Networks Ignore Chappaquiddick Anniversary; NPR’s Rudin Gets 'Ugly' Mail for Even Blogging About It

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While the big liberal media usually find it hard to skip any news related to the Kennedy family, ABC, CBS and NBC breathed not a word about Saturday’s 40th anniversary of Chappaquiddick. On the night of July 18, 1969, Senator Edward Kennedy left a party with 28-year-old Mary Jo Kopechne and later drove off a bridge. Kennedy left the scene with Kopechne still in the submerged vehicle; he did not call the police until the following morning.

The Saturday and Sunday New York Times and Washington Post also had nothing about Chappaquiddick. Several newspapers did carry a brief, if inadvertent, mention, since on Saturday the Associated Press made it the day’s “Highlight in History” in their re-cap of big news events that happened on a July 18, beating out the start of the Great Fire of Rome in A.D. 64 and the death of naval hero John Paul Jones in 1792.

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But it wasn’t a complete blackout. The new Newsweek (cover date, July 27) features Ted Kennedy on the cover, touting a lengthy essay the Senator wrote in favor of universal health care. Inside the magazine, editor Jon Meacham touted Kennedy as a man whose name “will never slip unremembered into the mists of history,” but talks about Chappaquiddick as a great flaw. “Kennedy's life is more compelling, and more instructive, if it is seen not as the inevitable unfolding of the destiny of a man devoted to public service but as the story of a search for redemption,” Meacham argued.

And over at NPR’s “Political Junkie” blog, Political Editor Ken Rudin wrote Friday about the Chappaquiddick anniversary. He effusively began: “There is no one currently serving in the U.S. Senate who is as respected as Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts. Despite his unabashed liberalism, he is revered by Republicans as well, for his intelligence, decency and willingness to work across the aisle.”

But after receiving a lot of “ugly” mail from NPR readers over the weekend, Rudin on Monday felt the need to justify his noting of the anniversary: “Chappaquiddick happened. Whatever Kennedy has accomplished in his latter years — and he became a true giant in the Senate — it was a signficant blot on his record. At the time, it said volumes about his maturity and judgment. More significantly, it cost a young woman her life. It doesn't erase what he has done since. But it's part of the record.”

As my colleague Brent Baker noted, ABC and NBC had no problem promoting Kennedy’s Newsweek health care essay in their Sunday night newscasts. Yet even with Kennedy inserting himself into the weekend’s news cycle, the networks — and much of the rest of the press — chose to remain silent about the anniversary of a scandal thought almost certainly would have driven any other politician from office.

Here’s more of how Newsweek’s Meacham addressed Chappaquiddick as part of Kennedy’s legacy:

In the sentiment of the moment — Ted Kennedy is dying, and the subject of his essay for us, health care, is his last great battle — we do him, and ourselves, a kind of disservice if we smooth over the rougher elements of his long story. Forty years ago to the day that we closed this essay, Kennedy drove off a bridge at Chappaquiddick in the darkness, crashing into the water and leaving his passenger, Mary Jo Kopechne, behind as he swam to the surface and left the scene. He did not report the accident until morning; only then was her body found. (When I was growing up in the South, Kennedy and Tip O'Neill were familiar Republican targets, and I remember a bumper sticker that read MORE PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN TED KENNEDY'S CAR THAN AT THREE MILE ISLAND. Not exactly subtle, but there we are.)

Kennedy's life is more compelling, and more instructive, if it is seen not as the inevitable unfolding of the destiny of a man devoted to public service but as the story of a search for redemption. He was only 36 when RFK was assassinated, and 37 when he crashed at Chappaquiddick. His days of irresponsibility lasted for two decades more. Into the early 1990s he embodied the vices of the Kennedy clan more than the virtues, drinking and womanizing to such a degree that he delivered a speech at the school named for his brother at Harvard acknowledging his personal shortcomings and promising to address them.

It is fair, then, to note that when Kennedy calls health-care reform "the cause of my life," he is talking about a life that is hardly a model of sobriety and statesmanship. The important thing, though, is that it is a life that has included the sober and the statesmanlike. The complexity of Kennedy's legacy — the good and the bad, the political achievements and the personal disasters — makes him an accessible, human figure, and a strangely inspirational one. For if Ted Kennedy can successfully battle demons and drink, conquering selfishness just enough to work through the decades for causes other than the satisfaction of his own appetites, then the rest of us can, too....

Over on NPR’s “Political Junkie” blog on Friday, Ken Rudin approached the issue by first touting how Kennedy is “revered” by senators of both parties, but even that was apparently not enough to satisfy NPR readers. Here’s an excerpt of his blog on Friday, followed by his Monday update about the “ugly” mail he received over the weekend:

There is no one currently serving in the U.S. Senate who is as respected as Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts. Despite his unabashed liberalism, he is revered by Republicans as well, for his intelligence, decency and willingness to work across the aisle.

The discovery that he has brain cancer, and is seriously ill, has added to the depth of feelings about Ted.

We do not know how much longer we are going to have him. Strangely, even as we lost Jack at such a young age, and Bobby even younger, the thought of losing Ted Kennedy, even at 77, seems way too soon.

Needless to say, those feelings of respect and reverence were not always there. And they certainly weren't there 40 years ago tomorrow — July 18, 1969.

On that Friday night, a car driven by Kennedy went over the Dike Bridge off Chappaquiddick Island, on Martha's Vineyard, Mass. The passenger in the car, a 28-year old woman from New Jersey named Mary Jo Kopechne, drowned (or died from asphyxiation). Ted — Teddy then — escaped from the car, tried to save Kopechne in vain, swam to shore, walked back to the cottage where he was staying, and conferred with some aides, including his cousin, Joseph Gargan. They went back to the scene of the accident to try and rescue Kopechne, but failed....

There is a wincing in my face as I type this. Kennedy himself may be close to the end, and to remind readers of this incident now may seem ghoulish and cruel.

But it's an incident that happened. And it was significant. It was the reason he was unseated as Senate Majority Whip in 1971 — by West Virginia's Robert Byrd — and it played a major role in his failure to win the Democratic presidential nomination in 1980....

For the longest time, Chappaquiddick was a metaphor for all that was wrong with Ted Kennedy. He was a playboy. A lightweight. He got to the Senate in 1962 because he was the president's brother, and moved up as a potential leader — and potential president — for the same reason.

But after the accident, after his humbling loss to Byrd and defeat at the hands of President Jimmy Carter in 1980, after a decade of skirt chasing (much of the time with then-fellow bachelor Chris Dodd), and after a 1991 incident in Florida — when he went to a bar with his son (Patrick Kennedy) and nephew (William Kennedy Smith) that ended in a woman accusing Smith of rape — Kennedy seemed to change. He became a true, serious, and respected legislator. He immersed himself in Senate business, especially in overhauling the nation's health-care system....

Rudin’s Monday blog:

I received a lot of mail, a good percentage of it ugly, over my Friday post about the 40th anniversary of Chappaquiddick — the shorthand description of the July 1969 accident in which a car Sen. Ted Kennedy was driving went over a bridge, resulting in the death of a young woman, Mary Jo Kopechne.

Much of the mail took me to task for having the insensitivity (their word) of reminding people of the accident as Kennedy is suffering from brain cancer. Others wondered why I would mention this when "what Bush and Cheney did was much worse" (their words). As if one thing had anything to do with the other.

With Kennedy approaching the end of his 46-year Senate career — the third longest in history — I was aware that this post might be considered controversial. At the same time, I balanced the post by talking about the Massachusetts Democrat's long career, his political highs and lows, and his legislative accomplishments. Anyone who has been covering politicians for as long as I have knows that there are good and bad in everyone, and to ignore the bad stuff because it might be painful to remember is a disservice to history....

Chappaquiddick happened. Whatever Kennedy has accomplished in his latter years — and he became a true giant in the Senate — it was a significant blot on his record. At the time, it said volumes about his maturity and judgment. More significantly, it cost a young woman her life. It doesn't erase what he has done since. But it's part of the record.

—Rich Noyes is Research Director at the Media Research Center.


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Doesn't really matter. 

Doesn't really matter.  Chappaquiddick kept him from making a run for the White House.  We all know it.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).

For God's sake!

Leave Teddy alone! He did everything he could!!

uh..i...just threw up in my mouth a little (alot).

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

We have Teddy to thank for this too...

...this forever changed the balance of European vs. Central/South American immigration ratios...via la Raza! 

"A Boston Globe article attributed Barack Obama’s win in the 2008 U.S. Presidential election to a marked reduction over the preceding decades in the percentage of whites in the American electorate, attributing this demographic change to the Act. The article quoted Simon Rosenberg, president and founder of the New Democrat Network, as having said that the Act is "the most important piece of legislation that no one’s ever heard of," and that it "set America on a very different demographic course than the previous 300 years." "- heavily supported by United States Senator Ted Kennedy

v

Ted Kennedy is a killer, a traitor, and a liar.

May his trip to Hell be painless and quick.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Come on, give the man a

Come on, give the man a little sympathy!

Chappaquiddick was just another in the long line of tragedies that struck the Kennedy family.

We all know how Ted would be comforting her in her old age, had she lived.....

Shame on the people of Massachusetts who kept re-electing him!

Mary Jo Kopechne was not available for comment -James Taranto

 

Poster Boy?

Isn't Teddy Kennedy the poster boy for current day democrats?  His total lack of principles or scruples but total likeability seem to epitomize today's liberals.  His drinking and his wife's drinking set a perfect example for their son who is also a drunk.  Progressives (read permissives) see this as a positive do they not?  Most of us knew what Teddy was made of by the way he handled himself at Chappaquiddick. It doesn't matter though does it?  The democrats love him and Meacham and his apologists now want to deify him.  God bless you Mary Jo.  You don't have long to wait now before you get to watch Teddy tumble into the abyss of hell.  Your memory will live on Teddy.  Just not in the way you and your sycophants imagine.

The man was an onion...

This odious man has been stricken with age and disease after a lifetime of successful villainy.  We all have only one entrance into this life, and in the end, we all have only one exit.  As one of God's children, he has my pity for the bad choices he's made, for we all need mercy in the end.

I won't miss him all that much though, I confess.  My only real worry is that once he's gone, the liberals and democrats will use their corrupt organizations to put someone in his place who's even WORSE. 

The man is guilty of DUI vehicular homicide and is directly responsible for the death of that poor woman.  

God have mercy on his soul - his money, his media spin doctors, his
lies and excuses will be useless before the final bar of judgement
where he will have to face both God and Mary Jo and answer for what
he's done.  

Ted pushed us to the edge of the cliff, Obama may shove us over

If there is one person alive who bears the brunt of the responsibility for why this nation finds itself in its current precarious fix, it is Sen. Edward M. Kennedy.

This man has spent his entire career pushing, shoving and kicking this country so far lefward that we are now quite literally standing on the brink of national destruction, both economically and financially.

What is more, Ted Kennedy had much to do with the election of Barrack Hussein Obama, who just might manage to complete Kennedy's "life's work" before he leaves office.

This hideous man from America's most dysfunctional, hypocritical family should be reviled, not revered.

-Dave

"...stimulus plan is 'working exactly as we had anticipated.'" - PrezBO

If Kennedy were not a Kennedy he would not have been re-elected.

He rode into DC on his brothers' coat tails and he was able to stay in that town because of their legacies.

ekslib--

If Kennedy were not a Kennedy he would have done jail time.

Exactly Kat... ...as he

Exactly Kat...

...as he should have!

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

My local paper has a

My local paper has a special insert today...a reproduction of their front page 40 years ago when Apollo 11 landed on the moon. Lo and behold, also on the front page: "Ted Escapes Car Wreck" with the byline "Passenger Drowns; Charge Pending".

Of course we all know what a joke the "charge pending" part is, but I think it's interesting to read how Ted kept saying, "I have no recollection of how I got out of the car" and "I was in a state of shock."  I'm sorry, did I say it was interesting?  I meant nauseating.

Teddy like his

buddy slick willie clintinioni had to get rid of that woman, he is just a little more serious about being rid of someone than bill was. slick just lied and had others do his dirty work, Teddy did his own dirty work and then lied and lied and lied...........

And if I aint mistaken he has nephews and cousins and other such rabble relatives that do the same thing all in the name of bootleg kennedy.

"No Recovery until Nobama!!!!!" me and at least 59,934,786 other Americans.

I don't mean to belittle or

I don't mean to belittle or understate the culpability Kennedy rightfully has for this incident.  He is 100% to blame and it's difficult not to fault the aura of privilege and entitlement that surrounds the Kennedys in general for the fact that he was basically exonerated in the popular imagination.

But as far as media inattention 40 years later goes...why exactly is this newsworthy?  What about it is significant or even relevant?

There is always a but

There is always a 'but' coming when it's from the left,  you didn't disappoint Jason...

Because it is history, Jason, real history, a woman was left to die...and die she did, while she was in an air-pocket for hours they figured...waiting for her white knight to come and get her the hell out of there.

He was busy calling lawyers, daddy dearest, handlers etc etc after he got to the hotel room, and either did or didn't sleep it off beforehand.

What part of that do you on the left not understand?

I call it homicide....others have a more polite term to use...not me.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

The fact that he consulted

The fact that he consulted with his aides, instead of freaking calling 911 when a woman's life was on the line, is what really disturbs me.  It is definitely negligent homicide in my view. 

 

Negligent homicide,

Negligent homicide, possibly manslaughter, depending on various interpretations of the law - not to mention the skill of your lawyer.

I'm not denying this.  It's not pertinent to the point I'm making.

And the statue of

And the statue of limitations still has not run out.  Your point?

Negligent homicide,

Negligent homicide, possibly manslaughter, depending on various interpretations of the law - not to mention the skill of your lawyer.

I'm not denying this.  It's not pertinent to the point I'm making.

If IT is not newsworthy,

If IT is not newsworthy, certainly all the "Teddy Retrospectives" ongoing are also not newsworthy.

Nor any other commemoration of any other anniversary such as the Moon shot.

I'll second that.

I'll second that.

Leave it to you BT...acting

Leave it to you BT...acting like I didn't spell out that I have no doubts about Kennedy's guilt or the severity of what he did and thinking that your ever-so-vivid word picture has anything to do with anything.

Indeed, Kennedy has been legally released from the incident.  Does it bear on anything of even remote relevance today?  If so, I'd be curious to hear about it.  

My point here is not to defend Kennedy.  I loathe, nay despise, the lionization of the Kennedys.  But to accuse the press of bias for not reporting on something that would have no purpose other than providing fodder for those who get off on the idea of a prominent liberal's embarassment is just stupid.

Cue the multiple posts of "Well if he was a Republican, they'd crucify him on every anniversary of Mary Jo's death."

MsM = bias, liars, scum, in-the-tank-for-Obama, etc.  Yeah yeah.  Too bad conservatism can't seem to get beyond their victim complex.  Everything that goes wrong, it's because the media's against you.  For God's sake, they won't even report on a 40-year-old event that has zero relevance today.  The horror.

...and leave it to you

...and leave it to you Jason to put forth an asinine question asking  why is it relevant now.

Typical leftists....they want real history changed, spun or omitted all together...because after-all, what does it matter?

Watch the History Channel sometime, it will be infuriating at times, depending on the show/documentary etct.

If you don't understand this Jason, I can't help any further.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Well why is it relevant

Well why is it relevant now?  Yes, it's "history" in the sense that it happened in the past.  But what good, what pragmatic aim is attained by dredging it up just because it's anniversary has come along?  Explain to me what important purpose the MsM is disregarding by not making a big deal of this.

JasonC and liberals

Liberals play smart, when they need to... and play dumb, when they need to.

 

He committed a crime!

"Well why is it relevant now?"

Kennedy committed a crime!  He's never been brought to justices for that crime!  Do you really believe that it is not "relevent" that he's never faced justice for what he did?  The passing of time doesn't absolve him.  The passing of time without him facing a criminal trial to answer for his crime actually makes things worse as it nullifies the very concept that justice is universal and that the laws apply to everyone.  Do you understand this basic concept?

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I agree, it's shameful that

I agree, it's shameful that his connections and his family name got him out of having to face responsibility.

So your feeling is that the media is bound - even though Kennedy has been legally, technically exonerated - to remind us about this every single year?

Again, unless you see such reporting as an opening to having Kennedy retroactively punished or unseated from the Senate, then what would be the point?

Is anyone who's even remotely cognizant of politics and history unaware of the Chappaquiddick incident?  I learned of it when I was 9.  It's not like this is "news".

Yes

"So your feeling is that the media is bound - even though Kennedy has been legally, technically exonerated - to remind us about this every single year?"

Yes, as he's a public figure who committed a crime. We can't allow the illegal actions of elected officials to pass into obscurity, for those who forget the lessons of the past are doomed to repeat them.

As for his supposed "exoneration," that's not true as he was never exonerated..  A guilty plea does not exonerate you, as that is an admittance of guilt.  Only an acquittal can exonerate you from your crime.

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Do you even know what "exonerated" means?

You keep using the term "exonerated," but i wonder if you even understand what that term means.

ex·on·er·ate  (g-zn-rt)

tr.v. ex·on·er·at·ed, ex·on·er·at·ing, ex·on·er·ates

1. To free from blame.

2. To free from a responsibility, obligation, or task.

 

 

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Correct

In no way does 'not indicted' = 'exonerated.'

Well it's pretty much

Well it's pretty much accurate then.  Kennedy holds no legal responsibility at this point in time.  I agree that the fact that he was never indicted in the first place is disturbing.

Accurate? No it isn't, Jason

 Accurate?  No, it isn't.  You're just reaching for straws to save your lost argument. Kennedy wasn't legally exonerated. That would take a pardon or an acquittal.  Would you say that Nixon was legality exonerated for the Watergate incident as he was never charged with a crime?  Thing it though, Jason, think it through carefully. 

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Is D-Day "news?"

"It's not like this is "news"."

Are you seriously arguing that the passage of time means that something is no longer news, that's it's no longer relevant? That's absurd!

I wonder if you feel this way when the "news" mentions D-Day every year?  Or Pearl Harbor, a "date that will live in infamy?  Or how about the Fourth of July?  Should the "news" stop reporting on our independence simply because it all happened over two hundred years ago?

I can't believe that you're suggesting that we reduce the past into obscurity simply because it IS the past! 

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Wow. Comparing D-Day &

Wow.

Comparing D-Day & July 4th to Chappaquiddick.

That's cute.

They're both in the past

They're both in the past, right?  So, how isn't the comparison valid?  Nice try at dismissing the argument.  Too bad for you it didn't work.

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So what you're saying is

So what you're saying is that if it happened, it's news.

Oooook...

Sure, if it involved people

Sure, if it involved people DYING! Are you saying that this ISN'T newsworthy, like Jason?

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Cobra

Don't you understand? Jason, earlier, explained that he already knows enough about Chappaquiddick... that he's been hearing about it since the age of 9, or somesuch. Also, keep in mind, many others have heard about this incident ad nauseam.

So, to review, the MSM no longer needs to shine a light on this every -- single -- year .... Jason and many others got the message.

 

Care to place a bet, Shy

On the media coverage of the "anniversary of the death of"  Michael Jackson and Princess Diana?

I mean it's been what, three weeks and they're still jabbering about Jackson.  Last I heard, he's still dead.

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Blonde

Yes, when people are dead, we mention them at every anniversary. Now, not to sound cold here, but when the actual person is dead, there isn't much relevance to what's going on in the world presently.

Ted Kennedy did not die in 1969. A passenger in his car, while he was drunk, DID, and he did things to cover up what happened in the 24 hours that followed. Ted stayed with us for 40 years, serving the public in the Senate. One of the top priorities when judging and voting for a politician is..... wait for it.... their character!

 

Yes, and the people of MA

Yes, and the people of MA have demonstrated time and again that they will keep him as a senator regardless.  And again, if the media wishes to point it out every year in the vain hope that a significant number of people will suddenly have an epiphany along the lines of "Wait, my senator did what?!" then fine.  I'm not saying it would be wrong of them to do so.  I am saying, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, that 40 years later, accusing those who choose not to do so of a lack of journalistic integrity is pretty weak.  

JasonC

"Yes, and the people of MA have demonstrated time and again that they will keep him as a senator regardless."

Yes, and the partisan, selectively-blind libtard people of historically hard-left MA have demonstrated time and again that they will foolishly keep him as a senator regardless.

Am at a loss as to why you even went there.

"And again, if the media wishes to point it out every year in the vain hope that a significant number of people will suddenly have an epiphany along the lines of "Wait, my senator did what?!" then fine"

Jason, seriously, how dense are you stubbornly going to remain on this issue? Year after year -- decade after decade -- new people grow up and old people die off, and there are constantly new people out there to learn about relevant happenings of the past.... and certainly when it's an anniversary of said happening.

"40 years later" means NOTHING, when Ted Kennedy is still ALIVE (not for long, but...) and still serving, barely. 400 years? Okay, then it's another matter.

Although, again, even if George Washington drove some poor woman into a lake while driving his horse/buggy drunk, that would actually be relevant, still, as it points to the character of one of our founding fathers and someone who served this country, as did Ted Kennedy.... WHO IS STILL ALIVE and having some effect on our policies, i.e. universal healthcare.

 

Yesterday's News

So, I guess Jason believes that yesterday's news is no longer  pertinent. I'll remember that the next time the "news' reports on Martin Luther King Jr. Day and the accomplishments he made over 40 years ago.

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right Cobra

... and it's not like this Ted Kennedy guy went on to do anything after 1969...

 

Nothing newsworthy

Well, nothing newsworthy, apparently.

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JasonC logic

 

I learned of it when I was 9.  It's not like this is "news".

 

Ya got it love it, people.

Yes, we're busting your chops today. You're always an easy target, but today it's especially so. :)

 

JC

Zero relevance? The only way it's not relevant is if your main objective is to 'lionize' the Kennedy's; especially this particular Kennedy. Is that not what the MSM consistantly tries to do? You keep trying to sell stuff that I just ain't gonna buy.

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

If Mary Jo were your

If Mary Jo were your sister, friend, mother, girlfriend, cousin, whatever, would that make it more relevant for you even though it happened 40 years ago?

Regarding the "conservatism.....victim complex" wisecrack:  how many more times are we going to hear about Nixon & Watergate?  "Read my lips: no new taxes!" GWB supposedly "lying" about WMDs in Iraq?  Hurricane Katrina? the GOP and conservatives accused of taking away Medicare and Social Security for the elederly at every election cycle? and, of course, most recently, Michael Jackson's miserable life?  When will these perennnially rehashed events achieve zero-relevance status, if ever?

Its called "Exposing and

Its called "Exposing and combating liberal media bias", its what they do.

 

If stupidity got us into this mess,
then why can't it get us out?
--Will Rogers

"popular imagination"

This isn't the popular imagination we are talking about, it is called the LAW.  But, according to liberals, they are one and the same. Idiots. 

 

 

"The preservation of the sacred faith of liberty & the destiny of the republican model of gov't. are justly considered deeply...finally, staked on the experiment entrusted to the American people."G. Washington's 1st inaugural address

Well in this case he has

Well in this case he has been exonerated by both, more so than pretty much any non-Kennedy would have been.  That was my point.

I'll refrain from calling you an idiot in return.

Exonerated? How?

He's been exonerated?  How?  He's never faced charges, let alone a trial!  Time doesn't exonerate crime, juries do!

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This news is relevant

This news is relevant because it shows Ted Kennedy had and still has character issues. Had he called on first responders at the time of the accident, that girl may have lived. Was Uncle Teddy intoxicated?

It is far better to be three hours early than one minute late.

Yeah, you're probably right

Yeah, you're probably right that he could have saved her life, and I'd wager a lot he'd been knocking back the Scottish that night, but I don't see how it's "news".  What, is he going to be retroactively punished or kicked out of the senate because suddenly enough people realize that he did a ghastly thing 40 years ago?

This "story" would do nothing but cynically provide ammunition for those who wish to project his 4-decades-old failure onto liberalism as a whole.  It would have no practical or material purpose beyond that.

JasonC

DesertCop wrote this, above:

"This news is relevant because it shows Ted Kennedy had and still has character issues."

"This news is relevant because it shows Ted Kennedy had and still has character issues."

"This news is relevant because it shows Ted Kennedy had and still has character issues."

Yes, I thought I'd repeat it a few times. Is it sinking in yet, Jason? The horrible incident speaks DIRECTLY to his character and integrity -- to a man who proceeded to serve the people of this country for the next 40 years in politics.

 

MrS... ...and the left

MrS...

...and the left has the audacity to try to cram the health bill down our throats as some kind of a guilt-ridden tribute to this no-good murdering louse, whether intentional or not.... you have to know I am putting it kindly here, politely, and all that jazz!

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

...

JC, I think it's mainly because if Kennedy had been a conservative Republican, Chappaquidick would not only be on the list, it would LEAD the list. You know it as well as I do.

The double standard is what's irksome.

dane & bt

Yes, he does know it, but he threatened to reprimand us if we "went there", with the "well, if he was a Republican"... so sorry, Jason.

Again, like you're saying (and like I'm so sure, deep down, he knows), the significance and relevance the media would still be applying to it, 40 years later, would be on such a scale it's not funny. And, I just can't see Jason running to this hypothetical (R) Kennedy's defense if the shoe was on that foot.

BT, yeah, I never liked the guy myself. I was barely alive when that all happened, but the more I learn about the details, the more outraged I am. It tells me the media were certainly providing plenty of cover back then for Dems, too, seeing as he went on to have this lengthy and "storied" career as senator.

 

Strange word choices,

Strange word choices, Shy.

Threatened?  More like "accurately predicted".

Defended Kennedy?  Have another look.  I'm defending the media, not the Ted.

What is there to defend

What is there to defend when it comes to the msm Jason regarding this or anything else for that matter...surely you jest.

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JasonC

"Defended Kennedy?  Have another look.  I'm defending the media, not the Ted."

Um, you know what I meant by running to Kennedy's defense... defense of how the media was handling the incident. Don't be intellectually dishonest. The last person to be this with me lit a fuse, and you don't want that. :)

And yes, you did accurately predict it, and the whole point of calling the MSM out on NO COVERAGE (did you see the other post? -- none of the major news shows uttered a peep) of this at all is why we have to point out to you the other-foot scenario. But, again, you don't seem to argue this anyway, so you just want to bark about your wonderful crystal ball skills.

 

Oh, whatever will I do if

Oh, whatever will I do if Shy decides to bring the heat?

No, I didn't know what you meant.  You said I defended Kennedy.  In fact, I've been roundly critical of him in this thread.  What I've defended is the media's decision not to harp on his widely known responsibility for a young woman's death in 1969, on the grounds that it would serve no reasonable purpose.  Those are quite different things, and it's not my job to discern what you "really meant" when you post an inaccurate statement.

JasonC

No, I didn't know what you meant.... it's not my job to discern what you "really meant"

Aaaah, *sigh*, Jason. You just want to muck things up, because you get pinned and cornered every time.

YES, I know for a fact you completely knew what I meant. Knock it off. What else would I mean, when we're engaged in a discussion NOT about Kennedy's wrong doing, but the incident as it pertains to the MSM and bias/non-bias, on a thread -- and a Web site -- that's about the mainstream news media? AND, our dialogue was solely about this, and not about Kennedy's actions, so unless you're a really dim lightbulb (and I know you're not) you're being dishonest to cover yourself.

In addition to lying to yourself and to me (yet again), you also fabricated a quote. I never used the word "really". I clearly wrote, "You know what I meant", not "You know what I really meant." The distinction is (and again, you know all of this but you're playing stupid, and I'm stupidly playing into your hands and wasting time here), my accusation to you was direct, that there is only one topic here -- the handling of Kennedy's 1969 incident by the MSM.

As for the heat that I'm capable of bringing, as long as you don't fly off the handle from me doing something as reprehensible as calling you "intellectually dishonest", I think we'll be okay. You're skin is plenty thick, unlike some others (not to mention, being called that does not require thick skin at all.)

 

Well including 'really' in

Well including 'really' in the quotation was my mistake, but it didn't exactly dramatically alter the point of your post, did it?

What else would I mean, when we're engaged in a discussion NOT
about Kennedy's wrong doing, but the incident as it pertains to the MSM
and bias/non-bias, on a thread -- and a Web site -- that's about the
mainstream news media? AND, our dialogue was solely about this, and not
about Kennedy's actions,

Well I'm glad you realize this at least, unlike the several posters who completely missed this point and began hysterically posting about the horror of the incident itself.

JasonC

"...it didn't exactly dramatically alter"

Maybe, maybe not.

It did alter it, though. Enough.

 

No reasonable purpose?

You find "no reasonable purpose" to remind people that a sitting Congressman, one who MAKES LAWS, broke the law and let a woman drown, a very horrible way to die?

You find "no reasonable purpose" to remind people that Kennedy got away with this atrocity, when others, those who don't have the Kennedy connections,  would have spent time in prison for the same situation? 

You find "no reasonable purpose" to remind people that there are consequences for our actions, especially negative consequences like the death of an innocent individual?  

Tell, me, Jason, what "reasonable purpose" do you believe it would take to remind people of Kennedy's abhorrent past actions?  Simple because they happened in the past is not an excuse.

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Cobra

And not to beat a dead horse on this, but remember that strong argument by Jason, about how young he was when it all happened... you know, again, way back in the past?

It's akin to why we all excused Obama for being pals and throwing a party with terrorist/America-hating Bill Ayers. For cryin' out loud, Obama, too, was only about 9 then. What this Ayers guy did (and still defends today) was so 1960's and 1970's. It's almost the 2010's, and Obama liking the 2008/9 version of Ayers goes to show what good character Ears has.

 

You ARE defending Kennedy.

"I'm defending the media, not the Ted."

You ARE defending Kennedy, You do so every time you use the word "exonerated."

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Yes, he does know it, but

Yes, he does know it, but he threatened to reprimand us if we "went there", with the "well, if he was a Republican"... so sorry, Jason.

Oh, no we went down the road!  We must go on our knees and beg forgiveness from the great almighty Jason!  /sarc

Please... we all know of the double standard, so what do we care if some little twerp wants to reprimand us?

But a twenty year drunk driving charge against George W Bush...

...plus a refusal to account for his behavior, to the satisfaction of a hostile media, forty years ago....

...plus allegations of preferential treatment while in the Air National Guard forty years ago, by a (formerly) mainstream journalist using as 'proof' an obviously forged document...

are all unceasingly and interminably pounded on by Democrats and the MSM as reason to keep him from the Presidency?

Manslaughter, especially while intoxicated, should never be forgotten, especially when the killer has escaped accountability.

And yes, Senator Kennedy, you are a killer.

Hell is waiting, Senator.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Those issues regarding Bush

Those issues regarding Bush were legitimate given his social conservatism and stance on foreign policy, respectively, and were raised when he was running for president and for re-election.  They were legitimate character issues.  If T.K. was running for the first time, I'd say the same of Chappaquiddick.  But I have not seen the MsM rehashing Bush's shortcomings every time an anniversary rolls around.  What would be the point? 

Please point out where this has happened if this is the argument you're going to try to advance here.

Priceless. You just made my point, Jason.

It was because Bush was a conservative.

"Legitimate character issues", Jason?

 -ONE drunk driving arrest. (I noticed Kennedy had little problem with his drunk driving arrest...Patrick, not Teddy)

And innuendoes, allegations, and other completely trumped up and fabricated charges supported by falsified and forged sources.

Now let's talk about 'legitimate character issues', Jason:

For Democrats, military service, real military service, (not just flying supersonic tactical nuclear weapons delivery aircraft like George W Bush did in the Guard), is essential in Presidential candidates...except when their candidates haven't got any.

Clinton the draft dodger ran, in both campaigns, against genuine war heroes Bob Dole and George H. W. Bush.

Yet Democrats not only supported the draft dodger, but minimized both GOP candidates service.

Clinton sexually harassed women. He admitted smoking marijuana. He lied, perjured and obstructed justice.

Yet his 'character issues' didn't prevent Democrats and the MSM from stonewalling and ignoring the evidence, to prevent his impeachment conviction.

John Kerry (remember him?) was 'outed' as a liar and a fraud by two hundred or more fellow servicemen, highly decorated combat veterans with multiple in-country tours tours and multiple real Hearts.

One of these veterans was a retired Judge Advocate General in the US Navy.

In fact Democrats, (who suddenly remembered that military service was once again 'essential' in a candidate), could only disparage their testimony by accusing every single one of these two hundred-plus servicemen of lying while Kerry, the proven fraud and liar, had been telling the truth all along.

And to their eternal shame, Democrats today still slander two hundred honorable and courageous heroes as liars only because they dared to contradict John Kerry, the proven liar.

Remember that the next time Democrats tell you they 'support the troops' (unless they get in the way of the Democrats' agenda, that is).

And Obama admitted to use of cocaine and other drugs. He spent one thousand Sundays listening to a black racist, antisemitic, anti-American preacher who was so paranoid and obscene he had to be 'bleeped' at the pulpit...but he never heard Reverend Wright's disgusting rhetoric?

Obama was and is a serial liar who wipes his butt with the Constitution...but he has no 'legitimate character issues'?

Beautiful example of double standards there, Jason.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

"Priceless" indeed

A great big thank you tailgunner!  I rarely post but I am a daily reader.  That was very enjoyable.  I'm gonna go ahead and make some popcorn, but I doubt JasonC will return. Just in case, I'll be ready! 

Hey Nay, not to interrupt

Hey Nay, not to interrupt you and Tg here...just wanted to say post more often!

Btw...Jason will return...after he get's his latest talking points, he may have to wait until tomorrow though...but he'll be back.

You can count on it.

I don't have "talking

I don't have "talking points", BT.  I have an argument to make, and TG hasn't exactly shot it down yet.

Oh, I think so, considering

Oh, I think so, considering that you wasted a post saying that.  Got nothing new to add?

I wasted a post?  So what

I wasted a post?  So what does that make yours and BT's?

LOL Jason...I knew you'd be

LOL Jason...I knew you'd be back today carrying this on and on.

Have fun.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

And if I didn't come back

And if I didn't come back and address my detractors you'd call me a troll.  It's a Catch-22.

JasonC

It's a no-win situation. You lose here on NB no matter what.

But you still love us, apparently... and the feeling is mutual! :)

 

Well, you've provided us

Well, you've provided us with some wonderful examples of Democratic-part shortcomings, real and perceived.  However, your boldface-festooned litany serves little purpose to the discussion at hand other than garnering the back-slapping adulation of your fellow right-leaning posters who apparently think that a list of left-leaning controversies and failures constitutes an "argument."

The discussion at hand, in case you've forgotten, is what practical or useful purpose reporting on the anniversary of Kennedy's manslaughter/negligent homicide/D&D/no-two-ways-about-it-f***-up.

Your comparison between Bush's own far-less-sever indiscretions falters in the face of the fact that the media does not do an extravaganza on the anniversary of his own D&D incident.  You, and others, have implied that they do.  I contend that that, and the Guard issue, were legitimate at the time they were being scrutinized because Bush was running for president.  So again, please tell me what you expect to come out of dredging up Kennedy's Chappaquiddick incident, other than embarassing the left.  This whole challenge to Kennedy's character thing is pretty much a non-issue, unless you think it is legitimately possible to have him reoved from the senate based on a 40-year-old incident that basically everyone who cares about this sort of thing knows about.

so JasonC,

exactly when should the media bring up Mary Jo Kopechne?  

For the answer, please visit

For the answer, please visit JasonC's website, TeddyWasExonerated.com

Whenever they please, of

Whenever they please, of course; hopefully with at least a pretext of relevance to contemporary issues.

At no point did I claim that invoking Chappaquiddick in the news should be proscribed.  Rather, repeatedly, I have claimed that it is foolish to act as though various media outlets choosing not to bring it up is some egregious act of journalistic oversight and bias.

Kennedy is a contemporary issue!

Kennedy is an active member of Congress!  You can't get much more "contemporary" than that!

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Use common sense JasonC

"But as far as media inattention 40 years later goes...why exactly is this newsworthy?  What about it is significant or even relevant?"

a) as Cobraman pointed out Kennedy is an active member of Congress,

b) it was the anniversary of the event,

c) Kennedy has never faced any real scrutiny for his actions in the loss of the young life of Mary Jo Kopechne.

 

duh 

So fine, if certain media

So fine, if certain media outlets want to bring it up, great.  I'm not saying they shouldn't.  I'm saying those that do not aren't exactly ignoring the story of the year.

Certain media outlets didn't bring it up JasonC

That was the point of the article.  Did you read the title? I asked you when should the media bring it up and you said whenever they please but from your comments it seems you would rather it was never talked about again.  It evidently bores you.  

 If someone in the media actually shone the light of day on this event, it would be the story of the year. Journalists are supposed to be objective, not participate in the cover up.  Truth to power and all that jazz. 

Nay

I have an idea. I think, definitely, the appropriate time to bring it up would be on anniversaries. More appropriately, certainly-definitely, would be decade anniversaries.

I mean..... right?

And you know what? It's the 40th, and not one major outlet mentioned it. Not ONE. NB should at least post something about this.

Oh wait, here... they are.

:) 

 

MrShy, I know ... right!

It shouldn't be this difficult to point out the obvious.

You're the one who brought up 'character issues', Jason.

Plus you admitted that Bush was being scrutinized because he was a social conservative.

And those 'Guard issues' were also 'non-issues'. They were fabricated out of whole cloth by left-wing hit-squads led by hacks like Dan Rather.

And they pale into insignificance even if they were true when compared with the 'character issues' of key Democrats.

Perjury, lying, obstruction. falsifying military records, dodging the draft and serial sexual harassment are not 'controversies' or 'failures'. They are violations of various laws.

Clinton and Kerry were also running for President, Jason.

Democrats either ignored or went all out to defend their 'character issues', which I have listed above.

I don't feel the need to help the Democrats bury the memories of their scumbags, terrorists, racists and killers.

Ted Kennedy is a killer...and I want the world to remember that.

And, just as the left, in the person of JasonC, doesn't need a date or event to bring up forty year old nonexistent Bush 'indiscretions', I don't need any to bring up the perpetrator of the vehicular homicide of Mary Jo Kopechne.

Hell is waiting for you, Senator Kennedy.

May they not have to wait long.

Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.

Liberals and the media also

Liberals and the media also conveniently forget the name Juanita Broaddrick. 

But someone "might" have gotten preferential treatment for the guard?

Limited Disclosure:  I used to belong to the Sierra Club untill they went crazier. Worse of all, I was bribed by Exxon with free New Orleans Saints glasses with fill ups in the 70's.

maybe the issue is not

maybe the issue is not being addressed simply enough

JasonC asks "what practical or useful purpose reporting on the anniversary of Kennedy's manslaughter/negligent homicide/D&D/no-two-ways-about-it-f***-up. "

I will answer - to remind people

 

I hate the New York Times more than it hates the US Military

The scum and perverts in

The scum and perverts in the MSM didn't wait for the anniversary date of trumpetting GWB's shortcomings.......they did it on a daily basis while be was president.

Funny how GWB could also produce a legitimate birth certificate if asked to do so.

Then why is Kennedy exempt?

"Those issues regarding Bush were legitimate given his social conservatism and stance on foreign policy, respectively, and were raised when he was running for president and for re-election.  They were legitimate character issues."

You may have forgotten this, but Kennedy sits on several Senate committees.  Those committees make policies and laws.  Kennedy sits on committees that make legislative policies for things like Ethics, and votes in Congress for laws that assigns punishments for things like drunk driving and involuntary manslaughter. How does this exempt him from the illegal actions of his past?

Look at it this way: if Bush was a fair target because he was in a position of power in enforcing the law, why should Kennedy exempt from scrutiny when  he is in a position of power to MAKE those laws?

You're a perfect example of hypocrisy.  Your insistence that Kennedy should be exempt from scrutiny of the actions of his past while insisting that it was correct to scrutinize Bush about HIS past actions, is the very definition of hypocrisy.  Two similar situations, yet distinctly opposite views of how they should be handled.

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I'm sorry, but if someone

I'm sorry, but if someone murdered my daughter, I'd consider it newsworthy in 2049.  You're not belittling Kennedy, you're belittling the girl that he killed due to his idiocy.  He wasn't prosecuted for this crime less because he was a US Senator, but more because he was a Kennedy. He can be specifically tied to this crime by forensics, those currently available and those in '69.  I don't wish him dead, and I don't presume to know where he'll go when he dies, but I wish he would admit to what he's done. 

Um, no, I'm not belittling

Um, no, I'm not belittling that either.  If certain media outlets want to commemorate Chappaquiddick every anniversary, fine.  That's their right.  But it's also their right to refrain from doing so, and to suggest that it's some sort of glaring omission is just plain silly.

Do you think that the parents of other killed children get to have a media memorial/indictment of the responsible party every single year?  Your purported empathy with her parents seems to be based on little more than the infamy of the responsible party.

I wish he would admit to what he's done.  

Well he pleaded guilty, so you might say he has "admitted it."  I don't know of him retroactively denying it, do you?  That his family connections got him out of serving jail time is sickening, but doesn't alter the fact that he admitted his guilt.

A friend of mine...

A friend of mine harps on this issue quite often.

And people ask him every year how long he's going to keep it up.

His response?

"As long as Mary Jo Kopechne is still dead."

That's a bit od a

That's a bit od a "but"-head statment, J.

There are 2 very good reasons and probably more.  1. He's still a senator and an influential political figure.  2. If he was a republican, he would have served jail time and would be long since forgotten.

he killed one person on chapaqudicki,but

he caused the deaths of over one million in south vietnam by engineering the cut off of war supply funding for the south. from that point on the SOB  was a commie in my book, he did it for his friends in the north. 

larry... I agree...I

larry...

I agree...I didn't want to even go there tonight, Kerry was groomed by him for just some of that purpose too...I know you know where I am coming from.

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larry / bt - count me in, too! Were John F. Kennedy alive today

he would probably disown him!  John Kennedy was NOT a big government proponent! 

Ted Kennedy has brought shame and disgrace to our country and I am sickened over the whitewash job he constantly receives from the media.  Interesting to see they mention his carousing with Chris Dodd, but somehow ..forgot to mention the 'waitress sandwich' the two so willingly participated in - and were not held accountable for!

If we needed another reason to NOT pass the healthcare bill (besides the obvious that it STINKS!) it will be to put an end to this man's self-serving hypocrisy - he is promoting a healthcare bill for EVERYONE BUT HIMSELF & HIS CRONIES IN CONGRESS!  Would he even be alive today if he were in a national healthcare such as Canada or Britain?  77??  TOO OLD!  Wait for 6 months and 'it just might be best to take a pill and be comfortable' - I believe those were President Obama's words in answer to a question recently!

202.224.3121  LET THEM HEAR THE ROAR OF THE SILENT MAJORITY!  JUST SAY NO TO THE BILLS OF NON-EXISTENT 'CRISES' - Just because the administration and the state-run media say our country is in a state of crisis does not mean it is!

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Old German Proverb

To quote my old German Grandpa,  Teddy's only still around " because God doesn't know about him and the Devil doesn't want him ". 

I posted this elsewhere but the links should be posted here also

Here is the audio of lying Ted Kennedy explaining (lying) shortly after the accident what happened to Mary Jo Kopechne.

The Examiner.com has an excellent article on the Kopechne tragedy, and describes in detail lying Kennedy's abhorrent behavior that was responsible for her death.

The comments at NPR on Rudin's article are interesting: Here is one of them that sums up my feelings:

cindi pastore (mostlyataloss) wrote:
Whenever I think about Ted Kennedy, I also want to quote Marge Gunderson in Fargo- "I just don't understand it." Seriously, I'm a liberal and all that, but exactly HOW does a man kill a woman and then get to go on and have a career in the Senate? How does that happen? The rest of us would have gone to jail, in addition to it destroying our careers.

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As one who grew up in

As one who grew up in Massachusetts, I can tell you that to those folks the Kennedys are the closest thing they'd ever have to royalty, and in some sick way they are proud of having such a famous family in their state. (I never caught the bug.)

That's the only reason I can think of that they kept re-electing him over and over after that.  And as I said above, shame on them for that.

 

mb - as did I (grew up here) ...BUT you can take it to the bank

I NEVER VOTED FOR such a lowdown sorry excuse for a human being!  Indeed SHAME on anyone who kept such a loser in office!

We moved away for many years (long before EMK) and when I returned it was to a Socialist State, not the conservative (yes, folks, New England used to be conservative in the olden days) 'pilgrims have landed' 'church on Sundays' '4th of July parades' etc Massachusetts of years past.  How such liberal thieves could steal our beautiful corner of the world is one of the worst atrocities of the 20th century...and I do believe it began with the undeserved recognition and worship of the Kennedy clan.  Anyone who lives here knows there isn't a good one in the bunch...and any associated with EMK have seen their lives go down in ruin!

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"Kennedy himself may be

"Kennedy himself may be close to the end, and to remind readers of this incident now may seem ghoulish and cruel."

Oh Boo Effing Hoo

At least this weasel got the opportunity to reach old age, which is much more than Mary Jo got to do.  The fact that the media are still tip toeing around this vehicular homicide after 40 years is sick and twisted.   

Agreed

Liberals are always feeling bad for the perpetrators; heaven forbid they should suffer feelings of guilt!

I'm sure some of MJ's family are still around (her parents are dead); why don't they ask THEM if they think it's cruel to remind Kennedy of his craven selfishness as ghoulish and cruel?

No ill wishes while he's alive, but...

...may he be interred in the back seat of an upside down 67' Olds.

 Rich people with cars

 

Rich people with cars got out and left the poor to drown                      

Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina

I agree 

Mary Jo Kopechne

The point is

I'll make this trade-off with the MSM:

Don't turn this loser into Mother Teresa (Lion of the Senate my a**) and you can skip the "incident" at Chappaquiddick.

 

Teddy makes Lyndon Johnson look like a neo-conservative when it comes to building the "great society" which is going to be the ruination of this once great country.

Compare Nixon

Compare this with the liberals' inability to discuss President Nixon without going into Watergate.

Chappaquiddick

I don't care if the media wants to ignore it, or the fact that Kennedy money paid for an aquittal..... Mary Jo Kopechne was MURDERED and when Kennedy finally goes to his final reward, he will get justice.....

At the very least Kennedy

At the very least, Kennedy was guilty of "Depraved Indifference" in the death of another person.

This is clear with facts as known. The fact that MaryJo's head and body was found positioned for the air-pocket in the car.

The fact that from the fisherman spotting the car next morning, to reporting it, and to a first responder arriving within minutes, she could have been saved had she been struggling for life in the air-pocket.

Like many thinking people, what is UNFORGTIVABLE about Kennedy's actions is his continued lies and non-explanation -- and the powerful forces which protected him.

None of us is without sin or error. That is not the point. The point is what you do after you have sinned. Kennedy has failed THAT test in assuming full culpability in the young woman's death. imho

Ever notice how people who believe complex conspiracy theories, seem to think the universe and humans are just a series of random events? 

Kennedy is a MURDERER.

Kennedy is a MURDERER.

slicker then?

this person used the power to get ahead all his life , no cares ,it was good olde boy uncle ted at it's best from be-corning  you hill bean towne,impeach this "fool" ?

I miss JasonC.

He has ignored my PM's. He has ignored my Troll Trap forum.

JasonC: It's not news. It's not news. It's not news. It's not news. It's not news. It's not news. It's not news. Goll Dangint you all to hell it is not news!

Now why would a conservative site bring it up then? Let me quote a very smart guy. WHY? WHY? WHY?

This "story" would do nothing but cynically provide ammunition for those who wish to project his 4-decades-old failure onto liberalism as a whole.  It would have no practical or material purpose beyond that.

Isolate those words.

Project Failure onto Liberalism as a Whole. 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.