ABC Frets: Local Governments Going 'Too Far' Against Illegals?

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On Friday's "Good Morning America," reporter Claire Shipman fretted over the fact that local governments are aggressively fighting illegal immigration. An ABC graphic worried, "Crackdown on Illegal Immigrants: Have Communities Gone Too Far?" Discussing the efforts by a Texas town to stop the influx of illegals, Shipman claimed, "...Neighbors suddenly find they can't help themselves. The immigration debate exploding without the niceties." She also lamented the tone of the debate, saying that since the defeat of the Senate immigration bill, "...What had once been a lofty political debate has now become a gritty, explosive reality."

At no point did it occur to ABC to wonder if illegals had "gone too far" in breaking American laws. Rather, Shipman highlighted sympathetic stories of terrified immigrants. She asserted that in the small town of Irving, Texas, "Latino parents have grown so nervous, they're keeping their kids out of schools." The GMA reporter also talked to an anonymous illegal immigrant in Virginia who recounted the ordeal of having a child who "comes home and asked me, 'Why do they hate us?'"

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Additionally, GMA alerted viewers to a special edition of "Good Morning America" that will air on Monday, October 8. Co-host Diane Sawyer will be in Mexico to do extensive reporting on that country and illegal immigration in general. She will be interviewing Mexican President Felipe Calderon and promised to grill him with tough questions about immigration and controlling the borders. However, considering that this is the same reporter who asked Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad about what songs he has on his iPod, viewers could be forgiven for having some skepticism.

A transcript of the October 5 segment, which aired at 7:14am, follows:

ABC Graphic: "Crackdown on Illegal Immigrants: Have Communities Gone Too Far?"

Chris Cuomo: "Let's go now to the crackdown on illegal immigration. All over America this morning, a debate is raging about the best way to address this crisis with millions of people calling on the federal government to get tough on illegal immigrants. But how they are getting tough is raising questions as well. GMA senior national correspondent Claire Shipman joins us live now from Washington. Good morning, Claire."

Claire Shipman: "Good morning, Chris. Here's what's happening, why you're seeing so many dramatic headlines. When immigration reform efforts failed, federal law enforcement agencies decided they would start enforcing the laws on the books. Local government, local law enforcement, they've been coming up with their own solutions. And so what had once been a lofty political debate has now become a gritty, explosive reality. Irving, Texas--"

Unidentified man: "Obey the laws of this country!"

Shipman: "--where neighbors suddenly find they can't help themselves. The immigration debate exploding without the niceties."

Doris Shields (Texas resident): "That's a bunch of bull over there that we even allow them to march on our land when they're here illegally!"

Dan Stein (President, Federation for American Immigration Reform): "It's political dynamite. People are saying we've had enough. We can't take it anymore and if the federal government doesn't get serious about it, we're just going to do the job ourselves."

Shipman: "But lately, the federal government has been trying to prove it can get serious. In California, a staggering immigration sweep. 1,300 illegal immigrants arrested. In Nevada, crackdowns at McDonald's restaurants. In New York, the aftermath of a dead-of-night raid that took this woman's husband. 'Get used to it,' says the Homeland Security boss. He thinks immigration reform might be better but--"

Michael Chertoff (Secretary of Homeland Security): "I think we have an obligation to use the tools that we do have at least to achieve what the law currently requires."

Shipman: "And in Irving, like many places around the country, the locals aren't waiting for the feds. Police are turning over anyone they arrest who turns out to be an illegal immigrant. Latino parents have grown so nervous, they're keeping their kids out of schools."

Crystal Chacon (Texas student): "Oh, we're just scared of going out, just because we look Hispanic, they're pulling us over."

Shipman: "Indeed, this man is so frightened about being rounded up in Virginia, where local governments are also threatening action, he'd only talk to us in shadow. [Man speaking in Spanish. Shipman gives English translation.] 'What breaks my heart,' he says 'is when my six-year-old daughter comes home and asked me, 'Why do they hate us?' Now, that gentleman's daughter is an American citizen. They were born here. He collects trash for a living. His Virginia employer doesn't ask any questions. But he says he's never been so frightened in his life. It's a wrenching issue, certainly, for both sides and Diane Sawyer is looking for answers in Mexico City. Diane?"

Diane Sawyer: "Hello, Claire, and good morning, America. We are in Mexico City, Mexico this morning because, as you just heard, the intense pressure is building to do something about illegal immigrants in the United States. And we're going to take you to the source. We're going to show you who is going across this border and how they're getting there. I'm also going to be talking to the president of this country, President Calderon, to talk to him about, is he going to crack down or in fact, is it to his advantage to leave the border open? We're also going to try and tackle this question of English in the United States. Does it change the country if English is no longer the only commonly used language? And I'll be showing you around a Mexico you have never seen before. It is an amazing place. We have things to show you that will make your mouth drop. And we're going to introduce you to the richest man on the planet. No, it is not Bill Gates. He lives here. And you will not believe how he lives."

—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.


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OH! For the love of

OH! For the love of Olberman!

Cry me a frakking Rio Grande!

Someone please provide me

Someone please provide me with a defination of going to far to crack down on criminals? Illegal is just another word for criminal, right? So dont local goverments all over the world track down, arrest and jail criminals? Where am I wrong here?

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Staggering?

In California, a staggering immigration sweep. 1,300 illegal immigrants arrested

1300 is cracking down too much? Good grief, to me it seems like they have a long way to go. Their is going to be a lot more criying before this is done, better get used to it. Aint much fun for our citizens either.

Maybe this is begging the question...

How can you go too far in enforcing the laws of the land?

The only people that need to worry are the criminals (aka illegals). So, what is the REAL problem?

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.
Thompson/Rice

LK, Senator Dodd has said he would ignore Federal law

...regarding illegal aliens. 

That is a US Senator, sworn to uphold the Constitution, and a Presidental candidate, saying he would ignore Federal law.  

No outcry, no repercussions.

 

Drug dealers live in fear

Drug dealers live in fear too. I guess we should probably cut them some slack as well, especially the one with kids in school.

Not all drug dealers...

Live in fear, but the better-financed ones with law enforcement and politicians on the payroll normally aren't this-stupid, though, so we never hear of 'em. I love the fact there's sufficient corruption that DRCnet can make Corrupt Cop Stories a weekly-feature, despite scant national-media coverage for some strange reason...
JMR

Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.

These leftist empty-headed

These leftist empty-headed talking heads do not know their arse from a hole in the ground if it hit them in the nose....I have heard this whining on other shows too today, they haven't a clue to what people out here in the real world think...poll after poll tell them that the MAJORITY of people have had it with the illegals of BOTH parties and they still do not want to see that because of their own candidates and agenda...all of those candidates in the dem party said they were for Sanctuary cities in a debate or two back...I could not believe that there was not one smart enough to say they were against it...the vote stealing leftist fools.

I do know one thing there had better be a republican candidate that is smart enough to run on this (Thompson, I hope)...he will WIN!

Bingo!!

Hi, bt!  Nail on head!

Who was that NYT writer... I think it was Gail Collins, the Editorial Page editor or something, who said Sanctuary City sounds kind of nice....and how NYC is a conglomeration of cultures, or some such twaddle.

I said in that thread I would bet my mortgage that she doesn't actually live in NYC with all those illegal immigrants, but in Connecticut.

And if Republicans think Mexicans who gain citizenship will vote for them, they can forget it. They simply cannot outdo the Democrats in pandering.

Howdy back at ya mb... I

Howdy back at ya mb...

I have heard poor ol' Connecticut is getting bad too.

Seriously.

Only these elitists see what they want through their rose-colored glasses as long as it doesn't affect them and it helps them and their candidates achieve their agenda.

They live in a very elite world do they not?

Wished somebody could or would prick their bubble they live in...that would be too much fun. 

Hey bigtimer, You made me

Hey bigtimer,

You made me think about something I heard on Laura Ingraham's show this morning. Friday's with Byron York (National Review), he pretty much says it is over for the Republicans....the White House and both Houses will go to the Dems (Hillary) in '08'. When I heard that I thought how can anyone predict a winner in 10/07?

Any thoughts on that topic?

Hi msh.... I think it is

Hi msh....

I think it is ridiculous to try and predict what will  happen yet...way to early.

I said earlier somewhere...illegal immigration is a HUGE issue on both sides of the aisle, we know that there are not any dem's running on this...we need just one person to run on it, we will win IMHO.

Of course there are other issues that are in important, very important ...but this is one both sides agree on according to polls and everyone I know on both sides of the aisle.

Thompson/Hunter 08 

Right. At this point in

Right. At this point in '03, Howard Dean was "the MAN." Not to say that Mrs. Clinton will self-destruct, she is way too controlled for that, but she can't control everything everywhere.

mb

 but she can't control everything everywhere.

You got that right mb....

...she thinks she can though...being the smartest woman in the world and all...

LOL

bigtimer, You know I

bigtimer,

You know I sometimes wonder why Laura Ingraham has these guys on her program. I think they have all lived in the beltway for so long they have no clue what we are thinking about in the real world. It is as if the world only exists in Washington, NY and Hollywood.

Illegals just want a better life

The people who employ and use them to get around taxes, and workers comp insurance are the most evil. We should arrest an employer with every illegal we arrest.

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here they come

Wish I knew a way to get 1000 illegals to show up at Claire's door at 7AM looking for handouts and chores to do for a couple bucks. Like post her address on flyers in Spanish (looking for laborers) and hand it out at the nearest Home Depot. Bet she wouldn't hesitate to call the cops!

D

Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.

It is wrong to enforce the law!

Next thing you will want is Vermont judges to make pediphiles actually serve time.Where will it end.Criminals have rights too.Forget the victims we must protect those that violate the law.Dont worry thought Mexicos president will enlighten us.

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/mexico_immigration/2007/09/28/36496.html?s=al&promo_code=3A98-1

Some people in this country act like we have the right like other countries.To enforce laws.How silly.

I'm also going to be

I'm also going to be talking to the president of this country,
President Calderon, to talk to him about, is he going to crack down or
in fact, is it to his advantage to leave the border open?
-Diane Sawyer

Oh, for crying out loud, where the hell has she been???? Calderon thinks the borders should be open; people should be able to move back and forth (as if anyone who gets out of Mexico wants to go back!). I think he has said that before, in other interviews.

His idea of "immigration" is: Any Mexican who wants to go live in the United States should be allowed to. And the same for Americans who want to immigrate to Mexico. And I believe he said that with a straight face.

I'm sure....

....that if a drunk, illegal immigrant without a driver's license broadsided the car her daughter and a friend were riding in and killed them she would be similarly concerned.

The event I described happened in Virginia Beach earlier this year.

Meanwhile the Mexican

Meanwhile the Mexican government is about to increase its spending thru its 47 Consulates in the US to defend illegals in the US. and set up an "Anti-defamation league".  They will also be fighting against US based groups that wish to stop illegal immigration.

See article here from Dallas Morning News Front Page on 4 OCT 07 : http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/world/mexico/stories/100407dnmetconsulates.368b595.html

Meanwhile theUS continues to send aid to Mexico.  So taxpayers are being forced to finance the invasion of their own country by a foreign government.

From Dallas morning News: 

"Among the actions under discussion are the creation of an anti-defamation league similar to that focused on protecting Jews; budget increases for some of the 47 consulates, especially in regions such as North Texas, where Mexican migration has been swift and plentiful; and a media campaign aimed at counteracting groups opposed to illegal immigration and sometimes legal immigration. "

....

"Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, said the plan "is guaranteed to backfire."

"They may feel that if they want an amnesty, they have to try," he said. But "they are going to be directly engaging in American politics. That is something American consuls would be deported for."  emphasis mine-alamojb

Meanwhile the Mexican

Meanwhile the Mexican government is about to increase its spending thru
its 47 Consulates in the US to defend illegals in the US. and set up an
"Anti-defamation league". They will also be fighting against US based
groups that wish to stop illegal immigration.

Of course they will. They will fight for the "right" of Mexicans to stay in the US in contradiction to our laws. They don't want them back. It's a double win for Mexico: the ship their poor and uneducated here, where they can get jobs and send money back to their families in Mexico.

Anti-illegal immigration is being set up as the new racism. Already you hear them referred to a "undocumented workers" and just plain "immigrants." Anyone who opposes amnesty will be tarred as a racist, bigoted, xenophobe. Politicians everywhere will be having that little boy (Why do they hate us?) shoved in their faces, and reporters will ask: What do you say to him and his father? or, Why DO you hate them?

I bet if they see the

I bet if they see the groundswell of support it causes then everyone will be a me too campign.  The same thing happened in 2000 when President Bush said on National TV that he was a ferverent follower of Jesus.  Perhaps Fred can do this, but it must be genuine or the people will see through it like they saw through Gore/Lieberman when they said mee too.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Has the Media gone too far?

Silly question, I know.   What part of "illegal" do they not understand?

Actually though, we have gone too far...too far in the direction of lenience and amnesty.

Being that I am in Dallas

Being that I am in Dallas Area I have seen this first hand.  Most all the residents want the illegal problem to stop and are behind this 100%.  The thing they want the employers and apartments and renters to do is check and see taht they are legal.  It is so simple and it has been declared legal, only a fool would claim otherwise.  If I am a landlord shouldn't I know who I am renting to?  The only ones claiming foul are the illegals and the groups that protect them.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Irving ain't no small town!

Yeah, Dan and what's up with the small town reference? Irving is pretty big. Even has a professional football team (for a little while longer).

Staggering Immigration Sweep

Out of 30 million border busters California busted 1300.......wow that is staggering like one mosquito bite in 10 years.

OK for a few facts now:

You will notice INS only raids certain areas........areas which are not connected and buying influence so the politicians and cartels keep these companies safe.

California from example could in one traffic lane net more than 1300 border busters in a morning.........or just setting up inside a Walmart.

This sham is how these traitors are trying to keep Americans pacified "that something is being done".

The fact is the day is coming when these nut Federal Judges ruling against states policing their own communities are going to have a huge problem when the local Sheriff starts booting all these Feds out of his county. Jurisdiction always remains with the local police and there very may come a time when each state starts DEMANDING REGISTRATION OF EVERY FEDERAL OFFICIAL and mandating limits on people stationed and the encompassing law that the Feds must be accompanied by a local officer and inform Sheriff's office of all operations going on.

No this is not going to be any repeat of the Civil War as Americans are too smart for this, but there is coming a time when the phrase United States is........becomes as it was originally the United States ARE and the 10th Ammendment rules supreme.

The United States government and many governments are now so corrupt in meth trade, illegal trade and power kickbacks that citizens are going to start shutting their borders.

I will repeat this again as Drudge and no one in the National Media, including here has mentioned what I posted as real story that a Muslim tried to run down 2 Americans with his car and then jumped out and almost beat one to death with a steel pipe.

These events are happening all over America nonstop now. Smart a** foreigners talking their language, making snide comments and laughing about women and deeming they own the place because the Federal Government is not policing our national borders.

Shipman needs to slum around with her border busters. Let them kidnap her, beat her up, rape her, dope her up and dump her in the country. THAT IS what Americans are facing........along with these smug latinos covering for them funnelling them into communities. That is why Americans are responding.......it is not about hate, but love of the United States of America.

 

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

Di and Claire

I wonder how many illegal aliens live in Diane Sawyer's neighborhood.

Well, they don't live there,

Well, they don't live there, but they might take care of their lawns. And those ladies wouldn't know if they are illegal...you know, don't ask, don't tell.....

This lady speaks as if local

This lady speaks as if local government has no responsibility to protect their community. The Federal government has done NOTHING to fight illegal occupiers. In fact, there is evidence that the Federal government ASSISTS with illegal immigration.  

Sorry folks, this has always been my #1 issue.  Illegal immigration is wreaking havoc on employment, taxes, welfare, population, classroom size, crime, disease etc. Claire Shipman is a MORON.

They dont

Sorry it is just so stupid.These people just drive me up the wall.They cant comprehend the word illegal.I agree with you 100% .My post earlier was sarcasm for these clowns.I just dont get why Americans arent allowed to enforce the law and when we do it is a crime.It just beyond me.

 

They still don't get it

"What had once been a lofty political debate has now become a gritty, explosive reality."

Shipman's a day late and a dollar short. It's been a gritty mess for a long time and the explosive reality is that citizens have had enough of the problems that ride in tandem with illegal immigrants who supplement what they can't afford by living off our taxes and who expect a public dole.

She, like Sawyer, speak from a place where their pretty little hands never have to get dirty. It's such a luxury to not have to deal with closed-up hospitals, crowded emergency rooms and schools, imported gang violence, delinquency and illegal drugs, not to mention a 40% prison population (CA) made up of the undocumented. How much more of this social overload will this country be able to accomodate would be a better question for these ladies to be asking.

But that would get their hands dirty.  

Another tunnel from Mexico was discovered just last month. Perhaps Ms. Shipman and Ms. Sawyer think it's a new Disney ride. Better ask El Presidente Calderon about that.

Sawyer: "Does it change the country if English is no longer the only commonly used language?

Que?

 

 

  How many languages do

 

How many languages do you want all our signs printed in, Diane?

As an aside, last year I went up to Worcester Massachusetts where my father lived, because he was in the hospital. The hospital signs outside for the parking garage etc. were printed in 4 languages. Spanish was not one of them.

Here's why they don't get it

The appeasers of the illegals have gotten it just fine.  They are not attempting amnesty out of soft hearts.  They know that American birth rates are too low to maintain social security and they see immigration in ANY FORM, including illegal, as the savior of the SSI system with millions of new workers who will feed and clothe the soon-to-retire seniors with the SSI taxes they pay.  They are not thinking of the shift in the political line, only the cure for SSI.  These new workers will influence the society more quickly toward socialism, thus providing a won skirmish, but a lost war(socialism). 

Don't ignore the obvious just because you're the only one who sees it.

And now we are going to be

And now we are going to be paying $ 5000/anchor baby for them to deliver in the USA. And free health care for all the kids they want to bring with them.

Surely this can become a potent issue in 2008. With open borders Bush retiring, and McCain most likely not the candidate, Republicans can offer a clear choice for border security and enforcement of the law. The Dems are farther off the mainstream on this issue than the Republicans are on Iraq.

 

There are times when I just

There are times when I just want to slam my head into a
wall.

 

Ohh, poor me, these bad people in this country do not like
me.

How about this thought: What if about 12,000,000 to
20,000,000 decide that we all want to go to say, Aruba.

Hell, we don’t care if they cant afford it, or there are no
room in the schools, if the health care system is crushed, that we drive drunk
and kill innocent people with our cars.

 

Wonder why I pick Aruba?

 

About 25 years ago, I asked some officials in Aruba about
opening a bar there. The look I got was as if I had asked to have sex with his
wife. I was told very firmly that you have to be a citizen of Holland or Aruba
to own a business there!

The point is.. LAWS. That is the way it is.

 

No where in the world allows people to come and “not” go
like here!

That is some set these people have. You sneak in, kids are
born here, go to school here. Then bitch that some people don’t like you...

GO THE HELL HOME. THEY LIKE YOU THERE..

 

It’s like stealing a TV from Wal-mart and standing in the
parking lot and complaining that they did not get the extended warranty!!!!!

 

THE KEY TO WINNING THE NEXT ELECTION: BUILD THE DAM FENCE.

These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
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Of course this would be

Of course this would be debated as"going too far"...these are the same people that debated whether using red ink to grade school kids papers was too harsh.

I'm thinking

That the toughest question he'll get is whether he likes extra caramel with his flan.

 

}}---> Going too far

Of course Local governments are going too far.  The federal government won't do its job, so local govt. is forced to do it for them.

The Feds haven's seen the secession movement get big enough yet to pay attention to enforcing the laws they've sworn to uphold.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

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She asserted that in the small town of Irving, Texas

This Dallas/Ft Worth suburb Estimated population in July 2006: 196,084 represents more than  "small town" values. 

They're certainly more in control of their city's government, but in addition to their internal problems they have a ringside seat to the spectacle of big city turmoil.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

FAR ENOUGH?

 We have even scratched the surface of the problem, they all need deported and yes it can be done. Railroad cars with porta toilets and jugs of waters is all you need.

Thank God and Greyhound..

As she says "What had once been a lofty political debate has now become a gritty, explosive reality."  

Correction...what has been a law on the books for years, has now become a "gritty, explosive reality of Law Enforcement" that talking heads cannot stop...it CANNOT be stopped, it's the law of the land.

Amen, and load up the Greyhounds ....... FedEx'em to the end of the Legal Immigration lines. 

Just watch the Dirty JOBS TV show..and count the Americans doing the jobs that Americans won't supposedly do...

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

14th Amendment abuse like this...

"...that gentleman's daughter is an American citizen" - must and will end.

This alien's daughter is not a citizen in the minds of many, certainly not in mine, and certainly not by the intent and actual language of the 14th Amendment.

It is absolute fiction that a child born to an illegal alien in this nation is an American - a convenient fiction used by socialists to help undermine this nation.

In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard clearly delineated the intent of the Amendment when he wrote:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject
to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a
citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons
born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the
families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the
Government of the United States, but will include every other class of
persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all
doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States.
This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and
legislation of this country."

Aliens are not under normal jurisdiction of the US, therefore neither are their children. To think it was meant to be otherwise is to believe that the authors of the 14th thought it ok to declare the child of an alien a citizen, and ultimately the child's entire family - an absurdity on its face.

This will be soon forced before the Supreme Court, and if not settled there as it should be, Congress and the President will have a last opportunity - and if that fails, it will be settled by revolution.

 

 

RonC

Do you have any relevant links to sites which have background info on this issue?

Support our Troops 

Until the last illegal has been thrown back over the border..

...then no government, be it federal, state, or local, has gone far enough.


When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.
-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.

Won't happen

The American people are too kind and too generous to deport illegals back over the border en masse. There is also the fear and concern from some that our economy might take a recessive turn. It may be emotion-venting to say "do it, bus them home" but it ain't gonna happen.

It's time more local governments start enforcing the laws across the board. In some places, officials who should be protecting American citizens from illegal criminals have been unable to do the job properly when their hands are hampered by local policies that protect lawbreakers in ways an American citizen would never be.

Now that's a crime. So are sanctuary cities who--if they persist in abiding by their feel-good measures and defy the laws--will reap the rewards of eventual chaos and poverty. They won't only be protecting harmless illegals (who just work, stay out of trouble) but also the criminal element which will become a burden on their cities. Citizens will flee and I'm not sure the feds will be willing to help a city in such a state without cooperation from the city's administrators.

I really don't understand this defiance of the law from the occasional mayor, including the one here in our city. While I'd recommend compassion and discussion directed towards the problems and the people involved, this scoff-law attitude has got to go. I dislike the thought of more federal manhandling because I don't like gov't intrusion and micromanaging, but in this case, it has become necessary. The feds need to clean up their mess.