Obama's 'Service in College' Program at Change.gov Promises $40 an Hour

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change-gov2Talk about "change." The latest version of president-elect Barack Obama's ever-evolving ideas for "community service" promises to pass out quite a bit of it to America's college students.

The "America Serves" (link is to Google cache) and "Service" sections of Team Obama's Change.gov site have, uh, changed quite a bit over the past day or so after many, including Kerry Picket of Newsbusters, noted that the "service" proposals require youth conscription, i.e., a non-military draft.

As of 8 AM this morning, Team Obama's cleanup operation is nearly complete, with almost all coercive language purged.

But one item noted last night by Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs remains in the "Service" section (a copy for future reference is here if/when the existing link changes), with a stunning quantitative modification:

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$4,000 in value for 100 hours is $40 an hour, tax-free. For most students, because they pay no federal income tax, this will amount to an annual handout of $4,000 less the value of the service they provide (bravely assuming that it's productive), which would be at most the private-sector equivalent of about $12 an hour with benefits, or $1,200.

Space doesn't permit me to go into all of the mind-boggling distortions this would lead to, but here's a start (some information was obtained from the tables listed at this page at collegeboard.com):

  • Thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of the roughly 3.2 million high school seniors who graduate each year who aren't cut out for college, or aren't yet ready for what's left of its rigors, will not go into private-sector jobs that might make sense for them, but will instead erroneously or prematurely choose higher education, partially because of this perk.
  • Administering the program will require a vast bureaucracy, including verifications that kids indeed attended eligible schools (full-time?), indeed did the service, didn't drop out as soon as their service was completed, etc., etc. This bureaucracy will almost certainly impose paperwork requirements on colleges, as well as charitable and government organizations, that can ill afford it.
  • Roughly 60% of high-school grads go directly on to college. Let's estimate that this puts 8 million kids in college at any one time (I think the number is higher, but I can't prove it right now). If they are required to put in the service (that's what the site still says), the program would cost Uncle Sam $32 billion a year (8 million x $4,000).
  • In the last fiscal year, the entire Department of Education spent $66 billion. This one program would expand the Department's budget by almost 50%, before adding a dime for administration.
  • More practically, are there 800 million hours (8 million kids at 100 hours each) of meaningful community service work out there? Even if there is, how do you manage a program with the equivalent of almost 400,000 (corrected from 4 million earlier) full-time employees efficiently and effectively? Wal-Mart, which is I believe the nation's largest employer, has 2.1 million employees. (Ironic/never happen suggestion of the day: Maybe Uncle Sam should outsource program administration to Wal-mart. At least they might keep it under control).

If President Bush had proposed this, the howls would have been never-ending. As it is, I suspect there will be little if any media notice -- of the cost, or the coercion.

I also copied the paragraph about College Serve-Study because its reference to "instead of jobs in dining halls and libraries" seems more than a little condescending -- and all too typical. Apparently, "community service" bought for $40 an hour is more noble than doing jobs that serve actual customers.

To the extent there is any coverage, I expect fawning praise and a contention that Obama really won't "require" it -- despite the plain language and the web page's current title:

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"Voluntary" or "universal" -- which is it, guys?

Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.

—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters


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»→ Mo Money Mo Money

I'm signing up for soup kitchen duty.  My wife too.

$8,000 ain't hay.  I ain't making $40 bucks an hour at my regular job, and I'd be stupid to turn down such a lucrative part-time job.

  • Where's my welfare check?

Change

I read through a section yesterday as long as I was able and quit.

Who is he going to tax for the revenues to fund all of this? 

JDW

DAILY WAVE

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Why, he's gonna tax us!

Only yesterday he tried to make it "required" until someone pointed out it was against the 13th Amendment to the Constitution.

Now he is showing what his "change" is all about. (there one day and gone the next)

"Forget change, I want improvement!"

Change

Indentured servitude 

JDW

DAILY WAVE

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An indentured servant...

...is a form of debt bondage worker.

The laborer is under contract of an employer
for some period of time, usually three to seven years, in exchange for
their transportation, food, drink, clothing, lodging and other
necessities.

Boobama's plan is plain ol' cotton-pickin' Slavery.

Indentured Servant 2

Change.gov: ... “Obama and Biden will set a goal that all middle and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year, and will establish a new tax credit that is worth $4,000 a year in exchange for 100 hours of public service a year.”...

I saw nothing concerning the consequences if they come up short or refuse.

This has been updated to no longer contain all.

JDW

DAILY WAVE

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Forget indentured servitude

Let's talk about plain ordianiary slavery.  That is what the fewer and fewer taxpaying citizens are going to become.

At what level of taxation will I officially be able to call myself a "slave"?  When the government demands at least 50% of my income/labor?

Dictionary: "Servitude: a right possessed by one person to use another's property."

»→ You are there

Given all the taxes embedded in the cost of merchandise, the State, Federal, and local taxes and fees, the "tax-free" date is already Late May, isn't it?

All together now

Nobody Know de trubble I seed

  • 40 Acorns & a Mewl

More Acorn

volunteers? 

 

When you can't ask a question to your leaders anymore, that gets scary. That bothers me."

Samuel "Joe the Plumber" Wurzelbacher

I sure hope you guys are

I sure hope you guys are caching all these pages as they change.

Because as sure as God made green apples, down the road we will be hearing that "I have always said....." or "The plan has always been....."

There is no way in hell that any of this can happen without a complete government takeover of the higher education system in this country, just like they now run the elementary and high schools.

 

 

It's coming

Many people warned ( to the deaf ears of the MSM ) that this was coming. Socialism/Communism will set in so fast, American's heads will spin.

P.S. Obama called himself a "mutt" yesterday. Funny, that's just what I was thinking as I watched that "pack o' mutts" sitting around that table. They didn't exactly inspire any confidence. America is in more trouble than it realizes. Prepare yourself.

 

Never, Never trust a "liberal"

pure mutt

Isn't the mutt comment offensive to all interracial folks? Where's that apology?

I had another name for him,

I had another name for him, but I'll keep it to myself. I don't want to be banned.

»→ First Mutt

I thought dogs are unclean.

  • Where's my welfare check?

Party Chairman Barack Obama

A despot that even Chairman Mao would love. 

Chairman Slick

Is anyone else getting that creepy feeling that we're seeing the perfection of "NewsSpeak"?

I mean, it's as if they're using the book for their every move!

I'm beginning to think that the big "O" really refers to Orwell!!

ministry of truth

YES, I agree!

There is no money for

There is no money for this.

-Dave

Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?

§ Dave...Yes there is!!!

Chew on Grass!!!

I'm getting tired of your Negative Attitude!!!

Make it Work!!

Ster.

I am a peripheral visionary. I can see the future, but only way off to the side.

LOL.

LOL.

-Dave

Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?

There is no money for

There is no money for this.

No kidding.  Just the college and tax-credit thing alone would bankrupt us. 

PS:  after reading the blurbs on the "Office of the President-Elect" website <gag> I had one thought:

Someone needs to tell Obama and Sidekick Joe that "universal" and "voluntary" are mutually exclusive.

So, for an ivy league

So, for an ivy league school, that comes out to be, what, 3% of annual tuition? 

 

Sarah Palin/Jason Lewis 2012

Obama is a pathological nacissist: http://www.faithfree...

THERE'S a point,

isn't this what everyone complained about during our Nam experience?? The "rich" kids got all the breaks, so now it would seem that the rich kids won't be interested, more poor folks doing "community service" (community and organizer some how ring a bell) and then there is the question of - 'where's the catch??'

What's driving this? No other plans for the economic recovery? Dumb down college education, so everyone has a degree?

Quote one famos Dan - "If it looks like a duck, walks like . . ."

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Screw Change

This is going to be a part of an even bigger, grander scheme of things, such as the neighborhood National Security Force he was advocating about.  When in place and fully implemented, it will be Obama's Army, bigger and well funded than the DoD itself.

Shades of Hitler's SS, Storm Troopers, Brown Shirts, Hitler Youth, when he first took power in 1933.  The German Army, the Wehrmacht, was hopelessly underfunded and impotent in stopping these illegal HItler machinations.

This is what we are going to be headed too.  Screw Change! HIstory is prone to repeating itself...

(Vulgarity edited from original post).

Semolina

Right on. Americans shouldn't be surprised if they see groups of Black Panthers with billy clubs in their neighborhoods. It already happened at a Pennsylvania polling place.We were warned and we didn't listen (especially the MSM). We still refuse to see what is right before our eyes. Sad.

Never,Never trust a "liberal"

semolina

semolina,

Please avoid vulgarity in comments here. This is a family-friendly site filled with conservatives that don't like expletives. Fair enough?  ns

sorry..fair enough.

sorry..fair enough.

Noel

is the word "hell" appropriate in any context? thanks.

sem

sem,

Yeah, hell's not a problem, although I think I use heck in articles unless I'm referring to the actual place. :-) ns

Oh sure,

one little comment about " .  . in a hand basket" and all heck will break loose?? btw - when the time comes, look for me at the third fire pit on the right - it's gonna be lonely there, what with all the loonies over on the left side!

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

;-) mother says Good

;-) mother says

Good arguments are not made stronger by the use of foul language.  People here respond just fine to arguments made in conventional terms.

Update : Just saw your editing.

Thanks. ;-)

Mother belt...

apologies mother belt, sorry.

SF

Guns

ObamaOne said exactly that. My wife long ago said he is the anti-Christ and I noted the "equal to the DoD" remark with alarm when he said it. If he begins to build such an organization or they start imposing restrictions on guns I will begin a rational, legal program to be prepared for extra-constitutional actions by His Army.

Anti-Christ

I once scoffed at this notion when I read some people's opinions on other websites..however, I am not so sure anymore.  The blind adulation of not only Americans but the world.....it's hard to say whether or not he's the Biblical anti-christ but the results of his machinations in a secular sense will probably be just as bad. 

Anti Christ?

My coworker told me the day after the election, the Illinois lottery's numbers were 6-6-6.  Just looked it up, "Evening Pick 3" results, 666.

http://www.illinoisl...

 

Sarah Palin/Jason Lewis 2012

Obama is a pathological nacissist: http://www.faithfree...

Just gets worse

The $32 billion is just the half of it. Can there be little doubt that this will just be a way to organize a new generation of democrats at the taxpayers expense?

ARE YOU A COLLEGE

ARE YOU A COLLEGE STUDENT?

SIGN UP NOW FOR THE NEW AMERICAN OPPORTUNITY TAX CREDIT WORTH $4000 A YEAR IN EXCHANGE FOR 100 HOURS OF PUBLIC SERVICE.

ALLOWED PUBLIC SERVICE PROJECTS
1. Volunteer for the Obama 2012 Re-Election campaign.
2. Organize your community around the theme Obama is Good.
3. Shoot and post a video on YouTube extolling the benefits of an Obama Presidency.
4. Err, that’s it.

If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same...
Yours is the earth and all that's in it...

I think there's an extra "o"

I think there's an extra "o" in #2.  :)

sp... ...LOL...good

sp...

...LOL...good one.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

predict the spin

Time for another game of Guess the Lefty Spin. Here are your options:

A) What's the big deal? This is all part of governing from the center.

B) You silly people, taking an unfair snapshot of his website before he had time to change his mind. He scrubbed all the other bogus ideas and will scrub this one too - so it's harmless.

C) Bush tried to impose the draft before the MSM caught on to it, so this is nothing new.

D) Those restaurants and grocery stores don't need cheap labor from full time students. Let them all hire more adults who demand higher wages! That won't raise food prices at all!!

 

 

 

I'm a typical white person.

§ Can...I'm Here!!!!

Tell me what to do!!!

Even Though I'm not GOOD ENOUGH to hear your Show...

I'm not ....whatever...

Ster.

I am a peripheral visionary. I can see the future, but only way off to the side.

here ya go ster

Go right now and look up the names of your Congress critters and report back on the GOP thread as to the situation in your state. 

PS - You can be on my show just fine...right after Shy. :p

 

I'm a typical white person.

Chaos Theory

Can you imagine the utter chaos this will cause? Every year "employers/users" will have 4 million untrained, unmotivated children looking to put in their time and get the money. Every 2 1/2 weeks you get a new batch that need to be processed, trained, supervised (probably by someone making less than the conscripts, which makes for an interesting dynamic). We will have the cleanest roads in the world, the best marked trails in our National Parks. Our courts impose community service all the time and I would bet most hours are spent standing around with their thumb you know where. Then ObamaOne wants to unleash not the miscreants of society but the intelligentsia of our youth to "help" maybe a twenty-year truck driver hauling garbage to the landfill. Perhaps they will discuss what change means to the Law of the Sea Treaty and net size affecting Dolphin kills. Does Obama believe that the sum of many part-time gigs is equal to full-time work? Have we ever had a group Einstein or even a group Nuclear Power Plant Operator? You know, after the first ten guys learn individual skills needed to control a reactor, well, the eleventh guy Takes Control! That's a Green Job!

Have you seen the job application on the deceptive Change.gov website. It is about the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Anyone qualified for a political appointment wouldn't be caught dead filling it out. I imagine they will get many apps proudly stating their last job was at McDonalds as a fry cook first class. I couldn't resist applying myself. If I get hired it will be because I am a window order taker trainee second class. Yes. And Change.gov is copyrighted by an Obama 501c, NOT the government as it is designed to appear. Why hasn't the media ridiculed this site as they would have if McCain had put it up?

"Every year

"Every year "employers/users" will have 4 million untrained, unmotivated children looking to put in their time and get the money. Every 2 1/2 weeks you get a new batch that need to be processed, trained, supervised (probably by someone making less than the conscripts, which makes for an interesting dynamic)."

I have been one of those stuck with supervising 'court ordered' public service at my volunteer fire department. Didn't take long to figure out that a criminal sentenced to 40 hours of community service was a joke. The only one sentenced was the 'supervisor' who had to put in the hours to supervise the criminal. Do the judges really think we can let the 'criminals' run loose in a facility with millions of dollars worth of equipment, a lot of it small enough to be carried off. We stopped accepting the 'free' (joke) labor. If I have to be  there I may as well do the work myself.

Old, Retired and glad of it.

 NOTE: Corrected to 400,000. Yours,a dn Scrapiron's points stand -- Tom.

Yes!

Then there is always the "What's this button do? OOHH!"

jaywl

Right you are.  Years and years ago I worked for a non-profit, and had to "coordinate" community service workers.  Basically, society folks caught driving with too high a blood-alcohol content.

In other words, people with no skills whatsoever.  Who wouldn't deign to pull weeds, much less helping in the kitchen or whatnot.

Do you think these pampered college kids will be any different?

This is a boondoggle of the first order, and I predict it will be sooner rather than later that The One "changes" his idea about his Obama corps.

 

Oh flaxen hair, such a synic(sp?)

Barry won't care what happens, he'll just blame the pubs for blocking the "needed" money, and if the public gets around to understanding what is going on, then he'll just explain that WE don't understand what he was trying to do, and just have to take his word that everything will be ok. PLUS, he'll just point to himself as someone who made it, without any experience too - so why can't these pampared minds of mush make it happen?

BUT, what are these folks going to be doing anyway - has that been mentioned yet?

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Have a problem with a

Have a problem with a couple of things.

1.  Why is an obvious political program on a .gov site?  Is there something out there like a, "Help George Bush Kill Terrorists.gov" site out there, too that I'm missing?

2.  Exactly what the heck is "The Office of the President Elect"?  I don't remember that one from civics class.  Interesting that they came up with a sign for it repleat with a professional layout, surely  focus-group tested fonts, little Presidential Seal logo on it...and in less than a week.

Anybody else think this guy is just making up stuff as he goes along?

Or, (maybe as bad, not sure yet), this is stuff he's been planning on all along?

I wonder if his personal presidential seal they rolled out months ago and/or his personal O logo has actually been resigned to the dust bin? Or will it suddenly re-appear and nobody will blink an eye like with this brand new 'office' nobody's ever heard of before?

 

One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

dot gov -- I was wondering

dot gov -- I was wondering that too as he is President ELECT. Maybe someone familiar with the rules on this could way in.

If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same...
Yours is the earth and all that's in it...

§ Jack...I'm Watching Football...TAKEOVER!!

I'll be Watching Football!!!

Later!!! 

Ster.

I am a peripheral visionary. I can see the future, but only way off to the side.

There's a thread about the

There's a thread about the whole dot gov and president elect thing at MM.

http://michellemalki...

Yeah, I noticed that

Yeah, I noticed that picture here this morning and commented on it. It's a bit creepy.

I'm waiting for the banner "Change we can believe in...only X mor days...."

Or maybe he'll start wearing a ball cap (that someone "gave" him, of course) that says "President-Elect" or similar.

Have you ever seen anyone so ostentatious in his own aggrandizement?  When was the last time you saw a Presidential candidate give a victory speech ALONE on a stage? And of course, he had nothing to do with the "President" logo on his seat on the plane. And replacing the US emblem with his own on the tail....and his own quasi-Presidential seal on his podium during speeches....and let's not forget the Greek temple spectacle.

Whoever wrote that recent article about his narcissism really had him pegged.  

I'm no psychologist, but I've said all along that when someone keeps insisting "It's not about me"  you can bet the mortgage that's exactly who it's all about!

but -

when will the "House" color change?

And, how is Barry gonna feel, being served by butlers and others of color? Will they be let go, replaced by a more diverse crew?

AND, what happens or will be said when Barry lets the current federal prosecutors go? Investigation? The dummy dems have painted a strange corner for themselves.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

no fasted

Michelle has already said she will only hire white people to cook/clean around her. 

 

I'm a typical white person.

Just think of what is going

Just think of what is going to be done to the Justice Dept and AG's....let alone other departments they can clean out...

President Bush made a big mistake not doing this right off after taking office.

Plus the EO's are going to be something I fear that O declares.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Just like Oprah!!

Just like Oprah!!

#2.  Apparently, judging by

#2.  Apparently, judging by the logo, that office can have any logo it wants, and doesn't have an official one. (if the office actually exists, that is, uhhh, pre-Obama I mean).  Reason I say that is that the colors are nothing different from his presidential seal-like logo from months ago.  That tells me that the office of the president-elect doesn't have one and the Obamer is making it up.

Sophmore project

Seems like they're scrambling to finish a group project for "Human Geography 101".

It's a lame effort; they're hoping for a "C".

Retroactive?

Since I have 14 years as a volunteer firefighter/EMT (ending on the day or before Hussein becomes president)  I want the $40 per hour to be retroactive. Thousand of volunteer fire/rescue members are holding their breath,  not. It may be a good time for all volunteer departments to become paid (union with all benefits). It'll only cost the tax payers a few, actually a lot of,  billions of dollars.

Old, Retired and glad of it.

President-elect

What does the "Office of the President-Elect" do?

1.  Insult former first ladies

2.  Questions about dogs: hypoallergenic versus mutts like himself

3.  Make unintelligible comments about the economy, after running with it to the elections

4.  Absorb the leftover media adulations towards him

5.  Plot when, where, and the timing of the incoming purges against his opponents

Oh, and showcase the podium with "Office of the President-Elect" written all over it.  Enough said.

Watch it change again

I think that is supposed to read  $4000 at the end of the four years for 100 hours of service per year which would be $10.00 per hour.  I seem to recall him saying that a few months ago.   These folks need someone who was home-schooled to work for them and understands basic reading comprehension. 

 

Even at $10.00 per hour it is outrageous.  They want to take my tax dollars and “donate” it to a bunch of college kids to participate in a program that is ridiculous, impossible to administrate, and will be rife with abuse. 

The Coddler-in-Chief

Indeed, Adrienne, as a grader of papers by freshman students, I can see how many of the students really shoudn't even be at college.  That job has destroyed whatever faith I had left in public education. 

And now of course the Shahinshah wants to coddle and baby them at our expense. 

No, it said "$4000 per

No, it said "$4000 per year."

Great college program

There already IS a college program that allows kids to have their college paid for in exchange for service!

It is called ROTC. 

(Oh yeah, that involves things like real work and dedication, and serving your country.  Those are thing all Socialists and pampered children all detest.  Never mind.)

Goal?

They also changed the high-school program to read "a goal of" instead of "required".  Ummm, yea.  They'll attain their "goal of" by the unspoken "required".

Coddler in Chief  - I

Coddler in Chief  - I taught religious ed to 7th – 12th graders and the majority of the 12th graders were functionally illiterate and were headed to community college for remedial work.  Can you say “See Spot run?

If they have all the kids picking up trash who's going to push the little pictures of hamburgers on the McDonalds cash registers??

Good afternoon Adrienne

My wife was a teacher at a high school  and the students here are the same. She was moved to tears one day when a young marine came to visit her at school. He was one of the troublemakers she had tried to help that dropped out of school. He got his GED, went into the marines and came back to thank her for encouraging him to get away from his crowd and make something of himself. Some of those you taught have succeeded. I like your name.

Your wife is a saint

Anyone who teaches and saves just one person is a saint. I do try to remind myself that we may never know what good we may have done. 

Thanks - I like my name, too.  I'm named after my mother ....one of the smartest ladies I ever "met"

Sounds to me like...

...a way to swell the ranks of "community organizers".

You missed the most telling point Mr. Blumer

Mr. Blumer, forget the paperwork, forget the "work", but follow the money.

Children paid 40 dollars an hour who are for the most part social retards currently thinking they will be paid to play video games are not going to be working at said businesses who need them for summer employment.
Net result Obama's plan will crash summer industry jobs unless there is another Obama mandate to make parttime jobs now pay 40 bucks and hour for kids.

Now for the big fish. Those extra billions are not going to the Department of Education, but to Obama's liberal college money hogs.
That means a pay off of billions to Bill Ayers.

This money is tax free unlike money working at Walmart which means a huge dip in revenues for government for these 8 million workers over the summer, 8 dollars per hour, 40 hour weeks, 320 bucks a week, around 120 in SS and taxes.

120 x 8 million equals a summer short fall of  11,520,000,000

That is 11 and a half billion dollars in Social Securty and Income Taxes over one summer the government is not going to be taking in.

I heard on a Canadian radio program an Obama supporter from Chicago speaking as an expert who stated Obama is not going to cut any programs (contrary to what he said in the town hall debate), so that means by the tally the bill George Bush has run up each year, cutting defense by 25% (this means cutting military programs and instead drafting people to be used as fodder instead of missiles which are more expensive when troops are poorly trained) PLUS, the 800 billion give away to 3rd world dictators, 2 trillion in Obamacare, the Obama stimulus, Obama auto and whatever else perks Obama is handing out in another trillion.

Obama is going to require 4 trillion dollars more. It is impossible except to do what he has planned. I will post on that once it is worked out and break it in Newsbusters hopefull in the next few days.

America you have no idea what Saul's taxes are going to do to you.

Not going to let wet pantie Peggy Noonan, patrican David Brooks, deluded black people or the PUMA people who voted almost entirely for Obama along with that plumper Cynthia McFadden who seems the Obama diet like many liberal women makes them fat, forget what they have unleashed on America.

Here lies the United States
She use to be grand she used to be great
All before Obama came
With liberal lies and liberals to blame

 

agtG

 

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

Great post.

Great post.

money

I'll soon be a billionaire so I'm going to get another wheelbarrow to "move my money around" like the rich folk do.

You are absolutely correct, and ....

.... thank you for taking the time to get it down.

the damage done by the distortion of the labor market (already substantial because of the perverse incentives of the college financial aid system, will be very, very severe.

Wordstudy

Current work study at colleges pays $7.75 / hour. My daugther puts in about 8 hours a week at this. In her case she is a tutor and helps corrects grammar on students papers, and also provides help with several software programs. $40.00 an hour for "community service" seems excessive to say the least.

 

"Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink."  P.J.O'Rourke

Obama/Biden's Plan for

Obama/Biden's Plan for Universal Voluntary Public Service will be run by ACORN, so sign your kiddies up, sign them up five times. Sign up Micky Mouse, just get the signatures so you can get paid!

What's with the UNIVERSAL part?  Doesn't appear to be a typo for NATIONAL?  Is this more of the 'we are the world' crap?  Not too sure our universities can hold all the foreigners.

2.5 Weeks

That's just 2.5 weeks of fulltime work. I have to work a month in real life for that kind of "change." Where do I sign up?

How about the over age 55 stuff?

This concerns me, too.  Is O going to force middle age and elderly people into "volunteer" service, also?  Will they have to serve without payment?

My kids went to school in Los Angeles and the public school system there (at least a couple of years ago) required annual "voluntary community service" for middle school and high school kids.  Yeah, it was so voluntary that you could not graduate without it.  Even my daugher at a private Christian high school still had to do the time. The volunteer service was a disaster - none of the kids wanted to do the work nor were they really equipped to do it.  Are there any other cities/states that require this same nonsense?

I'm wondering if this is what he is using as a model for his plan.

rules for radicals

I'm wondering if this is what he is using as a model for his plan

he got the model from Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals: Step-by-Step Guide to overthrow America.

 

 I know what 'community

 I know what 'community service' Obama plans for these students:

-100 hours yearly training in:

-Urban pacification,

-Night time dynamic entries into private residences,

-Small arms training,

-Applied aggressive interrogation techniques; and

-Goosestepping.

-Field trips to Waco TX and Ruby Ridge are available for extra credit.

 

 

NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE

An article worth reading

Did anyone read this article "Understanding Obama:The Making of a Fuehrer", by Ali Sina, dated 9/22/2008?  It was on the web site FaithFreedom.org. Here is the link to the site: http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html

I knew that Obama was narcissistic but this was a real eye opening article and well worth the read.

Remember folks, it's hard to soar with eagles when you are surrounded by a flock of turkeys.

SD... I saw that earlier

SD...

I saw that earlier by vrwc I think and saved it to read some more about...just the pictures say a lot...glad you also posted this.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Yes, eye-opening and not at

Yes, eye-opening and not at all biased or slanted... 

Fake

Of course, if this were an article or news report that slavisly supports your Socialist God, the Shahinshah, we'd all be in for a round of apologism from you.

What a fake you have turned out to be.   

"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!!  A WAR ON FREEWILL IS COMING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)

How is that "fake" Unsane?

How is that "fake" Unsane? I can't point out that an article posted here is biased? I've admitted that the media reaction to Obama has been over the top.

Excellent article

I read that this morning and it is excellent! I'm going to post a link on my blog tomorrow and anyone with a blog should think about doing that....

Sevice in College Program changed

So the new .gov site with the Service in College Program has been changed now to reflect a more user friendly tone.

According to http://mypetjawa.mu.nu it's now changed from develop a plan to require 50 hrs of community service to setting a goal.  It's going to be hard to dance the obamarama.  The steps keep changing.

It's America, not Omerica

 

change.gov agenda GONE

Guess what folks - it's gone.  The whole thing has been taken down.......

Oh man - the next four years are going to be fun.  I'm excited!

Adrienne... Hey thanks

Adrienne...

Hey thanks for the update...fun indeed.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Adrienne

see they're changing already :)

   “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts

Adrienne

This is the kind of change we can believe in? I'm going to need a LOT of medication to get through the next four years, but hell.. it's on anyway, might as well have some fun.  Thanks for the update.

It's America, not Omerica

 

How can OBAMA call it

How can OBAMA call it VOLUNTARY Community Service if he intends to PAY them for it?? WTF???

Last time I checked that wasn't called "Communty Service" it was called a JOB !!!

Someone needs to ask him that.

Never underestimate the power of STUPID people in large groups.