"Good Morning America" medical expert Dr. Tim Johnson on Friday gave ex-Health and Human Services nominee Tom Daschle a forum to promote his calls for a government run health care system. Co-host Robin Roberts made it clear in an introduction to the segment that there would be no discussion of the tax problems that forced Daschle to withdraw his nomination. Johnson, however, did offer softballs about what might have been. He cooed, "How hard is it for you to be sitting somewhat on the sidelines, compared to what you would have done?"
The medical doctor also agitated for quick action on a universal health care bill. Johnson extolled, "We hear constantly, if health care isn't done this year, politically, it's going to be impossible...Do you agree?" In a break from past cheerleading for government run health care, the medical expert actually asked a few challenging questions of the former Democratic senator. He asserted, "Most Americans will say they're for health care reform. But they don't want to pay any more for their health care. Or very little more. Can you have health care reform without increasing, overall, the costs for individual Americans?" Johnson also brought up Republican opposition to the legislation.
On October 19, 2007, the ABC News correspondent queried then-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, "Do you think the Republicans who are against [universal health care] are immoral?" On April 26, 2007, GMA co-host Robin Roberts introduced a Johnson segment on a new congressional health care bill by Ted Kennedy. She enthused, "You’re very happy about this. You say it's bold and politically brilliant."
On the September 24, 1993 edition of "20/20," Johnson praised, ""I say the Clintons are almost heroes in my mind for finally facing up to the terrible problems we have with our current health care system and bringing it to the attention of the public."
To read a round-up of Johnson's past lobbying for universal health care, see an October 8, 2008 NewsBusters posting.
A transcript of the April 24, 2009 segment, which aired at 7:14am, follows:
ROBIN ROBERTS: Next week, though, marks 100 days in office for President Obama. He has made it clear that health care reform is a big priority. We have an exclusive interview with the man who was once President Obama's top choice to overhaul health care, former Senator- Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle. He took himself out of the running after a controversy over his taxes, a controversy he did not discuss in the interview But what he did offer our medical editor, Dr. Tim Johnson, his views on health care reform.
ABC GRAPHIC: Health Care for All Americans? The Man Who Wants Reform Now
DR. TIM JOHNSON: Since your withdraw, how closely are you involved with the White House? With Preside Obama? With your colleagues in the Senate?
FORMER SENATOR TOM DASCHLE (D-SD): Well, I would like to think we're still very close. We talk with some frequency. They are very involved, of course, on a day-to-day basis on Capitol Hill. And to a large extent, I'm still able to talk with my former colleagues, as well as those with whom I would have worked at the department. So, still quite engaged.
JOHNSON: How hard is it for you to be sitting somewhat on the sidelines, compared to what you would have done?
DASCHLE: Well, it's hard in some ways. I'm more free now. I'm a little more flexible. So, the freedom I have to get around the country and passionately argue for things I believe in regarding health reform is a plus. So, there's pluses and minuses.
JOHNSON: We hear constantly, if health care isn't done this year, politically, it's going to be impossible. That is next year's an election year. Can't be done. It's this year or never, or at least for a long time. Do you agree?
DASCHLE: Well, I think there is unfortunately, a good deal of support and validity to that argument.
JOHNSON: How committed is President Obama to this issue? He has got so much on his plate. So much money he's talking about. Is he still committed to this?
DASCHLE: I don't think there's any doubt that President Obama feels as strongly about this as any issue before him today. I believe he believes this is a key part of his legacy as President of the United States.
JOHNSON: Let's talk about a couple controversial issues that are already on the table and being hotly debated. Number one, the whole issue of a public plan, which President Obama talked about during his campaign. A Medicare-like plan. As you know, the private health insurance industry is fighting this tooth and nail. They say they can't compete. Senator Grassley and many other Republicans have said it's a deal-breaker. Yet, the hard-core people on the other side say without it, we have no health care reform. What's going to happen to the public plan idea?
DASCHLE: It's extremely popular where with the American people. So, there's a lot of reasons to support it. The insurance companies oppose it. And whether or not we can come to some compromise in some way with which to resolve this difference, remains to be seen.
JOHNSON: Most Americans will say they're for health care reform. But they don't want to pay any more for their health care. Or very little more. Can you have health care reform without increasing, overall, the costs for individual Americans?
DASCHLE: If we can't tell the American people that we are truly going to reduce the growth of costs in health care today, we will not have solved this problem.
JOHNSON: And the minute you say you're going to control costs, or cut costs in health care, you are talking about real people, with real jobs, in this segment of the economy that's the only growth segment right now. How do you address that political problem?
DASCHLE: Obviously, job loss could be a factor. But if we have reduced our administrative costs, if we have eliminated unnecessary care, if we've eliminated a lot of the medical mistakes because we're using best practices and greater efficiency, that's a cost savings. All those cost savings is what exactly the American people want to see.
ROBERTS: And Tom Daschle also has a new book on the issue called "Critical: What We Can Do About the Health Care Crisis."
—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.




















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Daschle being a failed
April 24, 2009 - 14:46 ET by rimskyDaschle being a failed nominee for Health and Human Services automatically makes him an expert on the health care system in our country, and oh yes, it natually follows that he should be writing a book on it and make numerous speeches on the subject all over the country, because after all.. he was almost the Health and Human Services secretary.. I'm just sayin!
Why Not?
April 24, 2009 - 14:54 ET by JustAlObama was made President and is almost an American citizen.
JustAl... Obviously 'almo
April 24, 2009 - 15:12 ET by bigtimerJustAl...
Obviously 'almost' is good enough anymore in this nation...
I suppose unless other posters here join in and make calls next week that Sebelius and her ties with Tiller the Baby Killer will be confirmed in Daschle's place...because she is 'almost' good enough.
Please folks, call your Senators next week!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Could someone please
April 24, 2009 - 15:41 ET by motherbeltCould someone please explain how universal health care, education and energy come under the heading of economic stimulus?
It seems every time Obama talks about the "stimulus" package, those are the three things he talks about.
And Daschle unintentionally blurted out a truth when he said if we have eliminated unnecessary care,
Who will decide what is unnecessary, Mr. Daschle? (Can you say rationing?) The goal used to be not to have an insurance company beaurocrat deciding one's health care. Switching to a government beaurocrat is going to be better???
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
Drop your present health plan and...
April 24, 2009 - 15:38 ET by P. AaronTo all those idiots in congress and the media that clamor for "Universal Healthcare NOW!", all I can say is:
YOU FIRST!
The left will never
April 24, 2009 - 15:40 ET by kgThe left will never understand that it is not the health care that is the problem. It is the cost of it. Dr's are charging more if you are insured than if you had no insurance. This drives up the cost of insurance. Insurance companies also play games with the Dr's charges. This is where the real problem lies. Throwing taxpayer money at this is not going to fix anything.
"DumbAssity of Dope"
Dr. Johnson
April 24, 2009 - 15:40 ET by svh83Anyone know if Dr. Johnson has ever had to make his living actually treating patients?
"I think you'd better call John, 'cause it don't look they're here to deliver...the mail". -NY
JOHNSON: Most Americans
April 24, 2009 - 15:40 ET by fitzfongJOHNSON: Most Americans will say they're for health care reform. But they don't want to pay anymore for their health care.
So, in other words, they want other people to subsidize their health care because they want more services without paying more to get them. Yeah, that's responsible. And just see how many bright students become doctors in an Obama system where the risk of becoming a doctor far outweighs the potential rewards.
Quacks like Tim Johnson are using their inflated titles and economic illiteracy to turn the United States into a third world banana republic. I'd sooner put my health in the hands of Dr. Nick Riviera.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
The Death of Common Sense
April 26, 2009 - 09:28 ET by Galvanic"I'd sooner put my health in the hands of Dr. Nick Riviera."
Or to put it another way, we're on the verge of putting American health care in the hands of Dr. Kevorkian.
To quote P. J. O'Rourke, "If you think health care is expensive now, just wait 'til it's 'free.'"
Dr. Tim
April 26, 2009 - 10:08 ET by fitzfongDr. Tim Johnson
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Liar
April 24, 2009 - 15:53 ET by JDWObama has almost guaranteed his health care plan by eliminating middle class tax cuts.
JDW
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The government works for me, not the other way around
"Most Americans will say
April 24, 2009 - 17:49 ET by mandrake"Most Americans will say they're for health care reform. But they don't
want to pay any more for their health care. Or very little more. Can
you have health care reform without increasing, overall, the costs for
individual Americans?" Johnson also brought up Republican opposition to
the legislation."
Pay more?
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I know, but sometimes I just can't help myself..so blast away!!
Assuming your cherry-picked
April 24, 2009 - 17:59 ET by fitzfongAssuming your cherry-picked numbers are accurate (and given the source of those numbers, I'm highly skeptical), what coverage, what services, what procedures, what lead time and what drugs are available in these socialized medicine "utopias"? Something tells me you haven't the first clue. Typical ignorant pinko.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
fitzfong
April 25, 2009 - 10:46 ET by mandrakeActually, I do have a 'clue' I've lived in the socialist republic of Canada for 56 years now. I've raised three children and have never had a problem with their health care. In fact, I would rate Womens College Hospital at U of T against any in the world.
I myself am a rather clumsy oaf and have had several mishaps... my family will be able to sell my body for scrap metal when the time comes. But despite it all, I'm quite happy with our system. I've never experienced the months/years wait for treatment here..but that could be because I have a well connected family doctor. I don't know.
BTW,,I ain't no pinko..I'm a full blooded RED..commie to the core ;)
Mandrake
April 25, 2009 - 19:18 ET by fitzfongYou may be perfectly happy with what passes for health care in Canada...and I don't doubt that it's all for you and your family what you say it is. However, I seriously doubt a socialized system would work nearly as well here. For starters, the population here is significantly greater than it is in Canada. Giant bureaucracies are ill-equipped and too poorly disciplined to manage increased patient demand. And when you're required to treat millions of illegal aliens who won't pay into the system, your resources will be spread awfully thin...meaning treatment is rationed (not to mention the heavy-handed influence of bureaucrats who use their unchecked power to require patients to stop smoking before they get hip replacement surgery). Secondly, the poisonous influence that the trial lawyers will have in a single payer program will only punish those who put their capital at risk to create the treatments of the future. Drug companies will be further harassed and villainized to the point that it's not worth the effort to develop treatments and potential cures. The financial risk far outweighs the potential gain. Thirdly, what promising student in his or her right mind will go to the extra time and expense of attending medical school if his or her reward for all that work is a limited salary, crippling student debt and mind-boggling malpractice insurance rates caused by the parasitic influence of the trial bar? Besides, if socialized medicine is so great, why do so many Canadians come south to get cancer treatment? Why do top British athletes fly to Colorado to receive treatment from Dr. Richard Steadman rather than leave it to their local surgeons?
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Well fitzfong
April 25, 2009 - 19:50 ET by mandrakeI just we'll just agree to disagree. I will say one final thing just for fun. Look up the 'Soldice Clinic' on the web. (It's in Toronto) I was there a few years back and there were more than a few Americans there. ;)
Fair enough, mandrake.
April 25, 2009 - 22:10 ET by fitzfongFair enough, mandrake. All I can say is that as a cancer survivor, I sure am glad that I was afforded the opportunity to be treated in this "broken" American system rather than in that "ideal" Canadian system. The tests available to me down here meant that we could properly localize the cancer pre-op so the oncologist didn't have to perform the medical equivalent of swatting a fly with a cannon. I looked up "Soldice Clinic", but only found a "Shouldice Clinic". Is that the right one? From reading a brief history of the facility, I noticed that the doctor developed a method for surgically repairing hernias and, with his own initiative and capital, opened up two hospitals to treat hernias. Somehow I doubt the modern day doctor would have the ability to do that in a top-down, bureaucracy-layered socialized medicine environment. By the way, how many of those Americans were draft dodgers? ;-)
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
They only need to look across the border to do a balanced report
April 24, 2009 - 17:49 ET by AtTheWaterCoolerI've referance your post from Exposing Bias and Deception at ABC
and this has worked well where exactly?
April 24, 2009 - 17:54 ET by wizardjrNational health care is a joke - a cruel joke at that. Just ask those suffering under it.
As far as a 'crisis', it's the bloody government that caused it in the first place with all their meddling in the health care market. One used to be able to go buy a major medical policy. Those days are gone due to all the requirements slapped on by busy bodies. Then the price rises to pay for the requirements. Then half the people can't afford that policy.
NOW.... the government comes riding to the rescue. (Of course they just make it worse, as always)
The biggest problem with
April 25, 2009 - 10:50 ET by dmntd1The biggest problem with Univeral/Socialized/Nationalized/Federalized/Whateveryouwanttocallit-ized Healthcare is that the first decade, maybe two, will be ok. It will than start slowly degrading, until it costs more than we can put in to it.
Just like with Social Security insurance.
Like all things Communist/Socialist, the ideas are great, but the realities suck heinie.
WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare,
No thanks
April 26, 2009 - 10:38 ET by GalvanicDASCHLE: Obviously, job loss could be a factor. But if we have reduced our administrative costs, if we have eliminated unnecessary care,
Ay, yes. "Unnecessary care." But not unnecessary as determined by the tending physician. It's unnecessary as determined by a national board of bureaucrats, who have not the interest of the patient at heart, but the budget they must maintain.
DASCHLE: . . . if we've eliminated a lot of the medical mistakes because we're using best practices and greater efficiency, that's a cost savings.
What medical mistakes? Malpractice? Will medical professionals magically become more efficient because the Feds are running the show?
Why don't universal health advocates hold up Medicaid and Medicare as the actual examples of US national health care? Did they bring down costs, or achieve greater efficiencies?
The concept is most popular with Americans who pay no income tax. They expect Obama will just raise everyone elses taxes to pay for their care.
DASCHLE: All those cost savings is what exactly the American people want to see.
Of course. We all want cheaper everything. But there's no evidence that universal health care is cheaper; it merely hides the actual cost to the consumer by bundling it with the rest of the tax burden.
I believe mandrake when he says he's perfectly satisfied with the care he's received in Canada to date. But there are also real stories about waiting lists and provinicial quotas.
In the UK, according to a recent network news report, more and more Britons are turning to medical care outside of National Health, and at their own expense. The British government estimates that as much as 17% of health care is provided by private practice.
The Left and its MSM parrots love to cite Cuba as a health care paradise -- everyone gets health care for free. But they don't tell you that there is health care for the elite, and health care for everyone else. Obviously, the general health care is substandard. We're reminded of this when the same MSM reports that Cuban-Americans send packages of pharmaceuticals, aspirin, and Band-Aids to relatives in Cuba because they can't get them. Free health care that doesn't dispense aspirin and Band-Aids?
No thanks.