On MSNBC on Monday, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue anchor David Shuster decried a lack of "standards" on Fox News: "The inflammatory rhetoric from the wing nuts, is it merely entertaining or seriously dangerous?....Shouldn't there be some standards at some of these other networks? I mean, that's a problem, isn't it? There's no standards."
But David Shuster really should have looked in the mirror first at the March 12 edition of Countdown, where Keith Olbermann spread the cock-eyed conspiracy theory that there was a Dick Cheney-led "executive assassination ring" in the White House, according to radical-left journalist Seymour Hersh. Sadly, Newsweek’s Howard Fineman only helped Olbermann sell this underbaked, unsubstantiated right-wing death-squad story.
Regardless of which party is targeted, an inflammatory conspiracy theory against a politician should require a higher standard than "I can’t debunk it." (This is essentially the "you can’t disprove it" standard Mary Mapes and Dan Rather used at CBS.)
Olbermann was working from a blog at MinnPost.com by former Minneapolis Star-Tribune reporter Eric Black on an event at the University of Minnesota that featured Hersh and former vice president Walter Mondale. Carter’s veep also laid into Cheney: Mondale said that the precedents of abuse of vice presidential power by Cheney would remain "like a loaded pistol that you leave on the dining room table."
At the top of the show, Olbermann crowed: "Assassination tango: The Bush/Cheney execution squads – Sy Hersh’s stunning scoop." The format of Countdown is odd enough that the unproven claim of a vice president running secret death squads is the number five story of the day. Olbermann began:
In 1976, President Gerald R. Ford issued an executive order that read in part, quote, "No employee of the United States government shall engage in or conspire to engage in political assassination."
Our fifth story on the Countdown tonight: As we reported on this newshour last night, investigative reporter Seymour Hersh, claiming to have uncovered a covert executive assassination ring that reported directly to Vice President Dick Cheney’s office. A reminder -- if one is needed – that in 1976, Mr. Cheney was the chief of staff to President Ford. Meaning, by the time Cheney was back in the West Wing, it appears he had either forgotten about his own boss’ executive order or worse, he had decided to ignore it.
Mr. Hersh is making the revelations at a forum in Minnesota two nights ago. The topic: America’s constitutional crisis. Hersh saying of Mr. Cheney and his inner circle, quote, "They ran a government within the government." Adding, "Eight or nine neoconservatives took over our country."
Hersh’s bombshell allegations about the assassination ring, the result of reporting for a book he says might be still a year or two away from being published. Hersh is telling MinnPost.com in an email after the event, that the disclosures are, quote, "not something he wanted to dwell about in public."
The toothpaste, however, is already out of the proverbial tube here. When the discussion touched upon the abuses of executive power, Mr. Hersh asked how these things tend to happen and whether they continue to happen to this day. In his reply, the reporter describing a secret commando unit officially called the "Joint Special Operations Command."
HERSH (audio clip): It’s a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently. They do not report to anybody except in the Clinton, I mean, in the Bush/Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. They do not report to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff or to Mr. Gates, the secretary of defense. They report directly to him.
They are not -- they have absolutely no -- Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination wing essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on.
And just today in The Times, there was a story saying that its leader, a three-star admiral named McRaven ordered a stop to certain activities because there were so many collateral deaths. It’s been going into, in -- under President Bush’s authority. They’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, well, in the name of all of us.
OLBERMANN: A CIA spokesman today responding to Hersh’s allegations by calling him, quote, "utter nonsense." Two angles on this, at minimum -- John Dean in a moment. First, we’ll call in our own Howard Fineman, senior Washington correspondent for Newsweek magazine, whose book The Thirteen American Arguments has just been released in paperback. Howard, good evening.
HOWARD FINEMAN: Good evening, Keith.
OLBERMANN: If Sy Hersh alleges here, the vice president, the former vice president and a covert assassination ring operated without talking to the CIA, how exactly would the CIA be in the position to call Mr. Hersh’s reporting "utter nonsense"?
FINEMAN: Well, moreover, Keith, if there a – if there in fact is such a thing as Seymour Hersh’s reporting seems to indicate and the CIA was kept in the dark about it, the last thing they would want to do right now is admit it. So, either way, they don’t have an interest in confirming no matter what they know at this point.
In checking around in the intelligence community today, I can say this, you know, Seymour Hersh is somebody they respect. They don’t always trust. But they put it this way, as one of them said to me, look, I don’t know anything about this specifically at all, but I wouldn’t dismiss what Sy Hersh is saying without checking carefully. That’s their backhanded way of saying it’s worth looking into, for sure.
OLBERMANN: Presumably, the second half of his allegations, which was that the CIA was involved significantly in domestic operations in the last eight years, that would be something somebody in the CIA probably could deny with some degree of credibility. But as to the other thing.
FINEMAN: Right.
OLBERMANN: . just because we might not be surprised by what Mr. Hersh is alleging, I mean, people who look at Dick Cheney would say, well, yes, that sounds plausible if it isn’t actually true -- should that make this revelation any less shocking or if true any less egregious and essentially terrifying to the nature of the democracy?
FINEMAN: Well, depressing is another word I would use, and infuriating. If it pans out, if when Sy’s book comes out, it’s all there – because it would be of a piece with the picture that’s emerging. "We became what we beheld," to use a phrase from a great movie called The Untouchables. And I think it’s clear in the days right after 9/11 that, especially Vice President Cheney and he managed to convince George W. Bush, and maybe he didn’t need a whole lot of convincing, that secrecy and really, lawlessness was the way to go in the early days.
And rather than focus on catching Osama bin Laden, to use another phrase, they didn’t let a good crisis go to waste. And they used the atmosphere of crisis after 9/11 for all kinds of aggregation of power – accumulating power in the executive and really within the vice president’s office in a way that we haven’t seen outside of declared wartime and even there, with more strictures than were the case here.
OLBERMANN: Could this report, or report of a report -- since he doesn’t have anything on this yet other than his allegation -- could it possibly put some muscle, some steam behind the truth commission that Senator Leahy is calling for, but a truth commission that would allow for the necessity of prosecutions? Because if this is true, you have to prosecute this, there’s no way around this.
FINEMAN: Yes. This would be even beyond the -- be beyond the powers, I think, of the commission of inquiry that Senator Patrick Leahy is talking about. I talked with one of his aides a little earlier, their point of view is, basically, look, not that many people have signed on to Senator Leahy’s call for a commission of inquiry, but one other shoe-dropping, one other big proven, you know, strong allegation and members of the Senate are going come running to Leahy to sign on. This could be that thing depending on how much it pans out.
I checked with Senator Russ Feingold’s office, he would be one of the people out there pounding on his desk on the Senate floor. He hasn’t done it yet. I think people want to look and see what Sy Hersh has around this topic. But one more really strong series of allegations like those OLS, you know, those Justice Department memos that came out the other week, another one like that, I think, you are going to see a lot of senators wanting to join Senator Leahy’s side on this.
This kind of allegation isn't entirely new to Fineman: He tenderly worked to associate Republicans with Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh on May 8, 1995: "the Oklahoma bombing has illuminated a once dark landscape much farther afield: a radical fringe of militant gun owners, 'hate radio' talk-show hosts, racial extremists, and religious cultists. Their numbers are small -- and their GOP ties tenuous at best. But their fervor is influential at the grass roots Republicans call their own."
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.





Our fifth story on the Countdown tonight: As we reported on this newshour last night, investigative reporter Seymour Hersh, claiming to have uncovered a covert executive assassination ring that reported directly to Vice President Dick Cheney’s office. A reminder -- if one is needed – that in 1976, Mr. Cheney was the chief of staff to President Ford. Meaning, by the time Cheney was back in the West Wing, it appears he had either forgotten about his own boss’ executive order or worse, he had decided to ignore it.
FINEMAN: Well, depressing is another word I would use, and infuriating. If it pans out, if when Sy’s book comes out, it’s all there – because it would be of a piece with the picture that’s emerging. "We became what we beheld," to use a phrase from a great movie called The Untouchables. And I think it’s clear in the days right after 9/11 that, especially Vice President Cheney and he managed to convince George W. Bush, and maybe he didn’t need a whole lot of convincing, that secrecy and really, lawlessness was the way to go in the early days.














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Hypocrisy
March 18, 2009 - 13:35 ET by cvgbuckeyeShuster HAS GOT TO KNOW the hypocrisy of this. No one on the face of the earth can be this blind. He is either the dumbest man on the planet or he hides very well his blindness and deafness.
Its possible that this is the greatest example of intellectual dishonesty in the history of the civilized world.....and more. I'll bet that all the people on the set and in the background are belly-laughing at all of this.
Bodies, please?
March 18, 2009 - 13:41 ET by SickofLibsCorpus delecti is NOT a favorite cannibal dinner.
I dunno...
March 18, 2009 - 13:49 ET bySeymour Hersh has been consistently on-the-money in the past. If he actually has something like that on Cheney -- and he says he does -- then prepare for all new calls for criminal charges when Hersh's book comes out.
Seymour BS
March 18, 2009 - 14:32 ET by slickwillie2001Perhaps your post is satire so dry that I missed it, but Seymour (BS) Hersh has said publicly that it's okay to lie, as long as you don't do it in print (?). How he keeps the two separate is a wonder. The man is a serious loon.
Ref: Sy Hersh's Loose Relationship With the Truth: http://nymag.com
NY Magazine is not exactly a right-wing pub.
Here's another article with a collection of his fables: The Cult of Seymour Hersh: http://mideastoutpost.com
And, there is a cult, of left-wing loonies that defend the man no matter what he says. He should be writing fiction, he could be another Stephen King.
No satire intended
March 18, 2009 - 15:03 ET byI was thinking back to My Lai and several other exposes I know he's been behind that turned out to be quite accurate.
I'll have to check those links though, thanks.
You must be joking
March 18, 2009 - 17:30 ET by Captain KirockSy Hersh is a notorious liar. He takes one kernel of truth and wraps it in lies and fairy tales and then tries to sell it as investigative journalism in a sensational book. If he can't find the kernel, he makes it up himself.
Hmmm...
March 18, 2009 - 18:22 ET byI've always found him to be pretty reliable. Either way, thank God somebody's keeping people like Cheney in line.
Earth to pi...Earth to
March 18, 2009 - 18:24 ET by bigtimerEarth to pi...Earth to pi....
Nobody has to keep Cheney in line you blithering fool.
Oddly...
March 18, 2009 - 18:48 ET by...he still seems intent on exhibiting influence. Need to nip that s*#t in the bud. IN THE BUD!
pi... He has always spoke
March 18, 2009 - 18:56 ET by bigtimerpi...
He has always spoke his mind, the truth hurts you little wimpering leftists...you can't handle it.
I love it.
Yeah...
March 18, 2009 - 18:58 ET byWhat troubles me is what's in his mind. That's one twisted dude.
Past your nap time pi.
March 18, 2009 - 19:03 ET by bigtimerPast your nap time pi.
Well, we
March 18, 2009 - 20:18 ET by UpNorthknow what's in your mind, pi. Absolutely nothing. The following is a link to the webpage of the Special Operations Command, the parent organization of this super secret, hide in the dark, evil organization bent on hegemony over all you leftists. And if this death star, I mean squad, really existed, why is Seymour and Olbiedork still drawing air? Wouldn't Darth Cheney have had them "eliminated"?
Apparently Seymour Hersh can't navigate a web site, or read. But then, that's not surprising, considering the crowd he runs with. But I digress, click the link, read it and let us know what you think. The JSOC is a subordinate command of the Special Operations Command, headquartered at Ft. Bragg. So, pi, no conspiracy here, Seymour has just been watching late night episodes of "The Unit" and thinks it's really real. If he could navigate the web, he'd find all he needed to find about this super secret unit.
http://www.socom.mil...
k...
March 18, 2009 - 20:45 ET byI'll try to get to it tomorrow
~So what are you going to do
March 18, 2009 - 18:27 ET by choselife3xSince Cheney isn't around to blame crap on now?
Will Obama be a 'war criminal' when he uses his reserved power to order waterboarding?
Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism
Yup
March 18, 2009 - 18:45 ET by...he will
~Hypocrite too
March 18, 2009 - 19:18 ET by choselife3xAfter all his empty posturing.
Panetta said he would if necessary ask Obama to allow harsher interrogations than those covered by the Army Field Manual, which the president last month set as the government standard. The manual bans techniques such as waterboarding.
"I would not hesitate," to seek broader interrogation authority, Panetta said, adding "I think that this president would do nothing that would violate the laws that are in place."
Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism
Yuh, well...
March 18, 2009 - 20:47 ET by...that's Panetta, not Obama.
What bothers me right now about Obama is this "soldiers pay for their treatment with private insurance" crap. That won't wash.
WAIT --
March 18, 2009 - 21:52 ET byI'm a hypocrit because I believe Obama would be just as guilty as Cheney if he ordered waterboarding?!?!?
Isn't that THE OPPOSITE OF HYPOCRISY?!?!
DO . YOU . SPEAK . ENGLISH . ???!!!
~Pie
March 19, 2009 - 08:39 ET by choselife3xDO. YOU. READ. ENGLISH. ????!!!!
I was calling OBAMA a hypocrite.
Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism
Ok, sorry...
March 19, 2009 - 09:37 ET byI'm so used to being personally attacked here that I assumed that was directed at me.
But still. Obama says the rules are the same as in the Army field manual. The field manual bans waterboarding. Panetta say's he'll ask if he can waterboard.
How does that make Obama a hypocrit?
~Humble Pie
March 19, 2009 - 12:33 ET by choselife3xMy understanding is that the EO he signed had a loophole that reserved the option to waterboard. Which makes him a hypocrite.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
Re Pie
March 19, 2009 - 16:04 ET by slickwillie2001I am so sick of this waterboarding nonsense. I see it as little more than a frat-boy initiation. If a democratic had been in the White House and done all the same things that President George W. Bush has done, we would not have even heard the term waterboarding. It's all a manufactured issue.
Yeah, well
March 20, 2009 - 15:30 ET byYou may see it as frat-boy "initiation", but all internnational bodies of law as well as the Geneva Conventions see it as a war crime.
But as I've explained to Chose on another thread, it's about more than waterboarding. More than 100 prisoners have died in U.S. custody as the result of torture or physical abuse. That's simply criminal, and whoever gave those orders should be tried.
Of course, none of this has anything to do with Seymour Hersh. Let it be known that I was sticking to the topic of the thread.
~I'd call that a statement
March 20, 2009 - 15:33 ET by choselife3xRather than an 'explanation'. Got a link?
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
It's a total pain to get to now!
March 20, 2009 - 15:44 ET byThat thread has gotten so long.
It's in response to your last response to my response to your "questions that must be answered"
Oh geez, that gave me a headache...
~I hear waterboarding
March 20, 2009 - 15:48 ET by choselife3xCures headaches...
Makes you forget about 'em at least.
Take an aspirin Pie, then join me on your thread. And bring some ice cream.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
LMAO
March 20, 2009 - 16:20 ET byNah... I have my own cure for headaches.
IT'S MARTINI TIME!!!
Later gator
The Truth
March 18, 2009 - 19:25 ET by Captain KirockThe truth is that Cheney is more honest than Hersh.
Of course, most people would be considered more honest than a proven liar like Hersh.
Cheney prob did have an
March 18, 2009 - 13:50 ET by Hack CaffertyCheney prob did have an assasination ring. He prob still does. So what? At least someone is doing the wet work.
Oh, well...if they said it, it must be true.
March 18, 2009 - 13:59 ET by c5thenIf Shuster and Olberman said that maybe Chenney was engaged in some shenanigans, then it must be so.
They have the same credibility as Dan Rather and Mary Mapes and Jayson Blair.
Hey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!
www.loyaltoliberty.com
STANDARDS & PRACTICES...
March 18, 2009 - 15:24 ET by danybhoyLow standards? If it was not for low standards, MSNBC would NOT have any standards. Look, there is no reporting on that channel, they call their network, "...The Place For Politics", that is true. They are no longer a news operation, it's all about politics, the extreme far left socialist view is the order of the day.
MSNBC is a hybrid of the liberal & corrupt MSM, progress lefty talk radio, & the hard left kook progressive blogs. They have a cult following & have thrown away the concept of being an objective legit news operation. They are what they are, the people are seeing that, & their ratings prove that out.
"The Fairness Doctrine = Jim Crow laws for Conservatives". Jim Quinn from "Quinn & Rose"
Then they wonder why the
March 18, 2009 - 17:14 ET by r22weissThen they wonder why the ratings are so low.
Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for March 16, 2009
P2+ Total Day
FNC – 1,288,000 viewers
CNN – 616,000 viewers
MSNBC –486,000 viewers
CNBC – 272,000 viewers
HLN – 321,000 viewers
P2+ Prime Time
FNC – 2,541,000 viewers
CNN—985,000 viewers
MSNBC –1,153,000 viewers
CNBC – 148,000 viewers
HLN – 805,000 viewers
http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/top-news/cable-news
Sorry to learn the
March 18, 2009 - 14:35 ET by SickofLibsSorry to learn the "Executive" Assassination Wing has been disbanded, as I believe there is still important work to be done, starting at AIG.
Indeed
March 18, 2009 - 15:04 ET byNow THAT's a plan I can get behind. Filthy greedy b@$!ards.
They are meaningless
March 18, 2009 - 14:36 ET by Franklins_LockeThis type of attack is ridiculous and a disgrace for a once great news organization. But...who really cares...no one watches this old sportscaster anyway. http://franklinslocke.blogspot.com/
Why libs hate Limbaugh.
March 18, 2009 - 14:56 ET by BlueCat57It's the seriousness of the allegation, not the truth that matters. (I'm not sure those are Limbaugh's exact words, but close.)
Why does your wife/husband get on your nerves? Because they always seem to be right.
The libs hate Limbaugh because he is right. Libs hate the "rightness." They don't believe in absolutes and hate anyone that does. Truth doesn't matter since there is no such thing in their relativistic worldview.
Sorry, just venting. My fingers just kept on going. Couldn't help it. Been listening to Barney Frank cuts on Limbaugh. I can't believe those idiots can find the Capitol building on a daily basis, much less get reelected. God, Americans must be as stupid as our standardized test scores show. I'll just step away from the keyboard now.
Blue Cat
March 19, 2009 - 08:57 ET by sherylsimsLOVED the rant! And I agree wholeheartedly!
Mysterious Deaths
March 18, 2009 - 15:16 ET by UtherpendCorrect me if I am wrong but didn't more people die under mysterious circumstances in the Clinton White House than under any other presidents in the last century?? I believe the total is 3 in the white house with a few others outside the White House as well.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you."
~I believe the final count
March 18, 2009 - 15:27 ET by choselife3xWas 93.
Here's a few.
Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism
LOL Yeah..
March 20, 2009 - 18:25 ET byAccording to the right wing slime maching Bill and Hillary killed everyone in government who ever died, starting with Lincoln.
The accusations have nothing to do with the fact that Schiaffe was paying people for any sick stories they could come up with about the Clintons.
People who believe that also believe the governemt is holding aliens at Area 51.
Actually the alien's are
March 20, 2009 - 20:14 ET by BlazerActually the alien's are cryogenically frozen at Wright Patterson AFB in Ohio, everybody know's that. : )
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
That's what I'm sayin'!!!
March 20, 2009 - 21:24 ET byThese idiots think they're at Area 51!@#
Geesh...
I believe you're wrong...
March 20, 2009 - 18:35 ET by JerI believe you're wrong.
The "count" was reviewed about once a week by Boortz and/or other Clinton-hating talk jocks. The last time I heard it, the list was well over a hundred. All of it pure garbage of course.
Jer
Indeed
March 20, 2009 - 19:35 ET byGarbage
~12 former bodyguards dead
March 20, 2009 - 20:01 ET by choselife3xSeems like a lot.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
You obviously haven't seen
March 20, 2009 - 20:15 ET by JerYou obviously haven't seen Bill and Hill in action with a couple of AK-47s. They could take out an entire CPAC room before the audience finished with Rush's standing O.
Jer
~I thought Hillary was
March 20, 2009 - 20:20 ET by choselife3xCrushing them with her thighs.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
I think the unfortunate victims
March 20, 2009 - 20:36 ET by JerI think the unfortunate victims are given a choice between that or voluntarily diving into a large tub of boiling chicken fat. So far, after witnessing the one poor soul who opted for the Hillary thigh-crush, there have been no more takers.
Jer
~Explains the sudden jump
March 20, 2009 - 20:47 ET by choselife3xIn demand for chicken fat......
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
§ Chose...Chicken FAT?!?!?
March 20, 2009 - 21:05 ET by TheSterIf that has TRANS-FATS...
....That would be ILLEGAL!!!
Ster.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Hill has her own forms of torture...
March 20, 2009 - 21:27 ET byI've seen that nutcracker!!!
That's too messy Jer.
March 20, 2009 - 20:20 ET by BlazerThat's too messy Jer. Why do the wetwork when Billie boy could just send his pardoned friend's Bill Ayres and Bernie Dohrn in to plant a bomb. They could all be having cocktail's together at Ruby Tuesday's when it went off.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Dead Clinton associates
March 20, 2009 - 20:14 ET by R D HelmThey wuzz a whole bunch of 'em:
http://members.tripo...
-Dave
This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.
§ DAVE!!! THANX for the Clinton DEATH Site!!
March 20, 2009 - 20:34 ET by TheSterI Remember seeing this DEATH LIST a long time ago.
AT LEAST Bush didn't KILL those that were a THREAT to him!!
Awwww...Lefty Trolls here....BRING IT ON!!!
Ster.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Right on Ster, Bush had
March 20, 2009 - 20:40 ET by BlazerRight on Ster, Bush had everyone killed that was a threat to us. The Clinton's had everyone killed that was a threat to their legacy. one has to wonder what biil's intention's were for not taking out Bin laden, when we had him right in the crosshair's of a Barret .50 cal.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Good evening Blaze
March 20, 2009 - 20:54 ET by cocodrieIf the Clintons had them killed, wouldn't Ron Brown or Vince Foster come forward to lodge a formal complaint by now?
There can't be an investigation without the murder victim personally appearing to testify.
Jesus Loves You
§ COCO!!! Howdy!!! Correct.
March 20, 2009 - 21:02 ET by TheSterUmmmm...
"Bring out your DEAD....Bring out your DEAD!!!"
Ummmm...
"I'm NOT DEAD YET!!! I'm feeling QUITE BETTER!!!"
Ster.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Good evening Ster
March 20, 2009 - 21:12 ET by cocodrieYou're right, the killer rabbit probably did the dirty deeds.
Jesus Loves You
I dunno, but he
March 20, 2009 - 21:07 ET by BlazerI dunno, but he certainly seemed to be overcome with grief at Ron Brown's funeral, didn't he.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
The Clinton Death Squad
March 20, 2009 - 20:47 ET by JerI can't understand why the Republicans didn't question Hillary about all those people she and Bill rubbed out. But then I guess mass murder just doesn't quite have the same pizzazz as, say, Geithner's tax returns.
Jer
I dunno Jer, maybe
March 20, 2009 - 20:51 ET by BlazerI dunno Jer, maybe because they were rubbing out their friend's. Any friend of the Clinton's is no friend of mine, doesn't make it right regaurdless.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
You know...one of the
March 20, 2009 - 21:07 ET by JerYou know...one of the reasons I have always genuinely admired Bush is because of the graciousness he has consistently extended to the Clinton family. But, if the Clintons are indeed murderers, then I have misjudged Bush and have lost all respect for him--or maybe he really is just plain stupid. Showing courtesy and generosity to killers is neither classy nor smart.
Jer
Showing courtesy and
March 20, 2009 - 21:22 ET by BlazerShowing courtesy and generosity to killers is neither classy nor smart.
Maybe in true RINO fashion he was just reaching across the aisle Jer. i mean Clinton was a former president. Obama however is courting real murderers like the moderate Taliban and extending gratitudes and pleasantries to every third world regime, despot and dictator he can .
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
What Obama is proposing
March 20, 2009 - 22:22 ET by JerWhat Obama is proposing [carefully designed overtures to certain adversarial factions] is precisely what a number of senior field commanders in Afghanistan have recommended, and what the Bush administration employed--in conjunction with a military surge--to turn the tide in Iraq. The same strategy may work in Afghanistan. It may not. But it might be worth a try.
Jer
I have always maintained...
March 18, 2009 - 16:14 ET by jawebster1that if you want to know what Liberals are up to, all you have to do is listen to what they accuse others of doing. Of course that is like saying the Sun will come up tomorrow. There is only one reason and one reason alone Shuster condemns Fox for doing what he and his slop mates do each and every day. He wants attention. Unfortunately he gets it here. Not flattering attention, but attention, nevertheless. Jim Webster
Oh this is too rich...the
March 18, 2009 - 16:23 ET by bigtimerOh this is too rich...the left in the msm of all venues banned Hersh for the most part, in fact vilified him when he wrote his best selling book about the Kennedy's/Monroe/Camelot...so funny how they have taken back up with this shyster when it suits their agenda...
...and mentioning him and John Dean are enough to get me LMAO!
Enough already/
It's easy for MSNBC
March 18, 2009 - 18:03 ET by pbthinkerIt's easy to talk about low standards when you have no standards.
Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.
Could someone PLEASE...
March 18, 2009 - 18:23 ET by Lord Erond....find out which lunatic asylum Bathtub Boy escaped from and PUT HIM BACK THERE?!?!?!?!? Make a better, tighter fitting straight jacket or something!!!!!
"To sin by silence when we should protest, makes cowards of men" -Ella Wheeler Wilcox
We need Keithamphetamine
March 19, 2009 - 02:37 ET by AgentAmerican...for comic relief at Newsbusters!
2010: A GOP Hill
Hey pi,
March 19, 2009 - 18:25 ET by UpNorthI thought you were going to check the website for the Special Operations Command and get back to us? You know, the parent organization for the Joint Special Operations Command, aka, JSOC. This unit has been engaged in, wait for it now, the hunt for war criminals in the former Yugoslavia, among other things. The web site below will even let you know which units are assigned to JSOC, and this, as must be obvious to all but Seymour Hersh, is also not "secret" or "clandestine".
http://www.specialop...
Huh???
March 21, 2009 - 23:13 ET bySorry, I have no idea what you're talking about. Did I say was going to check that website? I'm not trying to be difficult, I honestly have no idea what you're referring to. I've posted so many comments here...
umm, interesting, Olbermann
March 20, 2009 - 20:26 ET by JAJTumm, interesting, Olbermann brings this up on the same day or week Gibbs mocks Cheney "Cabal" (i may have it wrong, but i am enjoying an apple martini and can't remeber the exact words gibbs said). more evidence of the WH and MSM working together..