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Kudos and our sympathy to Michael Calderone at the Politico, who has to listen to a lot of really bad radio to get these quotes.
First it was Senators Debbie Stabenow and Tom Harkin, now Clinton.
Clinton was appearing on the liberal Mario Solis Marich (who? Exactly) radio show (audio here). The censorship discussion went as follows:
MARIO SOLIS MARICH: I want to ask you just one last thing, based on, you know, obviously, your eight years of experience in the White House, which very few people on the planet get to have. With the fact that shows like this, like the one you're on, is (sic), my show, is so outgunned on the right wing – compared to the right wing that has, like, nine out of ten shows, do you think that it's time – some members of congress are calling for hearings on the Fairness Doctrine – do you believe it's time for some type of enforced media accountability?
FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON: Well you either ought to have the Fairness Doctrine, or we ought to have more balance on the other side. Because, essentially, there's always been a lot of big money to support the right wing talk shows, and let's face it, Rush Limbaugh is fairly entertaining, even when he's saying things that I think are ridiculous.
MARICH: Right [laughing].
CLINTON: So, I think that the American people know now that we're in a very serious time, when we all need to be questioned. The President, I'm sure, would be the first to admit that none of us are right all the time, and everything should be debated.
MARICH: Yeah.
CLINTON: But basically, with the future of the country hanging in the balance, we shouldn't be playing petty politics or just, you know, going for entertainment. So what I think we need to do is, either have more balance in the programs, or have some opportunity for people to offer countervailing opinions. And when the fairness doctrine was done away with, I was not in favor of doing away with it. And at the time, frankly, most people thought that there were more liberal than conservative voices. But, I never minded having someone be heard who disagreed with me. But if you only have one side, like this blatant drumbeat against the stimulus program, this doesn't reflect the economic reality that we're facing.
MARICH: Right.CLINTON: And it's an example of why we need more debate, not less. And if you only hear one side on the radio, that's pretty tough.
MARICH: It is very tough, sir.
The former President lets the cat out the bag, albeit inadvertantly. He first says "...there's always been a lot of big money to support the right wing talk shows." Yes, El Presidente, they're called advertisers, and they give big money to support the right wing talk shows because they get a return on their investment. The same can not be said for liberal shows like the one on which you were appearing yesterday.
Clinton follows that up with "and let's face it, Rush Limbaugh is fairly entertaining." Exactly. Which leads he and his fellow entertaining Conservative cohorts to have listeners, which in turn leads to the big money they receive for plying their on-air wares.
Liberal radio, having repeatedly failed to move the ratings needle, remains bereft of the listeners that lead to the big money Clinton at once bemoans and envies. And of course he overlooks the hundreds of millions of dollars that have been sunk into liberal Air America, which has already filed for bankruptcy once, is on the verge of doing so again and may as well file for non-profit status at this point.
But since when have liberals understood the free market, let alone free speech?
—Seton Motley is Director of Communications for the Media Research Center and Contributing Editor for NewsBusters.org.





















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I doubt he really cares all that much
February 13, 2009 - 12:07 ET by thebutlerdiditabout the FD. He might have wanted to seem agreeable and hope for a sound bite. Since most people don't listen to this show, I'm guessing, then I'd say he might have been trying to ingratiate himself to Ms. Liberal Talkshow Chick. Does anyone know what she looks like? Oh, what am I saying? That wouldn't matter to him. Silly me!
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
In Fairness
February 13, 2009 - 12:18 ET by sevans1956"Liberal radio, having repeatedly failed to move the ratings needle, remains bereft of the listeners that lead to the big money Clinton at once bemoans and envies."
In Fairness, that is not necessarily true. CBS Radio, AP Radio and not to mention CNN and MSNBC on XM Radio are all very liberal and they sell advertising pretty well.
I agree with Bill Clinton (Shock):
"So what I think we need to do is, either have more balance in the programs, or have some opportunity for people to offer countervailing opinions"
If we bring back the Fairness Doctrine, we will never have BALANCE in news programs. I really do not want unbiased reporting, but please give me balanced reporting that provides the other side of the issue.
I don't know where Clinton
February 13, 2009 - 13:47 ET by motherbeltI don't know where Clinton got the idea that there's always been a lot of big money to support
the right wing talk shows....
Does he even think about what he is saying?
He talks as if there is an ongoing fundraising campaign to support shows like Limabaugh and Hannity.
There is no "big money" supporting talk radio...at least not on the right. Conservative talk radio makes money the old-fashioned way: they earn it selling advertising time. It's liberals who needed donations and endowments to start Air America and keep it afloat.
That's our Bill; still trying to be relevant.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Good evening MB
February 13, 2009 - 14:04 ET by cocodrieAs you say, the big money for conservative talk radio is provided by the massive support of the sponsors by listeners.
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Free market success is a mortal sin in the liberal universe and must be eradicated. The best way to destroy success is by government regulation.
Since Clinton has no credentials in economics maybe he should advise us on morals.
Jesus Loves You
Since Clinton has no
February 13, 2009 - 14:30 ET by motherbeltSince Clinton has no credentials in economics maybe he should advise us on morals.
LOL!
Seriously, I just wish His Royal Irrelevance would just go away. I don't even care if he goes away mad.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
You're right about him
February 13, 2009 - 14:36 ET by cocodrieYou're right about wanting him to go away but he won't. The money's too good and he doesn't have to go home to the Hildebeast.
Jesus Loves You
"I don't know where Clinton
February 13, 2009 - 16:20 ET by QueenMum"I don't know where Clinton got the idea that there's always been a lot of big money to support the right wing talk shows...."
Say what you want about B.C., but he's smarter than that. He's just carrying water for Obama as Hillary has ordered him to do. Seriously, in his lawyerly way, he's correct. There has always been a lot of big money to support the talk shows - it's called advertising. But the message is all about evil corporations. You know, those people with all the money who take from poor to support the rich?
Why are the liberals so scared?
February 13, 2009 - 12:25 ET by KHalpernLiberals already have won control of the White House and the Congress, so it would seem that their message is getting out there loud and clear. So one must ask, what are they afraid of now?
What are liberals afraid of?
February 13, 2009 - 16:21 ET by QueenMumThey're afraid that the rest of Americans will somehow perish in their ignorance if not properly indoctrinated by those who are already "in the light".
How do they decide what's
February 13, 2009 - 12:30 ET by ladderlessHow do they decide what's balanced? How out of balance does something have to be before action must be taken? What's the scale to be used?
Does this mean that NBC (and the others) needs to make a change?
As rush has said, he IS equal time. I'd like to see more of a balance in the main stream media.
Bill Clinton--retired to irrelevence
February 13, 2009 - 12:41 ET by Andrew H.So right--why stop with radio? If the so-called fairness doctrine is put back into place, then nbc,cbs, abc and cnn will have to fire half their staff to hire conservatives, right?
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
Real proud
February 13, 2009 - 12:42 ET by cvgbuckeyeSo here you are democrats. Your hero, the man who occupied the White House for 8 years, does not believe in free speech.
What a party!
Bill Clinton's opinion
February 13, 2009 - 12:50 ET by merlin61Be careful what you wish for Mr. Bill - it might just
bite you, you know where.! This man is an
arrogant money grubber, and a disgrace to this
country.
Which points out a truth
February 13, 2009 - 13:05 ET by Seftonon the actually agenda of the Left.
If in fact most of the liberal voting block falls in line with this "Fairness Doctrine" proposal, then obviously it's not democracy they want for our country anymore.
Anybody elese
February 13, 2009 - 13:00 ET by 10ksnookerSee the pattern here?
Like communist rebels, the
February 13, 2009 - 13:09 ET by Chris NormanLike communist rebels, the Democrats, now they have seized control, are acting swiftly to consolidate power. Creepy, isn't it? This is less like the aftermath of an election and more like the aftermath of a coup.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
~ Chris
February 13, 2009 - 13:20 ET by SeftonExactly.
They have claimed "we won", they have the power now and it's time to institute the "change" they've been wanting for years.
It's a very disturbing time for our country.
Does anyone think that the FD will be extended to all forms
February 13, 2009 - 13:15 ET by katiejaneof media - the TV stations, the newspapers, the magazines? Nah - me neither.
What part of "if there was an audience for hateful liberal radio programming some stations would provide it" is that hard to understand?
kaitiejane,
February 13, 2009 - 13:20 ET by R D HelmThe Censorship Doctrine is aimed only at the private radio market.
It isn't even going to apply to NPR.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
If they ever force this on us....
February 13, 2009 - 13:15 ET by szampIf they ever succeed in forcing this on us, I hope it applies to the MSM, MTV, comedy central, PBS, all Hollywood productions, award shows, etc... Why just radio needs to be balanced? It would be nice to cut John Stewat's show in half just to show comedy from the conservative point of view.
I hope they don't succeed anyway.
It probably won't
February 13, 2009 - 13:31 ET by sdanTalk radio is one of the few places they don't have complete control of. If they succeed then the next thing they will be after are websites like this one. Remember it is only ok to dissent if there is a D behind your name.
This is looking more and more like it is a coordinated effort
February 13, 2009 - 13:18 ET by R D HelmIt seems that every day, a different dim comes out in suppoort of the Censorship Doctrine.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Well...
February 13, 2009 - 13:27 ET by ThePatriotI think the libs understand quite well what a loosely organized smear campaign looks like because they amBushed #43 all the time. Because their agenda is backed by a wishy-washy combination of hippienomics and zen socialism, they're afraid that right thinking people repeatedly poking holes in their arguments will cause the whole thing to unravel.
I would like to think, at
February 13, 2009 - 13:44 ET by Chris NormanI would like to think, at least hope, that if reinstitution is attempted, we will all march on Washington DC. This won't be just another bill we don't like, but the beginning of the end of our two party democracy. We used to have a little of our view played in the media, but today, with a hyper-biased media, we would have no other way for our message to get out. If they are successful in squashing talk radio, can the internet be far behind?
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
"You say you want a revoulution"
February 13, 2009 - 16:28 ET by dark_ds"You say you want a revoulution"
Water Boarding is illegal but Koolaid Boarding is still an option... dark_ds said that
Such a grubby, disgusting,
February 14, 2009 - 06:36 ET by RR GOPSuch a grubby, disgusting, pervert of a man. And he has the title of President of the United States attached to his name...forever.
And we expected anything positive in our future back then?
How, exactly, does that work?
One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.