Whoopi Goldberg: Communism Is 'a Great Concept' That 'Makes Perfect Sense' on Paper
According to "The View's" Whoopi Goldberg, communism is a "great concept" that "makes perfect sense" on paper. The comedienne and co-host made the rather astounding comment on Tuesday while discussing the death of North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il.
After mentioning the background of new leader Kim Jong Un and his education at a Swiss boarding school, Goldberg proclaimed, "...If you say that this is how our culture is and then you send your child to a Swiss boarding school. You know, this is what happens with communism. It's a great concept. On paper it makes perfect sense." [See video below. MP3 audio here.]
The comic added, "But once you put a human being in power, it shifts. We saw it in Russia, we've seen it all around the world."
After lauding the "great concept" of communism, Goldberg said of North Korea: "But, I keep my fingers crossed."
Co-host Joy Behar chimed in, "We wish them well in North Korea."
Behar's comments sound similar to that of the late Andy Rooney. In 1989, he credulously insisted:
"Communism got to be a terrible word here in the United States, but our attitude toward it may have been unfair. Communism got in with a bad crowd when it was young and never had a fair chance...
The Communist ideas of creating a society in which everyone does his best for the good of everyone is appealing and fundamentally a more uplifting idea than capitalism. Communism's only real weakness seems to be that it doesn't work."
-- 60 Minutes commentator Andy Rooney in The New York Times, June 26, 1989.
A transcript of the December 20 segment can be found below:
11:10am EST
SHERRI SHEPHERD: But I was going to go back to Kim Jong, what interests me, is the fact that now that he's gone, his son is supposed to take over. Now, his son, it seems that he was ruling, Jong- he didn't have a lot of compassion, 'cause I know a lot of the money went into the military. But, his son- he went to boarding school in Switzerland.
JOY BEHAR: What is he, 12? The son?
WHOOPI GOLDBERG: He's in his late 20s.
ELISABETH HASSELBECK: His age is protected.
SHEPHERD: He's in his late 20s. But he went to school- he went to school in Switzerland. So it's interesting to see, with him being, you know, being in the western world, if he comes over to rule, is he going to bring that sensibility to-
GOLDBERG: Well, that's why there is some question as to whether he's actually going to be left to rule because the military is kind of going "we're not sure." And just to talk about the diplomacy for a second. You know, during the Clinton administration, one of the things that he did was a lot of leaders that we had issues with, was he did go and he did diplomatic, he and Kim Jong Yum Yum, as I call him, talked quite a bit. And there was a, you know, staying off. When Mr. Bush came in, he had a different focus. So, Kim Jong-
BEHAR: Il.
GOLDBERG: Kim Jong-il- there's too many.
BEHAR: He's not ill anymore. He's dead now
GOLDBERG: Remember, he thought he had been insulted, remember?
ELISABETH HASSELBECK: Oh, my gosh. Yes.
GOLDBERG: Remember, he felt he was insulted because he wanted the same kind of talks with Mr. Bush that with Mr. Clinton had with him. So, a lot of this- a lot of this- a lot of this harumph is a lot of ego stuff on their part.
HASSELBECK: And this guy is so young, he's probably just going to want to text. He's going to be like, "Let's text over it. Let's not e-mail."
BEHAR: By the way, Saddam Hussein who is now taken out, dead. He also liked American culture. It didn't- In other words, it doesn't always matter.
GOLDBERG: No, it doesn't matter. Because, you know, if you say that this is how our culture is and then you send your child to a Swiss boarding school- You know, this is what happens with communism. It's a great concept. On paper it makes perfect sense. But once you put a human being in power, it shifts. We saw it in Russia, we've seen it all around the world. It's nuts. But, I keep my fingers crossed.
BEHAR: We wish them well in North Korea.
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SHERRI SHEPHERD: But I was going to go back to Kim Jong, what interests me, is the fact that now that he's gone, his son is supposed to take over. Now, his son, it seems that he was ruling, Jong- he didn't have a lot of compassion, 'cause I know a lot of the money went into the military. But, his son- he went to boarding school in Switzerland.









Comments
Typical!
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 6:50pm.
Goldberg shares the idea that the reason communism doesnt work is that the wrong people have run it. Kind of like O'BlameO, the reason socialism didn't work is because HE wasn't running it. How is that working out for ya there Zero??
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
That's been the case for decades
Submitted by Cappmann1962 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 10:08am.
The mental disorder that is liberalism is filled, top to bottom, with the same mentality, which is probably why they keep on trying the same failed policies over and over. Every single one of them, when confronted by the FACT that liberalism, progressivism, communism, socialism (whatever the daily catch-phrase is), has consistently failed truly believes that if THEY had been in charge it would have worked (and still can if given a chance - with THEM in charge). Whoopster is right to a degree. Communism, on paper, is an ideal society. But, on paper, a bumble-bee can't fly either. The paper version of communism never fails to leave out the human factor. And then you have the Obamas, Pelosis, Boxers, and assorted communist/leftist dictators throughout history. The hypocrisy of these extremely dangerous idiots is amazing. They want everyone to share everything - except THEM.
The following quotes tell it all:
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. Margaret Thatcher
We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. Winston Churchill (1903)
On speaking about communism: "We pretend to work; they pretend to pay us." Vladimir Voinovich
There are severe limits to the good that the government can do for the economy, but there are almost no limits to the harm it can do. Milton Friedman, Nobel laureate
There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. Robert A. Heinlein
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot further the brotherhood of many by encouraging class hatred. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than you earn. You cannot build character and courage by taking away mans initiative and independence. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. Attributed to Abraham Lincoln, but actually penned by William J. H. Boetcker
There is no virtue in compulsory government charity, and there is no virtue in advocating it, A politician who portrays himself as "caring" and "sensitive" because he wants to expand the Government's charitable programs is merely saying that he's willing to try to do good with other people's money. Well, who isn't? And a voter who takes pride in supporting such programs is telling us that he'll do good with his own money - if a gun is held to his head. P. J. O'Rourke
Government's view of the economy should be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it. Ronald Reagan (1986)
If you have been voting for politicians who promise to give you goodies at someone else's expense, then you have no right to complain when they take your money and give it to someone else, including themselves. Thomas Sowell (1992)
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. Norman Thomas - Socialist Party Presidential candidate (1948)
No republic has long outlived the discovery by a majority of its people that they could vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. Alexander Tytler
Sooooo WHoopie
Submitted by theduck6 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 11:03am.
How does one have any form of govt without some flawed human being in charge?
These thoughts permeate the looney left because they think with their hearts and not their heads. One is meant to feel with one's heart and think with the head. The really great can do both at the proper ratio for the situation. Our present "Dear Leader" is not in that subgroup. It's an affliction born in the faculty lounge and treated in the real world. I, therefore, do not hold out any hope for a cure for our "Dear Leader". Alas!
Communism is based on several
Submitted by robert108 on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:00pm.
Communism is based on several false beliefs about human nature; that is the reason for its failure. Conversely, the free enterprise system is based on the truths of human nature, and that is the secret of its success. Goldberg illustrates the ignorance of the liberal mindset about human nature.
You, sir,
Submitted by HockeyKid on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 10:28pm.
win the kewpie doll.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
And now for something slightly different
Submitted by Unsane on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 11:12pm.
You know, I'd argue a little differently: communism treats human nature as if it is a disease. Capitalism acknowledges human nature and manipulates it to positive ends.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I think this is something a
Submitted by redfish on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 2:01am.
I think this is something a lot of people misunderstand... the idea is that Communists believe everyone will act selflessly, while its human nature to act in a self-interested way. But in Marxist theory, the idea is that the capitalist system will collapse precisely because of self-interest. Marx's argument was that, because of greed, power over time would continue to accumulate into the hands of fewer and fewer people; at which point the people with power would be easier and easier to overthrow.
As to Whoopi's point -- anything can look good on paper, if you put the right spin on it. Libertarianism just offers everyone freedom to do whatever they want without hurting each other. Conservativism rewards people the most who live their life with the right values, according to their merit in society. Liberalism is open and tolerant and builds a just society. Progressivism is about always moving society forward. Communism is about everyone being equal and sharing with each other. Fascism is about the whole of society working together to better the nation.
That doesn't mean everything makes sense. The reason Communism is cited as a being the ideal has a lot to do with whats popular in academia.
AND Now For The Truth
Submitted by Winghunter on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 6:35am.
Forensic Psychiatrist Explains the Madness of (Modern) Liberalism http://t.co/zoDKXZt
Communism - Grinding America Down http://bit.ly/p3tVrA
Looks good
Submitted by Tjexcite on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:04pm.
Look good and that is why so many people want to try it. But it does not look good even on paper. The only paper that looks good both on paper and in original practice is The American Constitution. But when people don't follow as the paper has it in the US Constitution millions do not die. With communism, if it is not followed as written on paper millions do die.
You Have To Be Smart For The Constitution To Look Good
Submitted by Avitar on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:30pm.
Try reading the Federalist Papers which explained the Consitution in the newspapers. You will realize that you have to be halfway through College to understand it.
How smart do you have to be to realize that the second amendment lowers the crime rate, but it does.
Seconds count
Submitted by pockets64 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 10:13am.
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
It looks good on paper in the way that the famous
Submitted by WhoIsJohnGalt on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 9:47pm.
cartoon of how to build a swing looks good on paper. You know...the one that shows how the marketing requested it, how an engineer designed it, how it was installed, etc., etc.
Communism does look good, if you don't truly understand human nature. In the same way that the idea of an electric car looks good, until you start introducing all the outside influences and problems and second and third level consequences and logistic problems and ridiculous government actions. Otherwise, sure! An electric car? Plug it in to charge and then go? Why, that's GREAT!!
she's right...
Submitted by wizardjr on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:08pm.
toilet paper
Paper Chase
Submitted by Pilgrim1949 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 2:51pm.
I posted something similar elsewhere.
Poop, like communism, looks good on (toilet) paper, but unlike Whoopi Cushion who wants to embrace it, my initial instinct is to flush it down the toilet....which is exactly where it has taken country after country that has in vain tried to use ruthless, brutal force to engineer a pastoral, peaceful, "Kumbaya-like" Utopia.
With basically-selfish human beings it ain't gonna happen, which underscores the genius of our Founding Fathers in balancing the self-seeking interests of complementary branches of governmental power.
Densa (Mensa's inverse, moronic counterpart) charter member Whooping Cough strikes once again, displaying for all to see the mental wonders that her single-synapse brain is capable of conjuring up, along with her joyless (jackass-)bray-hard sidekick.
"Ye canne change the laws of physics....." but some politicians believe that with the right legislation you can pretend they don't really apply to your own pet projects...
Whoopi is correct
Submitted by MidAmerica on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:10pm.
Communism is the best model for society.... IF it wasn't for the reality of the true nature of people. Many religious communities have been communal. In fact, there are former communal communities near where I live that were started in the 1800's that are now tourist destinations showcasing pioneer life.
But communal communities always fail. Why? Human nature is not communal, only cooperative for self-interest.
We teach our children to be communal. We try to be fair, give each according to his needs and take from them what they can give. But that's a world for children. Adults won't live in a world designed for children.
It's such a great idea
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:11pm.
Huge numbers of people have to killed or forced into work camps to make it "work". The stupidity of this woman never ceases to amaze me.
So Whoopi said
Submitted by CO2Maker on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:12pm.
"If you say that this is how our culture is and then you send your child to a Swiss boarding school. You know, this is what happens with > BRRRRAAPPPPP< ... Good ness, a barking spider, or whooping frog or something. I shoulda leaned forward more. But what was I saying? Um yadda yadda yadda , oh yes, BRRRAAPPPPP happens with communism. It's a great concept. On paper it makes perfect BRRRAAAPPPPPP."
This
Submitted by bkeyser on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:14pm.
from the woman who farts on live TV. Whoopi dear, you stink.
1st politically correct remark in my lifetime
Submitted by jdlybrand on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:41pm.
'Cutting farts' became 'breaking wind'.
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
I'd say with Whoopsi, and her
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 11:03am.
I'd say with Whoopsi, and her Moooooooooooochelle sized rear-end, that it's probably more like a big dangerous gust of wind!!!
Whoopi Is Smarter Than That
Submitted by Avitar on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:22pm.
She may have dropped out of school at age fifteen to have a baby but she knows it has been tried hundreds of times she just doesn't khow why it fails. She should be smarter than Paul Krugman without a formal education? She may not even realize that Ronald Reagan had a BA in economics or that George W. Bush has a Harvard MBA. In the community that she lives and works they often don't consider formal qualification of knowledge.
It would take a very smart person most of a day to explain to her why communism will always fail. If she has the time she has the money for what the English call privat school.
Yes, Communism works well...
Submitted by Liberallies on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:24pm.
Yes, Communism works well... to kill hundreds of millions of human beings. But Whoopi is not alone in her line of thinking, which is scary!
why is it that Leftists, rightly so, go after the Nazis who mass murdered 6 million human beings, and led to the untold deaths of countless of other millions. But then they turn around and embrace an ideology, Communism, and Communist who have mass murdered 100s of millions of human beings!!
If Whoopi thinks Communism works so well, why doens't she start by giving up her wealth. She can keep $60,000 a year and give the rest way, right? She can start by leading by example....Sean Penn can join her. this Hollywood hypocrites, shameless.
They hate Fascism because ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 8:19pm.
... that creates the illusion of a free enterprise system working. Communism makes no bones about the state owning everything. Fascism keeps the fools thinking that there is a free enterprise, private industrial economy while the truth is the government is controlling their actions and decisions. (Who owns GM, Chrysler, the big banks, GE, NBC, MSNBC, etc.)?
Bottom line is, liberals are morons. They're angry at Obama because he isn't 'commie" enough for them. That's because he has set up a Fascist regime in legion with the likes of Soros, Emmelt, and Wall Street moguls. Liberals are such dunces that they don't see where it is all headed.
What they don't understand is how useless they will all be to Da One if he completes his "fundamental changes to the country."
Hitlers Appreciation of Useful Idiots
Submitted by Winghunter on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 6:41am.
“It also gives us a very special, secret pleasure to see how unaware the people around us are of what is really happening to them.” –Hitler
Communist Body Count: 149,469,610 (Pre-Obama)
Submitted by Winghunter on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 6:38am.
Communist Body Count: 149,469,610 (Pre-Obama) http://bit.ly/fA4S4P
Looks good on paper
Submitted by Eric the Fred on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:28pm.
Could be why so many academics - and the patchouli-scented disciples sitting at their feet - fall for the non-sense that is Communism (and Socialism) despite its horrendous record in the real world. The other reason is the rejection of any kind of God (academics and their 'free-thinking' students particularly love that bit).
Yeah, if only the 'right' kind of people (i.e. themselves) were to implement Communism this time then it would work and we'd have utopia. No, really, *this* time it'll be different.
What was it Einstein said about the definition of madness?
"patchouli-scented disciples"
Submitted by almostacowboy on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 9:38am.
I love that! Is that original?
That stuff gives me an
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 11:04am.
That stuff gives me an instant headache!!! I don'tknow how the hippies can wear it - although they probably smell WORSE without it, if that's possible.
Wait a minute, Eric, I'm a
Submitted by marpel on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 1:52pm.
Wait a minute, Eric, I'm a conservative and I wear patchouli...it's the only "perfume" that smells good on me...No business!!
"Deep within my heart lies a memory. A song of ol' San Antone..."
Pipe dream
Submitted by jdlybrand on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:35pm.
I saw it in the sixties and seventies. It was all hallucinogenic. It still is.
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
Clinton years
Submitted by MrLuigi on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:38pm.
Goldberg takes the opportunity to both praise Bill Clinton and bash George W. Bush over supposed differences in their approach to diplomacy. What she fails to convey to her audience is that Clinton paid North Korea to halt their nuclear weapons program but they took the money and continued anyway. Hasslebeck is too stupid to call her out on it.
Communism does look good on
Submitted by Kenny Bunkport on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:53pm.
Communism does look good on paper. And in Whoopi's defense, I think she pretty much said that it won't work in reality. I think the 'fingers crossed' thing isn't really an endorsement. More a hope that it doesn't continue as a poorly as it has.
I think her comments were entirely different than Andy Rooney's. He did what most pro-Communists do when confronted with history, make excuses. He and people like Bill Moyers never admit the problem is in the premise that people will do the right thing collectively. For them it's always in the execution. Rooney said Communism got in with the wrong crowd. Moyers thinks we need to filter out the opposition. Obama thinks that we aren't getting the message.
None can admit that Communism will ALWAYS fall in with the wrong crowd, you can't filter the opposition without pointing a rifle, and we ARE getting the message but we are rejecting it.
Communism is the perfected form of government for the secular humanist, who also believes in the perfectability of man. If someday they can manage to make Communism work, it will prove those nasty Christians wrong about the sinful nature of man and the need for redemption.
I love your tag line, Kenny B.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 8:25pm.
That actually worked for me one morning about 4 AM.
Some guy was trying to get in my door. I had my weapon out and told my wife to call 911 while I watched the mook working on the door. I heard her telling the 911 operator what was going on, and then she said "My husband has a gun!"
She then placed her hand over the telephone and said, "She says to put the gun away!" Remember the cops were a while away from arriving.
It was so absurd that I actually started laughing and said, "You're shittin' me, right?"
Bubba, doncha know that's
Submitted by Kenny Bunkport on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 9:36pm.
Bubba, doncha know that's what insurance is for? Nothing is worth taking the life of a potential Democrat vote.
I think somebody else might have this as their tagline, or it might just be something I heard in a similar vein.
When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.
Right...I'm sure Bubba took the time to examine
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 9:49pm.
the intruder's voter registration card.
Jer
perhaps the intruder is in this lineup
Submitted by mom_rox on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 10:10am.
No, Jer - it's not 100% certain that NB's intruder was a registered Democrat, but I can't recall mug shots with people wearing I ♥ GWB shirts or stickers ;)
from The Smoking Gun's 2008 Mug Shots of the Year: a gallery of Obama supporters
mom_rox, that's only because Ken Lay was wearing his
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 3:56pm.
underneath his Armani.
Jer
okay, Jer, that's possibly one
Submitted by mom_rox on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 6:30pm.
:)
Maybe not, mom
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 6:43pm.
I did some checking after posting that and Lay had been indicted by a grand jury, was later tried and convicted and was awaiting sentencing when he died. I'm not sure if he had ever been "booked" --arrested, fingerprinted, mug shot, etc.
Jer
Food for thought
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 10:10pm.
You know, I don't think Ken Lay was too enamored of Bush after Enron called the Treasury Department begging for help in the Fall of 2001 and were promptly turned away.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I think that was around the time Bush stopped referring to Lay
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 11:32pm.
as "Kenny Boy" but rather "Mr. Lay", a name he only vaguely recalled and a guy he wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole.
Jer
I'd have to say that the
Submitted by Kenny Bunkport on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 2:23pm.
I'd have to say that the break-in and burglary class of criminals are probably more likely to vote Democrat than Republicans. That might be a reason why Democrats push to allow inmates to vote while Republicans do not.
Perfect example!
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 10:49am.
Oh my lord, now I've seen it all and that really explains this phrase(I think it's even a title of a book) I heard a few years ago. Calling 911 and telling them that and they say "put the gun away!" is a perfect example of "Dial 911 and die."
The only thing you can rely on 911 for is a response team, not an action team.
-Jon
Yeah, bubba, you wouldn't
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 11:11am.
Yeah, bubba, you wouldn't want to protect your family or your property, huh??? After all, if the guy got hurt - or worse - it would be YOUR fault, and you'd be sued for damages, as well as some possible criminal proceedings.
Why don't we ever hear about the 'rights' of the victims when crimes are committed??? It seems like all I ever read or hear about is the 'civil rights' of the criminal being violated in some way. And, of course, don't EVEN get me going about so-called 'hate crimes'.........I still haven't figured that one out - it makes NO sense to me whatsoever, especially since those 'hate crimes' only seem to be a one-way street.
Killa, The irony of "hate
Submitted by Kenny Bunkport on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 2:12pm.
Killa,
The irony of "hate crime" is that if you tell the police, judge, and jury how much you hated your victim because of a long-standing grudge, that isn't a "hate crime". That is, if he's in your ethnic group.
If your nemesis was a different ethniticity, you might be charged with a hate crime. If you called him a name, you probably will be charged with a hate crime.
However, if you get in a fight with a complete stranger of different ethnic background, and inadvertently call him a racial epithet, well that's obviously a hate crime.
The beauty of hate crime legislation (at least for fascist liberals), is that they can pick and choose when to prosecute and play musical chairs with the semantics.
But wait, there's more!
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 10:12pm.
And it also has the effect of institutionalizing the concept of group rights. The Left loves that concept.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Swiss boarding schools: Incubators of the Elites
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:58pm.
Goldberg proclaimed, "...If you say that this is how our culture is and then you send your child to a Swiss boarding school. You know, this is what happens with communism."
I think she just described John Kerry, no?
No
Submitted by djwolf12 on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 8:16pm.
More like The Oprah and her magical boarding school.
Whoopi reminds of ...
Submitted by eigafan on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 7:53pm.
Whoopi Goldberg reminds me of Bruno, the eight year-old commandant's son in The Boy Who Wore Striped Pajamas. Who watches a Nazi propaganda film portraying idyllic camp life in a Jewish concentration camp, and hugs his father afterwards.
The typical North Korean citizen does not get to send their children abroad to a western boarding school. They've probably never heard or read of what happened to East Germany, when the wall came down and they finally joined their fellow germans on the western side for economic freedom. One only has to look at a night time satellite image of Korea to see the dark poor North versus the brightly lit prosperous South.
Good Grief! That creepy picture behind that Desk
Submitted by djwolf12 on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 8:14pm.
Sure seems like it would be perfect for these idiots on The "Progressive" View if it only were Obama. Whoopi, ok here is my question for you: If you think Communism is ok, then can we just take ALL your stuff first? YOUR weak arguments are the justification as to why Liberal Talk Radio is an abject FAILURE. You and your ilk flock to this kind of 'controlled" environment in which YOUR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS ARE NOT CHALLENGED.
this is...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 9:05pm.
typical regurgitation of the typical academic lie - communism is perfect on paper. Thanks for that nugget of wisdom Whoopie...I only heard it 100 times in college.
He starved his own people to
Submitted by DixT on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 9:19pm.
He starved his own people to death! And they ARE STILL STARVING! Very few North Korean citizens even have water to wash up in! His people were starving and he REFUSED--for many months---to accept outside help of "food shipments" for his starving people! Many people on these blogs don't remember "communism" in the Soviet Union---they're too young to remember. The standing in line the entire day TO BUY ONE LOAF OF BREAD---and that's about all they had to eat!
The government-sponsored MURDERS of innocent citizens, all because they didn't "toe the party line"---and many were MURDERED for much LESS.
Give me capitalism, or medicate me with opium.
Submitted by Crash on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 9:40pm.
Communism does not look good on paper!
Communism is a logical fallacy; which explains why idealist-impulsive-creative id-types fall for the idiocy.
It's not really "Rape" rape...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 10:12pm.
...It's not really "Communism" communism...
Didn't...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 10:17pm.
Obama say that to Joe the Plumber?
She's right, you know
Submitted by SaguaroJack on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 10:36pm.
Communism does work well -- for ants.
The differences between capitalism and communism can be summed up as the differences between human and ant psychologies.
Wherever tried, Communism sought to make people behave like ants. It never worked. And govt based on ant psychology never will work.
Don't feel bad, Lefties: Ants have no luck trying to make a go of human-style govt, either.
.
Yea communism is fantastic
Submitted by GregE on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 10:45pm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxLBywKrTf4
Look like the set of The View would fit nicely into North Korea, with the big arse picture of the Goof Successor in the background and all.
Speaking of which, have you
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 11:14am.
Speaking of which, have you noticed that L'il Kim's sons, as well as the uncle who will be 'sharing power', and a lot of the other ruling class are well-fed - to a point that they're somewhat chubby???
I'm pretty sure the rest of the country doesn't look like that.........how fat can you get, living on dogs, sticks, shrubs, and babies??
killa,
Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 11:47am.
Bolton beats up the current administration pretty bad for the lack of any type of plan in dealing with DRPK.
I think the current
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 11:55am.
I think the current administration could be beaten up pretty badly for just about ANY foreign, or domestic, policy or planning - or lack thereof!!!
And from what I understand, China allready has a problem with North Korean illegal aliens coming into the country - and China's got enough of it's own people to worry about.
They've been eating polar bears
Submitted by CO2Maker on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 6:27pm.
The ones that wash up on ice floes or get whacked in the head by the big wind turbines as they migrate south to Vietman.
The only
Submitted by Bob K on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 10:54pm.
upside, if there is one, to communist revolutions is that after they are successful, they always get rid of the "useful idiots", thus eliminating the most likely people to challenge them in the future. People like Whoopie Goldberg and Sean Penn always think that they will be in the elite leadership of the new workers paradise. LOL
I doubt this idiot has ever
Submitted by rbosque on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 12:12am.
I doubt this idiot has ever read Marx' theories. In any case, it doesn't look good on paper either. Dumb harpie.
The math behind ethnic cleansing
Submitted by bfrank on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 12:37am.
also looks good on paper, too. The number cruncher for the Nazi 'Final Solution' deserves a Nobel Prize for mathematics. What is that phrase about opening the mouth removes all doubt?
Well I suppose the same
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 12:49am.
Well I suppose the same arguement could be made for slavery, how about it whoopi?
I'm still waiting for
Submitted by Slyrr on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 1:20am.
I'm still waiting for Hollywood uber-genius 'Whoopi' to explain the difference between 'rape' and 'rape-rape'.
Depends on who's doing it
Submitted by CO2Maker on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 8:25am.
Mega-star director whom you admire?
Not rape.
Mega-star president whom you admire and professes to keep abortion legal, safe, and just frequent enough to be convenient?
Not rape.
Okay, Ms Goldberg...
Submitted by Too Old To Be Cool on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 3:08am.
...you give all your money, your cars, your homes, everything you own...give it to the poor so they can have as much as you.
What's that? You say you "worked" for what you have, so you should keep all of it? I see.
Most libs are clueless because ...
Submitted by metaphorsbwithu on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 3:32am.
They only know the talking points and lack critical thinking skills.
I'll bet a dollar to a dime neither Goldberg nor Behar has read either the Communist Manifesto or the Federalist Papers.
Whoopsie
Submitted by GigglingGoogler on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 7:49am.
Communism will only work when all the people are just like the Stepford Wives. Communism will only work when incentive is removed from the human code; in other words all of the people in the world will have to be "lobotomized!"
Whoopi Doodle Dandy
Submitted by Gat New York on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 8:26am.
All-American Whoopi Doodle Dandy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba-kXbMLlZQ
(refers to Whoopi’s on-air live fart on The View)
What North Korea has is a pure totalitarian dictatorship and not some communist utopian idea.
And had Whoopi spent any time with books she would have known that it was not a good idea even on paper.
I wouldn't refer to Whoopi as a ONE TIME FART
Submitted by djwolf12 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 3:40pm.
This whole show has been like a 1 hour, 10-year fart on ABC at 11am EST. She just adds a fart scented with a little Mao.
Communism is a great thing-Murdering Millions in the name-
Submitted by JIMMY1660 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 10:49am.
of your great way of life-that has never succeeded.
NEVER=NEVER=NEVER
Except for when, you know,
Submitted by wiwf on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 11:57am.
Except for when, you know, there are a few select people in charge of all the money, and keep most of it for themselves.
When you consider that Hoopy
Submitted by Rusty Shackleford on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 1:05pm.
When you consider that Hoopy Goldburger is an Obama supporter who believes Mumia Abu-Jamal is innocent, then this is a intelligent claim. Unfortunately for Hoopy, it requires a very small piece of paper in order to make communism work.
Humans instinctively move for their own best interest: capitalism exploits this truth of human nature and directs it towards a productive end while communism pretends the opposite is true. Communism fails because it expects humans to operate in the exact opposite way. Instead, people continue to look out for themselves so they end up putting in minimal effort while acquiring the fruit's of another's labor.
Geeze, that wouldn't have taken up much space on a piece of paper to noodle all of that out would it? It's kind of funny how Hoopy Goldburger is Joy Behar's intellectual superior too.
Not only is this human nature but it's the nature of nearly every animal. You'd think a good Leftist, being a proud atheist and all, would have no trouble with understanding the concept that humans evolved over the years with this same survival-of-the-fittest mentality that their hero described a century ago.
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Chris Matthews: The Joy Behar of MSNBC.
Bill Maher: The Joy Behar of HBO.
Paul Krugman: The Joy Behar of The New York Times.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 1:08pm.
I think we can all stipulate that old Whoopi is a genius.
Liberalism is the fetus of
Submitted by marpel on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 1:54pm.
Liberalism is the fetus of Communism!!
"Deep within my heart lies a memory. A song of ol' San Antone..."
She's right
Submitted by MissMinPhx on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 2:37pm.
The Communist Manifesto, like Plato's Republic, do sound good on paper and that's why communism appeals to idealistic youth. I read the Communist Manifesto (and the Republic) from several points of view in college (from a philosophical perspective for philosophy, from a government point of view for poly sci and from a literature point of view). But even Karl Marx, when he wrote the manifesto, thought that the world was not yet ready for communism (a point communists love to omit when singing its praises) and he certainly never thought it would be Russia who adopted the philosophy. Whoppi is right in what she said. It is impossible to put something like communism in place without ending up with system that equates to rule-by-a-few, fosters repression and eliminates freedom. But lots of things sound good on paper that in the end are impractical.
One thing we conservatives need to do is understand why communism appeals to people - and that means understanding the manifesto and its inspiration, The Republic. Simply knocking it (and its believers) down is not effective - read the book, study both of its writers and understand why this philosophy has appealed to people like Mao, Che and Castro and why it still captures the hearts of young people. Most of today's people who idealize communism - Sean Penn, for example - are kind-hearted and believe that utopia and equality can be achieved - they are simply wrong about the approach it would take to achieve it (capitalism and a business-oriented society actually does more to foster peace than communism and repression). Unfortunately, those idealistic folks are the very ones who are taken advantage of by those who abuse the communist philosophy (such as Hugo Chavez using Sean Penn, Castro using Michael Moore, etc.).
Wasn't this the same person
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 5:36pm.
Wasn't this the same person who said something along the lines of roman Polanski didn't commit "rape rape"?
She now in resides some foreign land beyond idiocy.
Maybe Communism made perfect sense, once, on paper,,
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 11:28pm.
But this craptastic show, esp with Whoopie pie on it, NEVER made sense! Now, THIS is when she should have farted, so we wouldnt have had to hear her spew such drivel, and instead we got to smell her filth!
Anyone who's been in WalMart
Submitted by tampamom25 on Thu, 12/22/2011 - 8:46am.
Anyone who's been in WalMart during the Christmas shopping season or stuck in traffic just outside a major city knows why the idea of Communism doesn't work. People aren't interested in working for the good of anyone else.....the great majority of people are only interested in themselves, what they can get for themselves, and what someone can give them that will make their lives better. They are in it for themselves, not for anyone else. Can't help but wonder how Whoopi would feel if she was forced to share her wealth?
Tampamom,
Submitted by Agnostic on Thu, 12/22/2011 - 9:14am.
Not exactly - http://newsbusters.org/blogs/paul-wilson/2011/12/21/america-generous-not...
It is difficult to reconcile the ideas that capitalism and charity go hand in hand when you are discussing self interest but it is very real. Actually communism discourages charity because theoretically everyone is at the same level of need so why should you give more than is already confiscated.
Technically people don't want to be forced to work for the good of someone else and they don't want to be told what to do with their discretionary income.
Gasparilla is coming up - hope you enjoy the invasion.