With President Obama and congressional liberals facing loud protests over their big government health care plan, journalists are casting the anti-ObamaCare forces as “ugly,” “unruly,” “nasty” mobs, with reporters presenting the most odious images (like pictures of Obama drawn as Hitler) as somehow representative. But when President George W. Bush faced left-wing protests, the media scrubbed their stories of radical voices and depicted demonstrators as mainstream, and even “prescient.”
In January 2003, all of the broadcast networks touted an anti-war march organized by the radical International ANSWER, an outgrowth of the communist Workers World Party. Signs at the rally read: “USA Is #1 Terrorist,” “Bush Is a Terrorist,” and “The NYPD Are Terrorists Too.” National Review Online quoted several protesters who claimed 9/11 was a Bush plot, “like when Hitler burned down the Reichstag,” and argued Bush would “build a worldwide planetary death machine.”
Reporters bypassed all that hate and showcased the protesters as everyday Americans. On ABC, Bill Blakemore stressed how the protest attracted “Democrats and Republicans, many middle-aged, from all walks of life,” while CBS’s Joie Chen saw “young, old, veterans and veteran activists — all united in the effort to stop the war before it starts.”
In Feburary 2003, CNN donated two hours of programming, “Voices of Dissent,” to another International ANSWER event. Correspondent Maria Hinojosa enthused: “It’s an extraordinarily diverse crowd. I have seen elderly men and women with mink coats carrying their posters.” ABC’s John McKenzie painted the protesters as idealistic: “So many voices, filling the streets, struggling to be heard.”
On March 22, 2003, CNN offered 38 separate reports on a demonstration that day, but managed to never show any of the radical rhetoric from the podium. Over on ABC, Chris Cuomo saluted the leftists converging in New York City: “While protesters like today are a statistical minority, in American history protests like this have been prescient indicators of the national mood. So the government may do well to listen to what’s said today.”
In October 2003, the far left rallied again in Washington, this time with a rapper leading a chant of “F**k George Bush!” and speakers praising Cuban dictator Fidel Castro. The next day’s Washington Post ignored all of that in favor of a soft feature: “In D.C., a Diverse Mix Rouses War Protest.”
In 2006, the left demanded money for New Orleans, with one protester wearing a George W. Bush mask adorned with Satan horns and a Hitler moustache. CNN reporter Susan Roesgen thought it comic, calling it a “look-alike” for the President. But covering the anti-big government tea parties in April 2009, Roesgen was aggrieved to see a picture of Obama with a Hitler moustache: “Why be so hard on the President of the United States though with such an offensive message?”
Today’s protesters are being portrayed as crazy and even dangerous. Ex-CNN reporter Bob Franken called the anti-Obama protesters “a crazed group” engaged in “organized intimidation.” An August 10 graphic on MSNBC wondered: “Conservatives Coming Unhinged?” Chris Matthews saw racism: “I think some of the people are upset because we have a black President.” And ABC’s Bill Weir on Friday warned “the rising anger is now ramping up concerns over the President’s personal safety.”
The double-standard is obvious. How can professional journalists possibly justify it?
—Rich Noyes is Research Director at the Media Research Center.
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Double Standard
August 18, 2009 - 12:41 ET by GeneralAlThe sad part to all this is the double standard exists but lefties always retort with "This is Different!"
I don't think any reasonable
August 20, 2009 - 10:50 ET by JRJ08I don't think any reasonable person would deny that the disruptions at the recent town hall meetings have been "different". Town hall meetings were originally conceived to provide a public forum in which citizens could ask questions so that they could make an informed decision about a particular issue. They were never meant to be protest venues. The groups who went into these meetings to protest did so with the premeditated intent to disrupt the discussion and prevent anybody else from speaking. They would routinely attack the speaker, bringing up issues that were totally irrelevant to the subject of health care reform, and shout down anybody who appeared to support reform. Whether or not these groups were organized by some private insurance industry operative or extreme political faction, such as Lyndon LaRouche's asylum escapees, isn't really that important. What's important is that these people allowed themselves to be driven into a frenzy by rumors, half-truths and falsehoods, then acted out their irrational rage in what should have been a civil and informative discussion. Town hall meetings haven't been around that long and I can't remember any reports of past meetings which had a problem remotely similar to this. Intentionally disrupting a meeting that is meant to give voters an opportunity to have their questions answered is about as unAmerican as you can get. If you want to dissent, fine. But don't crap in your own sandbox. Picket the building if you think you already have all the answers and that everybody inside is a liar. There's lots of ways to get your mug on the TV. Of course, if that's the case, you might also consider getting some therapy.
spits out drink
August 20, 2009 - 11:00 ET by candanceTown hall meetings haven't been around that long
Is this a joke? I'm serious. You can't honestly be posting that. Town halls have been a trademark in America since before the revolution.
As to the rest of your post, I'm willing to bet money you've never shown up at any of these meetings. You've done little more than copypaste the standard opinion of kossaks. A 30 second sound bite does not show the overall tone of a meeting that lasts for hours.
And lastly, it's just too rich for a lefty to lecture anyone on civil debate. Got those "---- Bush" bumper stickers torn off your car yet?
No, Candance, you're the one
August 20, 2009 - 12:13 ET by JRJ08No, Candance, you're the one who is a joke. Carrying a picket sign or putting an anti-Bush bumpersticker on your pickup is a far cry from disrupting a town hall meeting. Of course, the original "town hall meetings" took place hundreds of years ago in New England, but I'm obviously referring to the modern day media events, which began during the Clinton Administration. Although, we did have an 8-year gap in presidential town halls between 2000 and 2008 because George Bush was incapable of answering complicated and/or unscripted questions extemporaneously. Your response here is not atypical of every other response I've gotten here. Not only do you fail to address the relevant points I've made, but you also launch into a vacuous and rather dopey personal attack.
~Look away everyone
August 20, 2009 - 12:36 ET by choselife3xThis is going to be ugly.
you also launch into a vacuous and rather dopey personal attack.
Like this?
you belong in a straight-jacket. Take your meds and read a book.
This place is like a little club, where the members sit around and pat
each other on the back, trying to convince each other that they're the
only ones who know the real truth about anything. It's that certainty
and lack of self-doubt that amuses me. My guess is that many of you are
just pissed off no end that a black man is sitting in the White House,
even if you won't admit it.
what you really are – Americans who hate the majority of other
Americans and simply can't tolerate anybody who doesn't think exactly
as you do.
Congratulations. You actually found a black man that you like. That's a big step for you, I know.
biggest idiots of all (meaning you)
your 7th grade history textbook the next time you ditch class
you sad excuse for a moosehead.
you fish-headed goat-lover.
empty-skulled dorks like you
intellectually disadvantaged adolescent, but keep eating your grits and stay away from your little sister
What I would call you, based on your puerile sarcasm, is a homophobic
ideologue who could care less about learning any fact which didn't
confirm your own provincial and ignorant view of the world.
Barney Franks not stupid? How else would you describe someone who had a
prostitution ring running out of his house "without his knowledge"?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
You sound like you were one
August 19, 2009 - 14:23 ET by JRJ08
You sound like you were one of his regulars.
Does your friend know about your sexual confusion? Could be the reason why he's hanging around. Just sayin'.
being confused about your sexuality doesn't necessarily mean that you're gay. (You of all people should know that).
Ah yes. You would be against that thinking thing, wouldn't you.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
But, sweetheart, you failed
August 20, 2009 - 12:43 ET by JRJ08But, sweetheart, you failed to include a single one of the comments to which I was replying. This is called 'taking things out of context'. By the way, when you call someone a "sad excuse for a moosehead", it is a tongue-in-cheek insult, as was "fish-headed goat-lover". If you went to a forum and people called you the names I've been called here, you'd probably take out that cannon you've got mounted in the back of your pickup. At the end of the day, I am not the one who is refusing to address a point. I look at all the time and trouble you went through in accumulating my previous remarks, but see that you have not spent one nanosecond thinking rationally about the topic.
~But, sweetheart, you failed
August 20, 2009 - 13:29 ET by choselife3xTo answer my posts addressing your points. Respond to them and we'll have something to talk about.
Fish-headed goat-lover. :-p
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
hilarious
August 20, 2009 - 20:43 ET by tarunkjuyalis the word to describe JRJ showing their complete ignorance and feeble attempts to recover with their idiotic spin.
Hi, candance.
August 20, 2009 - 12:44 ET by BO STINKSI was a teen during the 70's and remember my Dad attending Town Halls all the time. At this time in the Denver Public Schools, the teachers were trying to lie about many things concerning WWII. Since Dad was a vet, he took that a bit personally. He made his voice heard at school bd. meetings and town hall mtgs. for years. A very good example to his daughters, I might add. :-)
"...it must be known that we are at all times ready for war." G. Washington
The "Town Hall Meetings"
August 20, 2009 - 13:53 ET by JRJ08The "Town Hall Meetings" we're having today got their name from the old gatherings in New England where an entire township would turn out for a discussion of local issues. Certainly, you must realize that traditional town hall meetings would be totally useless today given the size of our cities. Such a meeting without media coverage may as well be held in secret. Now, we can argue endlessly about this terminology or stick to the topic, which concerns what made the behavior at the recent town halls "different".
oh please, JRJ
August 20, 2009 - 16:48 ET by candanceLocal lawmakers hold town hall meetings all the time, and they've done so continuously for centuries. A congress critter held one at my high school when I was a junior.
Certainly, you must realize that traditional town hall meetings would be totally useless today given the size of our cities.
Certainly you must realize that American law limits congressional disctricts to certain population size. All of the eight million people in NYC don't have the same House member.
If town halls are so usless, that wouldn't explain why congress critters are doing them now.
Such a meeting without media coverage may as well be held in secret.
Or such a meeting would serve to express the opinions of only those who live in that town...which is kinda the point.
As to your point about Bush, he didn't hold a townhall every time his poll numbers dropped because he wasn't just a professional campaigner. Maybe you would rather he took the Obama approach - getting campaign workers to "randomly" show up in the crowd, or getting party delegates to lie about being a doctor.
You've proven yourself utterly ignorant about America politcs. Tell your friends at DKos to send over someone smarter next time.
What you're saying is that,
August 20, 2009 - 18:14 ET by JRJ08What you're saying is that, today, whenever somebody mentions what's going in the Town Hall meetings, they're obviously referring to the gatherings of local residents meeting with local representatives to discuss local issues. That's what you mean, right? You're saying that the town hall meetings that are being referred to in this article are that kind of meeting. Right?
The town hall meetings that are being discussed in the article are the kind that are getting coverage in the national media. The point of these meetings is most definitely NOT just to broadcast the opinions of of a few people who live in a particular town. That's preposterous. You actually think a U.S. Senator would go to a meeting like this if it wasn't a media event?
How many town hall meetings do you think there were prior to the Clinton Administration that were set up to deal with national issues and get national coverage? Give me just one example.
wow, JRJ
August 20, 2009 - 19:09 ET by candanceYour naivety continues to amuse me.
You actually think a U.S. Senator would go to a meeting like this if it wasn't a media event?
Do you know how many Senators have attended town halls this summer that you didn't hear about? Richard Burr in North Carolina, Jeff Sessions in Alabama, and Ben Nelson in Nebraska, just to name a few.
August recess is always the traditional time when congress critters do town halls. I cannot believe you are debating this. It's like asking me to prove the sky is really blue.
And you found out about
August 21, 2009 - 10:28 ET by JRJ08And you found out about these meetings how?
This is absurd. You people have spent the last 24 hours arguing about how long town hall meetings like those we're seeing in the media now have been going on. If you guys were running the government, we'd still be waiting for the discovery of fire.
how?
August 21, 2009 - 10:39 ET by katainkentour town has meetings all the time. Contentions/announcements about property, taxes, etc. Coming on 15 yrs now... since my parents moved here anyway. The notice is published in the free weekly local paper.
Our rep's mtgs are posted on his website. I write him once in awhile on issues. He's a big fat RINO, unfortunately. My father writes him darn near everyday.
I discovered fire when I was two. Its hot, and burns things.
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"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller." - (Dr. In Chief) Barack Obama June 25, 2009
we're done here, JRJ
August 21, 2009 - 12:01 ET by candanceYou said Senators wouldn't bother doing town halls unless it was a major media event. I posted news items from small, local papers that recounted town halls the national media had no interest in.
You're trying to trap me in a catch 22. I can't prove anything online without linking to a news source, but the news source is proof that the MSM was in on it. I have to prove there were town halls in the 70s and 80s, even though there are no online archives from that period.
Here's a job for you, genius. Three people here have offered personal experience of town halls being common. YOU made the original assertion that town halls didn't exist before the 90s. How about YOU start proving THAT.
And we've been arguing about it for 24 hours because you keep broadcasting your ignorance. I'm not the one who thought giant populations all had to share one House critter.
If you were running the government, kids in public schools would think Congress only had 50 people.
You win, Einstein. U.S.
August 23, 2009 - 11:28 ET by JRJ08You win, Einstein. U.S. Senators routinely attend small community meetings with local townspeople to discuss their local problems without any media in attendance, and it has just been an accident that cameras have been present at these town hall discussions about health care reform. You're totally right. Nothing has changed about these Town Hall meetings since the late 18th century. A U.S. Senator still has the time and energy to go from small meeting to small meeting, to make sure every single community in their state gets a chance to ask their questions. How could I have been so ignorant to think that these organized media events had no resemblance at all to traditional Town Hall meetings. You win. I give up. Feel better?
more ignorance on display
August 23, 2009 - 11:29 ET by candanceThe cameras are "accidentally" showing up because people have video recorders on their cellphones now, or can bring a tiny digital camera with video capabilities. They're not being recorded by the media - they're showing up on YouTube and then the media borrows it.
You haven't seen town halls showing up online before now because there wouldn't have been much point. Who would sit for two hours watching people talk politics on YouTube? They're making news now because of the fights.
I dare you to write your Sentors and ask them yourself. You do know how many of them are in each state, right?
Your metaphysical certitude
August 23, 2009 - 11:39 ET by JRJ08Your metaphysical certitude about things with which you could not possibly have any first hand experience is amusing to say the least.
prove me wrong
August 23, 2009 - 11:43 ET by candanceI'm tired of being the Google monkey here. How about you start proving something for a change.
Town Hall
August 25, 2009 - 00:29 ET by dvdaughtrySue Myrick is having 3 town halls, here in NC over the next 3 days (sorry hyper link button not working, http://www.meckgop.com/) . Not likely to get much media attention, because she is one of the good guys. It will probably be peaceful.
However, I will be there (the 8/26 one) with my video camera, just in case I have the chance to catch the next raving lunatic lefty throwing a fit (mwhahaha!)
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
so..
August 20, 2009 - 16:24 ET by katainkentto recap. "It IS different" ?
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"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller." - (Dr. In Chief) Barack Obama June 25, 2009
Mink coats?
August 18, 2009 - 12:45 ET by karelingWould anyone consider that "well dressed", worthy of a "Brooks Brothers brigade"?
Where was PETA?
keep spreading the word
August 18, 2009 - 12:59 ET by TWOTIMETUNAWe need to keep the heat on the so-called mainstream media by not watching them and trying to get their advertisers to stop supporting them until they start reporting the truth. Simple as that.
The Government is the Enemy
We'll be criticized by leftoids anyway!
August 18, 2009 - 13:05 ET by jefflebowskiWe've been called overdressed Brooks Brothers wealthy, underdressed flyover country rubes, mobs, racists, terrorists, Nazis, teabaggers, rednecks, evil mongers, employees of insurance companies, employees of Dick Armey, pawns of the Republican party and other names that cannot be written here.
See the pattern? Liberals have no argument. They can only call names. They never have anything to argue..just some slogan or name to call. Don't look for them to change. They are intellectually weak, lazy, stupid or just plain dishonest. What is interesting is their usual tactics are not working. Taxpaying Americans are not backing down.
Say it loud, I'm a overdressed Brooks Brothers wealthy, underdressed flyover country
rubes, mobs, racists, terrorists, Nazis, teabaggers, rednecks, evil
mongers, employees of insurance companies, employees of Dick Armey,
pawns of the Republican party and proud!
Angry White Dude
www.angrywhitedude.c...
We predicted this, didn't
August 18, 2009 - 13:13 ET by mattmWe predicted this, didn't we?
I seem to recall many NBers saying after the election that any opposition to Obama will be characterized as racism. I knew we'd turn out to be right....again.
Funny how opposition to Palin was never really considered to be sexism...
The MSM is so investing in
August 18, 2009 - 13:17 ET by d1carterThe MSM is so investing in this historical presidency that they will do anything, I do mean anything, to protect it. I don't watch the MSM anymore. They are not professional "journalists". They are more in the category of propagandists.
News Media Firewall
August 18, 2009 - 14:39 ET by JDWI have yet to figure this out, how does news media benefit in the end? Realize how many of these companies have either gone Chapt 11 or Internet and ask yourself what are they gaining by supporting this cause?
JDW
DAILY WAVE
Jobs, jobs, jobs ... Spending, spending, spending
How can professional
August 18, 2009 - 13:28 ET by RMRHow can professional journalists possibly justify it? Professional journalists could never justify it but these guys are not professional journalists, even though some of them might play one on tv.
Look, these guys are not journalists, they are left wing propagandists pushing socialism, marxism and every other freedom-crushing 'ism known to man. It's time conservatives accept that fact and deal with them accordingly.
deal with them accordingly
August 18, 2009 - 14:01 ET by katainkentby not dealing with them at all. Everytime a conservative goes on one of these programs it validates them. At some point a child playing pretend has to realize how the grown ups actually do it. I think it needs to stop. Conservatives should boycott any of these wildly bias networks.
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"The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" - HR 3200 (Health Care Bill) Pg. 203. Ln 14 & 15
Applause, please...
August 18, 2009 - 13:35 ET by Meredith1966Big shout out to you folks at NewsBusters for keeping on top of this stuff every single day. No one in the State-run media can legitimately claim objectivity as long as you guys are around to hold them accountable. Good job keeping us informed and them nervous.
"The words of a President have an enormous weight and ought not to be used indiscriminately." - Calvin Coolidge
Yep. "Conservative" label constantly trotted out by CNN et al
August 18, 2009 - 14:00 ET by krendlerin captions, etc while showing footage of anti-ObamaCare rallies and town hall meetings. The meme is that government controlled (to-the-hilt) health care is only being opposed by the far right.
I can't recall CNN ever putting up a similar caption or using a similar spin implying protesters against Bush were just a bunch of far left liberals. In fact, the media very rarely uses the word "liberal" at all. There are "normal" Americans (those who agree with the MSM's liberal slant). And anyone who doesn't agree with them (or Obama) is an evil, racist conservative.
More lies
August 18, 2009 - 19:40 ET by JRJ08http://johnrj08.word...
2010
August 18, 2009 - 14:25 ET by boomerconPerhaps they'll just continue to treat us as insignificant, with their heads in the sand about the libs, and we'll catch them all by surprise in 2010, and again in 2012.
As W said, they "misunderestimate" both our commitment to this country, and our distrust of BHO and his ilk.
Activists
August 18, 2009 - 14:43 ET by JDWRecently we learned MoveOn is attempting to mobilize activists to attend town halls, anyone with half a brain can understand what this means.
JDW
DAILY WAVE
Jobs, jobs, jobs ... Spending, spending, spending
Barney Frank is having a
August 18, 2009 - 18:07 ET by celatorBarney Frank is having a Town Hall meeting as we speak. Mark Levin is running excerpts from the meeting on his radio program.
From the sound of it, Barney is having a wee bit of trouble with the attendees. He's getting his butt handed to him, it sounds like.
It will be interesting to see how this is reported in the media.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
I'm no fan of Barney Frank,
August 19, 2009 - 10:21 ET by JRJ08I'm no fan of Barney Frank, but his butt was handed to no one in that meeting. He was dealing with a few seriously impaired people, some of whom compared health care reform to the euthanasia policies in Nazi Germany, and his responses were completely appropriate and supported by most of the other people attending. If you folks are supporting the kinds of whack-jobs who compare the President of the United States to Adolf Hitler, you belong in a straight-jacket. Take your meds and read a book. (Not Michelle Malkin's book, though).
JRJ08
August 19, 2009 - 10:34 ET by SvenHe was dealing with a few seriously impaired people, some of whom compared health care reform to the euthanasia policies in Nazi Germany...
OK, if this is the case, care to tell us why Obama and company thought it important to dispell the accusation of "Death Panels" rightly pointed out by Sarah Palin?
I mean, if this is just "good, quality care..." as Obama has touted, why did he and the Dems bother answering to the likes of Palin?
All of the answers to your
August 19, 2009 - 12:18 ET by JRJ08All of the answers to your reasonable questions are here. But, in famous words of Sir Jack Nicholson, "You can't handle the truth!"
http://johnrj08.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/what-is-malkins-agenda/
what's your agenda. We know
August 19, 2009 - 12:26 ET by Jack Bauerwhat's your agenda. We know it's not a conservative agenda. So what is it?
I come here mostly because
August 19, 2009 - 13:15 ET by JRJ08I come here mostly because of I'm upset about all the hateful lies and half-truths that are being spread about this president and the health care reform PROPOSALS that are currently being considered by Congress. Citizens can't make an intelligent decision about anything when they refuse to listen to any of the facts except those that are spoon-fed to them by like-minded ideologues. Of course, I realize that I'm not going to change a single closed mind in this forum, but at least I make an effort. This place is like a little club, where the members sit around and pat each other on the back, trying to convince each other that they're the only ones who know the real truth about anything. It's that certainty and lack of self-doubt that amuses me. My guess is that many of you are just pissed off no end that a black man is sitting in the White House, even if you won't admit it. So my agenda is to be a voice for truth "crying out in the wilderness" of a website that devotes itself to distinctly unAmerican values and sensibilities. What amazes me every time I come here is that so many of you think that your juvenile insults have any impact on me at all. NONE of you know me or my personal values. NONE of you know what I do for a living or what my background is. Most of you have an ideologically-driven reaction to everything that I post here, as if you are incapable to thinking beyond the talking points you're parroting. So my agenda is to get in your face and hold up a mirror so that you can see yourself for what you really are – Americans who hate the majority of other Americans and simply can't tolerate anybody who doesn't think exactly as you do.
so in a sweeping generalization
August 19, 2009 - 13:17 ET by katainkentyou're accusing us of having sweeping generalizations?
do I have that correct?
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"The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" - HR 3200 (Health Care Bill) Pg. 203. Ln 14 & 15
Oh Good Grief!
August 19, 2009 - 13:17 ET by BlondeWe've seen your kind here a thousand times before.
Pathetic. Truly.
I hope he fails, too.
I rest my case.
August 19, 2009 - 13:26 ET by JRJ08I rest my case.
Good
August 19, 2009 - 13:29 ET by BlondeSince your work here is apparently done, why don't you leave?
I hope he fails, too.
What, and spoil your fun? I
August 19, 2009 - 13:35 ET by JRJ08What, and spoil your fun? I wouldn't do that to you.
If I'd been in the mood for it
August 19, 2009 - 13:37 ET by BlondeI'd have splatted your pathetic trollishness all over the boards by now.
But do carry on, I believe my friend Bru would be happy to provide me with sufficient amusement.
I hope he fails, too.
Ah. So your mind is totally
August 19, 2009 - 13:18 ET by Jack BauerAh. So your mind is totally closed. Thanks.
Well, Jack Bauer, if that
August 19, 2009 - 13:33 ET by JRJ08Well, Jack Bauer, if that really is your name, if you read through this thread you should get the general impression that I'm the only one here who isn't reading from the same page. I've spent most of my time here reacting to childish remarks. While that has been quite fun, it doesn't really edify anybody. Unlike most people here, I went through at least one of the health care proposals currently being considered by Congress and was fully prepared not to like it. Once I got a few things clarified to my satisfaction, and waded through all the bullshit being shoveled out by the Obama-haters, I decided that the proposal was sound and that it would benefit the country as a whole. But people here don't seem interested in clarifying anything other than their own anger. I call that being closed minded even if you don't.
Tell you what.........
August 19, 2009 - 13:41 ET by BEGRUNTyou get the ENTIRE congress, House and Senate, White House, and Govt employees on the "Public option" and I might consider it. Good luck with that, as you know that will NEVER happen!!
I don't really understand
August 19, 2009 - 13:53 ET by JRJ08I don't really understand all the negativity about the public option. It's just that-- an option. And most people wouldn't even qualify for it, so the idea that it would drive private insurers out of the business is completely false. The public option simply makes sure that more people are covered who wouldn't have been covered otherwise. I know that sounds unAmerican to a lot of people here, but it seems like the right thing to do to me.
You do realize that the "public option".......
August 19, 2009 - 14:05 ET by BEGRUNTwill eventually lead to the demise of private insurance dont you? As I said, if congress thinks this is so great, why not lead by example and go on the "public option"?
Edit: I'm in the government, and my healthcare is outstanding......I have no worries about myself, since I know the politicians wont ever cut us out.........It is the average Joe out there I'm concerned with, since he doesnt have a political daddy to look out for them. "Public Option" will eventually lead to the elimination of private insurance as it has in every countyr it has been tried in....i;e: Canada, Englands, France, to name a few.
No Senator or Representative
August 19, 2009 - 18:56 ET by JRJ08No Senator or Representative could even qualify for the public option. In fact, if you're on a plan where you work, you won't qualify because that option is not designed for you. It is an option for those who would otherwise not be insured. The statement that "everybody is going to rush over to the cheaper public option and drive the private insurers out of business" is simply inaccurate and a classic scare tactic. The adminstration has said many times that it is not patterning the new system after the Canadian or French model.
Really?
August 19, 2009 - 19:04 ET by BlondeYou can pay $15 a month.
Or, you can be fined $8 a month.
Which would you choose?
Riiight....take the fine.
Now....the $15 represents premiums paid for each of your employees, and the $8 represents the fine paid if you don't provide private insurance.
So...what is your choice? How do you maximize profit?
Classic scare tactic, eh? Or Economics 101?
Try again, trollster.
I hope he fails, too.
Ya.....until.....
August 20, 2009 - 13:01 ET by BEGRUNTthe "public option" is the ONLY option.....wake up junior!!!! Your being sold a bill of goods......unless your on the "team" which I suspect you are. As I said before...."Chicago style" politics WILL NOT work in the rest of the nation!! You will see for yourself in 2010,,,,,then what will you say??? Were all fools?? Beware junior, we are waking up, and your politics are going to be crushed under the boot of the silent majority, and the TRUTH!!! Read up on history.....you know the non re-written by liberals history, and GET A FRIGGIN CLUE!!!!!
Spoken like a true American,
August 29, 2009 - 18:17 ET by JRJ08Spoken like a true American, 'jackboot' and all. This is nothing more than run-of-the-mill hate-speech. Full of mindless slander and pointless threats. For someone who appears to know so little about current events, you talk a lot about reading and history. It is doubtful that anybody would categorize you as being part of any alleged "silent" majority.
~Here's the key
August 19, 2009 - 14:01 ET by choselife3xConservatives don't have a problem helping people who need it, look at all the Christian/religious charities. The problem we have with the public 'option' is that--
1. Private industry can't compete with the government, the government not only has deeper pockets, it regulates the insurance industry. They hold the trump card.
2. The government has no business meddling in health care, it should stick to it's powers and duties as outlined in the Constitution. Period.
Thomas Jefferson: “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.”
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
Of course you don't understand.
August 19, 2009 - 14:24 ET by KarmaAnyone who believes the government wants to "simply" do anything, has blinders on. Carry on comrade and keep on doin' the "right thing". It's pretty easy when you force others to do it for you, huh. Charity has a new friend and her name is whomever JRJ decides because he cares.
Healthcare...Food...Education...Housing... - What sprouted as free for some is maturing into a free-for-all.
so...
August 19, 2009 - 13:45 ET by katainkentso... which issues did you need clarified? And what answers did you find that gave you satisfaction.
___________________________________________
"The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" - HR 3200 (Health Care Bill) Pg. 203. Ln 14 & 15
These: http://johnrj08.w
August 19, 2009 - 13:48 ET by JRJ08These:
http://johnrj08.word...
not reading your rant on Malkin
August 19, 2009 - 13:52 ET by katainkentsince I don't read Malkin its meaningless to me anyway. You'd rather swipe at the low hanging fruit. That's ok. I'll wait.
___________________________________________
"The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" - HR 3200 (Health Care Bill) Pg. 203. Ln 14 & 15
There's plenty of it.
August 19, 2009 - 18:58 ET by JRJ08There's plenty of it.
hey
August 19, 2009 - 19:20 ET by katainkentwell... still waiting. Shame. You came here to show us the error of our ways and yet... just can't seem to help yourself. Pi314 had that same problem.
___________________________________________
"The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" - HR 3200 (Health Care Bill) Pg. 203. Ln 14 & 15
08....I asked a question.....
August 19, 2009 - 13:57 ET by BEGRUNTand all I get is crickets......too busy throwing your inane handgrenades to address a serious question!!?? I asked if the "public option" is so great, then why are not ALL congressman and senators going to be part of it????????? Why wont they INSIST since it is the greatest thing in the world, that they would be mandated to be part of it?? You already know the answer..........
Begrunt: yeah, crickets is all you're going to hear for a while
August 19, 2009 - 15:42 ET by SickofLibsBecause he's out there doing the Messiah's work.
This will take 5 seconds: Google "johnrj08, malkin" and you will see he has posted his Malkin-Healthcare attack screed on 50+ other blogs in the last few days. Very busy, he is.
He is obviously a paid operative and is merely spamming here. So anybody who thinks they are engaging in a honest spirited debate with this hack, you would be wrong.
SoL, I have noticed an uptick.....
August 19, 2009 - 16:14 ET by BEGRUNTin new trolls.....every time that Zero starts going down in the polling, they start appearing, throwing handgrenades and personal attacks, "distract, distract, and spin". The "Axelrod" crew is working overtime!! One thing these knuckleheads dont get is the the "Chicago Style" politics dont play in the rest of the nation.
Sorry. Bad information
August 19, 2009 - 17:55 ET by JRJ08Sorry. Bad information again.
"Bad information", Johnny? So that's some other johnjr08?
August 20, 2009 - 06:30 ET by SickofLibsTurf on, busy bee.
Prick
August 29, 2009 - 18:19 ET by JRJ08Prick
Thanks for confirming
August 19, 2009 - 13:54 ET by Jack BauerWell JRJ09, thanks for confirming that your mind is closed. JRJ09 --- if that's your real name.
08' It's a DEMOCRAT in office. The party of the KKK
August 19, 2009 - 13:23 ET by upcountrywaterHere is a Black man I like...
The Obama Presidential Public Service Announcement by Bob Parks,
Since “conservative whites” are… conservative, the chances they would vote for a Democrat in the first place is slim.
If anything, Barack Obama’s presidential candidacy will
spotlight just who’s been the premiere racists in America today, just
as their self-revised history proves it’s always been: the Democrat
Party.
Reagan VS Liberalism
Congratulations. You
August 19, 2009 - 13:36 ET by JRJ08Congratulations. You actually found a black man that you like. That's a big step for you, I know.
08' Spoken like a true KKK democrat devotee
August 19, 2009 - 14:43 ET by upcountrywaterHere is some viewing pleasure from another Man I admire
Reagan VS Liberalism
This Brave Little Soldier cries out in the wilderness
August 19, 2009 - 13:35 ET by SickofLibsSo you are the self-proclaimed "Voice of Truth"... who's patting who on the back?
Go light an Obama candle, sob into your pillow and quit wasting electrons posting this crap here - nobody is interested in your lies and racism smears.
Hey, if you're not
August 19, 2009 - 13:37 ET by JRJ08Hey, if you're not interested, don't reply. Easy as pie, even for you.
"So my agenda is to get
August 19, 2009 - 14:00 ET by Ruths husband Ben"So my agenda is to get in your face and hold up a mirror so that you can see yourself for what you really are"
So, the difference between you and a self loathing troll is what?
And as far as us being juvenile, "I know you are now what am I?"
Those are rhetorical questions, by the way. But one that I would like you to answer is: Does it hurt being so self righteous?
Don't bother answering, I won't read your response anyway.
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho
Ben
August 19, 2009 - 14:04 ET by BlondeThat's about the way I had it figured, too.
I hope he fails, too.
Enjoy reading your comments, JRJ.
August 21, 2009 - 14:30 ET by BO STINKSBut, please, could you put in a couple of paragraphs once in a while? Sheesh, the rant style is just silly.
"...it must be known that we are at all times ready for war." G. Washington
~They're coming to take you away!
August 19, 2009 - 12:29 ET by choselife3xIf you folks are supporting the kinds of whack-jobs who compare the
President of the United States to Adolf Hitler, you belong in a
straight-jacket.
You mean like these whack jobs? We eargerly await your repudiation of the Democrats for their endless evocations of "Bushitler".
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
Ahem....cl!!!!
August 19, 2009 - 12:32 ET by BlondeIt was Chimpy Bush McHitler, for cryin' out loud...get it right, would ya?
I hope he fails, too.
~Oh dear
August 19, 2009 - 12:36 ET by choselife3xI didn't empty the whole magazine on the guy, I was saving a few rounds for when he starts twitching.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
What is ironic about this
August 19, 2009 - 12:46 ET by JRJ08What is ironic about this Adolf Hitler crap is that the posters we've been seeing at these events were created by Lyndon LaRouche's organization, which is an extreme left-wing group. The problem is, the strident insanity of these WHACK-JOBS is that they are derailing any rational discussion of an issue that is vital to this country. The woman asking Barney Frank about this in the town hall meeting sounded like she had just stepped out of a UFO after being forced to listen to Lyndon LaRouche audio tapes for 100 light years. You think her question was an intelligent one that helped clarify important questions about the three PROPOSALS being considered in Congress? And you think they're coming to take ME away...
~AWESOME
August 19, 2009 - 12:59 ET by choselife3xYou not only can't handle the truth, you can't face it on a blog with an anonymous account.
Then you admit that the Obama-Hitler imagery was created by a lefty.
The woman asking Barney Frank about this in the town hall meeting
sounded like she had just stepped out of a UFO after being forced to
listen to Lyndon LaRouche audio tapes for 100 light years.
Project much? Lyndon LaRouche puts out audio tapes? You know this, how?
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
This is a pretty lame
August 19, 2009 - 13:21 ET by JRJ08This is a pretty lame counterattack, honey. Using my real name here would be almost as stupid as assuming you're a woman after reading your rather brutish, vitriolic posts in this forum. Decidedly unfeminine. Do you have a 30.06 mounted in the back of your pickup?
~Hear that?
August 19, 2009 - 13:37 ET by choselife3xIt's violins playing for you.
your rather brutish, vitriolic posts in this forum
Thank you, this going to be fun.
Let's see...
Me: That is without a doubt one of the most idiotically
ignorant things I've ever seen anyone pull out of their nether regions.
You are an ignorant moron. Scratch that, you're an EMBARRASSMENT to
ignorant morons. IDIOT.
You:
biggest idiots of all (meaning you)
your 7th grade history textbook the next time you ditch class
you sad excuse for a moosehead.
you fish-headed goat-lover.
empty-skulled dorks like you
intellectually disadvantaged adolescent, but keep eating your grits and stay away from your little sister
Yes, I'm brutish. And vitriolic. Check out my bio for more details. And my screen name couldn't possibly have been a giveaway. choselife3x has no feminine connotations whatsoever, right? Not that I care particularly, I just found it amusing that you accused a female of molesting a female. You're really on the ball there, junior.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
Hey, I never accused you of
August 19, 2009 - 13:47 ET by JRJ08Hey, I never accused you of molesting a female. Let's get that straight. I just warned you to stay away from your little sister, and you ran with it in the direction of your choice. Some might call that rather Freudian.
I have about as much interest in reading your bio as I do in reading Michelle Malkin's life story.
"stay away from your little sister"
August 19, 2009 - 13:50 ET by katainkentso, how should one take that?
___________________________________________
"The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" - HR 3200 (Health Care Bill) Pg. 203. Ln 14 & 15
~Don't make him think that hard
August 19, 2009 - 14:15 ET by choselife3xHe might do hisself an injury. Brain spatter or somesuch. I hate cleaning troll off the boards.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
~Hahahaha
August 19, 2009 - 13:51 ET by choselife3xIf you keep backpedaling that fast you're going to trip over something and hurt your little noggin, junior.
I have about as much interest in reading your bio as I do in reading Michelle Malkin's life story.
Says the guy who has an entire blog devoted to Malkin. She'll never be interested, sorry.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
My blog is not devoted to
August 19, 2009 - 19:02 ET by JRJ08My blog is not devoted to Malkin's life story, sweetie. It's devoted to exposing her countless lies. Good grief, there really is a serious reading comprehension problem going on here.
Sure there is
August 19, 2009 - 19:05 ET by BlondeThe problem being no one reads your crappy blog you continue to shill, here.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
I hope he fails, too.
~Junior
August 19, 2009 - 19:24 ET by choselife3xHas an entire blog devoted to Michelle....but he's not obsessed with her, oh no. Poor Michelle, must be tiresome to take out all those restraining orders.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
Among many other things, you
August 29, 2009 - 18:22 ET by JRJ08Among many other things, you are full of bullshit. I have one blog entry written on Malkin.
Do you have a 30.06 mounted
August 19, 2009 - 13:58 ET by dvdaughtryDo you have a 30.06 mounted in the back of your pickup?
I don't, but soon I will have a CCW permit and have a .40 mounted on my hip--always (where legal of course =)
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
~Daughtry darling!
August 19, 2009 - 14:07 ET by choselife3xI have a cannon in my pickup, but I'm trying not to frighten the little guy off. ;-)
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
You got a pic? (of the
August 19, 2009 - 14:40 ET by dvdaughtryYou got a pic?
(of the cannon of course...)
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
~You'll love it
August 19, 2009 - 14:54 ET by choselife3x:-)
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
Speaking unFrawnkly
August 19, 2009 - 10:36 ET by Jack BauerYes you are: a fan of Barney Fwank, that is
That would explain how you missed this:
A plain-speaking, non-elitist citizen clamly asks a reasonable, pointed question about why he should trust him on financial matters, given his track record...
Fwanks response: instantly attacks Bush and the war in Iraq...
And when the crowd gets antsy because he isn't answering the question, attacks them for shouting at him...
It's all so transparent: Franks aim last night, using his usual sophomoric debating techniques, was to provoke anger with his demeanor and non-responses, then claim foul, so he could seem "reasonable."
You know, like the man who murders his parents, then asks for leniency because he's an orphan.
Fortunately, people aren't as stupid as Franks and his socialist ilk assume.
You're referring the classic
August 19, 2009 - 12:57 ET by JRJ08You're referring to the classic "when did you stop beating your wife?" question. The fact is that Frank was not promoting a heath care proposal which he had written. There are currently three PROPOSALS in Congress and Frank was trying to answer questions that people might have about them and help dispel some rumors. When that so-called "plain-speaking, non-elitist citizen clamly" asked his question, he was attacking Frank and trying to derail the discussion. It's called an ad hominem argument. Frank's conservative colleagues in Congress may not like some of his ideas, but NONE of them would call him stupid. What I would call you, based on your puerile sarcasm, is a homophobic ideologue who could care less about learning any fact which didn't confirm your own provincial and ignorant view of the world.
gee - I read your post and I had a deep thought--
August 19, 2009 - 13:04 ET by misterbilldrop dead, fool. But be sure to give Barney a big kiss first!!!!!
Good one, MisterBill. Ya got
August 19, 2009 - 13:22 ET by JRJ08Good one, MisterBill. Ya got me good with that one. See you on the playground.
Barney Franks not
August 19, 2009 - 13:19 ET by MightyMouthBarney Franks not stupid? How else would you describe someone who had a prostitution ring running out of his house "without his knowledge"?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
You sound like you were one
August 19, 2009 - 13:23 ET by JRJ08You sound like you were one of his regulars.
Ouch! snappy comeback!
August 19, 2009 - 13:31 ET by MightyMouthLooks like the NB regulars have met their match... finally!!
take a hike cupcake!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
"Take a hike, cupcake"? Now
August 19, 2009 - 13:39 ET by JRJ08"Take a hike, cupcake"? Now that was a brilliant rejoinder. I won't be messin' with you. Nosirreebob.
You're still "messin'"
August 19, 2009 - 15:16 ET by MightyMouthYou're still "messin'" with me bumpkin. Do you always have to have the last word?
Channeling JRJ08: No! I don't always have to have the last word!
MM: <rolls eyes>
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
~Tsk tsk tsk
August 19, 2009 - 13:39 ET by choselife3xBrutish. And vitriolic.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
Actually one of my best
August 19, 2009 - 13:36 ET by Jack BauerWhat sarcasm?
Not that I care what you think, but one of my best friends is gay. And I've just finished writing a very sympathetic play about Brian Epstein. Don't tell anyone, but he was homosexual, you know. Or "very faggy" as Lennon famously said.
But I'll be sure to pass over your dazzling observations to my friend so he can start to hate me.
And to pwove our fwiendship, we will welease one of our wong-doers! Who shall I welease? Woger or Fwanks? He sounds a notowious cwiminal.
Apologies to the Life of Bwarney.
Sounds to me like you have
August 19, 2009 - 13:44 ET by JRJ08Sounds to me like you have some ambivalence on the matter. Protesteth too much, methinks. If you don't like some of the things Franks has done politically, that's fair game. When you start with this Bwaney Fwank crap, you reveal a deeper bias. Does your friend know about your sexual confusion? Could be the reason why he's hanging around. Just sayin'.
Oh dear. The immature reply
August 19, 2009 - 13:48 ET by Jack BauerOh dear. The immature reply I half expected. Take a pill and chill. Watch Bruno.
~Shakespeare just rolled over and barfed
August 19, 2009 - 13:48 ET by choselife3xQuestion: Why do liberals use accusations of homosexuality as an insult when they claim there's nothing wrong with it?
Answer: They're hypocrites in clown costu-uh, sheeps clothing.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
Better question is, why do
August 19, 2009 - 18:09 ET by JRJ08Better question is, why do some conservatives (won't say who) make homophobic wisecracks then pull out their 'gay friends' resume in the very next post? By the way, darlin', being confused about your sexuality doesn't necessarily mean that you're gay. (You of all people should know that). Furthermore, the term "homosexuality" is only insulting to the person who thinks there's something wrong with it. So why get defensive about it?
Why are you so curious, eh?
August 19, 2009 - 18:11 ET by BlondeHmmm...methinks you think about it waaaay too much.
I draw numerous inferences from that. And other things.
I hope he fails, too.
Ah yes. You would be against
August 19, 2009 - 19:04 ET by JRJ08Ah yes. You would be against that thinking thing, wouldn't you.
Ha ha ha ha ha
August 19, 2009 - 19:08 ET by BlondeYou become clearer and clearer to me with every post you make.
I understand far more than you can imagine, and laugh at your every feeble attempt.
I hope he fails, too.
→ Jar-Jar
August 19, 2009 - 19:20 ET by Cool ArrowLooks to me like it's the left making jokes about conservatives being "Teabaggers"
Truth is, the left have their own set of jokes they make about homosexuals.
To quote a famous laugh line; Not that there's anything wrong with it.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
~Curiouser and curiouser
August 19, 2009 - 18:21 ET by choselife3xHere: Does your friend know about your sexual confusion? Could be the reason why he's hanging around. Just sayin'.
You imply that Jack is gay. It is being used as an insult, which means that you look down upon homosexuals. This makes you a hypocrite. Like Perez Hilton. OMO!! Perez, is that you?!
Furthermore, the term "homosexuality" is only insulting to the person
who thinks there's something wrong with it. (wait, isn't that what I said? Copycat.)So why get defensive about
it?
Defensive? Who was being defensive? Are you projecting again?
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
chose
August 19, 2009 - 19:03 ET by MrShy"you look down upon homosexuals"
Chose, it's a blind spot that utterly befuddles me. They DO NOT see the hypocrisy. I want so much to laugh, but it's really not funny anymore.
OK. I have to confess. The
August 19, 2009 - 19:06 ET by JRJ08OK. I have to confess. The Perez Hilton crack was way funny.
JR
August 19, 2009 - 19:10 ET by MrShyBut JR, aren't you finally starting to get it? Come on, I give you some credit, you're no dope.
We all pretty much feel the same way about homosexuality, which is.... well..... NOTHING, really. It's their business, and I'll hang with or be friends with them, even. But it.... is.... what.... it..... is.
chose & J
August 19, 2009 - 19:00 ET by MrShyHeterosexual liberals and heterosexual conservatives see homosexuality EXACTLY the same way. As something "queer". Something "alternative". Something not normal because it goes against nature, basically -- procreating and starting a family FROM procreating. Something we all crack fun, harmless jokes about in our circles, and probably always will. But something that, heck, anyone can be if they want. No big deal, and we are all free to do as we please.
Same on both sides, and they know it.
We just, for some wacky reason, would like marriage to be MARRIAGE, and somehow they morphed into this new redefinition movement to get behind the gay life style and make it the absolutely-accepted norm for all of us... or be damned!
Translation? They are going against their true feelings all to appease and be PC'y to it, as they need to be with just about everything. It's a warped way they think and feel.
Ah! The official
August 19, 2009 - 19:07 ET by JRJ08Ah! The official spokesperson for the 19th century has emerged. Welcome.
~Just wait
August 19, 2009 - 19:14 ET by choselife3xTill he challenges you to a duel.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
JR
August 19, 2009 - 19:20 ET by MrShyWait, it's more enlightening and sophisticated to champion the cause of men having sex with men and women with women (and no, I'm tempted, but no jokes on the latter.. but again, see? jokes?) ??
JR, you're still not getting it. You are the same as me. We both really don't carrrrrre. Gays have all the freedoms you and I have... kumbaya.... it's all good.
But alas, you look down on it as much as we do with your whimsical joking, which is no big deal. I'm sure GAYS FIND SOME OF THE JOKES FUNNY, too.
We've outed you there on this already (sorry for the pun), so you're looking stupid now.
EDIT: You see? AGAIN... I cracked a "pun" joke, about outing you... and I apologized, notice. You'd do the same. It's your nature. Get in touch with YOUR nature, and stop being a libturd.
JR
August 19, 2009 - 19:53 ET by MrShyAgain, the Hypocrite Who Doesn't Even Know It with more gay "jokes" intended to "offend".
We need someone to count all of these. Chose? Free?
I'll venture to guess that liberals, deep down, have even more disdain for gays and their culture than conservatives. That is, not a whole lot at all to begin with. Again, what are we going on about? Gays are doing just fine. What nonsense the whole "debate" is.
"on what planet do you spend most of your time"
August 19, 2009 - 11:03 ET by katainkent"trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to have an arguement with a dining room table"
"who do you think payed for this war - Santa Claus?"
Stay classy Barney. Stay classy.
This is about Healthcare INSURANCE reform on the part of the government - that is already struggling with two failing healthcare payment systems. They need to expand their pyramid scheme to keep it afloat. Taking money from the people who rarely see the doctor - who don't choose to buy health insurance - to try and prop up the aging population and failing systems of social security and medicare. Inevitably the regulatory environment that only the money-printing government could possibly survive in will crush private industry. When the government has control of the health care system (6% of our economy) rationing is inevitable. To say it won't become a tool to control the voting populace is being naive.
So, no people aren't making a no step leap from socialised medicine to gas chambers.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. " - this is the new "foundation" for Obama's "pillars"
___________________________________________
"The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" - HR 3200 (Health Care Bill) Pg. 203. Ln 14 & 15
Health care in this country
August 29, 2009 - 18:34 ET by JRJ08Health care in this country should not be a for-profit industry. It's immoral to have one class of people getting the best medical care in the world, while the rest of the country either gets second-rate care or no care at all. The people in this blog rage about protecting capitalism from the socialists, when all they really want is for a black president to fail. That's what matters most to them. They couldn't care less about the welfare of other Americans who are less fortunate than them. Most of the content of this blog is driven by obsolete ideology, bigotry and pure greed. The rest is just plain ignorance and anger. People who will fight for the right to own assault weapons, even though thousands of innocent people, including kids, are being killed by them every year. People who want the president to fail just because he's black, but who lack the guts to admit it. People who absolutely hate anybody who doesn't agree with them. The seeds of fascism are sown here everyday.
I Can't Stand Those Liberal Mobs Either!
August 19, 2009 - 01:11 ET by The7SticksI thought these conservative mobs that keep whining about something they have no idea about was annoying enough, but the liberal mobs take the cake. Now when I said I was one of those Bush-haters, I was a Bush-hater in private, which meant the extent of which is that I wrote bad cartoons and poetry about him having a homosexual love affair with Osama bin Laden. No, I'm not making it up. That was how bad that liberal ideology infected my head, and for that, I am sorry. At least I can say I never participated in any of those anti-war protests that occured. Truthfully, I think those people are creeps. Just the day before at the Depeche Mode concert, I saw all the usual hagglers you see hawking their merchandise outside the Hollywood Bowl. Some of them were those people who sell DVDs like Loose Change or all that other conspiracy-theory bullcrap. They seriously scared me, especially after dark when the concert was over and you were following all the crowds out of the Bowl. I had to ask a police officer to help me find my dad's car because I was that scared straight.
So in conclusion, I have no use for either liberal mobs nor conservative mobs. I just wanted to hear the music.