NYTimes: Audience 'Leans Left' on Cable... or Not!

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By Warner Todd Huston | November 10, 2007 - 09:18 ET

I can't believe we all missed this one from November 6th, but The New York Times read the cable TV ratings tea leaves and decided that the left is "riding a ratings wave" to dominate the medium. Using the supposed "ratings wave" that the NYTimes imagines has propelled Keith Olbermann to some sort of success story, they have decided that it's all good on cable for the left. Yet, any look at the real ratings makes it hard to understand the Times' claims unless they have based all their hopes on mere wishful thinking instead of factual proof. Not only did the Times wildly exaggerate Keith Olbermann's success but they went as far as to say that Olbermann was "tantalizingly close" to rival Bill O'Reilly's ratings -- a claim that the Times is off the mark with by nearly 2 million viewers! As it turns out the "ratings wave" the Times is so excited about seems more like a trickle and could hardly be taken as evidence of some sort of major shift in viewer preferences. Obviously the "paper of record" is trying hard to create their own reality here!

In "Cable Channel Nods to Ratings and Leans Left" the Times reported the obvious drift left that MSNBC has been taking, a direction the cable station was poised to drive further off the cliff with the addition of a new Rosie O'Donnell slime fest -- the one that didn't pan out due to Rosie's queering the deal. But, the analysis thoroughly missed the mark and amounted far more to an Olbermann wet dream than reality.

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The Times reported that MSNBC was leaning their programing ever further left with hosts Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Dan Abrams, and Joe Scarborough -- who is going further to the left every day -- all of whom are airing more and more leftward leaning content and are ruling the cable venue's opinion shows. The then expected addition of O'Donnell would have cemented MSNBC as the bastion of the far left even though MSNBC execs told the Times that they "never set out to create a liberal version of Fox News," but that their veer leftward had "happened naturally."

“It happened naturally,” Phil Griffin, a senior vice president of NBC News who is the executive in charge of MSNBC, said Friday, referring specifically to the channel’s passion and point of view from 7 to 10 p.m. “There isn’t a dogma we’re putting through. There is a ‘Go for it.’”

What ever the case, if MSNBC decides to become the anti-Fox and find themselves the station of the lunatic left fringe, then it had better be prepared for permanent low ratings. Not the best business model, to be sure.

But, the Times thinks this is great and they point to the ... *cough*... success... of Countdown, with Keith Olbermann as proof that this really could work.

Here is the laugher of the piece:

Mr. Olbermann has even come tantalizingly close to surpassing the ratings of the host he describes as his nemesis, Bill O’Reilly on Fox News...

Huh?

They cite the "ratings wave" Olbie has had as proof of this amazing feat of ratings success that has shown MSNBC that they can slam their programming leftward and still make it in the big leagues. But, even as they do reveal that O'Reilly beats Olbie by "1.5 million viewers over all" (and what other REAL measurement is there?), they try their best to make Olbie seem a great success story. For instance, The O'Reilly Factor on Fox News sometimes reaches upwards to nearly 3 million viewers, in fact on April 16th it reached 3.546 million, yet Countdown with Keith Olbermann rarely tops 1 million viewers (the Times piece quotes "773,000 viewers a night").

So, with O'Reilly at least doubling, sometimes trebling, Olbermann's audience, it looks like Olbermann is as "tantalizingly close" to besting O'Reilly as Christopher Columbus was to discovering a new route to the Indies when he discovered the New World. Missed it by that much. In the end, what is really true is that their claims of great ratings guns for Olbermann is more spin than fact.

Certainly MSNBC can puff themselves up as the anti-Fox, but that shows only that they are running behind Fox and that Fox has won the game for branding and viewers. MSNBC is admitting that Fox has set the agenda and that Fox is the one to beat. But, this doesn't deter the Times who is desperately trying to prop the floundering MSNBC up as the best thing since sliced bread.

Tellingly, the piece does not contrast the real ratings of the two stations, especially that of O'Reilly and Olbermann. Showing the real stats would make all their high praise seem hollow, indeed. I'll not post it here because you have to see it larger than we can post here, but here is a link if you want to see a great chart that shows how badly Olbermann does compared to O'Reilly.

Nope, it's not going as swimmingly as the Times wants to make it seem, for sure.

**Update**

Just for information, the website I linked with the chart above has some other great TV related charts and trends. check it out at
tvbythenumbers.com
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But, even as they do

But, even as they do reveal that O'Reilly beats Olbie by "1.5 million viewers over all" ....[...] For instance, The O'Reilly Factor on Fox News sometimes reaches upwards to nearly 3 million viewers, in fact on April 16th it reached 3.546 million, yet Countdown with Keith Olbermann never tops 1 million viewers (the Times piece quotes "773,000 viewers a night"). (emphasis added)

 

In other words, the hard fact is that O'Reilly's viewership is more than double that of KO, and in most cases, actually triple.

But, to the NYT, that is "tantalizingly close." I guess they're using the "newspeak" dictionary and thesaurus.

Exactly. It's as

Exactly. It's as "tantalizingly close" as Columbus was to finding a new route to the Indies when he discovered the new world!

Oooo, that's good. I am going to drop this one into my story!

I took a minute to do some

Keith Olbermann rarely tops 1 million viewers (the Times piece quotes "773,000 viewers a night").

I took a minute to do some quick math ..773,000 + 1.5 million equals 3 million? In what universe?

If you take that 773,000, BOR's 3 million is nearly 4 times that.

That "tantalizingly close" is looking worse by the minute.

How many libs do you think will read the NYT and come away thinking "Wow! KO's catching up to BOR...he's only down by 1.5 million viewers!!"?

But, to the NYT, that is


But, to the NYT, that is "tantalizingly close." I guess they're using the "newspeak" dictionary and thesaurus.

And we all know how "tantalizingly close." the NYT is to it's all time high in readership.

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The left just wants some heavy hitters

I think the left sees Rush and Bill and wants their own big guy, so they tout Chicken and Waffles like he's their answer. Olbermann is too immature and elitist and keeps everyone but the die-hard leftists (his choir) away.

MSNBC should've pulled John Stewart to do a straight-up commentary show. I don't agree with the things Stewart has said (including the recent softball interview with Rolling Stone) but I think Stewart can bring the political gravitas the left is looking for. He had such a problem with CNN's Crossfire and now says the media should be the filter (decider) for facts to opinions, time to put up.

"Boats are safe in the harbor, but that's not what they're made for." -- Maritime quote

but I think Stewart can

but I think Stewart can bring the political gravitas the left is looking for.

You're joking, right? 

It's unfortunate...

It's unfortunate, but he is right. Stewart is the closest thing that the left HAS to "gravitas." And THAT is the saddest thing of all. A comedian is the best that passes for serious on the left!

Isn't that all the left has is comedians

Isn't that all the left has is comedians?

The top pundits on the left are all comedians: Stewart, Colbert, Maher, Letterman, Franken....

All of these people have said things either as bad or worse than anything Coulter or Limbaugh, or any of the right pundits have said.  Yet the media gives them a pass because they are "comedians" they are "only joking".

I've noticed this tactic with the liberals we have here in Boston on the radio.  They'll make some highly offensive religous comment.  Then when a caller complains that is was offensive, they trot out the old "it was a joke, don't you have sense of humor?" line.  Even though when they said it they were serious.

Ever notice Maher is rarely funny anymore?  And it seems like he isn't even trying to be funny.  He is trying to do straight commentary.

Mahe's a pundit now.

Mahe's a pundit now. Franken pretty much, too. Stewart, Colbert, and Letterman are not.

One might come to the

One might come to the conclusion that all comedians look to the follies of the sitting president for material. Added to that encouragement by producers and people behind the scenes with the own agendas. Sprinkle in some misinformation and you have joke makers.

The only comedic source on the right I know about is the 1/2 Hour News Hour on Fox News that the left is quick to dismiss, then Newsbusted which hasn't seem to escape the left's attempt at blind derision.

As far as the whole joke/serious issue you brought up, on the CNN's Crossfire episode where Stewart was on (and I've alluded to several times), you can see Stewart visibly shift from telling jokes to dodge issues and then be serious to address issues only he wants to talk about. That's why I'd like Stewart to leave The Daily Show for real political commentary. He's only being restricted by The Daily Show any more (I still liked Kilborn more), and I want to see how he behaves in a 100% serious arena.

"Boats are safe in the harbor, but that's not what they're made for." -- Maritime quote

I'm serious. Have you ever

I'm serious. Have you ever watched The Daily Show where he talks to a serious literary type? Stewart can hold a very good conversation and IMO has better timing and delivery than Olbermann.  I took notice when Stewart went onto CNN's Crossfire and he did very well against a relatively hostile panel.

I guess MSNBC thought the entertainment value of Olbermann's sportscasting days would transfer as watchable television.

(The same sort of conclusions might've been reached regarding Rosie.  Whoever is coming to these conclusions and making these decisions aren't doing their job and should leave.)

"Boats are safe in the harbor, but that's not what they're made for." -- Maritime quote

and lighthouse

it's endemic the same reasoning was used by seeBS in picking Katie.  The second problem is their refusal to learn from the results of their actions based on their faulty reasoning.

 “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts

Think of it as an advertisement

This is just another promotion from the far left (NYT), to get more viewers for the far left. Simple as that

 

"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest". Mark Twain

This is all very familiar.

This is all very familiar. Air America was doing great...until they filed for bankruptcy. This is the same old tired argument that somehow there is a vacuum of left leaning news that needs to be filled. I believe that there is a vacuum of far-left loonie news on the market and if Rosie had succeeded in landing at MSNBC, there would be no mirror show on FNC to balance her; she would be in a class all by herself.

Can someone explain the

Can someone explain the change in the way ratings are tallied?

It seems to me that adding "Same day DVR" would mean that programs never have to actually be watched.

It opens up the door for "Hey even if you don't watch me DVR me so we can defeat that evil Fox network" campaigns to skew the numbers??!!??

I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.

 

Anybody else think KO is

Anybody else think KO is beginning to look like "Second City's" Eugene Levy, and is now doing a parody of himself?

Come to think of it, if you cover your right eye and cross your left eye while looking at Matthews he looks like "Second City's" John Candy ...

Warner,

...the one that didn't pan out due to Rosie's queering the deal.

LOL-Ineresting choice of words there.

Olbermann is a baffoon. The only hope he has to ever out-distance BOR in the ratings is if Bill gets kidnapped by aliens. 

And even then, I am not sure it would happen. 

Buffoon

...also rank and repetitive ranter, hysteric, foul-mouthed, libel-spewing cretin and unimaginative dunderhead.

Poster Child for "Bill O'Reilly/Fox Derangement Syndrome", his whiny, grating harangues mar the very air of this great country.

...Ok. Maybe he's not THAT bad.

But Lord, he's not good!

 

 

 

 

They are Swine

There should not be any question as to why the old media can only see trends on the left... they plucked their "right" eye out years ago, and no longer believe the right side even exists. Out of sight, out of mind. And since they can no longer see the right, they think no one else can either.

They have descended into madness and see UFO's everywhere, but cannot see that they themselves have become the greatest threat to the safety and integrity of our (now tetering) nation. They are leading a whole generation of impressionable young Americans down the garden path and at the end of that path is national disaster.

They rave at those on the right and call them fools, but then don thier tin foil hats and resume their task of undermining our culture, our society, and our American values. Then they have the gall to call themselves "patriots".

They are vanity pigs in news drag coming through the TV to sell you the journalistic equivalent of Florida swampland.

Well, look at the chart!

From Nov. 5 to Nov. 6 on the graph provided, BOR's viewership was down 100,000 while Odormann's was UP by 100,000. Translated into percentages, O'Reilly was down 3.8%, Odormann up by 14%. He smoked him!

Remember, this article is by the same people who can read a several-billion-dollar increase in a budget proposal as a cut in funding, depending on who does the proposing.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics...

It's even worse if you do

It's even worse if you do real numbers...Olbermann has about 770,000 viewers, BOR 3 million. So Olberman would be up to 878,000. BOR would be down to 2,886,000.

Now that's what I call "tantalizingly close" (to quote the NYT).

Exactly!

Couple million here, couple million there, they could be tied! It's Florida 2000 all over again!

In regards to Olbermann's

In regards to Olbermann's ratings:

So, if the actual facts don't fit the agenda of the story, The New York Times just changes them now? Has anyone called them on this? It's one thing to report the facts and twist the interpretation, but when you start actually making the facts up, you've really forfeited any credibility... 

Another guest for "Celebrity Blowup"

May the Good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon!

As someone that has looked

As someone that has looked at the ratings for the 2 over the last couple of years Krazy Keith appears to be (very very) slowly building a audience. You can never believe what he says though. He used to brag about 20% this and 20% that but at the end of the day Bill O. is still by far the king of cable news.

I would like to see the rating with and without the DVR (LS) factor. I'm sure the change (LS) in the way ratings are gathered helps the Krazy Kieth's out there.

One thing I have noticed is when there is a BIG story King Bill blows Krazy Kieth out of the water. So the news of the day has a lot to do with the ups and downs of ratings. Apparently Olberloon's fans tune to Big Bill when there is REAL news out there...lol.

I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.

 

Does anyone know where I

Does anyone know where I can find the top 100 television ratings??? There was a website that listed the top 100 but it is no longer around.

I'm always curious where shows like "The Office" and "30 Rock" place. The MSM loves these shows and writes about them as if they were top 5 shows.

"Arrested Development" was another favorite of the MSM. The show never cracked the top 75 yet was nominated and won several awards.

BTW is there any doubt that "Lions for Lambs" will do very well at the "Oscars" and "Golden Globes" and make no money at the box office!

 

I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.