According to veteran ABC journalist Sam Donaldson, evangelical voters are longing for a "Christian theocracy" to rule the United States. Donaldson, appearing on the December 9 edition of "This Week," made the comment while discussing GOP candidate Mitt Romney's speech about religious faith. He also labeled the address "very, very frightening."
Responding to host George Stephanopoulos's assertion that the speech was an inversion of John Kennedy's famous 1960 address, Donaldson asserted, "That's right and that's far we've come. [Romney] talks about the public square. Now, he would say, 'I'm don't mean a Christian theocracy in the White House.' But it's getting much, much closer." Returning to the subject several minutes later, the former ABC anchor, in a slightly horrified tone, remarked, "...Talk about a Christian theocracy in this country, many evangelical Christians believe... that's what we should have, that government should favor people who have the right and understand what God wants us to do."
Donaldson also generalized about the growing threat of religion in public affairs. Without attribution or examples, he claimed, "On the floor of the Senate or the House, you hear God evoked for a tax cut or making it permanent." It was at this point that he offered his direct denouncement of the address: "But Mitt Romney's speech, I think, was very, very frightening to people, who think the encroachment into government, into the White House, or into the Congress, on religious matters, making decisions on public policy-- It's wrong."
It should be noted, however, that there was a conservative on the panel. However, columnist George Will, appearing along with ABC journalist Cokie Roberts, agreed with Donaldson's assessment that religion is taking too strong a role in modern politics.
A transcript of the key exchanges, which began at 10:36am on December 9, follow:
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Let's turn to Republicans. Mitt Romney did give his big speech on faith in America this week. He said very clearly that he would not be taking any, he would not be influenced by the leaders in his church. But then he made a turn in his speech and listen to this:
MITT ROMNEY: The notion of the separation of church and state has been taken by some well beyond its original meaning. They seek to remove from the public domain any acknowledgment of God. Religion is seen as merely as a private affair with no place in public life. It's as if they're intent on establishing a new religion. The religion of secularism. They're wrong.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Sam, we've all been talking about the echoes of John F. Kennedy. That was actually a repudiation of John F. Kennedy who, in 1960, said that the separation of church and state is absolute and that religion is a private matter.
SAM DONALDSON: That's right and that's far we've come. He talks about the public square. Now, he would say, "I'm don't mean a Christian theocracy in the White House." But it's getting much, much closer. When I first came to this town, chaplains began the sessions of the Senate and the House with a prayer.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Still do.
DONALDSON: People talked about the pledge of allegiance. Still do. And that was just fine. But now, religion has crept into public policy. On the floor of the Senate or the House, you hear God evoked for a tax cut or making it permanent. [All laugh] I think God is too busy to worry about those things. But Mitt Romney's speech, I think, was very, very frightening to people, who think the encroachment into government, into the White House, or into the Congress, on religious matters, making decisions on public policy-- It's wrong.
10:45
STEPHANOPOULOS: Look at the impact he's having right now. The cover of "Newsweek" this morning calling him "Holy Huckabee, the unlikely rise of a preacher politician." That is the cover for their new poll showing him 22 points ahead of Mitt Romney in Iowa. 39 for Huckabee. 17 for Romney. Fred Thompson, all the rest, down into, into single digits. And, George, I've talked to the Romney campaign. Now, they don't believe it's a 22 point lead for Mike Huckabee. They do believe that Huckabee's ahead right now and he's on his way, unless he can be brought down and there's plenty to bring him down with, to win this caucus on January 3rd.
GEORGE WILL: Well, 40-some percent of the Republican caucus goers are born-gain evangelical Christians.
DONALDSON: In Iowa.
WILL: They are going to vote for a man, evidently, who in 1998, in Iowa, in 1998 said, Mr. Huckabee said, he went into politics to take back this nation for Christ. Well, that is not a really sound general election position.
DONALDSON: He's running as the Christian leader. He says so in his ads. And that's just a step from saying, "I'm running as the Christian president." Well, fine if he's going to be a personal Christian. Jimmy Carter was, others have been. But it's clear that, talk about a Christian theocracy in this country, many evangelical Christians believe, although they might abandon those exact words, that's what we should have, that government should favor people who have the right and understand what God wants us to do. And that, of course, runs against not just Thomas Jefferson, but all of the history of our Founding Father's attempts to write a Constitution which prescribes that.
—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.















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Free Stinker: Sam Donaldson is an Idiot!
December 10, 2007 - 17:04 ET by Free StinkerFree Stinker: "Sam Donaldson is an Idiot!"
I want to see this guy teamed up with Alan Colmes - what a sight the two of them would be . . .
Donaldson isn't all wrong
December 10, 2007 - 17:07 ET by RJWe have people right here who talk that way...
What?
December 10, 2007 - 17:47 ET by ForeverOnTheRightWho? What was said? I have never read that nonsense here. If it’s been posted here show us please. If your correct someone needs correcting.
I don't think the theocracy
December 10, 2007 - 20:08 ET by TruthMongerI don't think the theocracy thing comes up much here, either - but it can sound that way sometimes:)...
Religion has been popping up in politics because libs have been trying to oppress it - as Romney says...
We're just reminding people about our right to evangelize in the public square - free speech - we have to do this because of the anti-Christian crusades currently in progress here...
That's why it seems to be coming up so often...
Christians have a right to vote in Christians, we have a right to vote in laws based on Christian morality - as long as we do it democratically - it certainly is our right...
Most of our laws are already that way - do libs like Donaldson understand where our government principles even come from? Free will? The right to life and liberty? Fundie Christians founded our government based on fundie Christian principles - even to the most liberal founder the idea of "gay marriage" would have given him a massive heart attack...
These people are absolutely clueless...
God! (not intended to be in
December 10, 2007 - 17:09 ET by mattmGod! (not intended to be in vain) I hate that lie!
It was Christians who created a Constitutional Republican government. It was Christians who established, for the first time in HUMAN HISTORY, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, etc. etc. and government of the people, by the people and for the people!!!
It's the Libs, like Donaldson and his lying cohorts who want a Theocracy, and they want to be the "gods" who rule over it!
So, Christians cannot vote
December 10, 2007 - 17:12 ET by dvdaughtrySo, Christians cannot vote for Christians to hold office?
I won't say that there are some who do think this way, but the majority do not want Theocracy. The majority wants the Judeo-Christian morals this country was founded on, back in the main stream.
The latter is the job of the Church, and not the government. However, it is very difficult to get things done when at every corner Christianity is labled bigoted, discriminatory, and facist.
My question why is the religion that is truely bigoted, discriminatory, facist, and wants a theocracy is absolutely catered too?
Well, for once, the rich white man is in control. --Montgomery Burns
No Sammy boy
December 10, 2007 - 17:42 ET by ForeverOnTheRight...Christians do not want a Theocracy as you fear. We just don't want your secular humanist socialist form of government that you liberals are pushing for. If anything we are pushing back and want the form of government, schools and society that the founding fathers created for us.
Overwrought
December 10, 2007 - 18:56 ET by nkviking75There's nothing like an evangelical candidate to expose the bigotry and foolishness of the MSM
WILL: They are going to vote for a man, evidently, who in 1998, in Iowa, in 1998 said, Mr. Huckabee said, he went into politics to take back this nation for Christ. Well, that is not a really sound general election position.
I've heard the phrase "take back the nation for Christ" hundreds, maybe thousands of times in a number of contexts. I don't believe I've ever heard the phrase used to advocate taking over the government, criminalizing non-Christian religion, requiring the Bible to be taught in school, or any of the overwrought nonsense people like this spew. It simply means Christians desire to see revival in which most (ideally all) Americans would receive eternal salvation through Christ, a choice each person has to make voluntarily to be valid.
The MSM is not going to stand by and let the Republicans nominate a conservative Christian. If they fail to block his nomination, they'll have the long knives out to stop him in the general election. And if he somehow gets elected, expect another 8 years just like what we're experiencing with the current president.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Sam and the rest of the athiests don't understand religion
December 10, 2007 - 19:04 ET by c5thenThey don't like it so they feel that they should be "protected" from hearing about it and that the government should be Atheistic like them. In reality the Constitution says that the Government cannot set up an "official" religion nor prevent anyone and everyone from freely exercising their religion. They don't hold any beliefs as unviolable and so do not understand those who do. The doctrine of "seperation of church and state" is a stupid interpretation of a single sentence in a single letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to an acquaintance. It has no basis in Constitutional law or even regular law. What the atheists really want to set up is not freedom OF religion, but rather their dream of freedom FROM religion.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
I wonder if Sam Donaldson
December 10, 2007 - 19:15 ET by alamojbI wonder if Sam Donaldson ever read the last paragraph of the U.S. Constitution, the one immediately before the signatories?
"...Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth..."
The Founders did not want another "Church of England" or another "Holy Roman Empire." It is clear they wanted folks to be free to believe whatever they wanted. But it is also clear that they never intended for people to be forced to be "private" about their beliefs. Otherwise, the founders would have followed the French model and tried to completely rip all friendly references to Christianity out of any official text.
I have seen no evidence that the adoption of the 1st Amendment meant things had changed in this regard from the founder's point of view. No one has shown me that the early presidents and congressmen suddenly became "private" Christians after this.
Portion of 1ST Amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...."
And by the way, I am Baptist
December 10, 2007 - 19:35 ET by alamojbAnd by the way, I am Baptist and I have absolutely no intention of voting for that Baptist preacher Huckabee. Just as my Baptist Deacon father before me did not vote for that Baptist Sunday school teacher Jimmy Carter.
Repeated his lines perfectly
December 10, 2007 - 19:20 ET by celatorSam Donaldson repeated his lines about a "Christian theocracy" perfectly, just as he was told to do. Your check's in the mail, Sammy. Another trained seal.
He's another one of the "'60's were great" goobers who got in line when told too, and sold his soul to the socialist cause. He's never had an original thought in his life.
I can't even come up with a
December 10, 2007 - 20:15 ET by motherbeltI can't even come up with a coherent comment on this. The sound you hear is me pulling duct tape off the roll, but it may already be too late....I hope I get it done in time.....
I have little if any respect
December 10, 2007 - 20:26 ET by buddycI have little if any respect for the dwarf and none for Donaldson. However, there is a significant percentage of Republicans who really don't believe in a seperation of church / state or a too dense to see that if the State get involved in religion it might not be their religion and fail to comprehend the consequences. With that said what disturbs me about the dwarf and Donaldson is their exaggeration of the percentage and their failure to point out that an even higher percentage of liberals want a socialist state and/or no military and/or 70% tax rates, elimination of free trade and/or turning over control of the County to the UN. They can't seem to think that is significant and equally if not more dangerous than the religious right.
But now, religion has crept
December 10, 2007 - 20:32 ET by fitzfongBut now, religion has crept into public policy. On the floor of the Senate or the House, you hear God evoked for a tax cut or making it permanent.
If only that were true. The only time I ever hear God, and especially Jesus, evoked is when the socialist Democrats in Congress preach about rolling back tax cuts. Just so you know, "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his need" is from Karl Marx, not Jesus. Oh, and straighten your toupee, Sammy. You're looking more and more like a Vulcan every day.
But Donaldson is right...kindof.
December 10, 2007 - 20:54 ET by InsufficientContextFirst of all, if all of these hacks that whine about "seperation of church and state" or the apparent impending theocracy were truly afraid of something untoward happening, they'd vote....Republican(or Libertarian). Evangelicals may get mouthy and annoying at times, but the conservative variety typically work on changing your heart, not your government. They may tell you that they don't like it that you're gay, but that whole limited government thing means that there will be no government funded stormtroopers kicking in your door and forcing you to de-cornhole(or whatever).
It's the religious left and their policies that a person has to be afraid of. Think of the number of times a Democrat has talked about increasing the scope of government, instituting new laws, or giving more money to some social program or another, because it's "the Christian thing to do". Pelosi on SCHIP, Obama and Hillary courting the religious vote. Liberals constantly talk about instituting government policy based on religious sentiment. And yet the "Theocratic Scaremongers" keep voting for them...
Liberals make my brain hurt. I'm going to go take a nap now.
i think they take
December 10, 2007 - 21:00 ET by audio357the seperation of church and state too far.. I always thought it was intended to keep state out of the church not the other way around??
I mean we are electing people into these offices who may or maynnot be christians..
Now have a catholic church harbor illegals who sorry but are breaking the law and libs defend that? I get so confused by which way they want us to belive and the way they do.. goodness.. what a crazy life it would be to be a liberal.. at least a rich one.. been a poor one before and i was pathetic.. geesh
honesty is the best policy... unless your running for office.
If you elect someone
December 10, 2007 - 22:14 ET by c5thenwith strong religious beliefs who lives them everyday, you get a George Washington, or a Harry Truman, or a Ronald Reagan. If you elect someone who belives that their religion is something to keep "private" and only thinks about it on sunday, you get a Bill Clinton.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
The only way
December 11, 2007 - 12:06 ET by cvgbuckeyeThe only way that Donaldson's wig could look any worse was if it came with a chin strap.
I disagree. A chin strap
December 11, 2007 - 14:43 ET by fitzfongI disagree. A chin strap would actually improve the look of the animal pelt (squirrel? sewer rat? weasel?) on his head...at least it would keep it on straight.