ABC's Bill Weir Goes Easy on Religion-bashing 'Family Guy'

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ABC reporter Bill Weir didn't exactly grill "Family Guy" creator Seth MacFarlane when he interviewed him for "Nightline's" ongoing "Seriously Funny" segment on Monday. The journalist failed to bring up some of the most egregious examples of MacFarlane's cartoon vulgarity, including a March 8 episode that featured bestiality jokes, a gay-hating Jesus Christ and an 11-way gay orgy.

Instead, Weir only vaguely alluded to such instances and asserted, "But, like those other cartoons, his shows raise the most ire with religious and parental watchdog groups. If there is a taboo line, chances are MacFarlane has leaped over it." He did read off a list of topics the show has skewered and then wondered, "Where is the line for you? Is there a line or is that the point?" Once again, however, Weir had no specifics to follow-up. Did he ask about the October 19, 2008 episode in which the program's baby character, Stewie Griffin dressed up as a Nazi and wore a McCain/Palin button? No. MacFarlane, a Barack Obama supporter and liberal Democrat, wasn't forced to talk about that particular low blow.

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At one point, after MacFarlane admitted that "Family Guy" is in terrible taste, Weir simply laughed and mildly added, "They [conservative groups] make the argument it's - with an animated show a kid going to stop the remote." More often, however, he simply allowed MacFarlane to ruminate, uninterrupted about the minor restrictions the show does operate under, such as not being able to say "Jesus Christ" as an expletive. He elaborated:

SETH MACFARLANE: If they said to me you can have one phrase that you can use that's not allowed on TV as an expletive, it would be Jesus Christ. Because I'm from New England, people go, "Oh Jesus Christ." You know, it's, it's just how people talk. And that's the most frustrating for me is that there are times when Peter has to say damn it and it just doesn't have the extra punch, as, you know, the New England guy shouting "God damn it," you know?

And this comment from MacFarlane elicited only a laugh, but no shock: "You can't say Jesus Christ as an expletive, but if you say it, and you widen to him [Jesus], you know, in bed with a hooker and then it's fine." Weir simply followed up by querying, "Do you think under a, a Democratic administration you're gonna be able to get away with more?"

A partial transcript of the April 6 segment, which aired at 11:55pm, follows:

BILL WEIR: Then there are the animation purists who dismiss his work as crudely drawn and derivative. Some hate his tangents- [Brief "Family Guy" clip] -when a story line veers off into a meaningless chicken fight. The debate has even sparked a kind of cartoon war with other shows.

SIMPSONS CLIP: If you don't want to see crude, lowbrow programming disappear from the airwaves, please call now. [Turns off TV with "Family Guy" on it.]

MACFARLANE: "The Simpsons" took a few shots at us and we lobbed one back. Really, Matt Groening is a friend of mine. I, I have nothing but warm feelings about that show.

WEIR: What about "South Park"?

MACFARLANE: They can go to hell.

[Brief "South Park" clip.]

MACFARLANE: I sense there - maybe there's some anger there.

WEIR: But, like those other cartoons, his shows raise the most ire with religious and parental watchdog groups. If there is a taboo line, chances are MacFarlane has leaped over it.

FAMILY GUY CLIP: You have AIDS. Not HIV, but full blown AIDS.

WEIR: I just started jotting some of the topics covered and some of the jokes made at the expense of paraplegics, the deaf, pedophilia, bestiality, AIDS. You've got an opera version of the Nicole Simpson murders.

MACFARLANE: Yeah.

WEIR: The JFK Pez dispenser where candy comes out of his wounds.

MACFARLANE: Yeah. Yeah.

WEIR: Where is the line for you? Is there a line or is that the point?

MACFARLANE: The, the JFK Pez dispenser I wish we had never done.

WEIR: Really?

MACFARLANE: Yeah. That, that, that was just over the line. When you're nose deep in this stuff, you're gonna cross the line occasionally.

WEIR: This board in his writer's room carries a list of topics they try not to cover too often. [Board reads: "Asians, Jodie Foster rape, blacks, Jews, Persians, logs in bathroom toilet, long hallways, gays." Underneath: "On the bubble: Mexicans, AIDS, 9/11."] But because his show is rated inappropriate for kids under 14, he is unapologetic about most of his material.

MACFARLANE: It's not like television is a God-given right. You hear the Parents Television Council raving about "Family Guy" did this, nobody is forcing you to watch this show. They say is this taste. No, it's not, it's terrible taste. That's what's funny. I mean-

WEIR: [laughs] They make the argument it's - with an animated show a kid going to stop the remote.

MACFARLANE: But, animation when it was conceived in, in, what, the '20's, it was, it was marketed to adults.

WEIR: Yeah.

MACFARLANE: And you can't hold a whole medium hostage because you think this is who it, it, it might appeal to.

FAMILY GUY CLIP: Joke about your bowels and they order in the troops Any baby with a brain could tell them everybody poops.

WEIR: What's been your biggest battle with the FCC?

MACFARLANE: Poop jokes are the single biggest offender, which is - which shocks the hell out of me. Your tax dollars at work, America.

FAMILY GUY CLIP: You'll never win by messing with the fellows at the freaking FCC.

MACFARLANE: If they said to me you can have one phrase that you can use that's not allowed on TV as an expletive, it would be Jesus Christ. Because I'm from New England, people go, "Oh Jesus Christ." You know, it's, it's just how people talk. And that's the most frustrating for me is that there are times when Peter has to say damn it and it just doesn't have the extra punch, as, you know, the New England guy shouting "God damn it," you know?

WEIR: Is it true that if you use Jesus Christ as an exclamation, you then have to show-

MACFARLANE: He has to be in the room. Yeah.

WEIR: He has to be there?

MACFARLANE: Yeah. Yeah. You can't say Jesus Christ as an expletive, but if you say it, and you widen to him, you know, in bed with a hooker and then it's fine.

WEIR: Do you think under a, a Democratic administration you're gonna be able to get away with more?

MACFARLANE: No. There's nothing to be politically gained by stepping forth and saying I'm going to be the more poop jokes on TV candidate, you know?

—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.


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Family Guy is not really that funny anymore... it had its

moments w/ Stewie, but even then it became too cumbersome and predictable to watch.  Seth does better on robot chicken than he does anywhere else...

 

The show has completely

The show has completely sucked since it was resurrected from its longest cancellation.  It's more of a Seth McFarlane political soapbox than a comedy. The South Park making fun of it hit the nail right on the head.

True those episodes concerning FG on SP are funny...

Although, I will just stream SP now via the computer commercial free...  it's gotten so bad I have to be so very desperate to occupy my time to watch it... 

You're absolutely right. 

You're absolutely right.  Family Guy was funny when nobody knew about it.  Then it got cancelled.  Fortunately for MacFarlane, it got popular in reruns and Fox brought it back.  Ever since it returned, it's been garbage.  First, it got heavy-handed and political (which is fine if, like the Simpsons, it remained funny...but it didn't).  Then it just got really boring.  Lame scripts written around cut-aways rather than good scripts bolstered by cut-aways.  South Park is superior to Family Guy in every way.  Seth MacFarlane is simply a Rat Pack poser who thinks he's intellectually and morally superior because he listens to big band music and sips Appletinis. 

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

Started out funny, now just a joke

When the series first started, the character Brian (the dog) was the one who supplied common sense and morals to the episodes (when they had any at all).

But that character, and every other character on the show, has become a typical liberal:  a gay loving, alcoholic, drug-addict douchebag who does nothing now but spout the gay-loving, alcoholic, drug-addicted liberal views of his creator.

When I saw a commercial for guests from Star Trek: The Next Generation on one episode, I figured I'd see a light-hearted parody of the Star Trek Sci-Fi genre.

Instead we got another anti-religious 'god stinks' screed from Seth via his liberal douchebag talking dog.

I've sworn off the show for good.  I strongly urge everyone else to do the same.  Put this guy out of business.  He's got tons of hollywood cash by  now - let him spend some of it paying taxes to his beloved King Obama....

Really now?

So FG was funny when it wasn't making fun of religion?

Quit lying to yourself. The show was never good. There are two kinds of people:  those that enjoy Family Guy and those who watch it every Sunday to complain about how much it sucks. 

someloudthunder ~ my two cents.

"So FG was funny when it wasn't making fun of religion?"

Yes.  Much more funnier than it is now... although this year I stopped watching, but I doubt it has changed.  Initially, it did have its moments of genuine humor w/ stewie not being so flamboyant and the commercials like "asian trix" or "he haw the next generation" bits to rope you into the show.  Now...  it just sucks. Sorry, sucks is as eloquent as I can put it concerning FG.

 

 

Actually three kinds of people

  You forgot the ones who never have watched it and probably never will.

That show draws the line at

That show draws the line at funny.  Anything funny or approaching a semblance of humor is rejected. 

Seth Is Just A Guy.

Seth is just a jerk that has a show in which he can spout his nonsense. Don't like it? Go make your own show were the family dog is basically Rush.

Hey numbnuts, I think

Hey numbnuts,

I think most of the posters already stated that they don't like it.  So, what did they do?  That's right, they stopped watching.  As i did years ago.  That's how we vote.

But,  when people like you don't like Rush what's your answer...let me guess could it be....oh a....FAIRNESS DOCTRINE.

I've always liked Family Guy and thought it was funny

..but Seth MacFarLane seems like a real swarmy jerk-off in person.  And yeah, some of the political jabs (the close up of a McCain/Palin button on a Nazi) lately are just heavy handed and too forced to be funny.

It is funny in parts

but the political humor is almost idiotic.  Of course I am a conservative so I find it ridiculous.  But as is the case with political humor from the left, they stretch their reasoning so far beyond the scope of realty that it becomes almost idiotic.  For example. they take a case of one individual (say, Larry Craig and his issue) and blow it out to mean that every Republican is a closet homosexual that hates themselves.

But when you have a dem in office who cannot fill cabinet posts due to the high number of libs who seem to not want to pay their taxes (i.e. their fair share as we have been told) they take a "nothing to see here, move along approach".  Whatever, it's his show and he can do what he wants with it.  Personally, I am pretty over it.  My new favorite cartoon?  Squidbillies!!

 

God made man, but he used a monkey to do it  -- DEVO

I don't watch The Family Guy

I don't watch The Family Guy because it seems kinda hack-ish, not very inspired. And I agree that Seth seems like the douche who's always trying to see how much he can get away with.

Hey, look...

TV is all about ratings. The more people watch, the more money they get for an ad. The more money they get for an ad, the happier the network execs are. The more happy net execs are, the more freedom you have with your show.

It's basic American free market enterprise. If no one was buying it, it would die.  The problem for the right is, a LOT of people are buying it.

So is the right now against the free market??

Nope... I just don't watch

Nope...

I just don't watch it.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Maybe you don'tt

and I don't either. But a HELL of a lot of Americans do. And that's what matters.  God bless America.

pi... Yeah well, when

pi...

Yeah well, when enough of a hell of a lot of Americans stop watching it...it will go poof...except for the reruns.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

True

No sign of that happening though, except for a bunch of bluster from the right-wing websites

→ Not me

It's like, if Olbermann, like, was like, a blogger, he could like, teach Caroline Kennedy, like how to talk.


LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

I'm prettty sure

Nielson ignores you. As do we all.

pi...Newsflash..."We

pi...

Newsflash...

"We all don't" ignore CA.

I've just been ignoring your trolling posts along with your threads.

I find them humorous myself.

WE all may not agree here at times..but CA has been here a long time, he can handle himself just fine...thank you very much...and if he wants to wade in your water that you're inviting others in...you shouldn't be so vain as to think others agree with you and the tactics you use here since you have appeared on the scene.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

be honest though pi

How quickly would the censorship police came out if they started to joke about Obama using cocaine, or Barney Frank having gay hooker sex?

He had my vote

The "censorship" police?!?!?

Who censored that horrible, HORRIBLE Fox show they tried to do in the style of The Daily Show?  They made jokes like that.

They didn't have to censor it -- nobody watched!  And if Family Guy started making jokes like that, their audience would tune away in droves.

Shawn, the only thing -- the ONLY thing -- Hollywood cares about is MONEY!If they cangrab an audience showing Jane Fonda BLOWING Barney Frank, they'll do it!

(In fact, I think South Park may already have!)

Pi

That show was horrible I'm not arguing. I'm just saying that it is a double standand. 

Do you remember the flak ABC caught when they asked the dem candidates a few tough questions.

He had my vote

→ So true Shawn

The left will smear two teenagers all over the morning shows because the girl's mom is a Republican Governor, yet not a peep about Larry Sinclair and Barry Obama in the back of a limousine.

Unsubstantiated?  One might say?

Well, let's just ask the McCain campaign worker whom the NYT was more than willing to imply was having an affair with Senator McCain.  Settled out of court, wasn't it?

There is definitely hypocrisy afoot.


LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

"Larry Sinclair and Barry Obama in the back of a limousine"

Oh puhLEAZE lol

Again

I would point you to South Park. They are MUCH harder on the left than they are on the right.  Any "censorship police" in sight?  They even won a Peabody from the lefty organization that gives them out.

Agreed about South Park

The thing is South Park is on cable and is held to different rules, I don't know of many shows on regular tv that skewers liberals as badly as conservatives.

He had my vote

So I take it

You are firmly against any part of the Fairness Doctrine?  Or any other name they might call it?

Just want to be sure - because I agree with your take on these shows.  That is, "if it sells, then the execs will keep it going and keep supporting it.". 

God made man, but he used a monkey to do it  -- DEVO

Actually the sentiment here

Actually the sentiment here is that the show sucks.  We are not liberals, therefore we don't want to ban the show because we do not like it.

Ummm.

Who said anything about banning?

"So is the right now

"So is the right now against the free market??"

No, wrong political idealogy.

SOunds like it...

If you're arguing that the nets shouldn't pursue their greatest profits.

come on now it's not that bad.

I think Family Guy is great but I can see how it may offend some people.  But if focusing on shows lacking moral fiber should be a topic of discusion the "reality" shows on MTV make family guy look G rated in comparison.

Used to be funny

Family Guy used to be funny.

Recently, while watching it with my teenage children, they even commented that Family Guy sucks and they don't care to watch it anymore. Their friends of the same age group seem to feel the same way.

Fortunately, Netflix is filling the slot on Sunday nights.

Good for Seth Macfarland

Him along with Rush, The makers of South Park and Howard Stern fight for free speech.

God bless em.

He had my vote

I Thought Socialism Was Worse Than Nazism...

Or, at least, Soviet Communism is worse than Nazism. This is something that has been bothering me since the election season: Is socialism worse than Nazism?

Isn't it true that tens of millions more have died under communism than they have under Nazism. I'm not saying Nazism is better, it is always evil because it is an ideology that promotes the murder of the Jewish population. My impression, however, is that communism is the greater of these two evils, so I was convinced that to an extent, socialism was more evil than Nazism. I don't see how a depiction of a Nazi officer wearing a McCain/Palin button, as distasteful as some might see it, is anymore different than what I kept hearing in the media about Obama being a socialist or a communist (And yes, I do say this as an Obama supporter, so I do have a little bias in it, but I still think it's a lousy double standard.)

Knowing how the radical liberal mind works (I was one of them after all), I was surprised that it took as long to make such a comparison between McCain/Palin and the Nazis because I'm aware of my less-than-worthy brethren who have compared President Bush to Hitler (Heck, I even did it myself before I grew up, smelled the coffee, and realized how insidiously I was thinking. I think my younger, teenage radical self would have tried strangling the present me by now.) It does seem to me that the conservative side can be just as thin-skinned to humor as the left can if you push the right buttons. Liberals hate jokes about race, and conservatives hate jokes about religion (some liberals hate religion jokes too if it has to do with Scientology, New Age Mysticism or Atheism. I can be self-deprecating.) All I can say is, a humorist has the hardest job in the world in trying to hit the right targets and trying to avoid a barrage of hate-mail or censorship. It's even worse for us cartoonists and animators because we have to draw pictures as well.

Nazi vs Commie

Communism has been around much longer, so while naziism was pretty damn bad, I think the overall (Communism/Socialism) is far worse.

Still, in the real term of the word socialist, we are becoming a more bloated, centralized government.  That is the issue.  And that issue started 70 years ago so this is not exactly a "one side vs the other issue".  As for us righties claiming Obama is a socialist, we could be wrong, but many of his actions are pointing specificly in that direction - from not allowing banks to pay back TARP money so they can resume normal business operations (why would he do that?) to telling those same bank CEO's that he is the only thing between them and the pitchforks.  OR, teh AIG bonuses were met with great public disdain and anger yet the bonuses for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac go out without any fanfare whatsoever (Fanni Mae and Freddie Mac are government run, AIG is a "public" yet private sector company).

As for Nazi's and the comparison to Bush, he just doesn't fit the description of the word at all. 

Suspending of habeus corpus, not following the Geneva Convention?  Torture (i.e. waterboarding???) and warrantless wiretaps - these are tossed out as arguing points all the time by the left to define the right (and Bush), yet never fully discussed.  When they are discussed it is proven that they are merely used as a tool for the purpose of political gain by the left.

Whatever - you didn't need to be preached to - I just want the facts to bear out for all parties to absorb so we can get to the truth and a solution to our current issues. We, as Americans, are all in this together.

 

UGH. I thought McFarlane

UGH. I thought McFarlane was an interesting person. His liberal leanings and acerbic derision toward Christians and Conservatives makes me no longer want to watch any of his "humor."

 A nation cannot be free without a free, unbiased media. We are not free.