"Morning Joe" host Joe Scarborough slammed the "hacks" at "The Daily Show" on Wednesday for only making fun of Republicans and giving a free pass to Democrats. Discussing a July 15 New York Times piece that described how TV comics and talk show hosts are hesitant to make fun of Barack Obama, Scarborough mocked, "I never want to hear anybody from 'The Daily Show' or any of these other shows ever saying again, 'We speak truth to power.' 'Cause you know what they do? They speak truth to Republicans."
After admitting that Republicans have made many mistakes over the last seven years, the MSNBC host continued to eviscerate the crew at the "The Daily Show" and others: " But, please, don't be subversive, because you're not. Because you're a hack. You're a hack for the Democratic Party and you only tell jokes about one side." New York Times journalist John Harwood, appearing on the program as a guest, attempted to stick up for the comics by justifying, "I don't think they are hacks for the Democratic Party. People write about what's funny to them. And the stuff that's funny to them is, is the stuff that comes out of what they see that they want to make fun of from Republicans."
Proving Scarborough's point that Stewart is no brave figure who speaks truth to power, the NYT chief Washington correspondent observed, "It's not that they are trying to serve a political agenda, it's what is it that moves them?" Scarborough rebuffed this whole line of thinking by stating, "Which means, and we all know this is the case, that on the 'The Daily Show' and other shows like this, they only have people with one world view." (For more on this double standard, my colleague Mark Finkelstein discussed the fact that Harwood was apparently unaware of hateful liberal cartoons.)
Mika Brzezinski, the resident liberal co-host on "Morning Joe," offered a not-so-vague warning to anyone who would dare crack jokes about Obama: "But my point is that there are layers of what's politically correct and layers of what potentially could incite the wrong things." She want on to boldly claim that it's simply very hard to make fun of the Democratic contender: "When have you a candidate who is black and who has a name people have made fun of and have bad information on the internet on, I think there are layers here that present really great challenges."
A transcript of the July 16 exchange, which aired at 6:38am, follows:
JOHN HARWOOD (New York Times): It's hard to be provocative and funny about your own side. It's easier to do it about the other side.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: Yeah.
HARWOOD: Same with talk radio. Talk radio is sharper when a Democrat is in power than Republicans are in power.
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: This is not about being in the tank.
SCARBOROUGH: I just-- I never want to hear anybody from 'The Daily Show' or any of these other shows ever saying again, 'We speak truth to power.' 'Cause you know what they do? They speak truth to Republicans. Republicans are funny. They have been idiots and jackasses over the past seven years. But, please, don't be subversive, because you're not. Because you're a hack. You're a hack for the Democratic Party and you only tell jokes about one side.
BRZEZINSKI: Joe-- No, this is not about being in the tank.
SCARBOROUGH: They're hacks!
BRZEZINSKI: You're unbelievable!
HARWOOD: No. Well, but hold on a second. I don't think they are hacks for the Democratic Party. People write about what's funny to them. And the stuff that's funny to them is, is the stuff that comes out of what they see that they want to make fun of from Republicans. That's what-- It's in the same way that if you are a columnist or if you are a commentator, it's much easier to whack the other side than to be sharp about your own side.
SCARBOROUGH: Oh, sure. I understand that. Which means, and we all know this is the case, that on the 'The Daily Show' and other shows like this, they only have people with one world view.
BRZEZINSKI: No, I really don't--
SCARBOROUGH: Mika, please! Mika, that is so-- Will you please--
HARWOOD: That's a fair point.
SCARBOROUGH: Will you please go back and read the article before you say anything else about this?
BRZEZINSKI: I will read the article.
SCARBOROUGH: Because you have people admitting on these staffs that they don't want to make fun of somebody because they are supporting them. That's as clear as it gets.
HARWOOD: No, no, no. They didn't say it's because they were supporting them. They were saying they weren't seeing the humor, weren't finding the humor. That's a different thing. It's not that they are trying to serve a political agenda, it's what is it that moves them? What is it that gets a joke out of them?
SCARBOROUGH: They have one world view, Mika. They have one world view at 'The Daily Show.'
BRZEZINSKI: Wow. Yes, but I--
SCARBOROUGH: Go over there some time. Go over there sometime.
BRZEZINSKI: But I really think you are missing a bigger problem here or challenge, however you want to put it, for comedy writers or for satirists, I hope I'm using the right word there. But my point is that there are layers of what's politically correct and layers of what potentially could incite the wrong things. When have you a candidate who is black and who has a name people have made fun of and have bad information on the internet on, I think there are layers here that present really great challenges.
SCARBOROUGH: You know what? Okay, Mika, just stop. Just please stop.
BRZEZINSKI: No, it's not about being in the tank. It's about being responsible.
SCARBOROUGH: Mika, just stop. Just stop. Now, hold on. Just stop with the layers B.S. Because go back over the past seven years and look at all the jokes "The Daily Show" has made about Condoleezza Rice, about Colin Powell, about Clarence Thomas. If you were black and a Republican, they have no problem making fun of you. But if you're black and a Democrat --
HARWOOD: I don't agree with that.
SCARBOROUGH: Oh, you don't-- You don't think they have made fun of Condi Rice?
BRZEZINSKI: She's been made fun of, but not for being black or a Muslim.
HARWOOD: Not that they've never made fun of Barack Obama ,either. I think there's a filter applied to them as well. I mean, you can't say there's no difference between the dominant group in society and the not dominant.
SCARBOROUGH: Have you seen the political cartoons of Condoleezza Rice as a parrot with huge black lips? Have you seen the racist--
HARWOOD: There are cartoons of Barack Obama, too.
SCARBOROUGH: Oh really? With lips out to here? Exaggerated lips?
HARWOOD: No, with ears out to here
SCARBOROUGH: Yeah, exactly. Ears are not seen, racists do not focus on ears when making fun of African-Americans.
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: This is a point.
SCARBOROUGH: I will show you, the next time you're on here, racist cartoons --
HARWOOD: From the left?
SCARBOROUGH: -- of Condoleezza Rice. No, from mainstream people. Where nobody even brought it up. Nobody was even concerned. I'll guarantee you Condoleezza Rice noticed.
HARWOOD: Show me that. I'll be surprised to see that.
—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.




















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Joe.Wanna borrow my duct tape?
July 17, 2008 - 16:31 ET by the strugglerI've seen Joe all week and I think he's had enough.He's been lighting into the Liberal Mindset all week.
I-AM-GOING-TO-EXPLODE
July 17, 2008 - 16:44 ET by SickofLibsBRZEZINSKI: Joe-- No, this is not about being in the tank.
Folks, this is why America is so great: everybody has a family member, friend, a coworker, knows someone in town, has an acquaintance, etc that EVERYONE knows is a total ignoramus.
Behold the promise that is America when a TOTAL IGNORAMUS can land a job on a major news show and not not only get paid, but compensated beyond what the average citizen could hope for in their wildest dreams.
This, my friends, is Mika B.
Good job Joe, but keep smoking those doobs before the show; you need to remain relaxed.
Welcome to the club. I've
July 17, 2008 - 18:29 ET by motherbeltWelcome to the club. I've said for months that if Mika had a different last name, the only job she would have at MSNBC would be waiting tables in the cafeteria.
As for John Harwood....this is the same JH who said he never saw the cartoon of Dr. Rice with the big fat lips, and says that's not worse than an Obama cartoon with big ears??????
We're supposed to take this guy seriously???
And now he's defending Daily Show et al by saying ...what? They're not finding the humor?
Of course not, John!! Finding humor about Obama would be akin to blasphemy to them!!
Maybe they could start with making fun of their peers who follow behind him leaving a trail of drool.
Or his workout obsession: spending 3 hours a day in the gym!! Only caveat: they have to do it without mentioning McCain!
Yeah, that'll happen.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Joe is about as much of a
July 17, 2008 - 19:43 ET by AsmodeusJoe is about as much of a conservative as say, oh I don't know, Keith Olbermann.
I hope Joe's wife has
July 17, 2008 - 16:47 ET by marpelI hope Joe's wife has already had her baby...He's been savaging the left and Mika (the resident idiot) all week and it's been a pleasure to watch. I just don't want him taking off anymore...it's getting too good!
Two thoughts: I've never
July 17, 2008 - 16:48 ET by balboaTwo thoughts: I've never heard Stewart say he speaks "truth to power" or whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.
Second, Stewart doesn't do it often, but he has made fun of Barack, even chiding his audience for being nervous about laughing, saying "It's OK to make fun of him, you know."
He claims to speak truth to
July 17, 2008 - 18:22 ET by Mr. KafirHe claims to speak truth to power all the time. I've heard him say it. And the ratio of Republican jokes to Democrat jokes is pretty damn high. He's scared of his audience, and he's a coward. Its not surprising you'd defend a fellow leftard.
"Israel and Palestine should have their countries taken away from them, put in timeout, until they can prove they can get along." - balboa, ignorant bastard, 3/17/08
Are ya' gonna slink away
July 17, 2008 - 20:01 ET by balboaAre ya' gonna slink away now, after throwing your Zing Bomb (tm)?
bal
July 17, 2008 - 20:13 ET byit's
Zing Bomb™
"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission"
If Stewart beats up Obama
July 17, 2008 - 18:38 ET by NewsbusterbrownIf Stewart beats up Obama about anything, it's going to be from the Left.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
So?
July 17, 2008 - 20:02 ET by balboaSo?
If he were balanced, he
July 18, 2008 - 05:53 ET by NewsbusterbrownIf he were balanced, he would beat up Obama from both sides.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Is it apparent to anyone
July 17, 2008 - 16:55 ET by gueinIs it apparent to anyone besides me that MikaB has not spent one ounce of intellectual power questioning her own position on anything? Or the more that Harwood countered with arguments, the more he validated JoeS assessment of the Daily Show crew? These are the kind of liberals that think themselves to be in the center.
LOL guein!! Mika and
July 17, 2008 - 17:04 ET by bassndudeLOL guein!! Mika and intellectual?? In the same sentence?? LOL!! Did you type that with a straight face?
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Good for Joe and I hope he
July 17, 2008 - 17:19 ET by bigtimerGood for Joe and I hope he does not back down...
It has been more than obvious with bias/hypocrisy with the msm and the so-called comedy shows and the late night comedians...
they do not touch Obama for the most part...
I am sick and tired of it...more than that...I am sick and tired of their pretense of not knowing it.
...they very well do
If Mika were any further in the tank she would drown.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
JOE'S BACK!!!
July 17, 2008 - 17:38 ET by iconoclastgood to see!
Really. No difference
July 17, 2008 - 18:12 ET by Cureboy675Really. No difference between The Daily Show and the Newsbusted feature on this website. One lobs the majority of jokes at Republicans, the other lobs the majority of jokes at Democrats.
You cater to your audience.
And equally funny!
July 17, 2008 - 18:31 ET by Roger the ShrubberAnd equally funny!
So you're saying "The Daily
July 17, 2008 - 18:33 ET by motherbeltSo you're saying "The Daily Show" is a liberal comedy show?
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
One is in primetime, on a
July 17, 2008 - 18:40 ET by RESTLESS 1One is in primetime, on a cable nework, that purports to be neutral. The other is owned by a blog, on youtube, that states that they combat liberal bias. See the difference now???
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
The Daily Show and the
July 17, 2008 - 18:43 ET by NewsbusterbrownThe Daily Show and the Newsbusted feature on this website. One lobs the majority of jokes at Republicans, the other lobs the majority of jokes at Democrats.
One also doesn't pretend that it's not biased, while the other one does.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
What? Its a comedy show.
July 17, 2008 - 19:01 ET by Cureboy675What? Its a comedy show. On a comedy network. This is a show that once aired a skit of President Bush and Little Richard sitting together doing a Geico commercial. I don't think they've ever touted themselves as the next "Meet The Press".
Joe Scarborough going on and on about some slogan like: "We speak truth to power"
You know what one of their previous slogans was: "When news breaks, we fix it"
Its comedy. Can we lighten up a little?
I don't see The Daily Show
July 17, 2008 - 20:45 ET by balboaI don't see The Daily Show walking around proclaiming they're unbiased comedy. If they were, 24-7, you'd have a point. TDS is "pretending" anything; it's just trying to be funny.
Bal & Cur
July 18, 2008 - 09:43 ET by dvdaughtryThis blog post offers support to exactly the opposite you two are claiming.
Instead of "thinking" and "feeling" offer some support why it's just "comedy".
Oh, and good luck with that.
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
OK. Classic
July 18, 2008 - 12:52 ET by Cureboy675OK. Classic example:
http://www.youtube.c...
dvd, offer support why it's
July 18, 2008 - 22:07 ET by balboadvd, offer support why it's comedy? Really? Provide support that a comedy show is comedy? What exactly are you expecting?
→ Daily Show
July 18, 2008 - 22:16 ET by Cool ArrowNe'er have I seen a more brutal interview than Colbert's treatment of Chris Matthews when Chris was doing the book tour.
Comedy and hard hitting citicism as has never been blended before or since.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Yes, that is what I was
July 19, 2008 - 21:56 ET by dvdaughtryYes, that is what I was asking. Prove that the comedy show is comedy.
Dude, you are a piece of work.
One more time. I will type slowly. Provide support that the comedy show is ONLY comedy. There is support above that says its more than comedy and you have an opinion that is opposite of that. Give us support why your opinion is opposite of this blog entry.
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
DVD Dude, Type at whatever speed you want, Just make sense..
July 20, 2008 - 01:03 ET bydvddaughtry, Please don't be so lazy and read all the posts while thinking about what they say. There is support for what balboa and cureboy676 write. The one that best dismisses your premise: That TDS is not just a comedy show is from crshedd - "it's a COMEDY show. which means it is NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!"
Now, more on dvd not making sense. dvd: "This blog post offers support to exactly the opposite you two are claiming." cureboy675 never wrote or claimed that TDS is ONLY a comedy show. If there's somethig cureboy wrote that the opposite is supported on this thread, please state what it was. In other words, make sense in writing about cureboys comments. balboa wrote: "I don't see The Daily Show walking around proclaiming they're unbiased comedy." The fact he wrote that would lead a reasonable person to conclude his point about "just comedy" was pretty much the same as: "it's a COMEDY show. which means it is NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!"
→ Abe
July 20, 2008 - 01:17 ET by Cool ArrowThat's funny. I guess that makes it comedy.
And therefore (by yor own assessment) is NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!
But seriously comedy is in the ear of the beholder. Michael Richards (Kramer, Seinfeld fame) would undoubtedly (though grudgingly) back me up on that.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
I think you should read the
July 20, 2008 - 12:24 ET by dvdaughtryI think you should read the thread as Cure did offer some support and understood my disposition with out a direct reply. He provided and nothing further was persued.
I was replying to Balboa who obviously needed clairification. So you please, rook, don't tell me I am lazy when you have the comprehension problem.
balboa wrote: "I don't see The Daily Show walking around proclaiming they're unbiased comedy." The fact he wrote that would lead a reasonable person to conclude his point about "just comedy" was pretty much the same as: "it's a COMEDY show. which means it is NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!"
So I am just supposed to take it because Bal said so? That is exactly what I am calling him to support.
And again, crshedd post is a "just so say so" reason. There is a whole blog here that claims it is more than a comedy show. If you think it is not anything more than a comedy show, PLEASE, provide something besides "because it's a comedy show."
Try to keep up, Rook. Here at NB we demand more than "because I say so."
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
dvd, Thanks for the clarification..
July 20, 2008 - 15:59 ET bydvd, NOW You've made it clear. You're incapable of comprehension, you can't make sense, and you don't know what your talking about, let alone how to say it.
"WTF!?!?!?!" is the only reasonable reaction to just about everything you wrote in your response to me. I could pick it apart line by line, but I'll just leave it with: "it's a COMEDY show. which means it is NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!" You really don't know what that means, do you?
""just so say so" reason" Noody knows what that means!
"Why can't we all just get along?" - Rodney King
Shakespeare was very insightful
July 20, 2008 - 18:53 ET bywhen he wrote: 'the truth is oft spoken in jest'. Plus did your line of reasoning work for Michael Richards (of course not and it should not) but according to you it should have?
you are an idiot no rather that would be insulting idiots (oh just joking, there all better)
"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission"
I'll just leave it
July 20, 2008 - 20:55 ET by dvdaughtryI'll just leave it with: "it's a COMEDY show. which means it is NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!"
Except here is support that it does take itself seriously.
Lemme know when you get something besides "because".
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
Check out John Stewart making fun of Obama.
July 17, 2008 - 18:45 ET by Biff McCainCheck out John Stewart making fun of Obama.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Morning Whiner-Joe. It's no wonder
I watch C-Span and miss the garbage on MSNBC and Fox & Jingo.
http://www.youtube.c...
"Burn that mother down." -- Jimmy Ellis
Wow! A flag pin joke!!
July 17, 2008 - 19:00 ET by motherbeltWow! A flag pin joke!!
Yeah, take that, Joe!!
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
LOL mb... What scares me
July 17, 2008 - 19:15 ET by bigtimerLOL mb...
What scares me even more with Biff and C-SPAN is I just bet he one of those in the non-intelligent phone bank club of callers that get on all three lines...
I expect no answer...I just couldn't help myself.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
"I just bet he one of those
July 17, 2008 - 19:38 ET by Biff McCain"I just bet he one of those in the non-intelligent...." --BT
I just couldn't help myself.
Yes, indeed. The fact that
July 17, 2008 - 20:32 ET by FoolicanYes, indeed. The fact that he was foolish enough to let in a typo brings into question the entire premise of his argument. Before you throw stones, BT, make sure you're not in a glass house.
A hacking cough...
July 17, 2008 - 19:13 ET by Chris Norman"New York Times journalist John Harwood...attempted to stick up for the comics by justifying, "I don't think they are hacks for the Democratic Party.'"
This is hardly surprising, as John Harwood, for all practical purposes, also functions as a hack for the Democratic Party.
McNotObama '08
Chris...
July 17, 2008 - 19:16 ET by Clear thinkerSounds like a hack attack!
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
CT, Well, it definitely
July 17, 2008 - 19:23 ET by Chris NormanCT,
Well, it definitely wasn't a hacky sack. :)
McNotObama '08
Hacky sack attack? Ok,
July 17, 2008 - 19:27 ET by Clear thinkerHacky sack attack?
Ok, I'll quit.
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
We both should. Someone
July 17, 2008 - 19:37 ET by Chris NormanWe both should. Someone could get hurt - especially if the NB crowd turns ugly.
McNotObama '08
there are layers of what's
July 17, 2008 - 19:16 ET by allamericangirlthere are layers of what's politically correct and layers of what potentially could incite the wrong things."
If candidate Obama is not allowed to be examined or criticized than how would a President Obama be treated? Perhaps like Fidel Castro, Kim Jong-il, Farncisco Franco or any dictator that the people are not allowed to criticize.
We have heard it over and over from liberals and the msm anything negative said about Obama is considered off limits, unacceptable, distasteful, racists and even dangerous to talk about.
The very PC rules set up by the libs in an attempt to protect Obama from the kind of treatment they gave to President Bush should also disqualify Obama from the Presidency. This is a democracy not a dictatorship. The people must be able to speak freely in the same way liberals can speak freely about President Bush.
The only people allowed under the PC rules that can be examined and criticized seem to be white Christian men. So I guess the liberals will have to choose someone else for a candidate and just set up a shrine somewhere for Obama worship. Of course the shrine because of separation of Church and state will have to be placed on private property.
"Liberalism is a mental disorder" -Michael Savage
allamericangirl...
July 17, 2008 - 19:24 ET by Clear thinkerI tend to look at it in a more devious manner. Anywhere you wrote "PC rules" I would have written "Commie rules". Other than that, you are spot on.
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
I would have written "Commie rules"
July 17, 2008 - 19:54 ET by allamericangirlThank you clear thinker I stand corrected
"Liberalism is a mental disorder" -Michael Savage
Obama gets hammered and
July 17, 2008 - 19:37 ET by BigSky1970Obama gets hammered and ridiculed by the left-winged jokers when he flops toward the center, other than that, it's open season on the Republicans.
it's a COMEDY show. which
July 17, 2008 - 20:14 ET by crsheddit's a COMEDY show. which means it is NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!
although daily show viewers seem to be better informed than o'reilly or limbaugh viewers/listeners. see second chart.
http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions
crshedd........
July 17, 2008 - 21:40 ET by MrShyHaha.... "informed". Yes, "informed" indeed. And the information/news/opinion source(s) that nourish these "better informed" viewers?
Well, uh duh. Let's see..... CNN, MSNBC, the NY Times, and all those "established, credible" -- but, oops, heavily left-leaning -- outlets that dominate the world of the mainstream media. This INCLUDES shows like the Daily Show, like it or not, who's comedy is severely slanted to the left, with it's liberal vantage point of all things political. And who's host devotes his last segment each night to generally serious-based interviews with usually leftist political journalists, book writers, ex-politicians, etc..
That chart is a joke, and means nothing. I even feel I'm wasting my time telling you that.
Oh, and very precious how you implore us that the show not be taken seriously, but then are compelled to boast about this silly, laughable chart favoring these suddenly beloved viewers of said show.
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
LOL and Excellent,
July 17, 2008 - 21:43 ET by bigtimerLOL and Excellent, excellent points MrS.
...as if the good ol' crrrsh is going to listen.
You know, he's the in one ear out the other type...
Hope all is going well for you...see your ads here..hope you are making some $$$ honey!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Hey BT :)
July 17, 2008 - 21:55 ET by MrShyHaha.... well, try more like "SPENDING some $$$ honey!" :p Gotta spend a lot, to eventually make a lot, I guess. But I still love capitalism, and taking my knocks/learning my lessons as I go along. I'm free to promote and spend and earn as I wish. I can fail miserably and be out on the street... or hit it big suddenly! (and at the moment, I'm just spending.... but getting my name out there and hopefully getting some exposure, at least :))
And thanks! I wanted to make a tweak to my post, so I'll do it here -- the *revised version* -- below (mainly, the Daily Show paragraph):
- - - - - - -
Haha.... "informed". Yes, "informed" indeed. And the information/news/opinion source(s) that nourish these "better informed" viewers?
Well, uh duh. Let's see..... CNN, MSNBC, the NY Times, and all those "established, credible" -- but, oops, heavily left-leaning -- outlets that dominate the world of the mainstream media...
This INCLUDES shows like the Daily Show, like it or not, who's comedy is severely slanted to the left, with it's liberal vantage point of all things political. And who's host devotes his last segment each night to generally serious-based interviews with usually leftist political journalists, book writers, ex-politicians, etc.. These viewers snuggle up in bed at 11:00 for their one last "conservative-ideology-BAD" drink... their one last reinforcement of the myths hammered home to them by the MSM throughout the day.
That chart is a joke, and means nothing. I even feel I'm wasting my time telling you that.
Oh, and very precious how you implore us that the show not be taken seriously, but then are compelled to boast about this silly, laughable chart favoring these suddenly beloved viewers of said show.
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
Right Mr. Shy - plus the difference is so small
July 17, 2008 - 22:26 ET by Dee Bunkthat it's not significant. One question could make the difference between the moderate and well informed. So the O"Reilly audience could have all answered 22 of 23 questions right and the Stewart one could have answered 15 of 23 right and they would still consider those both high knowledge. Then the moderate O'Reilly viewers could have had 14 out of 23 while the Stewart could have had 10 out of 23.
The numbers are so close that it's stupid to even compare but the whole thing is bogus and subjective anyway. Changing the arbitrary cut offs could completely change the whole picture. I wouldn't consider answering 15 out of 23 questions right to be high knowledge. That would be a D or an F in high school or College.
Hi Dee,
July 17, 2008 - 22:34 ET by RESTLESS 1Also, according to the chart above, 76% of those responding knew which party contolled congress, up 8% I believe. Could spell trouble for dems.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Let's hope so Restless!
July 17, 2008 - 22:40 ET by Dee BunkI think I may get involved in the Senate campaign here to try and unseat Durbin. It's extremely unlikely but there's a better chance of that happening then McCain winning IL.
It's so pathetic. I have no representation anywhere. I want to move to a red state.
Dee & Restless :)
July 17, 2008 - 23:26 ET by MrShyHey. Yeah, I actually was thinking of pointing this out, too, how the chart's numbers were sort of not that far off from each other, so it's almost pointless anyway. This was my initial thought, before it dawned on me that I simply had to take to task his phrase "better informed".... then I decided to fight that battle for the time being. :p
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
Mr Shy - you did a great job
July 18, 2008 - 07:28 ET by Dee Bunkwith excellent points.
Of course, "better
July 17, 2008 - 22:52 ET by BigSky1970Of course, "better informed" being subjective. The companion paragraph that explains the chart you're referring to, explains that the most informed viewer/reader/listener will always turn to the same sources of news every day, while the less informed float from one place to another. Anyone who has viewed FNC during the day will attest to the fact that FNC, MSNBC, and CNN focuses largely on tabloid trash and useless fluff. Talk radio on the other hand, during the same time, regardless of political bend, doesn't. What cable news doesn't do, despite the fact it has 24 hours from which to work with, doesn't go in depth. Talk radio, blogs, and online news sources go indepth to the point it engages the "grassroots" on certain issues, i.e., illegal immgration.
Talkers like Rush won't deny the fact they're entertainers, but they're also informing the listener. The Daily Show entertains, humorously, but John Stewart isn't interested in anything else but making his studio audience laugh at him or his right wing guests.
And it's not meant to be
July 18, 2008 - 07:59 ET by Jack BauerAnd it's not meant to be taken humoressly either. Relentlessly unfunny.
Rather's Gaffe on Morning Joe!!!!
July 18, 2008 - 07:19 ET by krendlerAnyone catch Rather's gaffe on Morning Joe? I just about spit out my coffee. Played it back a couple of times via Tivo.
Rather claimed that he has great respect for Jesse Jackson and it was Jackson who paved the way for people like Osama Bin Laden.
I SH*T YOU NOT.
Nobody bothered to correct him.
Imagine if someone had slipped up like that on FOX.
Mika was doing her usual "hmmmm...." and giggling and "Look at me looking thoughtful" thing as she shuffled newspapers off to the right, contributing absolutely nothing to the discussion. What an absolute Nothing she is. No other way to put it.
In this case, Scarborough's the hack.
July 20, 2008 - 02:18 ET bySomeone when discussing a subject that they either don't know what they're talking about or is dishonest in discussing the subject is certainly a hack. Scarborough: "you (The Daily Show) only tell jokes about one side." is totally false.
Scarborough: " They speak truth to Republicans. Republicans are funny. They have been idiots and jackasses over the past seven years." BINGO! That's by far the reason why Republicans are very much the brunt of The Daily Show's humor. The Democrats also deserve all the humor aimed at them and The Daily Show does plenty of that also. Yes, it has a liberal bias because it reflects their audience, but the idea they're hacks, or in the tank, for the Democratic Party is nonsense. TDS has NEVER claimed to be unbiased or neutral. Jon Stewart has said they don't keep a scorecard of Rebublican jokes and Democrat jokes. They're just trying to be funny, and specifically funny to their audience. Scarborough and others who think they're "hacks" for the Democratic Party should watch the program regularly. While they're at it they should watch the video of Jon Stewart on Crossfire tell the news media off. That their not doing their job, let alone well. Jon Stewart and The Daily Show do their job Very Well.
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