can do it through your State-National guard could be the vehicle for that. The goal here wasn't to sit here and work on piece of legislation for ya' and all that, but that's one venue of doing it.
SMITH: I'm a little hung up on the Barracks.
EMANUEL: Is there a reason? Do you want to talk about it? Do you have Blue Cross Blue Shield coverage on this? Are you worried about this in some capacity?
SMITH: No, I'm just...just curious
EMANUEL: Rather than figure out if you take a train ride or a barrack, think of it this way: it will be a common experience, and you'll be prepared. God forbid there's a chemical hit, there's another terrorist act, or a natural disaster (which are coming more frequent), there will be a body of citizens who are ready and capable and trained. That's all you have to think about. We're all here for you, ok? It's a circle of love.
Smith commented on the NY Daily News blog about Emanuel's reaction to his curiosity on the "universal service":
We also talked a bit about his new book, The Plan, written with Bruce Reed, and particularly about his argument for instituting some kind of universal service, in the form of civil-defense training. He found my interest in whether there will be barracks more amusing than I'd anticipated.
The mainstream media continues to ignore this plan, which is not necessarily unusual for them. However, considering the amount of youth voters who lined up for Obama this election season, it is truly unfortunate they are the last ones to find out about this "requirement" of the new Obama administration. The audio is uploaded at Eyeblast.tv.
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What would the punishment
November 11, 2008 - 18:51 ET by MidAmericaWhat would the punishment be for non-compliance and would Canada accept deserters as political refugees?
THREE Months??? Bet all the
November 11, 2008 - 19:06 ET by TN MomTHREE Months??? Bet all the college-age kids who voted for obama are vomiting up mass quanities of kool-aid!
...oh, and Emanuel suggests the National Guard could lead this commie program...
Just Curious...
November 11, 2008 - 19:16 ET by MeowMeowDidn't Germany require their youth to sign up for something, too? I can't remember exactly, as history lets us forget such things....the SS perhaps? Their leader was charasmatic as well.
I will give your President as much respect as you gave mine. -- bumper sticker I would really like to order but won't as I am afraid of bodily harm
meowmeow
November 11, 2008 - 20:14 ET by littlemissmuffinI believe you're referring to the Hitler Youth. I have a link to a video showing how Obama's youth is compared to Hitler's youth if you'd like to see it. Let me know and I'll post the link.
Nothing To See Here - Move Along
November 11, 2008 - 21:34 ET by stratmanThere is reason to be concerned, vigilant, and speak out.
§ Strat!!! You are Awesome!! PB?? Look at this!!
November 11, 2008 - 21:42 ET by TheSterObama: " Cows turn themselves INSIDEOUT ALL THE TIME!! Nothing to See here!! Move Along!!"
Sweet Strat!!
Ster.
I am a peripheral visionary. I can see the future, but only way off to the side.
Stratman
November 12, 2008 - 03:33 ET by DoktorFrankenI'm more of an SG man myself.
Doktor: If you're talking
November 13, 2008 - 03:11 ET by stratmanDoktor:
If you're talking Gibson's, I've got a sweet '61 Reissue with the '57 humbucks. Little spooky how the neck bends so easily, especially after playing tree trunks like Fenders and some Les Pauls.
Just for fun, here's Clapton and his painted SG. Watch the ciggy butt burn down.
I guess they got my message
November 11, 2008 - 19:28 ET by motherbeltI guess they got my message that said the words "universal" and "voluntary" were mutually exclusive.
So they decided to drop the "voluntary."
Now it's cloaked in the mantle of "patriotism.
Don't you love the phrasing?
There can be nothing wrong with all Americans having a joint similar
experience of civil ...what we call civil defense training or civil
service...some sense to country in preparation, which will give people
a sense of what it means to be an American.
Of course, there's always "nothing wrong" with whatever they want to force people to do; it's for their own good, you understand.
Money Quote:
Guess what? We have a lot more challenges, so we are going to need a lot to do it. (Translation: this three months service thing is just the beginning.)
Gird your loins!!
uh oh...
November 11, 2008 - 19:28 ET by Ascended Conservativewhat i fear about is that "test" Biden warned us about. if... i should say, when it does happen, it may result in more favor for Obama's gestapo. of course it won't be sold as such.
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If this was a Pres. Bush
November 11, 2008 - 19:33 ET by CoolShadesIf this was a Pres. Bush plan, the media would be red hot mad about this Compulsory Plan. It would be plastered and skewered on all the morning news shows, liberal blogs, network news and every liberal hack so-called analyst will be up in arms. We saw a taste of it when "draft" rumors were flying to scare young minds to vote Democrat. How ironic. This is a clear example the media is going to give Obama a pass on just about everything. I guess everything as long as they stay in-line with the program.
COMPULSORY SERVICE
November 11, 2008 - 19:33 ET by BRADENThis seems to conjure up pictures of arm bands and brown shirts. I guess the chosen one needs his own army.
My Patriotic Civil Duty
November 11, 2008 - 19:33 ET by TucsonicanActually, I kind of like this idea.
I've always wanted my own tank.
We're Screwed
November 11, 2008 - 19:34 ET by Lamb-chop"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
- Obama Manifesto
"We cannot expect the Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find they have Communism."
- Soviet Leader Nikita Khrushchev
Lamb chop... I agree.
November 11, 2008 - 20:47 ET by Clear thinkerLamb chop...
I agree. We're SCREWED!
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we're screwed if we stand
November 11, 2008 - 21:52 ET by TruthMongerwe're screwed if we stand by and do nothing
that's been the response thus far
...., which will give
November 11, 2008 - 19:38 ET by MidAmerica...., which will give people a sense of what it means to be an American.
That's a real puzzler. Being forced to work for your government will give you a sense of what it means to be an American? And all the time I thought NOT being forced to work for the government was what it meant to be an American.
What's the matter with Illinois?
November 11, 2008 - 19:44 ET by Jack HermanThey sent this clown and Obama to Washington.
Hey c'mon... don't
November 11, 2008 - 20:13 ET by MidAmericaHey c'mon... don't shortchange us. We have also provided the nation with dick durbin, hillary clinton, reverend wright, louis farrakon, jesse jackson, a couple of mayor daleys, al capone, we send our governors to prison....... Chicago, the city that keeps on giving. I believe it's just the states karma being evened out because we also provided Abraham Lincoln (plus Reagan's early years) so it takes a lot of dubious characters to balance the slate.
Here in Kansas
November 12, 2008 - 03:37 ET by Jack HermanWe keep the idiots instate and don't send them to Washington. Unless of course we're lucky enough to have our Governor move on.
Is it any wonder the gun
November 11, 2008 - 19:49 ET by bigtimerIs it any wonder the gun sales are going up big-time since Obama has been elected, this is such a perfect example.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
This is just a plan that a
November 11, 2008 - 19:50 ET by Dan The Man 2This is just a plan that a Chicago thug would come up with. Do felons and criminals fit into this compulsory plan. I guess they would be the leaders of such a force. We can all it MAFIA.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
How about CS (compulsory service) 13
November 11, 2008 - 20:34 ET by ahusser"...no civilization, no matter how rich, no matter how refined, can long survive once it loses the power to meet force with equal or superior force." - Bernard Knox
Unity
November 11, 2008 - 20:54 ET by iveseenitallCom'on. We need UNITY on this. Not a Red America, Not a Blue America, but One America, under One Rule. Besides, this is Compulsory! You Must Join or Face the Consequenses!
Told you so...America should...
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
i hate being in the place of defending a lefty in any way
November 11, 2008 - 20:39 ET by porpoiseboybut in the case of this interview, i think emanuel is proposing a compulsary service reqmnt similar to what they have in israel. i think we do ourselves a disservice when we just blast out at the left without a thought...i feel it has been done here. if you know emanuel's history of civilian service in israel you would have to say he at least comes by it by experience not from evil intention. and i really don't hear anyone complaining about or dissing israels compulsary service reqmnt. btw, that does NOT mean i believe in compulsary service nor does it mean i am NOT concerned about an obama adminstration version of a civilian corps. but then, i am just as concerned about it being foisted by our current administration under homeland security as the citizen corps http://www.citizencorps.gov/. the involvement of youth in the security aspect of our nation does smack of some troubling pasts. but hey, i am trying to get my kids to be able to properly profile those who seem dangerous like those having suspicious middle names, etc.
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.
pboy... ...and the first
November 11, 2008 - 20:46 ET by bigtimerpboy...
...and the first thing that comes to my mind are the pictures of the Black Panthers blocking people from coming in to vote...I don't even want to get into the scam of ACORN ect.
Take it from there.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
btimer...like i said
November 11, 2008 - 20:54 ET by porpoiseboyi'm not saying i like the idea. but to say that emanuel is thinking of bpanthers scaring whitey's from voting i think it's a stretch. so you are saying his own civilian service in israel "rustproofing brakes" is just a cover for his evil intentions? come on. let just keep our eyes open & 2nd amendment dry. if i ever hear they are telling school kids to rat their folks out, i will be the first in line for the counterinsurgency.
cheers!
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.
No more 911's
November 11, 2008 - 21:11 ET by iveseenitallThe last time I looked we hadn't had another 911. That damn Pariot Act. A (compulsory) Civilian Defense Corps, consisting of whom?, kids who have "trained" for three months? Seems like a pathetic substitute for something that has worked. But that's the libs for ya'. They just can't stand success. God help us! And what hypocrites. Yes, if President Bush or V.P. Cheney had proposed this, they would be screaming .
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
pboy... You think it is a
November 11, 2008 - 21:05 ET by bigtimerpboy...
You think it is a stretch...how come this just happened this last election pb? You think this isn't going to grow...
By the way, having kids rat out their parents for various things, whether true or not has been going on for quite a few years now in this country...
I'm not trying to argue with you,...in fact I don't even feel like it, if I wanted to...I'm just saying, think about it...
I could put links on here that from the Third Way, Soros, Black Theology ect ect ect that I have before, and I am not going to even bother with tonight...
Our powder is always dry.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
thanks for making my point btimer
November 11, 2008 - 21:15 ET by porpoiseboyand who's watch has it been on that kids are ratting their parents out? and who's watch was the civilian corp formed? and i am fully aware of the "reverse racism" of black liberation theology. i was ( and am ) just commenting on emanuel and his motivation and thoughts of compulsary service. i think the evidence points to his time spent in israel, nothing more. we probably agree on everything else. i just refuse to see boogeymen everywhere. there are too many everywhere's to look.
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.
well I'm not worried at all
November 11, 2008 - 21:05 ET by candanceThe lefties on here promised me that Obama would govern from the center and that not much would be different from the Clinton years.
/sarc
I'm a typical white person.
cd... ...and the lefties
November 11, 2008 - 21:10 ET by bigtimercd...
...and the lefties in the msm are saying the same thing...
We're safe!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
§ But..but...Can...They Promised!!!
November 11, 2008 - 21:11 ET by TheSterI....I...believed....
I feel dirty now....
Ster.
I am a peripheral visionary. I can see the future, but only way off to the side.
APL
November 11, 2008 - 21:21 ET by The DistributistAPL
"Modern man is staggering and losing his balance because he is being pelted with little pieces of alleged fact which are native to the newspapers; and, if they turn out not to be facts, that is still more native to newspapers." -GKC
Typical "liberals"
November 11, 2008 - 22:05 ET by iveseenitallThis "plan" is typical of the "liberal". Always plotting and planning to srew something up. And, of course, if it's THEIR plan, it is doomed to success, fail or not. These fools will never, ever change. But they'll sure as hell keep trying to "change" you. It's all part of their own self-loathing. Watch out, this is just the beginning. Every time you turn around, their ugly noses will be in your business. After four years of this, let's hope the yearning for freedom returns to this land.
P.S. Of couse this is why Franken and company are trying to steal the election from Norm Coleman in Minnesota. The closer they get to 60, the more they will be able to shove crap like this down the throats of freedom-loving Americans.
BTW, He hasn't even been sworn in and I'm so sick of Barry's face, and voice. YUK!
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
What a joke!
November 11, 2008 - 22:12 ET by JPR1The last of the national unity required for such a program evaporated sometime in the early sixties. Anyone attempting to define and administer something like this today is pissing-up-a-rope.
For God's sakes can't these jackasses stay focused on issues of substance?
Let's start with this:
"Here's how capitalism works children, GET UP OFF YOUR ASS AND PARTICIPATE! Otherwise, suffer in poverty and insecurity."
Clomp-clomp-clomp-clomp I
November 11, 2008 - 22:31 ET by dduckw0rthClomp-clomp-clomp-clomp I hear the sound of jackboots marching. The 0bama Youth are coming.
Anyone who is not alarmed by this plan is cognitively faulty, due to their inexcusable ignorance of history.
I hope there are enough people ready to stand against 0bama's hairbrained ideas. I sure am ready. God help us.
///The people have spoken!/// INDEED. Slightly over half don't have a CLUE what they spoke for. Enjoy the process as these people slowly get CLUES over a 4yr period. Painful, but enjoyable.
Obama/Biden
November 12, 2008 - 01:58 ET by afuelObama/Biden must still be proud of this idea.
I checked and the whole program is still up on the website.
This tidbit from the site is very informative:
<Expand Service-Learning in Our Nation's Schools: Obama and Biden will set a goal that all middle and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year. They will develop national guidelines for service- learning and will give schools better tools both to develop programs and to document student experience. Green Job Corps: Obama and Biden will create an energy-focused youth jobs program to provide disadvantaged youth with service opportunities weatherizing buildings and getting practical experience in fast-growing career fields.>
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/service/
More socialist brainwashing by teachers, training and supervison provided by Black Panthers or Nation of Islam. I like the claim of fast growing career fields.
Come on.
Civil Service
November 12, 2008 - 03:32 ET by Kerri KennedyI see this new requirement as a means for "liberal" causes to procure much unpaid, forced labor.
My children and I already do 50 hours of community/civil service per year, in our churches, Red Cross, local charities and schools. The consequence of this plan may be that we will no longer be able to choose which organizations or which people we choose to help.
Also, this is just another plan to legislate morality; a politically correct morality. What do-gooders like Obama, Ayers, et all, fail to understand is that a society cannot legislate kindess, charity, mercy and morality. The final authority is moral authority, and that is the framework for our rule of law. It is not the law that creates morality.
Because they--again those idealistic do-gooders--think they can legislate a new morality, a new reality into being, they will surely fail, like all the other moralists before them.
Hey...if Obama's going to
November 12, 2008 - 07:59 ET by TailgunnerHey...if Obama's going to issue me a FN Minimi 5.56 Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW), he's got me in his national security force!
Seriously, remember Heinlein? He was for some version of national or military service as a requirement for citizenship and voting.
In the abstract I see nothing wrong with the idea; it's just that we know Obama and his thugs will pervert it.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
A wonderful tidbit indeed...
November 12, 2008 - 09:54 ET by JPR1Obama and Biden will set a goal...
They will develop national guidelines...
Obama and Biden will create an enrgy-focused jobs program...
I wonder if they will allow Congress (the people) to have any input.
Disadvantaged youth weatherizing buildings?
Sheeeet! It's hard enough finding advantaged youth capable of doing a decent job raking the damn lawn!
Oh wait, those are the jobs illeagal immigrants are willing to do. I guess we'll be ok then. </sarc>