Chris Matthews Lies About Ronald Reagan as Way to Smear 'Terrorist' Republicans
Hardball host Chris Matthews on Wednesday lied about Ronald Reagan's position on taxes in order to justify his bizarre assertion that the late President would consider the current Republican stance on the debt ceiling to be "economic terrorism."
Matthews, who did no fact checking, played a clip provided by the Congressional Progressive Caucus from a September 26 1987 Reagan radio address. In the brief snippet, Reagan was heard asserting that the "United States has a special responsibility to itself and the world to meet its obligations."
The left-wing anchor disingenuously spun the famous Republican's words as a future warning against GOP "terrorists": "There he is saying these brinkmanship this trickery around the time of a deadline just to get your way, is sort of economic terrorism." Listening to more at the address, however, debunks Matthews' Democratic talking points.
Reagan also insisted, "You don't need more taxes to balance the budget. Congress needs the discipline to stop spending more, and that can be done with the passage of a constitutional amendment to balance the budget."
At the beginning of the segment, Matthews highlighted a clip of Reagan noting on October 22, 1987, "Well, I am going to meet with leaders of the Senate because it is high time to bring down the deficit, which the Graham/Rudman/Hollings bill is supposed to do for us, towards a balanced budget."
Even though the clip included no reference to taxes, Matthews crowed: "That was, of course, the great Ronald Reagan in his own words back in October of 1987 about raising taxes to deal with the ballooning deficit. Sound familiar? Well today, many Democrats in Congress have picked up on Reagan's comments about raising taxes and are using the most revered of Republican' s words against his own party."
Yet, in that same press conference, here's what Reagan actually said about taxes:
RONALD REAGAN: But let me also point something out that I think all of us ought to understand: why I feel so strongly about the tax situation and resorting to taxes to curb a deficit, when they'll do nothing of the kind. In all these years or these 59 months of expansion, our tax revenues - now I believe that this expansion we're having is largely due to the tax cuts that we implemented early in our Administration. But for all this period of time, the percentage of revenues is about - well it's about 19 percent, every year, of the gross national product.
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Now, the gross national product has been increasing in size quite sizably. So that if we're getting revenues that are still 19 percent of that larger gross national product than the smaller, it would indicate that the revenues are sufficient.
Reagan added, "I will say this, with regard to taxes or sources of revenue: we must not do something that has an adverse effect - effect - on the economy."
Clearly, the host distorted the President's words.
Matthews teased the segment by wondering, "Would Reagan even be a Republican today?"
Liberal guest Joan Walsh continued the Democratic talking points, absurdly claiming, "This President, President Obama, who I don't always agree with, either, is actually the Reagan figure here."
Reagan may have compromised on some issues, but to try and portray him as somehow alien or separate from tax-opposed conservatives of today is absurd.
In the last three weeks, Matthews has three times compared the Republicans to terrorists and once said they were the "Wahhabis of American government."
A transcript of the July 20 segment, which aired at 5:20pm EDT, follows:
5:13
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Coming up, by the way, what would Ronald Reagan make of this fight over the debt ceiling? He signed 18 debt ceiling hikes as President, agreed to multiple increases of taxes over his presidency. Would Reagan even be a Republican today?
5:21
MATTHEWS: Joan, I want to respond to this. Here's a video the Democratic caucus has put out on its website right now in which Reagan talks about increasing the debt ceiling. It's very pertinent.
RONALD REAGAN: Congress consistently brings the government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. This brinkmanship threatens the holders of government bonds, of those who rely on Social Security and veterans benefits. Interest rates would skyrocket. Instability would occur in financial markets and the federal deficit would soar. The United States has a special responsibility to itself and the world to meet its obligations. It means we have a well-earned representation for reliability and credibility, two things that set us apart from much of the world.
MATTHEWS: Well, Joan, that sounds like ship to shore more than anything else. [The audio on the Reagan clip was now.] It sounded like Reagan underwater there. But, you got his point. There he is saying these brinkmanship this trickery around the time of a deadline just to get your way, is sort of economic terrorism.
JOAN WALSH: Well, right. Well, Reagan was very much a conservative, and I didn't agree with him on much, but he was a pragmatist and a compromiser. And the fact of the matter is, Chris, I heard my friend Michael talk about the Constitution and the Tea Party likes to talk about the Constitution and the founders, but the fact is the Founders didn't agree on very much at all. The Founders argued about a lot of things. And they created a system in which we had to talk to one another and had to compromise. This President, President Obama, who I don't always agree with, either, is actually the Reagan figure here. He is the person saying, you know what? I'm going to disappoint some folks. [Michael Steele starts laughing.] Please don't laugh at me, Michael. I didn't laugh at you.
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Shoudldn't you start each posting with a disclaimer?
Submitted by 10ksnooker on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 6:36pm.
Maybe make a banner to save space?
How about, "remember kiddies, liberals lie"
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And the temples were only Styrofoam.
Pretty much what I was
Submitted by Sockpuppet Politic on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 6:40pm.
Pretty much what I was thinking. This is just more of the same from Matthews -- hard to believe anyone actually watches this guy.
Once again I ask....
Submitted by neighb on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 7:37pm.
....If a Matthews speaks on a cable network, and noone is listening, is he really talking???
prissy chrissy would do anything
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 6:35pm.
for her man barry...... lie......... cheat............... steal........ put on those double thick knee pads and spring loaded neck brace.............
Chris Matthews has become a
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 6:40pm.
Chris Matthews has become a parody of himself.
I don't even think he takes himself seriously any more. I
mb,
Submitted by Chris Norman on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 6:58pm.
That's why I say he should be called "Tingles the Clown" - with full clown make up and costume, there would be no doubt on just how seriously to take him, that is, for anyone who may have any doubts left.
Joan Walsh saying anything positive on Ronald Reagan?
Submitted by drsamherman on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 6:46pm.
We've entered Bizarro!
Joan Walsh made a complete fool of herself (again) with her outlandish conspiracy insinuations on the Weiner affair. She could say the sky was blue and water was wet, but both statements would require independent verification.
Doesnt ANYONE in the news
Submitted by Snappy on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 7:02pm.
Doesnt ANYONE in the news know what context is? Or have any sense of balance, ethics or professional pride?
Sorry for the rhetorical questions.
I knew Ronald Reagan...
Submitted by jdripper on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 7:11pm.
we not soul mates or even best buddies, but I worked for and knew President Reagan and say this for the record. President Ronald Reagan spent his entire political career fighting people like Barack Obama. Ronald Reagan would never have voted for Barack Obama, and he dammed well would never have watched Chris Matthews show.
Jack
If Reagan...
Submitted by adamsmith on Thu, 07/21/2011 - 7:23am.
were alive today, he'd say this, "Mr Obama, tear down your Communist regime..."
Tingles is a retard. Nothing more, nothing less...
HEY!!!!
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:04pm.
WHY YOU GOTTA INSULT RETARDED PEOPLE..............
They didnt compromise
Submitted by Samshile on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 7:15pm.
before they argued.
It's a familiar pattern
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 7:33pm.
To attack a political enemy, they select an icon -- religious, political, military, etc. -- and distort their record to make them their own.
Thus, we're told that
- "Jesus Christ would be a socialist today."
- "Abraham Lincoln was gay."
- "Reagan would not be a Republican today." (Did they forget Reagan's 11th Commandment?)
What's even more absurd is the likes of Joan Walsh equating her hero Obama with the man she despised, Ronald Reagan. Obama is the complete opposite of Reagan; Obama shuns decision-making, while Reagan thrived in it.
But point out to them that (a) Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican or (b) JFK lowered taxes and it generated more revenue or (c) RFK's FBI spied on King, and they get apoplectic.
If Obama were like Reagan...
Submitted by desertdweller on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 7:48pm.
The Department of Education would be a memory.
Well, that's what Chrissy does.
Submitted by WarEagle01 on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 9:09pm.
He lies and then gets a thrill up his leg thinking about Obama. And then he gets a boner and has to stay seated as his desk for at 30 minutes thinking about dead puppies.
Panam Tingles is feeling the heat.
Submitted by Ashrak on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 9:10pm.
He knows that keeping up the illusion is no longer possible with innuendo and that he must outright lie to even try to make his electrifying idol look like anything but the buffoon that he is.
I predict an on-air meltdown from him soon. Or a extended vacation because it happened off camera.
Liberal brinksman ship is OK
Submitted by nkviking75 on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 10:59pm.
"There he is saying these brinkmanship this trickery around the time of a deadline just to get your way, is sort of economic terrorism."
Unlike the brinksmanship the Democrats are using to get a tax increase. That's honorable. (/sarcasm off)
“Always love your country — but never trust your government!" -- Bob Novak (1931-2009)
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
So What are you saying?
Submitted by hayate1 on Thu, 07/21/2011 - 3:00am.
When Reagan called congress irresponsible for playing with the debt ceiling he didn't really mean it bc the bigger context was left out? How does the comments about being irresponsible by gaming the debt ceiling change it's literal meaning when his comments are heard in their entirety? It doesn't. It still means what it's plain text reading means. Congress is acting irresponsibly. Who are those acting this way? Mostly the newbie tea baggers who are largly ignorant and just plain dumb.
Oh yea, lets not forget that Reagan's words of warning on the mounting debt and the solutions he mentioned did leave out a key solution already put in place to mitigate against further growth in national debt. Tax hikes. That fact underlies the statements by Chris regarding the GOP posturing as being something Reagan would have disapproved of since he was a man of compromise and real world practicality. Further to that point, Joan Walsh is merely stating that Obama should truly take the tact that Reagan did to control debt which was raising taxes lots of times. Obama wants the same thing Reagan fought for and , to some extent, accomplished. Increase revenues (taxes) and control spending.
"Facts are not decided by how many people believe them. Truth is not determined by how loudly it is shouted."
Even for a lib, hayate---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 07/21/2011 - 3:19am.
you are waaaaay out there.
"Obama wants the same thing Reagan fought for --- Increase revenues (oh yeah!) and control spending."
Amazing that you would state that, and absolute insanity if you believe it.
MD
TEA baggers?...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Thu, 07/21/2011 - 7:15am.
What does Barney Frank have to do with this article?
Context? Please explain why Senators Reid, o'bama, and Biden all voted AGAINST raising the debt ceiling in 2006. Here is what your hero, o'bama said:
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that 'the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."
Is this what you mean when you write your dribble about Reynauldus Maximus and the manchild President being the same? Does "Chris" the spittler give your leg a tingle? Matthews is a meathead slowly going off the rails on his crazy train.
the media
Submitted by jessieH on Thu, 07/21/2011 - 8:47am.
Funny that Matthews pulled that piece of footage. The media had a responsibility to itself and to this Nation and they have failed to meet their obligation of informative and truthful news reporting. The "fourth estate" was just as important as Congress or the President, at one time, but they have killed any respect they had left. Now, they're just hacks.......
Tingles the Clown lies again.
Submitted by Beukeboom on Thu, 07/21/2011 - 10:31am.
Tingles the Clown lies again. No big shock there. Is it my imagination but has the dishonesty among MSNBC "talent" grown more brazen since Comcast took over?
What does the current situation have to do with Reagan?
Submitted by scout on Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:07am.
Saying that Reagan raised the debt ceiling and whether he did or not is irrelevant in the first place. What about the fact that every Democrat in leadership, Reid , Pelosi, Hoyer, and even Senator Obama, dissed the idea of raising the Debt Limit, when Bush whas in the White House , Obama even calling any Debt Limit Increase a "Failure of Leadership!"
scout, Reagan and Kennedy
Submitted by Agnostic on Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:15am.
In his most recent article Sowell explains the tax cuts, increases and attempts at economic changes that occurred during the Kennedy and Reagan administrations. Of course he explains it so well I would dream of trying to create a synapses of the article but he does relate it to current events. I'm sure it will be posted at TownHall or IBD if not done so already.
Thank you, Scott
Submitted by RadarRecon on Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:47am.
Thank you for using that word. It needs to be said about almost every Democratic/Socialist/Progressive commentary in the media today. It most recently became controversial when shouted out at the President in the halls of Congress. It has occasionally been heard or read in moderate-to-conservative commentaries in the last few days, but really should be used FREQUENTLY to get the point across.
Here it is again, with a few extras to be spread around as needed (which is often):
LIE ... LIE ... LIE ... LIE ... LIE ... LIE.
Again, thank you for using it.