Update (13:40 EDT-- see bottom of post for reaction from Faith in Public Life official)
Last June, CNN allied with the left-wing religious group Sojourners for a 60-minute "debate" on faith for Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John Edwards. Falling neatly in line with the Democratic aspiration to appear more friendly to religious voters, each candidate was interviewed separately for about 15 minutes on their faith. How soft was it? Obama was never asked anything about his minister, Jeremiah Wright. CNN's Soledad O’Brien claimed at the show’s end that it would eventually be balanced out with “a similar forum on faith and politics with Republican candidates.” It never happened.
TVNewser reports that CNN is now doing it again, granting time to Democrats in association with another left-wing religious group called Faith in Public Life. In a 90-minute program aired from Messiah College in Grantham, Pennsylvania, Clinton and Obama will each get about 40 minutes in separate interviews with CNN's Campbell Brown and Newsweek editor Jon Meacham. So what about 40 minutes for John McCain?
CNN merely stated that he declined the invitation -- to appear at a forum sponsored by a group that thinks the Religious Right is unfairly "dominating public discourse" with talk about abortion and homosexuality and "ignoring issues of justice and the common good." If CNN weren't acting like an adjunct of one party, it would arrange a time and a place for McCain to expound on the social and religious issues as well, without expecting him to attend events sponsored by religious groups who favor his defeat.
According to a CNN press release,the Compassion Forum will feature "wide-ranging and probing discussions of policies related to pressing moral issues...including poverty, global AIDS, climate change and human rights."
The board chairman of Faith in Public Life is Unitarian Universalist minister Meg Riley. In a recent blog post, she praised Obama's speech on race and decried the controversy over Reverend Wright, the prophet:
I remember years ago when an African American friend shared an encounter with a white colleague which she experienced as racist. I replied with some convoluted explanation of how she might have misunderstood the colleague. “Oh, stop being so white!” she exclaimed with annoyance. “Could you just listen to me?”
Listening turns out to be incredibly hard for many of us who are white to do—to just listen. The derision with which Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s prophetic words are greeted reflects that very unwillingness. “No,” we respond too often, albeit unconsciously. “We won’t listen, because we don’t have to. We’ve got the pundits, the judges, the rulers on our side. Why listen to you?”
If we’re lucky, we can learn to let the voice of faith speak up in response to the impulse of privilege, and say, “It’s hard, but yes, I want to listen. I need to listen. I can’t be whole unless I listen.” And after we listen, I hope that we will be able to then say, “I need to speak up and be an ally. I want to speak up and be an ally. I can’t be whole unless I am an ally.”
This suggests that the Wright questions will not be encouraged. Watching CNN help the Democrats advertise themselves again as faith-friendly makes one wonder if CNN isn't looking in the mirror, saying in devotion to the Democrats, "I can't be whole unless I am an ally."
Update (Ken Shepherd | 13:40 EDT): Dan Nejfelt, a Communications Associate with Faith in Public Life contacted us to explain that his organization "made every effort to encourage Senator McCain to attend, and the invitation remains open." The Compassion Forum, Nejfelt added "transcends political ideology, and we hope for bipartisan participation."
Mr. Nejfelt's e-mail:
Dear editors and Mr. Graham:
I read your blog post this morning about Faith In Public Life's Compassion Forum at Messiah College. I appreciate that you saw fit to comment on the forum and wish to bring to your attention information that may change your impression of it.
Although only the Democratic candidates have thus far accepted the invitation, we made every effort to encourage Senator McCain to attend, and the invitation remains open.
The bipartisan spirit of The Compassion Forum is evident in the support The Compassion Forum from across the ideological spectrum. Sen. Rick Santorum and Gov. Mike Huckabee have given statements of support for the event. The Compassion Forum Board includes prominent conservative religious leaders such as Southern Baptist Convention president Dr. Frank Page; Dr.
Paul Corts, President of the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities (and former Bush administration Justice Department official); and Palmetto Family Council president Dr. Oran Smith.The Compassion Forum also discusses a bipartisan agenda. Global warming, HIV/AIDS relief, poverty, torture and abortion are all issues with which conservative and progressive religious people alike are deeply engaged, and all will be discussed at the forum.
I hope you'll see fit to post this clarification of The Compassion Forum.
It transcends political ideology, and we hope for bipartisan participation.Best,
Dan Nejfelt
Communications Associate
Faith In Public Life
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center
















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Fat Appalachian lesbian in a marginal religion
April 8, 2008 - 08:41 ET by Tim GrahamHere's another bite from the Riley blog post:
→ Tim Graham
April 8, 2008 - 08:50 ET by Cool ArrowThere are probably seven Black columnists I read regularly.
In case you missed it, please read Star Parker's take last week.
Excellent article.
♣ a seal
The 'correct' answer might
April 8, 2008 - 09:08 ET by NL207The 'correct' answer might have been, "I did not answer the question because I regarded the question itself as a form of racial harassment". You can bet that would have sent that bigot into a froth.
Uh Meg.
April 8, 2008 - 08:58 ET by JWFWe listen all the time. It's just you. We don't want to listen to your hippy big yaw yappin'. Why don't you form a drum circle somewhere and listen to the trees. Someone somewhere just cut one down. Oh look, a flower cried.
While i am at it...
April 8, 2008 - 09:07 ET by JWF"pressing moral issues...including poverty, global AIDS, climate change and human rights"
poverty: free trade and free markets are bringing millions of people out of poverty every year.
global AIDS: people all over the globe are realizing that if they stop engaging in blood to blood actvities, that they will not get AIDS, except of course if you touch a hippy, you still get AIDS from that.
climate change: SPRING is here! Winter is finally over!
human rights: Democracy is on the march all over this planet. Thanks to that evil chimpy hitler mcMonkey nonhippy Bush, democracy is being introduced to more people than ever!
at least the left is trying
April 8, 2008 - 12:14 ET by TruthMongerat least the left is trying i suppose
they should be careful what they wish for if they want to start talking about Jesus and such:)
they usually find that out pretty quick once the discussion gets going, i find
Sorry TM they are "trying" to change the definition
April 8, 2008 - 13:57 ET by exLibJust like liberals are changing definitions of marriage and gender roles, they are constantly try to change the definition of what a Christian is and does.
I hear allot from my relatives in Germany that one big problem they supposedly have with Bush is that he claims to be a Christian but started a war. Europe is so secular, less than 5% of the whole country attends church, yet they are "experts" at what a Christian is supposed to be/do?
so let them try to change
April 8, 2008 - 14:53 ET by TruthMongerso let them try to change God
it's fun to watch IMHO:)
Bush didn't start the war on terrorism, but if he had the time (and backing from ALL Americans) he would certianly finish it
P.S. German Christians
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
I never knew the extent
April 8, 2008 - 23:07 ET by sam.i.amTM,
That link was eye-opening. No. . . eye-popping!
Agreed. "Never murder
April 8, 2008 - 23:13 ET by bigtimerAgreed.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Just kidding
April 8, 2008 - 09:31 ET by VonuSuch passion devoted to listening! I wonder if they still hold this passion for listening if someone from the right speaks.
Struggling to be white
April 8, 2008 - 09:36 ET by KC Mulville“It is time for those of us who are white to struggle with the question.” No it isn’t. Nobody really cares what white people think about being white, especially white people. It’s simply an attempt to pretend to be black for a few minutes, and to compliment yourself on you own empathy. Besides, what gets lost in all this is the power of each ethnic group. I happen to be Irish, and I love the Irish culture. I’m very proud of it. It’s purely tribal, but that’s OK. Many of my friends growing up are Italian, and they love their culture and they’re very proud of it. Same for my Jewish friends and Polish friends, and so on. Of these groups, we’re all lumped together as white, but the culture is different for each. For blacks, it’s different. Slavery obliterated much of their tribal heritage, and they were treated as simply black. Among most cultures, that’s the anomaly, not the norm.
It reveals an ignorance of one’s own ethnic heritage to assume that the anomaly of the black experience should be the norm of white experience. Whites don’t think of themselves as white – we think of ourselves as Irish or Italian or whatever, if we consider the distinction at all. Whiteness doesn’t enter into it. To try to force a supposed ‘white consciousness’ is simply to destroy the integrity of each ethnic culture. And for what? To pretend to be black? I wouldn’t insult my black friends so shallowly.
Debate talking points...
April 8, 2008 - 09:39 ET by Mr. TerryHere are a few talking points that I'd like to hear asked of our illustrious, pious, self-righteous cadidates (since they brought it up themselves, that is):
These are just a couple of the questions I'd like to hear both Obama and Hillary answer. Since they brought it up and are trying to look balanced.
Unitarian Universalist minister Meg Riley
April 8, 2008 - 09:41 ET by mattmJust like the God Hates Fags guy, and Reverend Wrong, this so-called 'minister' is purveyor of a false gospel.
We were warned about these kinds of people...
"For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock." - Acts 20:29
This entire program should be concidered a donation-in-kind
April 8, 2008 - 10:18 ET by c5thenBy the FEC.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
GMTA, c5! I was going to
April 8, 2008 - 10:38 ET by motherbeltGMTA, c5! I was going to use my stock answer: Just another in-kind contribution to the (insert Dem name) campaign from (insert network or show). They are so transparent and don't even care. They tell themselves that they are "fair."
hillary clinton
April 8, 2008 - 13:42 ET by frank tellsI WANT TO FIX HILLARY CLINTON FOR STAYING WITH BILL WHEN SHE SHOULD HAVE DIVORCED HIM OVER: 1. HIS ANTIMASTURBATION 2. HIS CHEATING ADULTERY ALSO IM AGAINST HER NOT LISTENING TO ME ABOUT VOTING AGAINST THE ANTI POKER BILL (PHONE CALLS, LETTERS) AND RECEIVING FUNDING FROM HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY OVERCHARGING AND AGE DISCRIMINATING. I ALSO BELIEVE LIKE JOE LIEBERMAN THAT BILL CLINTON SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED AFTER ILLEGALLY CHEATING ON HIS WIFE.
Relgious Left
April 8, 2008 - 13:49 ET by exLib2 Many Problems:
1 - women ministers are prohibited from preaching the gospel in church in mixed company. I Cor 14.34
2 - These people tolerate sin and therefore are not recognized by God as a legitimate Church. (Rev 2:20)
3 - Works are seconday, and in some cases are considered worthless when the correct life is not lived (Gal 5:19-21)
Like I have always said, if you are a Christian or a church gettng lots of face time and praise on TV, you aren't living like Jesus.
so exLib, Am I to
April 8, 2008 - 13:53 ET by Leonso exLib,
Am I to understand you think it's wrong to have female preachers?
Seems a bit outdated wouldn't you say?
Why should a woman be any less effective at preaching the gospels than a man?
Yo Leon
April 8, 2008 - 14:00 ET by exLibYou make up your own rules and religion and see how far you can go, hey you never know, I guess.
As for me, the Bible is clear and the core of it is unchanging.
It's not about outdated, that comment is outdated.
It's also not about "effectiveness" but about God's roles and how we are designed. I believe I've got the owner's manual and it works very well when you follow it.
If a woman preaches to other women, cool! The Bible is clear and I gave the reference, that it's not cool for a woman to preach in Church to men.
Apparently it sucks to be a
April 8, 2008 - 14:05 ET by LeonApparently it sucks to be a woman in all religions, eh?
Women can't preach to men? That's a laughable.
I have two aunts who are Presbyterian ministers and they do a great job. Loved by their congregation and the community.
It's shame you'd used a 2,000 year old document written when women were considered inferior to judge the women of today.
leon,
April 8, 2008 - 16:38 ET by tracheostomyLeon: "I have two aunts who are Presbyterian ministers and they do a great job. Loved by their congregation and the community."
I know you deliberately inserted "Presbyterian" for effect. I'm gambling this is UPUSA or similar. I was just wondering if you knew they went liberal in the 60s and felt the Westminster Confession needed some "fixing." My gut instinct is that when I see a female shepherd leading the flock, then that is an indicator (or symptom) of several major doctrinal errors that are still hidden away.
Of course, there are many reasons for not having women pastors that we don't want to deal with because they collectively scare us.
Does this mean women are forbidden to prophesy, teach, or preach to anyone, anywhere, and at any time? NO. The only exception is when the church comes together for the worship service. Anna spoke truth (Luke 1:36-38). Mary spoke it in the Magnificat (Luke 1:46-55). Philip's daughters prophesied (Acts 2). Now more than ever, women are urged to proclaim the truth of God's word!* The church was meant to be more than the "give God once a week" community we have today.
Why then are females not permitted to pastor the church? Think about it.
- The postmodern "superwoman" mentality. Conservative and liberal feminists alike are only beginning to understand that they cannot attempt to multitask and juggle it all without losses somewhere. You are then going to tell me that a woman pastor can nurture unpredictable family demands, and then at the same time answer the unpredictable ministry needs of the church? What's a woman to do when she's got two kids down with a fever and then has to go on a death watch for an elder with cancer at her local hospital?
- This weakens marriages. It also hangs a tough choice around the neck of a woman that I know most male pastors cannot even handle. This then would cause St. Paul to permit a bunch of age and biological qualifiers into scripture in order to permit women to literally "lay down their lives" for the church and take up a role of leadership that often puts family in the backseat. So then either you cannot be a mother or else you cannot be a mother. It's a double-edged sword for a woman.
- Our society is based on individuality and not relationships. A relationship-based society will work out roles based on ability, God-given talent, and need. So then we can have women pastors only as long as they are post-menopausal? Absurd.
I myself am stunned the more I realize the number of relationships we sacrifice to satisfy our sense of hyper-individualism. The Biblical model doesn't work very well with an individual-centered culture. So either compromise scripture or compromise the culture. Take your pick.
- Who will be among us to step up during the worship and make themselves an object lesson of the submission of Christ? Everyone wants power, but who wants to be like Christ? Mary of Bethany or Martha of Bethany? "Only one thing is needful. Mary has chosen the best part, and it will not be taken away from her." The female pastor is clearly Martha multiplied among many families within the church.
- Some women in the churches at Ephesus and Corinth were more concerned with their rights than their responsibilities to God and the ecclesia. What about us? Is our focus on getting or giving? Jesus came not to be served, but to serve. Is this about ministering to the needs of others, or looking out for your own rights? Doesn't Philippians 2:3-4 matter?
There is a valid case to be made for the times when silence speaks louder than words.
-PJ
* Especially when the man loves to forfeit his given role. Adam's abdication was the grossest of the two sins in the garden that day. The sexual revolution was our ticket out and we're more than happy to indulge the woman's pride in order to keep the charade going.
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Care to posit the role of
April 8, 2008 - 16:41 ET by BuffNBoneCare to posit the role of women today had it not been for the influence of Christianity?
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
Why didn't I think of that?
April 8, 2008 - 16:57 ET by tracheostomy*applauding BNB*
"Brevity is the soul of wit," indeed! =)
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07