Joe Biden's 1987 stump-speech plagiarism of Neil Kinnock likely occurred more than once. Additionally, according to contemporaneous New York Times reports, including an editorial, Biden's orations featured unattributed speech-lifting from John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, and Hubert Humphrey.
That's a lot more than Joe Biden's defenders and two of his Wikipedia entries have thus far revealed.
Previous posts (here and here at NewsBusters; here and here at BizzyBlog) noted "interesting" modifications to the main Wikipedia entry of Biden, who Barack Obama selected as his vice-presidential running mate this past weekend.
The first post reported that the detail of Biden's undergraduate grades (generally C's and D's, with two A's in phys ed and an F in ROTC) "strangely" disappeared between Friday and Saturday. The second ultimately noted that a section relating to Biden's involvement in the presidential campaign of 2004 had been deleted, but that its text had inexplicably been moved to before 1988. It was as if the idea that Biden had "campaigned" in 2004 was true before Barack Obama selected him, but no longer true after that.
But to get to the next example of Wiki whitewashing by Obama-Biden's busy bees -- the worst found thus far -- we need to go back 21 years to the New York Times.
The first relevant article is from September 12, 1987 ("Biden's Debate Finale: An Echo From Abroad"), and comes from Maureen Dowd, who wrote (bold is mine):
At various campaign appearances last month, the Senator talked admiringly about Mr. Kinnock's themes and incorporated phrases and concepts after first crediting the Briton. But, in his closing remarks at the Iowa State Fair forum, he did not mention the Labor leader, nor did he some days later in an interview when he recounted the positive response.
Then, on September 17 ("Biden Was Accused of Plagiarism in Law School"), E.J. Dionne expanded the scope of the stump-speech plagiarism beyond Kinnock (bolds are mine):
This week politicians from both parties - some of them partisans of other candidates in the Democvratic Presidential race - told members of the press of additional instances in which Mr. Biden had used the language and syntax of others, including John F. and Robert F. Kennedy and Hubert H. Humphrey.
..... Some of the similarities in speeches were noted by The San Jose Mercury News and by The Des Moines Register in their Tuesday editions, and by The New York Times today. CBS News and ABC News broadcast reports on the subject this evening.
Mr. Biden and his aides have argued that the charges concerning his speeches are unfair, saying he used Mr. Kinnock's remarks often and usually attributed them to the British leader. The instance in which he did not, his aides said, was a lapse. Mr. Biden's campaign also argues that public officials frequently use material from the speeches of politicians of earlier generations.
At that point, the Dionne seemed to be casting doubt on the alleged non-Kinnock lifting. But a caustic Times editorial that same day was a lot less skeptical about at least one such specific example, and about one other person named by Dionne (bolds are mine):
As generations of teachers keep saying, plagiarism is theft. Considering their content, the Biden speeches sound like grand larceny. For instance, in a California speech last February, Senator Biden adopted almost word for word what Robert Kennedy said in 1968 about the gross national product: ''It doesn't measure the beauty of our poetry, the strength of our marriages, the intelligence of our public debates, the integrity of our public officials.'' ..... Lifting that language trashes the very values he was urging.
What makes Senator Biden's behavior mystifying is recklessness. It's one thing to misappropriate someone else's words. It's another to take passages so clearly someone else's that you're likely to get caught. That's true of the Kennedy quotes and even more so of the Senator's abundant lifts of highly personal thoughts about ancestry from Neil Kinnock, the British Labor Party leader. It's a bit like Gary Hart inviting reporters to follow him even as he was seeing women other than his wife - a bit like daring people to catch you.
The misappropriations are troubling for another reason. Hackneyed political oratory gives voters one measure. But Mr. Biden claims to be a candidate with something to say and asks to be measured by that standard. By passing off the words of Neil Kinnock or Robert Kennedy or Hubert Humphrey as his own he deprives voters of his thoughts and his words. His message, counterfeit, clanks.
With that context, let's wheel on over to Wiki.
Here is what the main Wiki entry about Biden had about the 1987 speech plagiarizing as of Friday (with two relevant footnotes included), followed by what was there as of 9:00 a.m. this morning, followed by what the Wiki entry devoted solely to Biden's 1988 campaign had as of 9:00 a.m.:

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Now it's time to call out the relevant Wiki wackiness:
Wiki washout #1 -- Supposedly, the "in all speeches but one" reference (#24) originally had footnoted support. As you can see, Footnote #24 does not deal with how often Biden failed to credit Kinnock. Though others have found evidence that Biden indeed credited Kinnock at other times, I have found no evidence proving, as Wiki breezily claims (but now only in its 1988 Biden presidential campaign entry, in the first red-underlined sentence), that the videotaped speech was the only such example. And where's the footnote in the new location of the "in all speeches but one" claim?
Wiki washout #2 -- Contemporaneous articles at the Times cast significant doubt on the "in all speeches but one" claim. Dowd noted an interview where Biden also failed to credit Kinnock (though it's not a "speech," it is definitely a second example), making it appear that Biden's failures to credit Kinnock may have been repeated and not a mere one-off (Footnote #23 links to Dowd's report). Additionally, Dionne's reference above is to "usually" crediting Kinnock, not doing it "all but once."
Wiki washout #3 -- The second red underlined sentence in the current 1988 presidential campaign entry would seem to contradict, or at least not to support, the idea that Biden failed to properly credit Kinnock only once.
Wiki washout #4 -- Worst of all, there is no indication at either Wiki entry that Biden was accused, and from all appearances accurately, of engaging in additional stump-speech plagiarizing of the Kennedys and Humphrey. Clearly the New York Times of 1987 would agree that it belongs.
The effects of all of this Wiki wackiness are not insignificant:
- Current entries lead readers to believe that Biden only plagiarized Kinnock one time. This is highly unlikely at best, and known by Team Biden to be untrue at worst.
- Current entries lead readers to believe that Kinnock was the only politician whose speeches were plagiarized. Given the evidence presented, that's virtually impossible.
- Current entries give credence to Biden's specious claim at the time he withdrew from the 1988 presidential race that he was undone by "the exaggerated shadow" of his mistakes. The Wiki-driven context supports the presumption of exaggeration.
- Ultimately, many readers will likely infer that all should be forgiven, because even at the time the whole thing seems to have been overblown. That's ridiculous: It's very clear from reading the New York Times articles from the period that once Biden was caught, repeated examples of stump-speech plagiarism cascaded forth, accompanied by demonstrated resume exaggeration and other dishonesty. Biden had to quit to stop the bleeding.
A NewsBusters commenter yesterday regaled me with the notion that what is happening to Biden's Wiki information represents "clean-up, reorganization, and general improvements." I would suggest that this commenter, who unlike me appears to have the time and detailed knowledge and experience to engage in such activities, get to work.
So when will we learn from traditional media beat reporters that at least two of their predecessors called out Joe Biden for serial and far from isolated plagiarism in 1987? Or will MoDo and EJ come clean on their own?
Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.
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Postscript: Let's give thanks to the New York Times. Really.
You see, the Times appeared to be on the verge of dumbing down their search function to the point where deep-archive diving would have been very difficult. But thanks to reader complaints, the Times, though it initially forces readers to use the new feature-poor search, still provides access to the old one.
That old search function enabled me to very easily find the items above showing that Joe Biden's plagiarism went well beyond Neil Kinnock.
Thanks, NYT.
—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters




















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Pravda Lives
August 25, 2008 - 10:20 ET by sawing battabury it, alter it, whitewash, counter accusations.
Expect it.
Anybody Else NOT Surpised?
August 25, 2008 - 10:24 ET by ChasvsWhy am i not surprised by any of this?
Demofacists are so full of crap that they don't care what the TRUTH is.
Biden is just another of the Liberal idiots who are ruining our Country!
Hey Barack, We don't need your stinkin CHANGE ( Or your buddy Joe B either!)
Wikipedia is a liberal tool to help change history
August 25, 2008 - 10:27 ET by c5thenIt is aggressivley patroled to avoid any negative information from being posted about liberal individuals and liberal issues as much as possible. It is also aggressivley patroled to make sure all conservative individuals and issues are shown in as bad a light as possible. Sometimes the bias is so bad that actual innaccuracies are included or significant data excluded in order to meet the biased portrayal that is desired.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
What liberals learned from history
August 25, 2008 - 10:51 ET by Sergeant ROCKIf you repeat a lie often enough, people will begin to believe it.
(See also; Propagandists, Nazi Germany, Soviet Union, etc.)
Biden's plagiarism
August 25, 2008 - 10:29 ET by iveseenitallAnyone, even a student, who plagiarizes someone else's words evinces a lack of character and principles, a lack of honesty, a lack of intelligence, a lack of imagination, and a lazy mind. This shows so much about Biden. He's a blustering bully and an empty suit.
BTW, Obama has also plagiaized. Between him and Biden there is nothing worth anything. I have not one ounce of respect for either of these two phonys.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
A fine Democrat tradition
August 25, 2008 - 10:34 ET by Cool ArrowKahlil Gibran (1918) - “Are you a politician asking what your country can do for you
or a zealous one asking what you can do for your country?
Nowhere did JFK give credit for stealing his most famous line.
I ♣ my seal
Well just read its mission
August 25, 2008 - 10:46 ET by Jack BauerWell just read its mission statement:
Jack... You hit the nail
August 25, 2008 - 12:45 ET by bigtimerJack...
You hit the nail right on the head there!
I love it....changing history indeed.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Get to work! Exactly Tom
August 25, 2008 - 12:26 ET by Dee BunkIt's sad that people who call themselves conservatives would rather take the time to play a gotcha game and complain about people not rereading the same pages in their entirety everyday, than take the time to correct actual liberal bias there. Even though they don't correct it (despite having confidence in it) , they expect people who have no respect or confidence in the way wiki works to do it. Pretty crazy.
It's like telling someone who doesn't like a certain software program (because the formulas don't work right and give incorrect calculations) to stop complaining because you can write your own code and fix it yourself.
No - we'd rather have a computer program that works right and doesn't make errors all the time. We won't use that unreliable software and we will warn people not to rely on that program unless they want to take the time to double check every formula and be willing to make their own program changes. We are not in the business of computer programming and would rather rely on reputable programs.
That .....
August 25, 2008 - 14:17 ET by Tom Blumeris a great analogy, worth repeating:
And, based on what I've read re climate change and Wiki, if I go in and fix the code that doesn't work on the software program, the developer and his misguided fans will come back, undo the fixes, and return it to its original flawed condition.
Bottom Line
August 25, 2008 - 15:58 ET by DaveSThe bottom line: If you aren't willing to read the wiki articles (not "in their entirety everyday", but even ONCE when you are writing an article complaining about it) and you aren't willing to contribute to the articles, then you have absolutely no business complaining about it in the first place.
Why don't you link directly to the revisions that you posted with the (allegedly) "scrubbed" information in it?
Have you participated in the discussion pages where they are debating the proper degree to which the plagiarism should be mentioned, to maintain the proper balance of the article as a whole? Have you thought to go into the discussion to make your case for the inclusion of those bits? Or are you simply a partisan operative with nothing more than a passing partisan interest in the article, who wants to make hit-and-run edits without actually taking the time to maintain and oversee the quality of the article?
And HERE'S A HUGE TIP FOR YOU GUYS:
If you are going to go on and on complaining about Wikipedia articles, quit linking to the article URL... the contents of the article at that URL could be irrelevant 10 seconds after you post the story. Link to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joe_Biden&action=history">specific revision</a> you are interested in--it won't change. At the link I just gave you, the revisions are linked with the date/time stamp. For example, at the moment I am typing this the current revision is linked with the text "20:33, 25 August 2008".
Oh, that's precious
August 25, 2008 - 16:14 ET by Tom BlumerYou say:
Sort of reminds me of the stupid argument that if you're not willing to work in a crisis pregnancy center 40 hours a week you're not qualified to comment on abortion. Stop it already. The wiki-wacky decision to move the 2004 text to before 1988 was deceptive as all get-out. I'm not going to feel guilty about not finding it, just as I don't look in my 2005 calendar to see what I was doing in 2007. Zheesh.
Deceptive?
August 25, 2008 - 17:29 ET by DaveSHow do you figure? There is absolutely nothing deceptive about it, not even remotely.
And your "2005 calendar" analogy is wholey inappropriate. It would be more akin to have a box of calendars spanning the last 3 decades, with a post-it note on the outside of the box saying "In the year 2004, there were no calendars made"
OH ALSO: The clinic/abortion analogy is also silly. Nobody is telling you that you can't have a position on the correctness of the article. Rather, you are being told that you sound silly making petty complaints over minor editorial/semantic changes and attributing them to bias, if you aren't willing to actually contribute any yourself. If you couldn't volunteer 40 hours a week at the center, you are entitled to an opinion on abortion, of course, but you would sound quite silly being petty and critical of the volunteers that do show up.
As said in the body above (you DID read it?)
August 25, 2008 - 21:02 ET by Tom BlumerQuote:
And, according to you, I'm the one who should on trial here for being "partisan"? Surely you jest.
I changed what needed to be changed.
Additionally, one would think that the default assumption should be that the entry, which has probably existed for 4 years or more, was fine until Biden got nominated. The burden of proof is on O-B and Wiki as to why it was inadequate or wrong. It's a catch-22 though, because by saying that it was wrong, Wiki admits that an entry about a sitting US Senator was wrong for perhaps as much as 4-plus years.
Remind me again: Why am I on trial?
The content of my three related posts, especially of this third one, should embarrass anyone at Wiki who cares about historical accuracy and completeness. And it's not my job to do their job for them, or, more importantly, to put controls on who can and can't alter sensitive entries, which they clearly aren't doing.
You now officially have no remaining argument. Deal with it.
Three cheers to you Tom,
August 25, 2008 - 12:42 ET by bigtimerThree cheers to you Tom, what excellent, excellent work.
The proof is right here that you provided...smack dab in the pudding.
Thank you for all your hard-work and eye-opening information...
Of course we all know Wiki has no partisan bias...reliable my arse.
Someone should be held accountable.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Thanks so much for the kind words. This is sad ....
August 25, 2008 - 15:03 ET by Tom Blumer.... because I've actually defended linking to Wiki entries here, as long as the person doing so has the requisite background, experience, memory, etc. to use it to confirm what he or she already knows, or is simply linking to a fact that is very obvious (i.e., using it as a convenience for things like population, demographics, etc. as opposed to using it as "the last word").
The entire Biden exercise of the past few days may cast even that level of attempted reliance into serious doubt.
On a larger level, it's sadder -- another case of "activists" working to ruin something that has so much potential.
Credit Where it's Due
August 25, 2008 - 14:40 ET by nofateAt least someone is giving credit where it's due. Good job Tom. And your ongoing reporting on the shenanigans at Wiki is extremely enlightening. Prior to the coverage by NB, I was unaware what a flawed and biased system they have set up. Here is the best analysis of Wikipedia I have seen, from Robert McHenry in an article titled "The Faith-Based Encyclopedia":
And, if you wish, a few other entries relevant to the utter bias and inaccuracy of Wikipedia:
Liberal Bias at Wikipedia?
'Lib-pedia'? Anti-Conservative Bias Rampant At Wikipedia
Wikipedia John Edwards Page Now 'Protected' From Editing
Wikipedia Disallows Any Mention of Alleged John Edwards Scandal
The Joke that is Wikipedia, by Popular Tech, with a whole host of relevant links.
"The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."
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Hey thanks nofate... "The
August 25, 2008 - 14:46 ET by bigtimerHey thanks nofate...
"The user who visits Wikipedia to learn about some subject, to confirm some matter of fact, is rather in the position of a visitor to a public restroom. It may be obviously dirty, so that he knows to exercise great care, or it may seem fairly clean, so that he may be lulled into a false sense of security. What he certainly does not know is who has used the facilities before him."
What a great analogy.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
F in ROTC
August 25, 2008 - 15:26 ET by 911isbusyI wonder what Biden did to "earn" an F in ROTC. Anyone know?
Those who have not swords can still die upon them.
I just read the Biden article again...
August 25, 2008 - 16:14 ET by DaveSAnd it would appear to give adequate weight to the plagiarism charges. Nobody could read that article and come away without knowing that he had a plagiarism problem.
This nitpicking over little sematic/editorial differences is beginning to make you look... obsessive, I suppose is the most polite way to put it.
DaveS... Quite the
August 25, 2008 - 16:27 ET by bigtimerDaveS...
Quite the contrary...you seem to be the one who is obsessive.
Why don't you give it a rest...or do you just have to have the last word.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Last word? This was his
August 25, 2008 - 16:32 ET by FoolicanLast word? This was his second post on the thread. Ad hominem et tu quoque, anyone?
Climate change, politicians, religion - yes, I'll admit that those subjects, being hot spots, tend to be subject to bias. However, you cannot deride the work of millions of other editors on the rest of the encyclopedia. You may as well burn books.
Fool... He very well
August 25, 2008 - 16:33 ET by bigtimerFool...
He very well knows what I was talking about...thank you very much.
Now I am on to other things.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
How about rude (and wrong)?
August 27, 2008 - 12:15 ET by Tom BlumerMy points are "nitpicking" only if:
- You don't think there's a meaningful difference between plagiarizing one guy one time vs. plagiarizing the same guy two or more (likely at least several more) times.
- You don't think there's a meaningful difference between plagiarizing one guy vs. plagiarizing four (add in JFK, HHH, and RFK).
You can't be serious.