ABC Blames Angry, Emotional Americans for Immigration Debate

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On Monday's "Good Morning America," co-host Diane Sawyer reported live from Mexico and repeatedly blamed U.S. rage for much of the controversy over illegal immigration. After introducing a segment on the problem, Sawyer lectured, "So a lot of Americans are erupting in anger. While others say, 'Who are we kidding? It's too late to complain.'" Sawyer then opined that efforts to stem the tide of illegals, such as building a 700 mile fence, are "fueled by anger."

Sawyer continued this theme of out of control, emotional Americans into an interview with Mexican President Felipe Calderon. She informed the GMA audience that "Felipe Calderon says it's time to stop yelling at each other and face the facts." Later, she described him as "urging less emotion, more strategy." And although Sawyer found time to describe Calderon as the "new action president" and mention that he went to Harvard University, she didn't ask him about the estimated $10 billion a year illegal immigration costs American taxpayers. (Although, the host did touch on the subject in the segment's introduction.)

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To be fair, Sawyer did ask a few tough questions. She bluntly told Calderon that, since Mexicans sending money back to their home country is the second largest source of national income, it appears to be in the interest of Mexico to keep its people in the U.S. The ABC host also wondered, "Do you feel that [illegals] have a right to come into the United States?" However, many of Sawyer's queries were softballs, such as asking, "Do you still feel the fence is deplorable?" Additionally, three individuals from business organizations are briefly featured telling the audience how valuable Mexican workers are. The anti-illegal immigration perspective is only seen from unidentified shouting Americans.

The GMA anchor even found a way to bash President Bush. She noted that the previous president, Vicente Fox, publicly described Bush's Spanish as "grade school" and asked Calderon to judge the President's bilingual abilities.

On Friday, GMA previewed the blame America tone with a Claire Shipman piece that wondered if local governments were going "too far" in cracking down on illegal immigration. And Sawyer herself has a long history of giving puff interviews to world leaders. In February, she asked Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad if he used an iPod.

A transcript of the October 8 segment, which aired at 7:07am, follows:

Diane Sawyer: "We're back in Mexico City here in Zocalo Square, which is in at the center of the old part of the city, a giant Mexican flag flying above us there. By some estimates, while we talk to you today, nearly 1,000 Mexicans are making their way toward the U.S. border, hearts pounding, hoping to get to America. And who are they? They're mostly male, mostly young, and scared. Listen to the breathing. [video of someone trampling through brush with heavy breathing.] 400 a year die attempting to cross to the United States. And a surprise. Most of them, in fact, were employed in Mexico, but came to the U.S. for more money, money they'll send back. It's a huge boost to the Mexican economy. $20 million a year. And another surprise, the majority pay taxes, totaling billions Though it's estimated, it still costs American citizens about $60 a year per person to subsidize the illegals health and schooling."

Unidentified woman: "They're not American citizens. These people do not belong in our country."

Second unidentified woman: "They can't come over here and demand things."

Sawyer: "So a lot of Americans are erupting in anger. While others say, 'Who are we kidding? It's too late to complain.' Mayor Mike Bloomberg of New York says the city would, quote, 'collapse' if they were deported, and there's a report out of Washington that the apple growers there don't have workers to collect the harvest."

Rod Nilsestuen (Secretary, Wisconsin Department of Agriculture): "If you took away Hispanic labor from agriculture and from dairy in Wisconsin, we would be in crisis. There's just no two ways about that."

Donald Taylor (Las Vegas Culinary Workers Union): "Las Vegas would stop. We would stop in our tracks. They do everything from cleaning our room to serving a cocktail to cooking a meal to serving a meal to cleaning the casino floor."

John Rosenow (Wisconsin dairy farmer): "It's dirty. It's sometimes very cold, sometimes very warm."

Terry Moran: "And Americans don't really want to do that anymore?"

Rosenow: "I haven't been able to find them."

Sawyer: "And yet, fueled by anger, the U.S. is cracking down. Even building a 700-mile fence on the border at an estimated cost of $10 billion to $50 billion over the next 25 years. Will that work? What is the answer? And what can Mexico do? And those are exactly the questions we wanted to bring to the president of this country whose offices are here in the national palace. He has said that the United States can build its 700-mile fence for billions and billions of dollars and ramp up deportations, but it's not going to solve this problem. His name? President Felipe Calderon. He's the new action president with high approval ratings for his effort to combat drug, crime, and corruption. He is also a man with a graduate degree from Harvard University, who thinks the U.S. approach to illegal immigration is doomed. What are you going to do about illegal immigration into America? Felipe Calderon says it's time to stop yelling at each other and face the facts."

Felipe Calderon: "It's impossible to stop that by decree. It's impossible to try to stop that with a fence. Why? Because the capital in America needs Mexican workers. And Mexican workers need opportunities of jobs. Capital and labor are like right shoe and left shoe, and one needs the other."

Sawyer: "Do you feel that they have a right to come into the United States?"

Calderon: "No. What I think is it's impossible to stop that. It's natural. It's an economic phenomenon."

Sawyer: "So, it's inevitable? It's not a question."

Calderon: "Yes, it's inevitable. It's not a question of--"

Sawyer: "Illegal or not. He even mentioned that apple harvest crisis in Washington State."

Calderon: "The people of Washington State say that the apples of Washington are the best of the world. And probably, that is true. Well, this year, those apples are still in the trees. And the problem is there is not enough Mexican labor or Mexican workers in order to work in the fields."

Sawyer: "It is said in the United States that the 20 billion or so remitted from illegal workers in the United States to their relatives here in Mexico is very important to the Mexican economy. It's the second most important source of income to the Mexican economy. Therefore, it's in the interest of Mexico to keep them in America and get the money."

Calderon: "That is absolutely false. You know, Mexico is losing with every single Mexican crossing the border. Why? Because it's the best of our people, the youngest people, the bravest people, the strongest people. That's a false argument. I don't want to see Mexico as a permanent provider of workers to the United States. I want to build a conditions [sic] in Mexico to provide the opportunities here in our land."

Sawyer: "So can you keep the what, three to 400,000 a year, can you keep them here? Can you keep them from coming to the United States?"

Calderon: "I will try to do so in the future. Of course, it's impossible do now. It's impossible to stop, I don't know, 300, 000 or 400,000. Nobody knows exactly how much people are trying to leave the country. But in the future, I can imagine a Mexico with enough economic growth in order to provide for all of them, enough condition said for prosperity. And that is possible, Diane."

Sawyer: "He says he's already created 900,000 new jobs. And, he says, this is an irony. With the declining birth rate in Mexico and new opportunities here, in a decade, the problem of illegal immigration could be over and the U.S. will be left with a long, expensive fence. Do you still feel the fence is deplorable?"

Calderon: "I think so. Yes."

Sawyer: "And to deport?"

Calderon: "Every country and government has the right to apply the law in its territory. I know that. But at the same time, I can see that the world is open, new ways, new bridges. And we are building fences instead of bridges. And that's a problem. That is a problem for a region."

Sawyer: "President Bush, What do you think of him?"

Calderon: "Well, I know that there are a lot of mixed feelings about President Bush. But I really appreciate him and I appreciate his effort in order to pass a comprehensive immigration reform in the Congress. He failed. We failed. I don't know, but I really appreciate it."

Sawyer: "We ask about something that the former president Vicente Fox wrote, that when he met Governor George Bush, Bush's Spanish was grade school. [Video and audio of Bush speaking Spanish.] How is his Spanish?"

Calderon: "Well, I have -- I can't give you an opinion about that because even my English is really poor."

Sawyer: "And this Harvard graduate student says America and the Latin communities will be stronger if they work together against giant competitors like China. Urging less emotion, more strategy."

Calderon: "The world is changing. The United States is not the center of the world. Both sides of the border need to learn to see each other like allies and probably in the future, as a friend. Friends. I think that it's important. My point is we need to stop this destructive message in media, in politics, in the economy, looking on only enemies on the other side of the border. I hope that one day the people in America can see the Mexican people like friends, like allies for prosperity."

Chris Cuomo: "Very thoughtful answers there. Diane, let me ask you, for all of this talk of keeping immigrants out of the country, this morning, this weekend, all of this talk about the U.S. government trying to get more farm workers into the country. What do you know about that?"

Sawyer: "Well, that's why the president of Mexico says there should be some streamlined guest worker program with controls over what the immigrants do. Because by some estimates, three quarters of the agriculture workers in America are illegal immigrants. And there's always that cautionary tale of the town up in New Jersey that got rid of all of the illegal immigrants and a year later had to turn around because of economic impact and invite them back in. But, You know, Chris, in the next hour, we're going to talk about another component of all this. Americans are not used to Spanish being spoken everywhere in their country. Should there be laws about English? And we're going to be tackling that one too."

—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.


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Well, then...

If it's inevitable that all the Mexicans will eventually come to the United States (it's economic, we are told) why not simply annex Mexico and add all their provinces as States? Would not that solve the probelm? They will then all be US citizens and can pay their fair share of taxes to support this great country that they all want to be a part of.



The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Fred08.com

If you want America to

If you want America to become a huge third world nation, then that's the way to go.  With an estimated 12 (yeah, right) to 20 milion illegal aliens already in the US (and possibly much more), many cities, especially in the Southwest, are finding it impossible to cope with the overflow.  What will happen when all of Mexico is added to that number?

You don't grow the economy by importing massive amounts of poverty.

Dutch

Not too late to Complain....

It's not too late to Secure the borders.

It's not too late for erupting in anger...as Congress discovered

Illegal immigration is not "natural"

Building a Fence is NOT Deplorable...

and Diane....Hey, Sawyer !!!....Quit interviewing Mexicans...unless they speak Spanish, and you speak Spanish in the Interview. 

Interview an American, and ask Them if they think the Fence is "Deplorable".

We have the ability to Secure the Border, stop the immigration, and identify anything crossing the border using Technology that isn't being used....which includes a high Tech Fence.

With our military, we can Secure the border such that a Dung beetle pushing a Armadillo turd needs a permit from Nancy Pelosi for increasing the Pile of "Crap" coming into California and out of ABC.   

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

Typical bogus Leftist

Typical bogus Leftist debate tactic: 

Those who hold opposing views are angry, or have some other character flaw. Why do they use this technique?  Simple: Because their arguments have no merit.

Diane, the key word here is ILLEGAL! 

"When logic and facts fail, use demagoguery" - Liberal debate maxim.

Did she ask why it is a

Did she ask why it is a felony to illegally immigrate TO Mexico? Did she ask why local Mexican police are required by law to assist the Federales in immigration control?  Did she ask about the 47 Mexican Consualtes inside the US who it appears are about to increase their spending assisting illegals in breaking the law?

 http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/05/sovereign-nation-or-sanctuary-nation-mexican-consulates-step-up-meddling-in-us-politics/

 

We need a Republican leader

We need a Republican leader to introduce a bill that would put a moratorium on any new Mexican Consulates being built in the U.S.    Even if it did not pass, it would help draw attention to the extent of Mexican Government involvement in Reconquista thru their 47 Consulates.  Something the media is trying to ignore.  This article is about two years old, its only gotten worse.

http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_4_mexico.html

alamojb,


We need a Republican leader....

That would be nice, but at this point, I'll settle for a conservative leader, if that is what it takes to shut down the stinking border.

The republicans have had seven years to do it, and they have failed.


When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.
-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.

Agreed.  I keep forgeting

Agreed.  I keep forgeting that Republican no longer means Conservative.  I keep thinking I will vote for Tom Tancredo or Duncan Hunter in the primary.

Mexican ICE Agents

There was a story a while back about either the Border Patrol or ICE giving badges to these Mexican Consulates - because it was such a hassle for them to get around because of the post-9/11 increased security. In fact, they went into a jail and depended successfully that some illegals they had be released to their custody after presenting these badges.

Indoctrinate-U 

Our Education. Their Politics.

She is...

...the biggest phony of a correspondent. She's up there (down there?) with BaBa Walters on The "Leftist" View.

Yo Diane...and all your

Yo Diane...and all your ilk.

STHU!

You can talk til you are blue in the face...all of you, but both sides of the aisle have had their fill of ILLEGAL aliens/immigration...you are not going to be able to help your candidates in any way shape or form when it comes to this and I know that is why you are all attempting this over and over and over...not one of your candidates have been grilled hard about this issue yet, just the question about Sanctuary Cities by Russert that I recall and every single one of them were for them!

They are in BIG trouble if we have someone make illegal immigration one of their TOP MAIN ISSUES...and YOU know it.

So yap all you want, it will not change a thing...the majority of people are past fed up here. Period.

If you took away Hispanic labor there would be a recession

This is true only because of the welfare nation we live in. Democrats destroy the American work ethic, so they have to bring in new unspoiled people.

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Diane Sawyer and "angry Americans"

While interviewing the Mexican President, why

didn't sweet Diane ask him why Mexico can't

fix the problems of their country.   Why can't

they learn from Americans and use our values

and technology, and democracy in their own

country so that their citizens don't have to leave

their  country.  If they had the right leadership

they could stop the  exit of their population.

Why do we have to support their corruption.

 When our tax dollars are being spent on

illegality, she's right, we become "angry"

Americans for a good reason.   Hey Diane you

donate some of your money "real good." 

You have a good life, plenty of money, etc. etc.

so you can call anyone anything you want.  

Lets take more out of your salary and send it to

the Mexican people and see what you have to say

then.

Scott - $10 bill/yr?

Scott. Interesting. You referenced a 2004 Washington Post piece that reported that a report suggested that illegal immigration is costing the US $10 billion a year. I just read a report that illegal immigration is costing the county of Los Angeles $1 billion a year -- just in entitlement services.An article in the LA Times, a few years suggested that the cost to the state budget of CA alone is around $10 billion a year - or about 10% of the budget (then). Where do they come up with these little numbers? In fact, I think that the estimated cost of a recent senate bill on immigration had a price tag of $126 billion. And that would be after the "what they are costing us a year."

The MSM's continued effort to redefine the truth and logic and the cost, is what is making me "angry and emotional." Are you listening, Diane?

Diane is right. We are angry (Actually, we're mad as hell)

Well, at least in my case, I am mad as hell, anyway. I am fed up with an allegedly "conservative" Republican Party (and I am including George W. Bush here) that is anything but conservative. These empty suites had nearly SIX FRIGGIN" YEARS to close the southern border, and they have done NOTHING, other than help pave the way for Hillary the Hideous' waltz into the WH in Jan. of '09.

And yes, we are also emotional, as most of us dearly love this country and have no illusions about its ultimate fate if this illegal allien invasion isn't soon halted.

Wake up, people! "Conservative" and "republican" are no-longer synonymous, and haven't been since the late '90s.

When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.

Right to be angry

Americans have every right to be angry and emotional. Don't you think Mexicans would be angry if Americans were illegally invading their country? Don't you think Mexicans would be angry if their government was doing nothing to prevent it?

This is one issue I side

This is one issue I side with the Left on. I think it's pointless to build a fence across the border. The flood of illegals is just that... a flood. Dam up a flood and eventually the water runs around the sides or over the top, and that's exactly what's going to happen with any fence we put up. If the vast Pacific Ocean can't stop illegals coming from China, I don't see a fence stopping Mexicans. Where there's a will, there's always a way.

As for taxpayers funding healthcare and school, I don't see how this situation is going to be helped. The fact is we need this low-end labor. Even if we deported every illegal, and had them come back in legally, we're still not talking about high-salary paying lots of taxes coming here... we're talking poverty-level workers who will still require us to pay for their healthcare and schools AND also get Earned Income Credits that the aren't getting now.

The only thing keeping Social Security afloat is that all those millions of illegals pay into the system but can't take benefits out.

Illegals work for peanuts and are terrified of getting deported, so they don't complain. What impacts to low-income businesses will there be when these folks are free to unionize and demand this and that?

The way I see it, illegals wouldn't be here if there weren't any opportunity. The fact that they are here shows that they are needed and put to work. Are they taking work away from Americans? Yes, but I don't see Americans breaking down the doors to get these jobs. Our kids are taught in school that they are better than anyone else, that the "Ditch Diggers" of the world are anyone but them, so it's no surprise they don't care to put in long hours for low pay. They all think they're the next Madonna, Bill Gates, or Kobe Bryant.

I drive past a couple of day-labor sites each day, and every morning there's a dozen or two Mexicans standing there waiting for some contractor to pick them up. I then go through the poorer black neighborhoods on the Northside, and see countless young black men sitting around. The former can't speak English but know how to work, the later speak English but can't say anything but "there's no jobs!" Personally, I'll back the Mexicans.

Immigration Laws...

... and what other laws should we also ignore? 

Indoctrinate-U 

Our Education. Their Politics.

Speeding, anti-gun laws in

Speeding, anti-gun laws in NYC and Washington, DC, PIP laws in Florida, anti-copy laws for MP3s, affirmative actions laws, pretty much all laws enacted by Liberals...

That's crazy talk! P.S. I

That's crazy talk!

P.S. I don't think liberals are behind immigration laws.. I mean the ones to prevent illegal immigration.

Indoctrinate-U 

Our Education. Their Politics.

I'm somewhere inbetween Bruzilla and the rest of you

I think you can't start prosecuting all of the sudden for something that has been effectively allowed for many years. The laws on the books weren't reasonable or enforceable and it's not the fault of the illegals. They can't start checking everyones ipod and throwing them in jail for years on 1,000's of counts of stolen music when they never enforced before. Had they then teens wouldn't be risking it 1,000 times or more.

The only way to make it reasonable is to build a fence to help better patrol areas and have a guest worker program. It has to be enforced through employers because there are too many people to keep track of. If they start providing stiff fines for employers who don't use documented guest workers then workers will force their employees to get documented. You have to allow amnesty or it won't work because no one will comply. Employers don't want to hire all new people or send faithful good employees that they have come to know to jail.

We have ignored our immigration laws for so long that they are effectively not laws. It has to start with everyone having a clean slate or the problem will never be solved.

The answer to the problem,

The answer to the problem, if it is a problem, is not to build a fence but get rid of the employment opportunities. And to get rid of those you need to seriously punish employers. The problem is that there are lots of folks who are very good at making fake credentials, and how do you punish employers who are taken in by fake documents?

My opinion is that instead of wasting $10-$50 billion bucks on an ineffective fence, let's take a small portion of that money and use it to upgrade the Social Security computer system so it's able to immediately inform an employer when a fake or duplicate SSN is being used. That much cmaller expense would be a far more effective deterrent than any fence.

You still need fences to because of terrorists

And you need to make it easier to comply with the law (guest worker) than to go around it.  People who come here to work will get documented because it's in their benefit and those who don't are more likely to be criminals and terrorists. It will make those people a lot easier to spot.   

"The answer to the problem,

"The answer to the problem, if it is a problem,"

Yeah, it's no problem that illegal immigration costs California alone $10.5 billion each year, or, according to the article below, $1,183.00/household.  If that's not a problem, do you consider anything a problem in the world today????

Source: http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm

Dutch

 

Build the fence.

Build the fence.

So... what's plan B after

So... what's plan B after the fence is built and we discover that our $10-$50,000,000,000.00 effort isn't stopping the illegals because it can be breached with a $40 ladder?

Brazill...plan B is ...

How many Tons of Drugs can you carry up a 40$ ladder over Razor wire and a 15 Foot drop ?

Ask Duncan Hunter, because it worked in San Diego on the Border....the Fence worked, it's NOT an EXPERIMENT !!

An unreported experiment that worked, I might add..... 

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

Border Guard Dogs

We can add German Shepherd attack dogs on the our side of the fence. ;-)

We'll think of something. We're very creative when we need to be.

Free smelly...so, how about this...

How many Tons of Drugs can you carry up a 40$ ladder over Razor wire and a 15 Foot drop to a waiting pack of German Shepard attack dogs  ?

 

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

I think that would be zero

I think that would be zero divided by zero ;-)

 

But I do think that some of the NM/Arizon stretches of unfenced border should be home to a new Air Force bombing range. Most people think I'm kidding about that.

I'm not.

 

Although if I was mean, I would have ground beef catapults aimed at anyone climbing over the wall, just to prep them for the dogs below. ;-)

The truth is that there's

The truth is that there's only been one example of a fence that's been even marginally effective, and that was the Berlin Wall. And that wall was only effective because you had a very real threat, and use, of deadly force to deter breaching.

For our border fence to be truly effective, you need to have guards, guns, and mines, and there's no politician alive that's going to stand before the cameras and explain pictures of women and children blown up or shot to pieces on the news.

I heard the Great wall of

I heard the Great wall of China was very effective and then there is the Korean DMZ with its scorched earth between fences and military on each side.  If we start shooting those who try the fence Im sure there would be a huge drop in 40 dollar ladder fixes.  Besides the fence envisioned is more tahn just one fence and is a set of fences and barren areas.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

See, here's the problem.

See, here's the problem. German Shepherds are not attack dogs. They only go after something they feel is a threat to their "herd". No threat = no agression. What you would need is some ornery pit bulls.

Now, if I were a drug dealer in that situation, I would toss over my haul of drugs, then a bag full of meat. Then I would clamber over the fence and walk right past your guards while they're fighting each other over dinner. Bon appetite!

No, the fence didn't work.

No, the fence didn't work. All that it did was get illegals to look for the next path of least resistance. They just moved on until the fence ended. So, you get the 700 miles of fence completed, and the whole border is fenced in, then what? Now the path of least resistance is over the fence, or back up a couple of old pick-up trucks, throw some grappling hooks over the top of the fence, and pull it down. Hunter's fence was only a slight inconvenience, and it did nothing to stop the flow... it just diverted it.

Hmmmm....maybe this is

Hmmmm....maybe this is where a good electric fence would come in...with a deep canal of sorts on both sides full of croc's that are in supply.

Plus more border guards with guns they CAN use and some type of sensors/video.

Imprisoner the employers..

.. that employ them. No jobs - no problem. 

Indoctrinate-U 

Our Education. Their Politics.

I agree that that's a good

I agree that that's a good idea, and much better than building that stupid fence. And if it costs too much to keep the employers in prison, we can hit them with a fine that's equal to all the accounts receivable their business brought in while the illegals were employed.

Got the perfect candidate for you, Bruzilla

Christopher Dodd, candidate for POTUS, said as President he would ignore federal immigaration laws. 

Apparently, swearing that he would uphold the Constitution and the laws of the land don't mean anything to this United States Senator.   After his treasonous call to ignore the laws, no reaction, no outcry...

Why would there be any

Why would there be any outcry? How many of us go out and check the immigration status of the lady who cleans our hotel room? The guy who tends our yard? The kid who serves us at McDonalds? Who among us demands that their grocer provide proof that his/her produce was picked only by legal Americans? Now compare that number to the number of people who shop price and only yell when prices go up.

The truth is most of us want the benefits of getting rid of the illegals, but are really clueless about what the impacts would be. There's a reason why politicians ignore immigration laws, and that's because they have a much better understanding of the impacts than most Americans do.

Um, Bruzilla that was both nonsensical and non-responsive

Non-responsive:  The outcry should have been for a U.S. Senator advocating that U.S. citizens disregard the law, and stating that he intended to do that, too...in open disregard of his oath of office.

Nonsense:  How comforting it must be to assume the rest of us aren't as informed as your almighty self.   I understand very well, thank you, what the impacts would be if we "got rid" of the illegals.   There's many benefits, but a major one is that they wouldn't be driving down wages. 

And politicans aren't ignoring immigration law because they have a better understanding than the rest of us. They ignore it because they've bowed to political, monetary, and business interest pressures.

Thanks, anyway, for trying to teach me "the way of the liberal progressive."

Duh !!!

Duh !!!   This is a non story.  She's correct.  People are angry when they watch their country slide into third world status. The American welfare state is showing results. We are a magnet for Mexico and Latin America's poor. The Dems. want the future voters,  and the Republican business interests want cheap labor. The rest of us will pay the price. Yes, we're angry. Se habla espanol.

Outside of a dog, a book is  man's best friend.  Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --- Groucho Marx

Somehow I can't help but

Somehow I can't help but picture you as a third generation American standing there with your family at the Statue of Liberty while on vacation, looking at Ellis Island and seeing the hords of Eurotrash immigrants and saying "I'm angry as I watch my country slide into third world status."

You're right, I am third

You're right, I am third generation. My grandparents were Eurotrash immigrants.  However, by the second generation English was learned, education accomplished, and we were full fledged Americans.  The old country was remembered and respected, but there was no desire to move back. The break was final.  My grandparents were also here legally and became citizens. The problem now is ILLEGAL immigration. Assimilation is not taking place. In many parts of the country Spanish is heard more than English, and we're not talking about parts of cities. The next time you're in a major department store look at the sinage and packaging. Everything is in English and Spanish, not French, German, Italian, Chinese, etc. Spanish TV, radio, and a government unwilling to make English necessary will result in a Balkinization of the country. Many employees, public and private, are required to know Spanish. This is not assimilation. We are watching the nation change before our eyes.  If your legal, come and be a success. Remember, you are joining us and not the other way around.

 

Apples - a lot of poor folks in NOLA need a job.

Apples - a lot of poor folks in NOLA need a job. Gov. Blanco should do what Calderon is doing.

¿Quién el infierno ella

¿Quién el infierno ella piensa ella es?

What does Bush's Spanish level have to do with anything?

How does her damn opinion supercede that of our country's will?

More stupid news media socialistic garbage fed crap.

These are the same people who are spitting on our military and endorsing the gov commies who's goal is to eliminate EIB, Hannity, Levin, and these blogs.

JDW

Sen Clinton: Founder of Media Matters

 

Happy Columbus Day

Where are the posts and comments to support the liberal point of view of this survey.  Come on ABC...I don't buy it.  People are sick and tired of "PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH".  An overwhelming majority of people want our culture to remain in tact.  We don't care if you are hispanic or black or muslim or asian or white.  It is forcing other cultures on the American way.  Have you ever noticed that ours is the only culture that can be trampled on.  Happy Columbus Day by the way...I am at work since this is not a politically correct holiday like Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday!

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Immigration Laws

She should have ask him about Mexico's immigration laws, much harsher than ours. http://www.californiaconservative.org/?p=2879 Or try to be an American who is found with one round of ammunition, Mexican police can arrest you even for just having a bullet in your car. More than 130 American citizens were arrested last year for bringing weapons and ammo into Mexico. Strangely enough, Mexicans are allowed to bring up to 3 weapons and a thousand rounds of ammo into the US. http://www.bootsnall.com/articles/01-08/10-tips-for-crossing-the-border.html. Or perhaps they could have discussed Americans being killed by druken illegals http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55965 Maybe she could have asked about all the trash left in our wonderful Sonoran Desert http://www.desertinv...

I work as an ER nurse in a Tucson hospital and am tired of the surprised look on the faces of Mexicans when I tell them they need to speak English, I do not speak Spanish. We have already lost one trauma center here-the cost of treating illegals drove them to drop that coverage.

 

DevilDoc... I bet you

DevilDoc...

I bet you could write a book full of important information about all of this subject since you live it and know what happens in the hospitals...you must get furious at times.

Way too often...

From the social worker who sent the pregnant illegal down to the ER "to have her seen and for all tests ie sonogram". She was here because the father of her baby was in our hospital, he was illegal also. BTW since she had no complaint we did not treat her, we referred her. We do follow EMTALA guidelines to the letter.

The there are the family members who just drive up from Mexico with their very ill relatives just for care here...read that FREE care.

Or the illegal families who will not even buy the basic medicine (tylenol) for their child because we will give it to them for FREE.

The illegals who show up for the birth of their child...no prenatal care.

Often the docs do more testing on the illegals to CYA...even tho' they never pay they sure can sue.

Or the ones who complain they had to wait only because they are Mexican... been in an ER lately? No matter how hard we try, at times you must wait.

I love the ER, but it does become frustrating at times.

 

kw - it works like this..

kw - it works like this.. as you know, I'm sure.

Yesterday's lead editorial in the LA Times:

 Against a national ID -Americans, rightly, have always resisted the idea of a national identification card. Why change now?

Funny how they present their agenda, isn't it. One reading it, might quesiton what they thought to be the truth - that most of us have long supported, and still do, a national ID card of some sort.

A quick look at the polls:

In a UPI/Zogby poll of 5,932 adults, conducted from April 13-16, 2007, 70 percent of Americans support the REAL ID Act, which would require states to issue driver licenses and identification cards that conform to federal standards in order to have those cards recognized by the federal government. Only 24 percent were opposed to the act. And in a USA Today/Gallup Poll, conducted March 2-4, 2007,  "As you may know, the government is considering issuing new tamper-proof Social Security cards as a way for people to prove they are eligible to work in the United States. Would you favor or oppose requiring people to show this card in order to get a job in the U.S.?" 86 of Americans supported and only 10% opposed.

The LA Times had another more fitting choice for the wording in the byline:

"Why Americans are wrong and we are right, on the issue of a national ID card."

 

 

Yes Diane I'm angry. I'm

Yes Diane I'm angry. I'm angry that the feds haven't done the job they are being paid for, protecting the country. This means securing our borders. I'm also angry that I'm practically the only one around my neighborhood that speaks English. And I'm especially p!ssed-off that the leftist MSM is always at war with the U.S. and is supporting law-breaking criminals.

Diane, stay in Mexico.

"Fueled by anger"? Damn

"Fueled by anger"? Damn right it is. The majority of Americans get angry at anyone that can get away with breaking our laws.

Someday, somewhere, someone is going to sue the government at the local, state and federal level. This person will have been arrested and found guilty of some sort of charge, then claim the government has lost all right to charge him because the government has shown a long standing history of not enforcing it's own laws ie: illegal immigration. 

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Two issues that Diane

Two issues that Diane failed to address at all:  Why was it that Mexico could not create enough jobs for it's own people?  How is it that having the example right next door of how to create a business friendly environment which enriches all it's people that the Mexicans failed to adopt those same measures when their very own people began voting with their feet at the incompetence of their government?  So Diane why didn't you ask the basic questions a journalist is supposed to ask?  Next time Diane why don't ask us for some though provoking questions instead of throwing softballs for Calderone?  Here is the same issue that our silver spoon Repubs (non conservative) also failed to ask and suggest to our neighbors:  Why are you not adopting pro-growth policies to employ your people?  Why do you continue to insist on self defeating laws that stiffel foreign investment?  

Second issue, is this nonsense that our apples won't get picked.  As long as business interests can avail themselves of cheap labor they will, when they can't anymore they will do what all American businesses do: innovate and automate.  By your own admission in 10 years you forsee a labor shortage in Mexico due to the drop in birthrate.  That means two things, one -  the sooner we automate the better while we have time and two - as long as there is such a wage and living standard disparity, your people will want to leave Mexico.  Get your act together, start serving your people and stop making excuses for failure.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity

"This is one issue I side

"This is one issue I side with the Left on. I think it's pointless to
build a fence across the border. The flood of illegals is just that...
a flood. Dam up a flood and eventually the water runs around the sides
or over the top, and that's exactly what's going to happen with any
fence we put up. If the vast Pacific Ocean can't stop illegals coming
from China, I don't see a fence stopping Mexicans. Where there's a
will, there's always a way."

The problem with your analogy is that water has no choice but to continue. People, on the other hand, do have choices. Make it harder to come here, and many will choose not to come. Also, ask Israel how well fences work. Ask prisoners at any of our prisons how well fences work. Ask the East Germans how well fences worked during the Cold War.

If you're argument is that fences are a waste of time because they won't stop every illegal, then there is no point in doing anything, as nothing will stop every illegal. As you said, where there's a will, there's a way. Perhaps we should just do away with our laws against murder as well, since not every murder is prevented by having them. Heck, we should probably just do away with our police force in general, since they don't prevent every crime, nor do they solve every crime. What a waste they have turned out to be.

Fences DO work. To argue differently is to deny reality. Why do you think the Mexican president opposes the fence so strongly? Will it stop every illegal? Of course not. But if it stops 75% of them, that is a success.

Furthermore, no one is arguing for just a fence. Combine the fence with other changes within the country, and we could solve this problem, ultimately forcing Mexico to solve their's.

 

I agree

Also make sure our goverment doesnt try to backdoor anyone.I hear on Fox where they were lowering the restrictions for visas.It was earlier in the morning so forgot what show it was.Sometimes I wonder who the goverment works for.The politicians and the media have no concept or just dont care that Americans want the same right as any other country.A right to control our borders..north and south.Also fine and imprison those that hire illegals.Hit them hard in the wallet and let them serve time.If farmers need workers..no problem use prisoners that committed non violent crimes.Thier choice but give them incentive.Prisoners would be allowed to earn wages after cost of guarding them.Put it in a account for them to get when they leave the pen.

Just a note as I understand it they will use a dual fence a long the border.Well if they put cactus,poison ivy and thorn bushes inbetween them it'll definately will make the ones easier to identify.Look for the folks with calamine lotion all over them.