Once again MSNBC president Phil Griffin is claiming that his cable outlet is not liberal on purpose. (I know what you're saying, if you believe that he has a bridge to sell you) In an interview with a TV reviewer for the Kansas City Star, Griffin once again made the claim that the extreme leftward tilt that MSNBC has taken over the last few years was a complete accident and that they aren't "tied to ideology" like Fox News is. Griffin also attacked Fox News saying that, "you can't trust a word they say."
It all started when Aaron Barnhart of the Star asked Griffin for his reaction to statements made by Fox News executive John Moody who said that MSNBC only gained their current market share because of the "messianic ranting" of its anchors, Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews. This set Griffin off at the outset of the interview.
"Look," said Griffin. "I totally respect Fox News and what they did. But it's totally cynical. For them to say that is outrageous. They saw an opportunity years ago to create an ideological channel. And they did. I give them total credit. I tip my hat to them. They scored. But it was ideological and opportunistic. It was a business plan.
Ah, but you see, MSNBC is different. Their ideological tilt was purely an accident... so it doesn't count.
"We didn't do that. We go out and hire the best people that we can and give them freedom. Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann were arguing in point-of-view programs against the war when the war was popular. This wasn't a business decision. .... We're not tied to ideology the way they are. We're still NBC News, best newsgathering organization in the world, we have a couple of point-of-view people, but we have a variety of opinions you don't see elsewhere.
Griffin's spin is an Olympics worthy back flip as any look at their programing reveals. But, his main point is a meaningless distinction in the long run. Fox News may have set out from the beginning to fill the rightward niche market, it is true. It is also true that MSNBC didn't start up with the direct intentions to be the extreme left version of Fox News... after all, there was no Fox News at the time. MSNBC beat Fox News to air by four months or so. Certainly it wasn't MSNBC's initial "business plan" to become the Pravda of cable news. But, the end result is still the same. They did become that.
That they didn't start out with that business plan is meaningless in the final analysis. The truth is that they have, indeed, turned to that business plan to save their perennially third placed cable outlet's bacon in the ratings game. They have similarly found their niche -- and a considerably smaller one if ratings are any indication -- just as Fox News has. That they didn't launch their cable channel in 1996 for that particular reason is not very relevant to the facts as they now stand.
And, this new turn to the far left really did see MSNBC tap into a market niche. They are the darlings of the nutrooters and have cashed in rather handsomely as a result. But for Griffin to then say, "we're not tied to ideology the way they are," referring to Fox News, is an absurdity. Of course MSNBC is wholly tied to the leftist line ideologically. If they abandoned it now they would lose all their newfound ratings and most likely disappear from the TV altogether.
Still, Griffin is sticking to his story no matter how unbelievable it is.
"What they are trying to do is play a game here," Griffin continued. "THEY made the business decision to create an ideological network. We didn't. They were the ones that got in bed with the Bush Administration, so that most of the time, where did the Bush Administration officials come out and make their points? Fox News. We didn't. You brought it up, but it's a great story because you can't trust a word they say.
... and a nice homage to his viewer's Bush Derangement Syndrome, too. Nice touch Philly.
But this wide-eyed shock from Griffin that people think MSNBC is an ideologically driven organization is not new. He has been peddling this same faux shock for a while, now.
Back in November of 2007, Griffin was selling the same line to The New York Times when he told them that the obvious drift left wasn't a conscious plan. "There isn't a dogma we're putting through," he told the Times, "there is a ‘Go for it.'"
But, doesn't it become "dogma" the second you decide that your policy will be "go for it"?
Anyway, despite what he keeps claiming, the reality of the programming speaks louder than Phil Griffin's protestations.














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Chris Matthews Only Had A Thrill Go Up His Leg
July 20, 2008 - 08:46 ET by roadgeek9We all remember when Chris Matthews told all of his viewers that Barack Obama gave him a "thrill up his leg" while hearing his speech. That's not bias at all.
To America: If you are smart enough, the only show on MSNBC you should be watching is "Morning Joe," it's the only show that is tolerable on that network.
I'll never forget that one
July 21, 2008 - 14:47 ET by mjgI'll never forget that one ever.
The KC Scar...
July 20, 2008 - 08:58 ET by AgentAmericanis an embarassment to the midwest. Plain and simple. Very good birdcage liner though.They would never question that "objective and fair" news source MS-DNC.
Do they really think that we are that stupid?
Drill ANWAR
I quit reading the Star 15
July 20, 2008 - 09:39 ET by kgI quit reading the Star 15 years ago. Liberals think they are the mainstream. Anything right of the far left are considered neo-cons. They thought Clinton moved far to the right when in fact he was left of center. Daily Kos is not any farther left than MSNBC. Olbermann is a regular writer there and uses their rants in his opinions. They said 4 years ago that they would take over the Democrat party and with Obama it looks like they are succeeding.
"Forget change, I want improvement!"
Yea an accident, like
July 20, 2008 - 09:01 ET by USA4freedomYea an accident, like when Hitler marched into Poland.
Or Japan dropped a bomb (Obama version) on Pearl Harbor.
All accidents.. no planning, no schedule, no back ground on any employee, no contracts, no writers, no script, no graphics. They are all sitting around smoking a few Cohiba’s then.. puff.. it happened. They all scratch their empty heads and go.. how in the hell did that happen???
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Romney / Jendil 2012 (if,we survive)
Moonbat MSNBC Exec
July 20, 2008 - 09:25 ET by BenderMoonbat MSNBC Exec stated:
1) "They saw an opportunity years ago to create an ideological channel"
FOX News is the most balanced and fair of all the news channels - even Democrats state that.
2) "We go out and hire the best people that we can and give them freedom."
No, you made a conscious decision to purge your ranks of any conservatives and stack your shows with left of center hosts to appeal to a niche moonbat market.
3) "... we have a couple of point-of-view people, but we have a variety of opinions you don't see elsewhere."
No, you see soley liberal points of view on MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, NPR, NY Times, and on and on. You rarely see a conservative point of view on most media.
4) "... where did the Bush Administration officials come out and make their points? Fox News"
Gee I wonder why? All interviews with MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NPR etc with Bush admin members are hostitle. You have hosts on these networks like Wolf Blitzer and Matt Lauer to name a few questioning Democrat politicians why they are not impeaching Bush. At least with FOX, they get a fair interview.
Whiner
July 20, 2008 - 09:44 ET by Pasco ConservativeTypical of a Vassar Graduate. Griffin's network is rated at #27 far behind Fox News.
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any
man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
The best people
July 20, 2008 - 09:52 ET by nkviking75"We go out and hire the best people that we can and give them freedom."
So except for token Republican Joe Scarborough, all the best people are hardcore lefties? Why do I find that hard to believe? There are a lot of very talented people on the right, and yet not one of them is good enough for MSNBC. Amazing.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
What color is the sky on Phil Griffin's planet?
July 20, 2008 - 10:18 ET by R D HelmPretty sure it isn't blue.
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
This just proves the old
July 20, 2008 - 12:10 ET by DaBirdThis just proves the old saying that "crap flows downhill". The B.S. we see coming through our television screens from MSNBC starts at the top and doesn't stop until it lands in the lap of the viewer.
The nost important thing to
July 20, 2008 - 13:31 ET by cocodrieThe nost important thing to remember about a liberal: if his mouth is moving, he is lying.
MSNBC not 'deliberately' left?
July 20, 2008 - 16:18 ET by goldenthroatAs the "church lady" used to say on SNL: "Well, isn't that special!"
Just reading Griffin's 'unbiased' observation gives me a tingling feeling going up my leg! Ooooooooooh!
"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?" - Firesign Theatre
Griffin...you tell us
July 20, 2008 - 19:27 ET by bigtimerGriffin...you tell us volumes about your own mind-set.
Period.
You have been for years anyway...
Proof is in the pudding.
Btw...I love how leftists lie all the time..especially to themselves...eventually they repeat it enough..they will believe it...they're easy that way.
Btw...Did anyone see Matthews praising Griffin sometime last week towards the end of his show I think it was...he was just besides himself sputtering and spurting his admiration for the NEW Pres. of msnbc...heck I thought he was for a long time already anyway...I know he has been the so-called decision maker for a long time no matter what the title.
I just immediately figured either way, Chris is butt-kissing for something.
Pathetic all....
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
BT, this is where you are
July 20, 2008 - 20:22 ET by RukusBT, this is where you are better than me on these things. I can't stomach watching that crap. I refuse to watch PMSMBC, period! I'm glad you have the intestinal fortitude to listen/watch their pablum. Good for you, bad for me. Thank you for going above and beyond to keep us informed. You rock!!
"Nuke 'em 'til they... oh hell, just shoot 'em!"
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