On MSNBC: Leftist Writer Smears Tim Tebow as Wanting to Set Gays Back '30 or 40 Years'
MSNBC can't even keep liberal politics out of sports. Nation sports editor Dave Zirin appeared on the cable network, Wednesday, to hyperventilate over the announcement that Tim Tebow has been traded to the New York Jets. Zirin berated, "...There are a lot of LGBT people that live in New York City who are also football fans and they might want to know why the new, possibly, starting quarterback for the New York Jets wants them to move backwards 30 or 40 years."
Why does Tebow want to set gays back 40 years? Because he once did a very mild pro-life commercial for Focus on the Family? Completely going off on a tangent, Zirin whined, "Now, I don't want to shock you, Tamron, but there are a lot of women in New York who use birth control." [See video below. MP3 audio here.]
This was too much even for MSNBC anchor Tamron Hall. "Is that fair," she asked. Hall pointed out: "...You can have drug addicts and everything else play in this town and people beat up their spouses and play in [New York]."
Zirin, who has repeatedly appeared on MSNBC to trash Tebow, religious figures and conservatives, stuck by his obvious disgust for the quarterback: "I am hoping Tim Tebow gets asked some certain things. Because, he said he wants a career in politics after football. That, to me, makes it all fair game."
A transcript of the News Nation segment, which aired at 2:52pm EDT, follows:
TAMRON HALL: The Jets confirmed within the last hour that Tim Tebow is headed to New York City. It comes one day after- technically New Jersey, isn't it quarterback Peyton Manning took his spot at the Denver Broncos. We have also learned the NFL suspended Sean Payton and others for their involvement in the bounty program. Our friend Dave Zirin is writing for the Edge of Sports and he joins us live. I don't know which to start off with. So, I will start off with Broadway Tim, Broadway Tebow, whatever you want to call it. I read a couple tweets people are threatening to not have the season tickets with the Jets because of this and others are happy to see how it goes. What's your take?
DAVE ZIRIN: It is heart to be a Saint in the city. That's my first take. Yeah, a 35-year-old Bruce Springsteen reference, thank you. No, the thing about Tim Tebow coming to the Jets is Woody Johnson, the owner just upon a circus. He bought the 28th ranked quarterback in the NFL, who for some reason has a massive fan base that will be pressuring the team to start him every step of the way. And the Jets are doing this right after they gave a huge extension to the incumbent quarterback Mark Sanchez and that they signed a credible back-up, a guy named Drew Stanton from the Detroit Lions.
HALL: Yeah.
ZIRIN: I don't begin to understand the thought process of the New York Jets, except they maybe were looking at Rex Ryan and saying, you know what, this guy is not quite a buffoonish entertaining clown, we need to make this more buffoonish a situation. We need to make this more clownish and bring in Tim Tebow and have a full pledged reality program.
HALL: But how can you say they brought the circus into town? This is New York City. Every day is a circus The king the New York is Donald Trump for Pete's sake. This is New York. How can he bring the circus here?
ZIRIN: Exactly, because of who Tim Tebow is. I mean, it would be a circus if you let Rick Santorum loose in Las Vegas for a week and just kept a camera on him the whole time. I mean, Donald Trump in New York is ho-hum. He's practically a chameleon in New York. But with Tim Tebow you are talking about somebody who has a set of ideas, let's just say, that are different from the majority of New Yorkers. Now, I don't want to shock you, Tamron, but there are a lot of women in New York who use birth control. And I also don't want to shock you, but there are a lot of LGBT people that live in New York City who are also football fans and they might want to know why the new, possibly, starting quarterback for the New York Jets wants them to move backwards 30 or 40 years.
HALL: I want to get to the Saints, but I have to follow up on that. Is that fair, though?
ZIRIN: Oh, yeah.
HALL: I mean, I get it. He had the half time ad with his mother and talked about his faith and beliefs, but the reality is isn't it about what he does on the field?
ZIRIN: Of course. That's a part of it.
HALL: Because, I mean, you can have drug addicts and everything else play in this town and people beat up their spouses and play in this town.
ZIRIN: Yeah and they get their media scrutiny. Yet in Denver, a typical question from a local media member would look more like a foot massage than an actual tough question. I am hoping Tim Tebow gets asked some certain things. Because, he said he wants a career in politics after football. That, to me, makes it all fair game.
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Zirin is the Clown
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:01pm.
I'm sorry, New York Jets fans don't deserve The Tebow.
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You're being too gracious, Blonde
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:34pm.
This guy is inventing things merely so he can go ballistic on Tebow.
I'd also like to hear this idiot describe how "most New Yorkers think."
How about Mayor Bloomberg's administration (its Dept of Homeless Services) declaring that food donations to govt-run homeless shelters are no longer permissible. Is that how most New Yorkers think? How about banning salt from businesses that serve food? Is that what New Yorkers want?
Well, that's their mayor, the person who has at least some authority to impose that nonsense. Zirin should ask himself, "What would Tim Tebow do?
You're right, of course,
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:42pm.
You're right, of course, Gal
This guy is inventing things merely so he can go ballistic on Tebow.
He hates Tim for being an unabashed Christian, but that's not enough for him, he has to drag the whole city of New York into it!
Tebow has said exactly NADA about either birth control OR homosexuality. But you can bet your last dime, if Zirin has his way, he will be asked these things over and over again, especially since he expressed an interest in politics in oh, ten years or so. It's all "fair game" as Zirin says.
What a deplorable man.
MB
Submitted by Seashell on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:14pm.
I just hope if (or should I say when) Tebow is ask about such things as homosexuality or birth control that he will reply that he is not going to discuss any political topics but stick to football-period. Otherwise, they will tear him apart. If he refuses to play into their hands-they will stop asking such things eventually.
BTW-you are right-that guy is a deplorable man. No question.
LET them try
Submitted by chiefpayne on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 2:14pm.
to tear him apart! If you ASK someone their OPINION on something, you shouldn't be surprised if they GIVE you THEIR OPINION.
And if they ASK him his opinion on something like this, he should clarify the question by asking THEM if they are asking HIS OPINION on it. If they say yes, then go with it.
Opinions are like noses...everyone's got one.
Absolutely agree, B!!
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:20pm.
And I hope the classless Andrew Cromartie (We don't need Tebow) shows his @$$ again over this.
Oh, and Mr. Zirin, when did Tim Tebow speak out against birth control? I must have missed it.
He's not even Catholic!
You know this, mb.....
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:24pm.
But Cromartie is a Semi. It goes without saying that all of their players are without class. Which reminds me of a great saying I heard years ago.....
I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.
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LOL. that's a good one. But
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:32pm.
LOL. that's a good one.
But I like my mother's even better: No class, all @$$.
Non sequitor, but still...
Submitted by Ruths husband Ben on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:56pm.
I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet. Then I took his shoes. Hey, he wasn't gonna use them anyway!
You mean
Submitted by rockyracoon on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 8:32pm.
Cromartie went to, to quote you, "clown college" then?
Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.
Nobel Prize
Submitted by CJohnson on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:06pm.
If so he could be Nobel recipient for preventing the AIDS epidemic.
OOOOOMMMMGGGG!
Submitted by Seashell on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:24pm.
"Yet in Denver, a typical question from a local media member would look more like a foot massage than an actual tough question."
Are you kidding me????? Can there have been anymore softball questions ask of Obama during his primary w/Hillary AND during his presidency?
Give me a friggin' break!
This guy is almost as much of an a--hole as Elway.
Almost.
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:46pm.
LOL, Seashell. You, my friend, have made my day!
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Yeah, but there are some important distinctions here
Submitted by needle on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 6:45pm.
It is important for the MSM, when asking questions of Obama and Hillary, that they only ask saccharine-sweet tapioca-soft kiss-up questions; after all, they only affect our economy, the world economy, millions even billions of lives, nuclear proliferation, blackmail, and war, and peace, completely insignificant stuff like that. Why would the MSM ever want to ask tough questions – and possibly embarrass their soul mates – over trivial junk like that?
Whereas In Tebow’s case, questions need to be a tough as professional football itself because Tebow might try to interfere singlehandedly with Liberals’ agenda to continue to destroy the family as thoroughly outmoded primitive way for people to live and – horrors – even raise children. And of course, Tebow is a Christian, i.e., essentially a criminal.
I look forward to the time when a professional Muslim athlete bows to Meeca during a game. I can’t wait to see how the liberal media handles that, if at all. In fact, for all I know that sort of thing may be going all the time.
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.
Needle
Submitted by Seashell on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 6:58pm.
Well said.
Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stor
Submitted by Dryden01 on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:54pm.
I'm still waiting for the media to ask Bill what Monica has that Hillary hasn't got?
I certainly hope Tebow does
Submitted by Snappy on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:25pm.
I certainly hope Tebow does get asked some tough questions. From what I have seen so far, he wont back away from them and will answer straight. It would be refreshing to see that, and we will certainly see where the majorities lie.
liberals hate a christian who is not a hypocrit.
Submitted by c5then on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:31pm.
It reminds them of their own short comings.
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
I want Tebow's power,
Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:33pm.
if he can single-handedly set gays back 30 or 40 years (that would be pre-AIDS, right?) he must be a mighty powerful individual.
Make up your mind, idiot
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:43pm.
ZIRIN: Yeah and they get their media scrutiny. Yet in Denver, a typical question from a local media member would look more like a foot massage than an actual tough question. I am hoping Tim Tebow gets asked some certain things.
Here's where Zirin's inability to think trips him up
1) He indirectly warns that Tebow better not speak his mind in front of the NYC LGBTers.
2) But he wants Tebow to be asked "some certain things" in order to get him to speak out, presumably words that will offend LGBTers.
So, does Zirin want him to speak or not? He obviously doesn't know, and I doubt he's even heard Tebow speak much.
I'm all for tough and fair
Submitted by Ken Shepherd on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:57pm.
I'm all for tough and fair questions, but I think the vast majority of them, from sportswriters, should have to do with, you know, stuff pertaining to the game, his practice mid-week, etc. Why does an athletes politics or religion concern the sports press?
Come on, Ken....you know the answer
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 5:18pm.
Because, for the most part, they're (sports writers/babbleheads) liberal elitist idiots....that's why!
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Bear in mind …
Submitted by needle on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 6:50pm.
…one needs certain qualifications to be a sports journalist…
Qualifications like ideological purity.
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.
The obvious question
Submitted by JeffC... on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:39pm.
Why does The Nation have a (presumably-paid) sports editor? Do those leftist feminist pantywaists actually follow sports, aside from women's basketball and golf?
Doubt it....
Submitted by Aubrey on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:40pm.
Maybe some masculine Lesbians (Dykes) watch football but few if any limp wristed pasty gay, so called, men.
I've got news for the left..
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:48pm.
Most conservatives don't really care about gay people. I know I spend absolutely NO time thinking of how to harm them, get rid of them, etc. Sometimes I wish some of them would shut up (o'Donnell, Savage), but in all fairness I think that about some straight people (Obama comes quickly to mind).
Oh, Does he now?
Submitted by Winghunter on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 5:16pm.
Obama Accused of Gay Sex, Drugs, and Murder http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwgD-8Bj_Qs
We didn't care until their agenda was being forced down our throat through our childrens schools and activities, military, workplace, special rights, special criminal protections, etc....
I say
Submitted by bobsmom on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 5:16pm.
the same thing when it comes to being accused of "holding minorities back". If they (libs) had any idea of the time I DON'T spend thinking about anything racial (until they shove it in my face) they'd be very surprised. I'm too busy trying to live my own life most days to spend all the time they think we do hatin' on everybody.
As far as Tim Tebow, I hope he winds up somewhere folks appreciate him, he deserves it.
Now, I have to go back to hatin' and scribblin' in my rule book, "Maher is a comedian, Rush is the de facto head of the GOP, Sarah Palin is brainless, and now, Tim Tebow has the power to turn back time.........." Got it. Hard to keep it all straight lately./s
BobsMom
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 5:17pm.
I know you're busy so let me give you another one: listen to Kirk Cameron to get all angry at gays, cause if anyone inspires anger and violence in me it's Mike Seaver ;)
Get outta
Submitted by bobsmom on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 5:29pm.
my head!! LOL, as I was scrolling down, I was chuckling to myself re Tebow and politics and thinking Man Damn! I could get behind a Tebow/Cameron or Cameron/Tebow ticket in a minute!!
All kidding aside, I wholeheartedly admire both of these young men. With them on our side, I see some REAL hope for the future. They handle themselves with such dignity, something their detractors just cannot stand.
New York Jets Fans Breath Sigh of Relief
Submitted by Winghunter on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 5:10pm.
While we know Ron Paul is a nutcase, he's also a doctor and he didn't use bathroom/sink/eat at sexual deviants homes for valid reasons!
Homosexuals are less than 1% of the population.
This 1% has appx. 80% of the nation’s AIDs and 64% of the syphilis. (AIDS was not the original name for the disease. It was called GRID (gay-related immunodeficiency disease) before the medical community was physically threatened and intimidated into changing from the rightful dishonor of the deviant behavior that spread it.
Lesbians on average have 4 times the number of male partners and are twice as likely to have an STD as normal women.
Homos and lesbians have the highest suicide rates in the nation.
Many Homos suffer from 'gay' bowel syndrome – just the act of what they do causes numerous physical problems.
Sexual deviants have much higher alcohol and drug abuse rates.
Every nation in the history of the world that has allowed homosexuality to infect their society has fallen within two generations.
No nation of civilization has allowed or embraced homosexuality on the way to the top, it is always on the way to the bottom and near their destruction that homosexuality becomes allowed and common.
? ?
Submitted by Dave the mailman on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 6:15pm.
If they (lesbians) have MALE sex parters, doesn't that kinda make them bisexual and not lesbians? And if they have 4 times as many partners, and they're not lesbians....then they're just....sluts?
But I get you're point. I have long since been explaining my theory that in order to "catch" AIDS during normal hetero male/female sex, a male has to receive body fluid (blood, saliva, or semen) from an infected partner. During normal unprotected sex -assuming the male DOES NOT have any open sores or broken skin- there is little to no transfer of fluids from the female to the male. Wouldnt it have to swim upstream like a salmon up the urethra? The whole idea that its no longer a gay/druggie disease is a political correctness ploy aimed at increasing funding for research, IMO.
"While we know Ron Paul is a
Submitted by lrgon on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 2:20am.
"While we know Ron Paul is a nutcase," ---winghunteress
"... we need to make this more buffoonish a situation. We need to make this more clownish and bring in Tim Tebow and have a full pledged reality program."-----Dave Zirin
Both comments are basically a bigoted and hate-filled attack on two principled Christians.
Um, no, Irksome.
Submitted by UpNorth on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 11:14am.
The comment about Ronpaul is just the truth, and you can't handle the truth.
Tebow to the Jets is a
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 6:35pm.
Tebow to the Jets is a disaster waiting to happen, but not for any of the reasons given. The Jets are a complete mess.
Yes, the Jets are a mess
Submitted by iFight on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 7:34pm.
And 2 of the 3 teams in the Jets division have already beat up pretty well on the Tebow led Broncos.
Health-wise, I wonder how the mile high air compares to the New Jersey Turnpike?
J-school
Submitted by sngnsgt on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 6:59pm.
So this is what they teach these days? This guys a jerk. Let him cover curling in Winnepeg.
I agree
Submitted by Rukus on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 8:35pm.
But the lady curler's are not only talented but look good doing it, just sayin'. Oink.
Weird Tebow going to NY
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 7:05pm.
It would be some sight to see that City get behind, and emulate him?
The latest buzz is, he may not be going afterall.
Submitted by jawebster1 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 7:32pm.
Why do the Jets need Tebow? They already have Sanchez. I'd like to see him go to a team that needs a good Quarterback. The 49ers maybe?
Alex Smith hater?
Submitted by iFight on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 7:46pm.
He just signed for 3 more Niner years.
I have noticed that Liberals and Gays are less tolerant...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 7:30pm.
of Conservatives and Straights than the other way around. Isn't bigotry bigotry no matter what your sexual orientation happens to be?
ONLY ON M.S.S.R. (M-BS-NBC)
Submitted by djwolf12 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 7:56pm.
ONLY ON M.S.S.R. (M-BS-NBC), could they NOT bring on a real sports reporter to report on Tim Tebow. ONLY ON M.S.S.R. (M-BS-NBC), could they not even bring on Bob Costas, Rodney Harrison, Tony Dungy, Dan Patrick, and Peter King (ALL from NBC Sports) to discuss this. They resort to that Commie Pinko Bloody rag THE NATION MAGAZINE to discuss Tim Tebow.
Boycott Comcast and ALL of their subsidiaries.
The seething hatred and transparent bigotry of Zirin..
Submitted by greggy on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 4:23am.
has rendered the man completely senseless. He is a raving lunatic, frothing at the mouth not over anything Tebow has said or done, but over what he THINKS Tebow THINKS.
Think of how seething with hatred Zirin is - he wants to see Tebow battered with hostile questions regarding LGBT issues and birth control policy, when Tebow hasn't said a WORD about either one. Zirin feels that Tebow must be subjected to the gay inquisition, on the grounds that he MIGHT CONSIDER doing something in politics, several years from now.
Apparently, if Tebow can't pass a gay-friendly, "thought-crime" litmus test, he must be hounded, he must be battered, he must be rejected and prevented from playing QB in New York.
The liberal authoritarianism of this raving lunatic's, this angry anti-faith bigot's pathos, is unfathomable to me.
Gays
Submitted by okiehawk44 on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 8:30am.
So if I don't like all gays I'm a homophobe? I have to like all gays? All gays? All?
Nah, you can pass on ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 5:37pm.
liking Rosie O'Donnell, Dan Savage, and Perez Hilton.
MD
Somebody with another set of ideas
Submitted by misterbee241 on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:00am.
Wow, the nerve of that Tebow guy.
Zirin's Complaint
Submitted by Dryden01 on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:30pm.
Someone needs to state that concerns over the emotional welfare of the gay community regarding complete acceptance of its political agenda should no longer be the national priority. There are are more pressing concerns like jobs, the economy, destruction of the traditional family, abortion of poor minority infants, and rampant pollution of cultural and moral values that result from heterosexual adoption of gay promiscuous sexual ethics.
Zirin should direct his outrage to persons like Perez Hilton and those that are content to hear him use the C-Word to describe women who do not believe that we should pretend that gays can be "married" in order to become entitled to spousal marriage benefits. Those benefits, Mr. Zirin, were intended to encourage the conception and raising of the next generation of children and not to feather the economic nests of gays who are merely rearing each other on a committed basis.
Instead of worrying about Tebow and how playing football is a menace to the interests of the lesbocracy, Zirin should attack legitimate threats like Islamic laws that put practitioners of homosexual sodomy to death in Arab lands. Let Zirin, with the same spirit as the Lincoln Brigade in Spain, form and lead a "bugger brigade" rebellion against the ban on gay pride parades in Riyahd, Damascus, and Tehran for starters. Take Perez Hilton and Rosie with you Mr. Zirin and we will all hope that your troops do not wind up in a bag of Purina Camel Chow at some Arab Oasis.
Gift that keep on giving
Submitted by Jonah Johansen on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 12:31pm.
File this under-"When your enemy is digging themselves into a deeper hole don't stop them hand them a shovel"
Simple thought experiment. Say you were able to poll the entire MSNBC audience at the time (all 6 of them) before and after this persons remarks; as to whether they are now more or less sympathetic to gay activism, gay social or political demands, liberal cause in general or the relative bias of MSNBC on such matters-
I am not sure of what the margin would be, probably small but definitely in the opposite direction of what the speaker and MSNBC intended.
It is one of the great contradictions of Newsbusters. As much as you want to expose MSNBC, to stop the propaganda; the reality is- that they ultimately are probably hurting their cause more than helping it. Their hard core left wing audience are lost and beyond hope, but the very small minority of their audience, who are independent or on the fence or are pursuadable are turned off by the extremism.
They actually did a poll of people who saw Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 911 movie and found out, that contrary to expectation; that of the small number of people whose opinion was affected by seeing the movie, a majority of those actually were more positive about Georg Bush than negative,after viewing the movie. In other words the movie had very little effect in changing people views and what little affect was contrary to the propaganda intent of the filmmaker.