ABC Alerts Ayatollahs of CIA’s 'Secret' ‘Hidden War’ Against Iran

Photo of Scott Whitlock.

On Tuesday’s "World News," reporter Brian Ross exposed a CIA sponsored plan to enact covert action against Iran’s economic structure. On Wednesday’s "Good Morning America," the ABC program attempted to portray the plan in as hyperbolic a manner as possible. This is the graphic that accompanied Mr. Ross’ report for the May 23 GMA: "America’s Hidden War With Iran? CIA’s Secret Operation"

Include an introduction by co-host Chris Cuomo that described the operation as "covert actions aimed at destabilizing the regime," and one might think that some sort of military action was imminent. Finally, Ross described the specifics of the operation, some 30 seconds into the report:

Brian Ross: "Intelligence officials describe the CIA’s Iranian plan as non-lethal, involving a coordinated campaign of propaganda broadcasts, placement of negative newspaper articles, and the manipulation of Iran's currency and international banking transactions..."

Non-lethal? Placement of negative newspaper articles? Does this warrant a graphic warning about America’s "hidden war?"

During Tuesday’s "World News," Ross reported the story in a similar, expanded style, although the segment was free from any mention of a "hidden war."

Several conservative blogs, including NewsBusters, have already made the point that ABC may have undermined America’s a prime opportunity at stopping Iran in a non-military operation:

Ross and ABC News have purposefully undermined the non-military removal of a government that is a proud state sponsor of terrorism. If Ross and ABC News are successful in derailing covert non-military attempts to replace the Iranian government, then a military option may very well end up being our last remaining option.

Update 2007-05-23 17:23 -0400:

Brian Ross has actually done this sort of thing before. As the MRC's Brent Baker noted on April 3, he exposed a "secret war" to stop extremist Iranian leaders from using nuclear weapons:

A night after leading with an "exclusive" about the more imminent than thought horrific threat posed by Iran's nuclear weapons capability, ABC's World News began Tuesday with another Brian Ross "exclusive" in which he exposed a clandestine "secret war" inside Iran, a revelation that seemingly could undermine U.S. efforts to prevent Iran's extremist leaders from using those weapons of mass destruction. "Tonight," anchor Charles Gibson announced at the top of Monday's World News, "an alarming acceleration of Iran's nuclear program. Iran could have material for a bomb in two years. A Brian Ross exclusive."

A transcript of the GMA segment, which aired at 7:05am on May 23 follows:


ABC Graphic: America’s Hidden War With Iran? CIA’s Secret Operation


Chris Cuomo: "We have an ABC News exclusive for you. We’ve learned President Bush has authorized the CIA to carry out covert operations against Iran aimed at destabilizing the regime there. Our chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross is here with the details. Brian?"

Brian Ross: "Good morning, Chris. Current and former intelligence officials tell ABC News that Mr. Bush has signed an official presidential finding authorizing the CIA to carry out what is known as a black or covert operation against Iran. Intelligence officials describe the CIA’s Iranian plan as non-lethal, involving a coordinated campaign of propaganda broadcasts, placement of negative newspaper articles, and the manipulation of Iran's currency and international banking transactions, all playing to perceived vulnerabilities in Iran, according to former Assistant Secretary of Defense Peter Rodman."

Peter Rodman (Former Asst. Secretary of Defense): "I think it's economically vulnerable. I think there is ferment in the country. I suspect there are a lot of people among intellectuals, among students, even in political life, who really don't like this clerical regime."

Ross: "Officials say the CIA plan takes the place of proposed U.S. military action against Iran, reportedly advocated by Vice President Cheney."

Bruce Riedel (Former CIA official): "I think they've come to the conclusion a military strike has more down sides than up sides."

Ross: "Officials in Iran have already accused the CIA of running a secret operation to bring down the regime. As ABC News reported last month, the U.S. has been secretly encouraging a Pakistan-based militant group which has carried out a series of attacks on Iranian military units. For the record, the White House and CIA say they do not, as a matter of course, comment on matters involving national security or alleged covert action. Chris?"

—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.


Comments Policy

All comments are owned by whoever posted them and are subject to our terms of use. They should not be assumed to represent the views of NewsBusters.

Viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.

Hidden war?  What the <bl

Hidden war?  What the <blank> do they think is going on here?

Iran to Buy Russian Air Defense System Via Syria

I think it's well past time f

I think it's well past time for some folks to be prosecuted.  Dissent is one thing, a proper thing, a neccessary thing; actively undermining your country and aiding the enemy is another.  How much longer are we suppose to sit around and take this crap?

prosecution is in order

All it takes is just ONCE!!! If we just prosecute one of the news outlets just once, then the back-stabbing MSM will start acting responsibly.

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.

LK... I agree completely...un

LK...

I agree completely...until there is accountability they will continue on destroying this country if possible. 

&quot;Ross and ABC News have

"Ross and ABC News have purposefully undermined the non-military removal of a government that is a proud state sponsor of terrorism." - That's just silly. Doesd anyone really believe that if ABC and Ross found out about the CIA's campaign that Iran didn't already know what was going on? That's akin to saying that our government finds out about terrorist plots from Al Jazeera. 

Af...Silly you say?Pathetic.

Af...

Silly you say?

Pathetic.

Agnostic Front...It's not lik

Agnostic Front...

It's not like ABC just gave the Iranians our battlefield positions, but they are OBVIOUSLY functioning with an agenda here, and they are putting our soldiers lives at risk, not to mention jeopardizing our chances of success in the region.

But the bottom line remains: the MSM is already framing this issue to be anti-American, anti-Bush, and as just another "war" that W. is trying to start. 

"Heads up," they say, "George Bush and his gang of thugs is about to start another war with Iran...God this man is a war monger!!  Our country would be saved if only Al Gore or Barack Obama were President...and speaking of Barack Obama, we have his beautiful, loving, strong, intelligent, generous, worldy and charasmatic wife here to talk with us about Barack's favorite foods, his penchant for handing out $100 bills to homeless people, and his new Prius that he bought with his modest $160,000 salary."

A news organization that fin

A news organization that finds out about our government's overseas activity has an obligation to inform us about that activity. We have to know what's going on, if that info doesn't harm national security. This info obviously does not harm national security. As I said above, Iran most certainly already knew of the activities that we were taking. Iran just cannot do anything about it.

Af...We have to know what's g

Af...

We have to know what's going on, if that info doesn't harm national security. This info obviously does not harm national security.

Like I said before...

Pathetic.

"an obligation to inform us"

"an obligation to inform us"

Pathetic indeed.   Agnostic Front sounds like he would have enjoyed being a member of the fifth column during the Second World War.

So the media gets wind of inf

So the media gets wind of info regarding our government's activities and it is supposed to sit on it? Just let the government do what it wants? I thought the right was for limiting government activity. Who'd thunk the rightwingers trusted the government that much?

You are absolutely  wrong! A

You are absolutely  wrong!

A media organization's obligation is to use its discretion when it comes to (1) the safety of U.S. citizens and (2) the security interests of the United States in a time of war. We are at war and Iran has been conducting a proxy war and intentionally killing our soldiers. There are likely U.S. operatives in Iran involved in this and it risks their lives. Brian Ross and ABC should be investigated for treason and let that send some chills into the irresponsible and reckless actions of partisan media.

 

&quot;loose lips sink ships&q

"loose lips sink ships"

What you're referring to is t

What you're referring to is the 1st ammendment, and it was not created to act as a check or balance against the government...that's what the three branches are for, in case you've forgotten, the Judicial, the Executive, and the Legislative branches.

And you think because we're condemming this behavior from the MSM, that we just lap-up everything that the Govt. throws down?  Quite the contrary, we just happen to have brains of our own, so we don't need some liberal, lying talking-head to feed us our news...we read everything, and make our INFORMED opinions from that information.  You should give it a try.

Spoken like a true fifth columnist, AF

Unbelievable.  Do you really think that ALL information gathered must be published?   No thought of potential harm to the U.S.? 

Spoken like a true fifth columnist, AF....or a truly simplistic individual.

Yeah AF the media should shut

Yeah AF the media should shut their freakin' leftist enemy within mouths during a time of war...putting anyone in danger is outrageous...do you not understand this...our military doesn't need this...in the long run you and your family do not need this...the filthy swine we are fighting are the ENEMY...they want us dead!

If you do not understand and see this as plain as the nose on your face you are either stupid, blind or just another enemy within in my opinion.

Little dramatic and over the

Little dramatic and over the top, there, bigtimer. As I asked previously, do you really think that Iran did not already know of the reported activities?

BTW, with the current adminstration's never ending "war on terror," I guess the media should just permantly keep it's mouth shut.

What ABC has done is tantamou

What ABC has done is tantamount to treason in a time of war. This type of reporting was not even done during the Vietnam War. It is called discretion when American lives are at risk. Iran is conducting a proxy war against the U.S. and has been killing American soldiers. And Yes during a war to a degree the media has a tradition and responsilbility to keep its mouth shut.

Dramatic, yes. Wars tend to

Dramatic, yes. Wars tend to be so. Over the top? Hardly.

When Clinton bombed an aspirin factory. If the press had known about that airstrike before hand, should they have announced it?

BTW, it's not the administration's war on terror (nice use of quotation marks, incidentally), it everyone's. Unless, of course, only Republicans were killed on 9/11.

To answer your last question. Yes.

Af...Snap out of it!

 with the current administration's never ending "war on terror,"

President Bush said it was going to take years...a very long time...what part of his speeches did you not listen to Af.

Al Qaeda was already in 64 countries before the President took office Af....I knew that much ahead of time by reading...they have plenty of splinter groups... the different dictators from different countries, especially Iran... that are aiding and abetting them in different ways, (including the wonderful UN) that want to see our defeat is unbelievable because the media does not report much if any of this.

Dramatic and over the top...you are the one that is over the top in my opinion.

By the way how the heck do you know if Iran already knew this information anyway Af ....huh?

Snap out of it Af....the enemy within wants this administrations defeat along with the conservative party for their own power...in other words...this is an agenda with the  leftist media working arm in arm with your side of the aisle.

It isn't going to make a lick of difference if a lot of us are dead now is it Af?

Weren't you one of those dsio

Weren't you one of those displaying great umbrage over the risks to US Intelligence personnel and operatives alleged over the outing of Valerie Plame?

Unlike the Plame case, this disclosure has compromised an ongoing operation involving actual covert agents.  As such, this is actually a far more serious breach of secrecy than the disclosure of Valerie Plame's ID.  Don't you think it hypocritical to remain silent or condone this disclosure?

Let's go back to the myriad threads here on the Plame case and see exactly where it is you stood on this issue!

Unlike the Plame case, this d

Unlike the Plame case, this disclosure has compromised an ongoing operation involving actual covert agents.  I'm curious as to what might happen to any civilian reporters, editors, bankers, etc. that the Iranian government suspects of being involved.  The Iranians aren't even close to having a rational regime and simply suspecting that someone has ties to someone supsected to be a CIA agent or operative could result in imprisonment or death.  This is a lot worse than the whole Plame thing, because this has potential to affect dozens of people(depending on how elaborate the plan was and how insane the response will be).

You are missing the main poin

You are missing the main point here: Iran already knew! ABC informed them of nothing.

how do you know???

how do you know??? Are you on an intelligence committee that monitors these things?

(Not meant in a sarcastic sense, quite serious.)

Iranian officials have *accus

Iranian officials have *accused* the CIA of running secret operations, that doesn't mean they knew anything about what those operations might have included. Any sort of confirmation from our media gives the Iranian govt evidence(flimsy, but this is Iran we're talking about) that they could use to confront and prosecute someone that they had previously only 'suspected'. As I said earlier, we are not dealing with rational people.

Predictable.  Duck and cover

Predictable.  Duck and cover.

YOU are missing the point here.  Everybody with half a brain who knew the Wilsons as well as the Intelligence services of both Russia and Cuba at the least knew exactly where Valerie Plame worked as well, but her disclosure was still a big deal amongst the knucklehead set.

By implication, the leftists upset about Plame were being disingenuous.  They were misrepresenting their motives as concern for the security of this country.  This is intellectually dishonest.  If they were actually concerned about that, this disclosure would bother them.  But no, they are cheering this disclosure.  They are despicable.   If you are one of these as I think you are, then you are despicable as well.

So I understand you correct

So I understand you correctly:

The left says we can't military attack Iran because the world hates us too much over Iraq and our forces are spread too thinly as it is. In addition, they say Iran's nuclear program must be dealt with, provided our 'dealing' doesn't involve weapons.

Now, the CIA finds ways to covertly destablize Ahmalamadingdong's regime internally, and (most importantly to the left) non-lethaly and the leftist media outs the plan, rendering it ineffective.

Wow...

First of all, news organizati

First of all, news organizations and journalists in this country have no idea what their obligations are.  They are supposed to be obliged to professionalism, i.e. checking sources, checking facts, editing their work before it's printed/aired, being OBJECTIVE.

Secondly, the American public is not on a need to know basis concerning military action.  Do people understand that?  The United States is trying to fight a war, this is not a d*mn game.  We don't need to know the secrets of CIA operations...this is one of the biggest problems with journalists and people like you...you think this is good work...and you're right, if you're Iranian!!!! 

WAKE UP!!!!  We are being attacked from within every single day...

"We have to know what's going

"We have to know what's going on..."

Why? I'm so fed up with the MSM splashing governmental security secrets all over the world headlines, and then hiding behind the phrase "the people's right to know." It's been awhile since I read the Bill of Rights, but I don't recall that one being in there.

Should the press have revealed the U-2 flights in the 1950's if they found out about it? After all, following your logic, "Russia most certainly knew (and actually DID know) of the activities that we were taking. Russia just [could not] do anything about it."

"This info obviously does not harm national security."

I strongly disagree with that. I'm working in Saudi Arabia right now. How do you think that the Middle East will react when they read this headline? Don't you that it might - just might - give the more radical elements here even more reason to hate America? Sounds to me like it has the greatest potential to harm national security.

It's bad enough that I turned on my TV this morning in Riyadh and had to see one of the movie channels running "Fahrenheit 911". Riyadh also gets to watch the "ER" episode that has been discussed in another thread. (That will be on tonight.) Now I read about this. And to make matters worse, the MSM has people like you and their friends on the left to support them in this outrageous disclosure.

"A news organization that finds out about our government's overseas activity has an obligation to inform us about that activity."

Where did you find that? Who says so? The more I think about this disclosure from the media and remarks like yours, the more infuriated I am. If people in the Middle East were ever unsure about America before, the MSM and liberal elements of our country seem hell-bent on making sure that we are portrayed to this region in the worst light possible.

Like it or not, we are at war - both declared and undeclared. Keep your damn mouth SHUT!

The transparency of our gover

The transparency of our government is paramount to a functional society. Without knowing what our government is up to, we can't take steps necessary to correct it. This is our government. We elected them. They have to answer to us, not the other way around. If we have no idea what they are doing, how can force them to be accountable? They only way to find out what the government is doing is via the press, because the government, especially this administration, certainly won't tell us. I sounds to me like you would have preferred to have lived in the Soviet Union, where there was no media.

Which is it, AF?

Everything must be published without regard to whether or not it harms the U.S.?   What a an incredibly stupid position.

Which is it, AF?  Fifth Columnist or stupid?   You're one or the other.....

Af...WE ARE AT WAR YOU IMBECI

Af...

WE ARE AT WAR YOU IMBECILE!

Relegated to name calling aga

Relegated to name calling again, a**clown. You still refuse to accept the basic premise that Iran most certainly already knew of our government's activities. If Iran knew, who did ABC tell about our plans that harms our interests? I'll answer that one for you - no one.

"You still refuse to accept t

"You still refuse to accept the basic premise that Iran most certainly already knew of our government's activities."

This time, try READING what I wrote to you earlier. If the Germans already KNEW were going to invade Europe, why shouldn't the press have announced it? (They did know, after all.) If the Russians KNEW about our U-2 flights, why didn't we go ahead and publish the details in the press? If Casto KNEW about the Bay of Pigs invasion, which he did, why didn't the press publish it in the headlines? If the press KNEW about JFK's womanizing in the White House Pool, which they did, why didn't they publish that?

Incidentally,... "Name calling"? Wasn't that you who (indirectly, albeit) called me a communist?

AF...your entire assertion

AF...your entire assertion hinges on "Iran knew what we were doing."
Please provide even one shred of evidence that your not just waxing idiotic!

The man with an experience is not at the mercy of a man with an argument.

Agnostic front - of course Ir

Agnostic front - of course Iran knows all about the secret(sic) "covert actions aimed at destabilizing the regime,"  - this American-Iranian women has been under house arrest for 4 months and is now charged. 

Noted American scholar and Potomac resident Haleh Esfandiari has been charged with "seeking to topple the ruling Islamic establishment," Tehran's state-controlled television reported yesterday.

Esfandiari was charged with setting up a network that was working "against the sovereignty" of Iran, the government outlet said. "This is an American-designed model with an attractive appearance that seeks the soft-toppling of the country," state television reported, according to the Associated Press.

"Tehran's state-controlled te

"Tehran's state-controlled television reported yesterday"

Well, that certainly clears it up for me!

The Germans also said that they were attacked by Poland in 1939, and that the Reich acted in self-defense.

Thank you for your moonbat contributions to this discussion.

i was just thinking - The di

i was just thinking - The discussuion is Bush's secret(sic) signing to allow the CIA to conduct covert operations against Iran - and whether Iran was aware of it  before ABC news published it. 

By arresting Haleh Esfandiari, an American citizen, for "toppling the government", Iran is telling the world that they are aware of Bush's secret(sic) covert operations.

I recall your umbrage and out

I recall your umbrage and outrage over the "outing" of Valerie Plame. Depsite Plame's identity as a CIA employee was widely known on the Washington cocktail circuit, not to mention both Russian and Cunban Intelligence services and whoever else any of these people may have told, you were one of those decrying this as a compromise of the safety of American operatives and were defending Patrick Fitzgerald's witch hunt which neiher aprehended the self-confessed leaker nor established that the leak was even a crime.

Now here, we see you excusing a similar event.  Why, Ding?  These events are essentially the same in content.  Why no umbrage here?  Is this because you are intellectually dishonest and a hypocrite?  I'd say so!

NL207 -   I hope you still

NL207 -   I hope you still will have outrage if/when you find out that this is another deliberate leak by the Bush administration - might even be Cheney leaking again.

feckless fool.

feckless fool.

If it was Cheney, that would

If it was Cheney, that would be grounds for impeachment.  Why aren't you, who would greatly desire the impeachment of Cheney, not calling for an invesigation. special prosecutor, etc. as you cheered on the Fitzgerald witch hunt?

Could the reason be that you don't actually believe for one second that this leak was anything other than one of the Democratic moles in the CIA talking out-of-turn to the press?

The burden of the proof is on you, Ding.  Everyone here remembers your noisy defense of the Plame case and Libby prosecution.  In that case no one could point to a single American operative who was harmed by that leak, yet you postured behind the shield of national security like all of the hypocrital libs did.   In this case, we have an American citizen, possibly an agent as well, who has been arrested for a capital offense by Iran.  He may be executed.   Your blatant hypocrisy we all see.  Your intellectual integrity is nowhere to be found. 

This is fun.  Right now, I OWN you, Ding.

Do you have any ideas of your

Do you have any ideas of your own as to what the government should be doing, in general?  Or are you so bereft of ideas that all you are left with is being anti-everything? 

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

Haleh Esfandiari was hardly l

Haleh Esfandiari was hardly liked by the Iranian Government to begin with .  She is a former member of a royal patronage society started by the Shah's sister, exiled herself after the revolution, is an American citizen, and lectures on women's issues and democratic developments.  Oh yeah, and she's married to a Jew.  She was already considered an enemy of the state.  Ever consider the possibility that the charges against her are false? You used Tehran's state-controlled television as a friggin' source!

&quot;You used Tehran's sta

"You used Tehran's state-controlled television as a friggin' source!"

Of course! With Ding and his BDS afflicted buddies these sources are much more reliable than the United States Government. You see, the US Goverment is out to "get" them, whereas the Iranian government isn't. Make sense?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

 IC..Here is the latest abou

 IC..

Here is the latest about the professor arrested as of an hour ago....http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0523/p99s01-duts.html

Af...you may want to read this and learn something....they have even arrested someone affiliated with a Soros group.

Af...by the way here is the latest from the IAEA http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/05/atomic_watchdog.html

Af...yeah we aren't worried about Iran, we aren't at war with these people who are funding and aiding the enemy all over the place to kill our soldiers in Iraq and cause havoc and death elsewhere.....have you paid any attention to what is going on in Lebanon?

The media should keep their treasonous traps shut or face charges.....

John Edwards is giving a spee

John Edwards is giving a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations stating that there is no war. That there is no clash of civilizations. This guy makes Jimmy Carter look competent.

They both make me think about

They both make me think about what Mr. Rogers might have been like if you cut his balls off.  I guess Edwards went for the 'banana-split' as well.

From the first link: &quot;Th

From the first link: "The broadcast said Esfandiari confirmed during interrogations that her center "invited Iranians to attend conferences, offered them research projects, scholarships ... and tried to lure influential elements and link them to decision-making centers in America."

That B*tch!  I guess maybe someone should stone her...conferences and scholarships...who the hell does she think she is!? The fact that the United States is involved in such disgusting things as education and the free exchange of ideas should not surprise me.

Hey, ding and af, can we be buds now?

IC...Where did ding and Af ru

IC...

Where did ding and Af run off to...you get them links....poof...just like that.

You ask them a simple question or confront them and ask them for links...poof...just like that.

LMAO.......tells ya all ya need to know.

bigtimer - wrong again!

bigtimer - wrong again!

bigtimer - from your CSM sour

bigtimer - from your CSM source The charges were leveled in by an Iranian Information Ministry statement read on state television.

Oh, boy, InsufficientContext, MightyMouth, and i was just thinking are  going to be mad at you for using Iran's state-operated tv station as a source.

On KCNA

What, is KCNA not available?  I understand they are a Leftist's favorite...

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

InsuffcientContext -  I used

InsuffcientContext -  I used WaPo as a source.  WaPo used the AP as its source.  And the AP use Terhran's tv to report Haleh Esfandiari's  arrest.  Do you think  Tehran should use FoxNews to broadcast the arrest of an American citizen?

Oh, and the discussion is whether Iran was aware of Bush's secret(sic) signing before ABC published it - not if Haleh Esfandiari is guilty or not.

By arresting Haleh Esfandiari

By arresting Haleh Esfandiari, an American citizen, for "toppling the government", Iran is telling the world that they are aware of Bush's secret(sic) covert operations.

You are the one that brought up Esfandiari in order to provide evidence that Iran was aware of CIA activity. My point is that a state run tv station could easily be used to release propaganda. If the charges against her are false, that means the evidence that you provided is false.  So it certainly does matter if she is guilty or not.  I don't understand why you are having a hard time following this.

Apart from the 'evidence' you provided and summarily rejected, there was nothing backing up Irans claims until ABC reported it.  Iran had simply made a blind accusation.  In other words, they suspected CIA involvement and reported it as truth.  I suspect your inability to work your brain around  the things I have now had to restate has something to do with you smoking a dimebag before coming on line(entirely plausible), but that doesn't mean I know it to be fact.  Understand?

InsufficientContext -   the

InsufficientContext -   there was nothing backing up Irans claims until ABC reported it  - How naive are you? 

It doesn't matter if arresting  Haleh Esfandiari was a push-back or propaganda or whether she's guilty or not. 

Iran declared to the world that they are going to arrest American citizens in retaliation for covert CIA action (soft toppling) of Iranian affairs.

If anything, the leak of Bush's secret(sic) signing after Iran announced her arrest should make you suspect that there's more to the ABC "leak" than just condemning ABC

Ding, I'm confused.  The lin

Ding, I'm confused by your post of  May 23, 2007 - 14:23.  The link you used (to bolster Af's argument that Iran already knew what ABC had reported) said the woman under house arrest "identified the representative in Iran who had set up a network for philanthropist George Soros's Open Society Institute."

Are you suggesting that Soros and Bush are in cahoots with the CIA to bring down Iran?  THE same George Soros who has personally spent tens of millions of his own money to smear Bush?  The same George Soros who "is famously known for 'breaking the Bank of England'?"  And the same George Soros who (according to your own link says), "The long-term and final goal of such centers (referring to Open Society) is to try to enable this network . . . to confront the ruling powers."

You might want to read your links before you post them. 

Sounds to me like the only thing Iran knew before ABC's report was that George Soros was the threat, not the CIA.

To take your last statement f

To take your last statement first. It was completely gratuitous, lacking in reason and logic.

So, by revealing this covert operation... how have held the government accountable? You now know what's going on. The world now knows what's going on. What "steps will you take to correct it"?

In your earlier post, you said that the press should tell us what's going on, as long as it doesn't endanger our national security. Now you're saying that we should be told everything. Which is it going to be?

While you took time to express your views, you said little in the way of a solid counterargument to any of my major points. Simply calling me a fan of the USSR isn't a though-out, reasoned response.

We elected our government to do a job. Now get out of the way and let them do it!

I completely disagree with yo

I completely disagree with your point that once an official is elected he is to be carte blanche authority to do whatever he or she sees fit. How do we correct it? The ways that citizens always try to effect change - vote, contact your congressman, etc.

LOL...what exactly do you t

LOL...what exactly do you think we can do now that we know? A majority of americans are against the immigration reforms blowing through congress yet we can do nothing about it.

The man with an experience is not at the mercy of a man with an argument.

You amaze me. I'm almost at

You amaze me. I'm almost at a complete loss as to how to respond to you. You have rebutted virtually none of the content of my previous posts. You make one statement...

"I completely disagree with your point that once an official is elected he is to be carte blanche authority to do whatever he or she sees fit."...

that I can't find in any of my previous posts. (Perhaps I'm reading hurriedly - I am somewhat charged up right now.) I NEVER said that the government should be given carte blanche.

What I can't figure out from you is this: when exactly does it cross the line? The conclusion that could be drawn from your statement is that there is no such thing as treason.

Fine. You want accountability. The press found out about the covert operation. What have they "corrected" by publicizing it? What was wrong with the operation in the first place? Why did it NEED to be publically disclosed?

The problem is that press seems to no longer have the ability to view things objectively. They think that if they know, everyone should know. The phrase "responsible journalism" seems to have very little meaning anymore.

Also, if you're going to continue this "discussion" with me, then let's talk about everything I've said to you. You grab one word or phrase, hold on for dear life, throw out your little nuggets of wisdom, but never seriously address any or my major contentions.

Finally, as many others have said, just because YOU think that Iran knew about it doesn't actually mean that they did.

You would be more concerned w

You would be more concerned with a government that allegedly outed an administrative CIA agent (Valerie Plame) than a media outlet that intentionally outs a secret government operation in Iran and risk the lives of Americans involved and actually undercover. Does that about cover it?

NEWSFLASHDO ALLIES HAVE A SEC

NEWSFLASH

DO ALLIES HAVE A SECRET PLAN TO INVADE EUROPE?

Unnamed sources confirmed the existence of Operation Overlord today.  Some say the invasion point could be Normandy beach and the President is lying about landing at Pas de Calis.  Hundreds of thousands of our soldiers could be killed if the operation goes wrong.  People inside the operation speaking off the record expressed doubts that the plan is worth the number of lives it might cost and said that more negotiations with the Nazi regime might  stave off such a costly disaster.

(just the kind of story that some here think would not only be ok to write but actually necessary for defending the first amendment.)

insanity must be contagious

On HAVE BLUE

So we should have announced the successes of HAVE BLUE to the world in August 1981? 

Should we also have invited a delegation from the German and Japanese government to take a tour of the Los Alamos facility during World War II, and explained in minute detail to the American public what the "Manhattan Project" was?

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

What?

What in the world are you talking about? Any actions taken by the CIA directly affect National Security, at all times. I'd like to see where you claim that a news organization's obligation, is to inform us about the actions of the CIA. Where do you make that claim from?

If homosexuality is genetic, then it must be a birth defect. If it is a birth defect, then stem cell research might provide a cure.

AF that is just a guess--

AF  that is just a guess--on your part. Let us just for a moment guess the other way--now they have infiormation that will cause them to escalate their alert level. Someone may be arrested that is a vital source of information to us. On that basis alone. it is treason.

For you to defend it on the basis of "maybe, yeah but" or any other guess is deliberate ignorance on your part.

This is treason.  We are in

This is treason. 

We are in the middle of a GLOBAL WAR, and people in this country think this is a game.  How much more of this are we supposed to take?  I'm ready to start protesting.  Will that do any good?  What can we do?  Anyone else feel like we've reached a critical mass with the INSANE MSM in this country??  How many more secrets are we going to reveal, how many more times is our media going to try and paint our administration as the enemy?  How many more times are they going to call our soldiers terrorists?  I really can't take this anymore.

Who else has the guts?

I've had it with this MSSM in our country.  Treason is punishable by DEATH.  You hear me?  DEATH  Wake up, Bush!  The law is the law is the .. oh right.  Bush isn't FOR the law. 

Islam should have it's religious status revoked until it can prove it's not a hate group.

SSS- rather than death-- Ross should

SSS- rather than death-- Ross should be made the towel boy in the Muslim footbath in the KC airport for 10 years.

As usual the enemy within via

As usual the enemy within via the press/television are working hard to attempt to thwart any plans we have to defeat the biggest enemy we have that are aiding and abetting the terrorists world-wide....IRAN....

I am furious, I am disgusted, I want to know when something is going to be done about these leaks from wherever they came from...it cannot be that hard to track down, it cannot be that hard to throw some people in jail for treason, it cannot be that hard to find a lot of traitors that are leaking this material time after time and prosecute them during a time of war...along with the media whether it is the papers or television or radio or anything else....

Something must be done...and NOW!

If the President does not demand this via the Justice Dept. and make a speech, show his outrage...well I just give up.

Here is a link to another ominous warnings that we may be just getting ready....as we should be.http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,274955,00.html

Anyone down for starting a sh

Anyone down for starting a show that would take on the format of Realtime, or the View, but with an intelligent host that has discussions with intelligent, informed guests?  Anyone realize that we dont' have this outlet...think about that...we could have a whole on-air segment devoted to calling all of these traitors out and demanding that they be held accountable.  We need a TV form of this website...

Anyone have any ideas?  We're reaching a point in this country, I believe, that is a tipping point, and we need to do something.

I agree with you jpatch...Pau

I agree with you jpatch...

Paul Weyrich (sp) had a station he started up years ago now that would of and did cover that type of coverage...I miss it today....it was called N.E.T.

Money problems...it is always money. (plus he injured his back terribly, in fact I think he is still in a wheel-chair)

We need something like that again desperately!

&quot;CIA to carry out covert

"CIA to carry out covert operations against Iran aimed at destabilizing the regime there."

I am more dissapointed that it has taken this long to act.

For the record, the White House and CIA say hey do not, as a matter of course, comment on matters involving national security or alleged covert action."

But for some reason they dont mind if everyone else does?

&quot;Intelligence officials

"Intelligence officials describe the CIA’s Iranian plan as non-lethal, involving a coordinated campaign of propaganda broadcasts, placement of negative newspaper articles, and the manipulation of Iran's currency and international banking transactions". If this amounts to a hidden war, did this a**hat just admit to being at war with OUR government?

Treason or not?

Maybe, just maybe the release of this information is phase one in the over all scheme of the CIA's grand plan. Just playing the Devil's advocate here and attempting to remain optimistic.

"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful..."

Intelligence officials descri

Intelligence officials describe the CIA’s Iranian plan as non-lethal, involving a coordinated campaign of propaganda broadcasts, placement of negative newspaper articles,.........

   Hey,  that's the MSM plan to topple a democratically elected government in the USA.

Unfortunately, you're exactly

Unfortunately, you're exactly right.

But we won't let that happen...unless Al Gore decides to dis-invent the internet.

Hosea 5:2 The revolters have

Hosea 5:2 The revolters have gone deep in depravity,
         But I will chastise all of them.

Hosea 5:4 Their deeds will not allow them
         To return to their God.
         For a spirit of harlotry is within them,
         And they do not know the LORD.

Hosea 5:7 They have dealt treacherously against the LORD,
         Fo