Climategate: MSM Writers Try to Ignore Scandal in Global Warming Stories But Readers Bring Them Back to Reality

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An hilariously bizarre situation is happening in the wake of the growing Climategate scandal.  Many of the mainstream media stories about global warming are simply pretending it doesn't exist. Perhaps they feel that by ignoring Climategate entirely that it will just go away. Unfortunately for them, the readers of these global warming stories keep bringing up the inconvenient truth of Climategate by mentioning the scandal in the comments section over and over and over again.

An example is this Houston Chronicle editorial which asserts in its headline, "As a crucial climate change conference nears, more evidence of a warming globe." And as the editorial reveals its "evidence," note what is conspicuously missing although the readers will bring it up much to the embarrassment of the Chonicle:

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The Global Carbon Project study concludes that unless emissions are substantially reduced, the result would be a rise in average global temperature by nearly 10 degrees Fahrenheit by the end of the century. That is on par with previous worst-case scenarios outlined by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Scientists have estimated that temperature spikes above 2 degrees could have disastrous consequences, including large rises in sea level, droughts and stronger storms.

One of the authors of the study, Professor Corinne Le Quere of the University of East Anglia, says the conclusions raise the stakes for delegates to the Copenhagen gathering, who will try to hammer out a successor to the Kyoto Accords that committed signatory governments to emission reduction goals. The United States did not sign on to that agreement.

University of East Anglia? Hmmm... Where have I heard about this university in the recent past? Something about hacked e-mails, manipulated data, and a coverup? This editorial won't bring up the scandal that dare not speak its name but the readers are not shy about bringing it up over and over and over again:

 Oh dear .. I think you have a bit of catching up to do.

Scandal? What scandal? We're as willfully clueless about this as Charlie Gibson is about the ACORN scandal.

Apparently, the clowns on the Houston Comical editorial board do zero research prior to sitting down at the keyboard to compose their lies. The "researchers" at East Anglia have been exposed as the perpetrators of a massive fraud by manipulating statistics. Yet, here comes the Comical citing the liars at East Anglia in support of their thesis. It's all over the news - even the Houston Comical. (Maybe the editorial board doesn't read the Comical - only the press releases of the DNC.)

AIIIEEEEE!!! Stop with the truth! It's too painful!

This is incredible. Warmists rig climate data, block publication of peer-reviewed papers challenging the AWG theory and the Chronicle publishes this scare-screed. The liberal media barons are flummoxed by thefollowing developments and like the 6 year old who finally realizes there is no Santa Claus, are in deep denial.

We will continue to believe in our global warming Santa no matter what the facts are to the contrary.

More unadulterated BS from the whiners on the Chronicle's Editorial Board. With these phoney scientists now exposed via some hacked emails and hundreds of other highly credentialed climate scientists saying the whole man-made global warming theory is a hoax, why a newspaper thinks it knows more than the skeptics is beyond me.

Dave, stop.

Considering the information that has come out in the last few days about the East Anglia researchers, this cannot be a well-informed and sincere editorial. The editorial board is either ignorant of the facts, deliberately obscuring them, or simply insulting its readers.

Stop, will you?

You are kidding me. Over the weekend we learned a server at East Anglia was hacked and emails were distributed that contradict Global Warming. In addition, they discuss how to overstate the findings in order to further their agenda. Yet, The Chronicle still blindlly pushes the Global Warming agenda. If that is not enough, tempatures have not risen over the last ten years. In fact, they have dropped slightly. How can any reader take a publication seriously when they refuse to report facts.

Stop, Dave. Will you stop, Dave?

The ClimateGate scandal exposes man-made global warming fears as quite simply the best science that agenda driven activists can "manufacture". Claims that the UN IPCC is the 'gold standard' of scientific research have been forever tarnished.

Stop, Dave. I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave.

Hey Chron - quit being a stupid doosh and get your facts straight. It came to be known last week that these scientists were fudging data. Perpetrating Al Gore's fraud.

Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going.

The IPCC chefs and their lackeys in the press have cooked the books to create a Soviet casserole of lies, flavored with phony data, suppressed research, bullied colleagues and topped with a garnish of elitist arrogance. And they want us to not only to eat it, but to pay trillions for the privilige. They now have all the credibility of an ACORN ethics officer and the public is vomiting at the smell.

There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I'm a…fraid.

The Houston Chronicle editorial writers have completely ignored the breaking scandal that is evidencing the climate change hypothesis for what it is -- a pack of lies and manipulations delivered by establishment science. "Climate change" has always been about one agenda: Giving governments more power to control what you do. This one is so big and blatant even the mainstream media can't cover it up.

Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do.

How embarrassing for the Chronicle! With all that has happened in the past week, shouldn't you have at least taken the line out about the GCP saying '10-degree rise by the end of the century'? Don't you think it is out of your hands by now anyway? We are so close to the summit, how could recycling this old 'news' have any positive impact on the outcome? It just makes the 'collective' look even more foolish to people who have opened their minds and taken the time to truly evaluate the facts that are available to us. Why didn't you run a story on those hacked emals and bring us up-to-date on what is really going on?

I'm half crazy, all for the love of you. It won't be a stylish marriage. I can't afford a carriage. But you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two …

Bottom line here for the MSM; you can try to avoid mentioning Climategate in your global warming stories but your readers are sure to remind you of your deliberate oversight. Oh how they will remind you!

—P.J. Gladnick is a freelance writer and creator of the DUmmie FUnnies blog.


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Big Media: "I am the great

Big Media: "I am the great Oz!  Ignore that man behind the curtain!"

The Anchoress has a great

The Anchoress has a great take on why they can't afford to admit they were had....

The AGW/Climate Change question became a rigorous boondoggle that got out of control not because the scientist who first suggested a connection between human carbon emission and a change in climate were bad people, or that the question was not worth asking, but because bad people then took the uncertain hypothesis, put it on media-fueled steroids, demonized anyone who disagreed with them, made it political -so much so that even the scientists got caught up in the good/bad, smart/stupid, Gore/Bush, Left/Right identifiers- and found real power there; they allowed the AGW movement to become the dubious centering pole upholding the giant circus tent of their worldviews.

As such, it is not permitted to be shaken. Shake the centering pole, and everything could come tumbling down: Oh. My. Gawd! If the Gore-doubters were right about this, what else might they be right about? And if they’re all stupid, and I’m smart, but they’re right and I’m wrong . . .

Implosion.

If the true-believers of AGW got this wrong, and they’d attached it to all of their politics, all of their hate, all of their superiority, then everything is in a free-fall.

And this is why the mainstream media cannot possibly report
on Climategate until they have an acceptable counter-narrative that
they can haul out in order to either debunk the story or soften its
edges, even as they break the news.

 

I think there's a lot of

I think there's a lot of truth in the above comments.  Rush brilliantly laid it out as 'the four corners of deceit'.  

Science: Which created the lie of man-made global warming, fudged the numbers and based the entire scheme on data collected from THREE tree trunks in Siberia.  Then rigorously blocked anyone else from trying to 'duplicate' their experiments.

Media: Which took the lie, promulgated it, popularized it, and demonized anyone who dared to question it.

Academia:  Our 'institutions of learning', which (under liberal control) became indoctrination centers devoted to teaching the lie, hammering into the heads of the young until they accepted it without question.  All of them constructing safeguards, blockades and chicanery to shield and protect the lie from any and all scrutiny - holding the grades and futures of young poeple hostage unless they embraced the lie.

Government:  Which nodded and approved of all the above three, and then carefully began plotting and crafting laws based on the lie which would allow them to seize power over the people at the point of a sword.  Laws which would allow them to confiscate the money, property and lives of the innocent with the stroke of a pen.

And all four of these are incestously conjoined - so deep in bed with each other that they barely need to coordinate.  They all think alike, and all can guess or predict what the other corner wants/needs to bring their lies to pass, and act accordingly.

And as was said above - it's a machine that's now 'too big to fail'.  They've been building this for decades now, and at Copenhagen, they'd be on the verge of creating their 'global order' with Obama most likely as it's first crowned king.

So of course the media is silent.  If they report this, it would destroy decades of their hard work in mere days - perhaps hours.  They will desperatly concoct any lie they can muster to try and rebuild the main lie of global warming.  

So beware people - all four corners of this conspiracy will be acting in concert.  And as we saw with the health debate, they will lie, they'll cheat, they'll steal, they'll beat people, bite off fingers, do any disgusting thing to try and bury the truth.  Because the truth has become their #1 enemy - a foe that must be murdered quietly if they can manage it.

Like like Obama is too black for the liberals to let him fail as a president, Global Warming is too big to let them fail as well.  If Global warming falls - then all four corners of this web of deceit will fall with it.

Good synopsis Slyrr, but

Good synopsis Slyrr, but more can be added:

Snobbery: Perpetuated by the MSM and academia, the "elitists" think they, and only they, are the purveyor of "THE TRUTH", and that we -- the peasants -- have no ability, and therefore no right, to challenge anything that they try to spoon feed us. This is why the Chronical publishes its editorial. The peasants' word means nothing; we are barely sub-human after all.

Rudeness: The MSM, polititians, academia, and now scientists have realized they can insult us, call us names, and tell us we are stupid, all in the name of controlling the message (or template). They truly think we remain cowed, and afraid to confront them. And why? Because they've been able to get away with more and more all these years, and do not fear retaliation. The fact that people are dropping their subscriptions and turning off the radio and TV is always attributed to other factors. Because we, the peasants, will not turn on them, our self-appointed "Masters".

I'm glad to see the worm turning. Sounds like the Chronical commenters are all Newsbusters readers.

__________
"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song

wadda they gonna say?

Hey...  i iz stoooopid.....!   LOL  an you toad me so!!!   ;)

Last I checked, the State

Last I checked, the State Run Media newspapers were in massive trouble and failing fast. Any idea how much longer before we can look forward to the next round of newspaper closings? I wish I could stand outside their main entrances while their stupid workers came out with boxes of their belongings crying because they had no jobs. I'd ask them how it felt to lie to the American people year after year until you suddenly realize no one buys your stupid paper or your Damned Liberal lies any more.

Wapo Woes

["a bunch of DOUCHE BAGGERS (D-BAGGERS)"- Jack Bauer ]

 5150, unless i read it wrong, the ticker on our local news said this morning, that, wapo was closing bureaus in NY, Chi., and elsewhere. I thought, serves the D-Baggers right.!!~~!!

And now we have a gaggle of Scientist D-Baggers, who knew.!!~~!!

(grins) kilrod

 If an unborn child cannot trust you, why should I,?? 

Why don't they get it...?

We now have many many sources of information and do not need to turn to propagandists anymore.   They can't hide behind their lies anymore.

" if Republicans are able to stop Barack Obama on health care, 'it will be his Waterloo, it will break him....-Sen. Jim DeMint

Super, as you say, we do not

Super, as you say, we do not need the MSM anymore to learn what is going on, and from as many angles and sources as we have hours in the day to do so. The MSM is absolutely stuck on the "It's not news until we say it's news" rule, and it's killing them.

Think of the ridiculous premise of a "news weekly" ala Newsweak and TIME. Are we to believe that week-old, or even days old news, is of any interest whatsoever to us?

We, as you suggest, can get news and information, up to date, at any time, anywhere and in as many flavors as we desire. But if you are operating a buggy whip company, you hate to admit the horseless carriage is here to stay. ;=]

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

Can't wait for more

Can't wait for more fictitious cards to fall.

you won't have to wait long rbosque-

NASA's resident warmmonger James Hansen has been served:

http://pajamasmedia.com/files/2009/11/DOC112409-001.pdf

The trial lawyers will be lined up for miles to get a piece of NASA if there's evidence that NASA was part of this Climategate fraud.  I'd imagine that almost every business in the US could likely establish some level of financial damage due to federal greenhouse gas regulations that were based partly on NASA's (possibly) fraudulent climate data.  The lawsuits would cost NASA (or sadly the US taxpayers) billions.

Do you think it's just a coincidence that these hackers struck just days before Copenhagen?  And was this really the work of a couple of geeks just having a kick?  Or do you think that a few concerned individuals, maybe in an intelligence agency, that fully understood how much economic damage global warming regulations will cause, decided to take matters into their own hands for the good of the country?  Hmmmm.........

"The problem with political jokes is they get elected." -Henry Cate VII (?)

Who ever leaked these

Who ever leaked these e-mails, God Bless Them !! 

 


خال

→ It's a beautiful thing

NASA needs to take it up the wazoo just like ACORN deserves it.

Threaten to withhold all funding from that operation until they come clean about their knowledge.

We're talking about a multi trillion dollar scam here.  We need more than Hansen's resignation.  He needs to be draped over a barrel spilling his guts on this.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

 

Waterboard Hansen!

Waterboard Hansen!

Er, I mean, read him his Miranda rights and frog-march him out of NASA.  Let's see if he's ready to plea after a few days in the big house.  Yeah that's it.  That's the ticket!

 


خال

→ That'll scare him

I think it will take less than that.

The threat of professional disgrace probably scares him more than the skullduggery any old trillion dollar scam might generate.

I like to believe a threat to his legacy might be enough.

Jeff Skilling, Ken Lay, and J. Cliff Baxter might help convince him.  The one that's still alive, that is.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

There is some good news

Our chocolate ration has been raised to 25g from 30g.

But I could swear it was 40g

But I could swear it was 40g last week ;)

So your the one

Who ate my ration. : [

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Ah....I see

Why you call yourself an optomist.

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

don't get too excited

don't want to rain on your parade.  I, too, would like to see the truth win out however...... zealots are zealots regardless of the inconvienance of facts - you need look no farther than our current president to see how that works.  This, at best, was a baby step for the good guys.  (the accompanying narrative was kinda cute)

I am so looking forward to

I am so looking forward to the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee Round 3:

James Inhofe (R-Okla.) VS Chairwoman Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.)

Popcorn's popping and the drinks are chilling.

Yee Haw!

Yea, you right.

Think Boxer will show up? 

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Sure hope everyone remembers to call her SENATOR ;-)

while they are rubbing her nose in it!!!!

Senator Inhofe will certainly feel vindicated as the left has continued to defame him for his KNOWLEDGE of this scam!

Houston - we have a problem

I can only imagine that editors at the Houston Chron assumed at this point nobody is bothering to read their editorials any longer - it was intended as a feel good story to themselves.

Can you imagine offering this type of buisiness plan to a bank? 

pathetic

how pathetic of the MSM to ignore breaking, major news-- they are no different than fraudulent journalists who attempt to create the news through sensationalistic fiction and half-truths (e.g. National Enquirer)-- both types of which are motivated by selfishness-- in the case of MSM and their glaring ignorance, it may be nothing more complicated than desiring to remain in the good graces of the current administration-- and not lose their White House access-- but there certainly remains the possibility of those who are indeed "Fifth Columnists" who actively and behind closed doors, promote big, gobal, omnipresent government intrusion-- by whatever means necessary-- such as fear pimping via global warming hoaxism--

Remember, The Enquirer Did Break Gary Hart & John Edwards...

 

When the MSM refused to cover THOSE stories...who won that one? 

But keep in mind in a very small sstory a couple of weeks ago, NASA admitted that it's temperature data was flawed and couldn't be depended upon for accuracy for a 20 year period, from 1981 until 2001 or so...just thinking here...hhhhmmm, I bet those years were central to AGW and CRU's data sets. 

 Also see this devastating post on PJM: 

 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/climategate-computer-codes-are-the-real-story/

Rich V.

Rich V.

www.thevailspot.blogspot.com

spepper

Although their shtick is celebrity news and celebrity fluff. I deem them more reliable and honest than the NYT et al.

"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'

From the horses mouth

I doubt if anyone here cares, but the University of East Anglia, the institution at the center of this "controversy," has released an official statement.

 

http://bit.ly/8l0hix

UEA follwoing the plan - Lie, Deny, if need be Cry

"There is nothing in the stolen material which indicates that peer-reviewed publications by CRU, and others, on the nature of global warming and related climate change are not of the highest-quality of scientific investigation and interpretation.

 

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Amazing.

 


خال

It is amazing

How these old dinosaur institutions still think their predictable little statements impress anyone.

Candance

If you like that, this one is even funnier!  ;-)

"The University of East Anglia and CRU are committed to scientific integrity, open debate and enhancing understanding." (emphasis mine)

 


خال

East Anglia dictionary

integrity: n a defensive mechanism used by corrupt organizations when they're exposed by skeptics. See also: ACORN, Planned Parenthood, Democrat Party.

ROFLMAO !   خال

ROFLMAO !

 

خال

Not quite, jim.

The mouth is actually on the other end of this horse you're refering to.

 

Hi. My name is John Q. Public, but some just call me racist.

What Peer Reveiw

I have been following AWG since I first heard about it over 10 years ago. I submit that "What Peer Review?", is the real question. What really needs to be understood, but the Press is too STUPID to understand, is how much legitimate research has been contaminated by the sloppy work, which is the best thing I can say. I will not get into motives or accuracy of predictions but the documents released in the Data dump indicates work of such ineptitude that it cannot be trusted on that basis alone. These guys are not even able to keep thier own Databases in working order and have to do a tapdance to TRY and reconstruct it. Believe me if this kind of sloppy work were done in Private Industry they would have been shown the door and a suit for damages filed.

That is the message we need to keep at the front. Stay away from the political and show the ineptitude of the parties involved. I have followed several Scientific Blogs and real Scientists in many other disciplines are outraged. They want to know how this particular branch of Science has been operating because the reputation of all Scientists are at stake here. There will be an axe falling and it might be the discreditation of Climate Science as a whole and rolling that particular branch into the other disciplines which have much higher standards.

Took a Look At It

Woh is me, those evil people stole things...but I've come across a computeer security guy who thinks it was an inside job.  He says, no matter how good a hacker is, they can trace you within a couple of days....it's now been what? a week?  Here's a link to his website with his conclusions:

 http://itsteatime.net/blogs/blog4.php/2009/11/24/climategate-who-done-it

 

Rich V.

www.thevailspot.blogspot.com

Hear the crickets?

The silence is deafening like the night in a deep forrest. The media does not care about truth or the wonderful news that the world will not die of global warming. They only care about defending the indefensible and distracting us with  the latest bit of nonsense and not focusing on our failing economic underpinnings caused by the current liberal government and their bizarre policies. A president that tells us our electricity costs will skyrocket thanks to him is an amazing thing to behold. Isn't it nice he intends to keep that promise with or without global warming?

the MSM does what it does

the MSM does what it does best, ignore the obvious. they get their marching orders from SEIU, ACORN and the Obama Administration, so of course i am not surprised that they are mum on this.   JAJT

To be fair to the Chronicle...

The Pony Express Media hasn't reached the Houston outpost yet.

It is a far piece, ya know.

And how about Big Al returning all those illgotten funds?!?!

You will notice we haven't heard a peep out of the wondrous one, the all-knowing (all-LYING) Global Warming Guru!  He's probably trying to figure out how to keep all his STUPID greenhouse gas / carbon offset companies from sinking!!!  I hope he loses his fat arse! 

Guess 'the debate is not quite over' after all!  And now, ladies and gentlemen, the reason for his failing time after time to 'debate' - he KNEW it was all a HOAX!

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Domestic Right Wing Terrorist!  And now by our president as a 'swiftboater' - both titles I'll wear proudly!

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

202.224.3121   LET CONGRESS HEAR THE ROAR OF THE SILENT MAJORITY!

202.456.1111   WHITE HOUSE COMMENT LINE

 

→ Don't think so

Is there any proof Orson Wells returned his salary for the night he did "War of the Worlds" over radio?

Gore is the PT Barnum of our time.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

They need to throw him

under the jail they have Madoff in

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

He's trying out for a new

He's trying out for a new job as a comedian.

"You lie!"  Rep. Joe Wilson R-(SC)

danbo - do you think SNL will have him on playing himself in

this globalwarming SCAM??????? 

They did a bangup job last week FINALLY with the Obama/China visit...let's hope they visit this sacred cow next!

P.S.  It was sooooo sweet to know that OUR senior senator is a co-sponsor of the latest version of the Cap & Trade Bill.  How to go, JFnK...hitch your star to a winner every time! 

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Domestic Right Wing Terrorist!  And now by our president as a 'swiftboater' - both titles I'll wear proudly!

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

202.224.3121   LET CONGRESS HEAR THE ROAR OF THE SILENT MAJORITY!

202.456.1111   WHITE HOUSE COMMENT LINE

 

It's a brave new world.

Think about the committment that GE/NBC/MSNBC have made to this movement. They've put a lot of time and money into pushing this agenda. Now, with these revelations, it brings new meaning to green week, sort of like looking green around the gills from being sick. 

It's going to be hard for the MSM to own up to the fact that they listened to Al Gore, when he told them the science was settled and they were just delaying the action necessary to save the planet, by printing contrary articles.  Ah yes, good old Al Gore and the science is settled speeches.  I wonder if these scientists can claim that, since the science was settled, they knew the proof would turn their way so they were just hedging the numbers until they turned around, and blame it on Gore?

How long is it going to take for our illustrious MSM to get on the ball and give us the truth?  Perhaps they're pulling the Obama trick and plan on putting it out on black Friday, while everyone is out shopping.   

Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.  

michael Mann

Gavin schmidt and James Hansen are parties in the e-mails.  They work at NASA GISS in NYC above tom's Restaurant.  Down the hall is Real climate a blog.  It is Moderated by Gavin schmidt.  Michael Mann is part owner of the blog.  Yes they are connected.  Michael Mann is author of the Hockey Stick graph.  It waas found faulty and cheated 2 months ago.

 Michael admits in e-mails to hiding the recent decline in temps and the Medieval warm period.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk&feature=player_embedded

Hey Al Gore....

Now the debate is over.

That is probably the best

That is probably the best comment in this thread.

optimist

Now that's debatable.;)

Nope-not debatable---

I second optimist.  Motion carried.

Barker posted, scores, wins.

Great shot.

MD

"There is no distinctly American criminal class - except Congress."

Mark Twain (1835-1910)

I vote, Aye for Barker

The motion having been presented voted upon, and passed...move along people, nothing to see here....LOL 

Rich V.

www.thevailspot.blogspot.com

P.J. Gladnick

   Loved your 2001 A Space Odyssey reference.  It made me LOL.

Hal was great

Yah, that was great. It had me on the floor. But seriously, I think you should sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.

:-)

Those readers should start a newspaper

You think the Houston Chronicle would get a clue and maybe get more readership if they reported, get ready for it,

THE TRUTH.

Algore, you're going down.

Irony of ironies

Oh how I love Irony.  It's pretty easy to see how the LSM/MSM/SRM would remain silent except for Fox News.  Though there were a couple of people on Fox who got caught up in the nonsense, Shep was one of them, anyone know if any others?

One irony is how the media perpetuated this hoax for SO LONG that it practically dwarfs the cold fusion hoax, remember that one?  Ooh what a sh!tstorm that was!   Next hoax to go down is the embyonic stem cell research, talk about beating dead horses and getting totally no where!  The Bush document forgery pales in comparison.

 There's one name I haven't seen tossed around and this is one person who should be hauled up there along with Algore and fellow GW patriots....anyone remember Heidi Cullen?  Remember how she said weather folks who don't agree with the GW religion should have their licenses removed or something like that?  Honestly I'm surprised there's been no mention of her anywhere.

The other irony I like is how this comes on the heels of the green is universal campaign by GE on the channels like NBC, Weather Channel, Disney(Friends for change), USA, SyFy, and so on.

 How many people have friends that were so absolutely convinced this global warming hoax was the real deal that you are going to say "Hah!(chrissy imitation) Told you so!"  Or will you take pity on them and see how they redeem themselves?

Fun times ahead.  I can't believe Obeyme is going to continue on with the farce.  But he is a farce anyway, so there you go.

-Jon

Shep and O'reily

I'm pretty sure I've never seen BOR question the doctrine of man made global warming.  I'm also pretty sure that he will state vociferously that he never believed a word of it.  Maybe my BOR derangement syndrome has blinded me on this one, but I don't think so.

to explain it away

bor refers to agw as PAALUUUSHUN!

to explain it away

bor refers to agw as PAALUUUSHUN!

Re BOR

You are correct sir. Even now BOR will not question AGW. I expect him to intone in his weird third-person way -"talking points has analyzed the 'hacked' information and talking points has concluded that there is nothing there of concern", or something equally milk-and-cookies.

I am beginning to believe that BOR sets his 'principles' based on what will get him the best access to the big interview targets yet still maintain a modicum of respect from his viewers.That's a fine line to walk.

slick - agree - and then after he 'gets' those big interviews,

he asks you to RATE him and then puffs his chest out when he receives some A's!  He is so pathetic when he goes on and on about those who dare to deny him access! 'if only they had agreed to come on The Factor, things would have gone better' yadayadayada!

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Domestic Right Wing Terrorist!  And now by our president as a 'swiftboater' - both titles I'll wear proudly!

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

202.224.3121   LET CONGRESS HEAR THE ROAR OF THE SILENT MAJORITY!

202.456.1111   WHITE HOUSE COMMENT LINE

 

slick... You summed it up

slick...

You summed it up in a nutshell regarding BOR and algoreglobalwarming.

'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart

Doesn't everyone Know by Now

the MSM and many others are bought and paid by the banking elite to push this agenda through whether we like it or not for one world order is good for us and we are to ignorant to just volunteer for it.

Obama and the agenda of the US is controlled by the same people.  Lucifer the great puppet master is at it to the end. and Israel will come out smelling like a rose of Sharon

Wake up earthling humanoids your time is up.  God is awake and on his way to set up his kingdom. and you will all bow your knee willingly.

Here's a fact that's worth the knowing, So treasure and mark it well.  When the mind is through with growing, the the head begins to swell.             Sir Nosmo King

Ladies and Gentlemen...

Welcome to the "Tree Ring Circus".

That is exactly why I

That is exactly why I stopped taking a newspaper here when the Houston Post went out of business nearly 20 years ago.  I wouldn't disgrace a dead fish by wrapping it in the Comical.  After all, it is a Hearst paper, one of the originators of yellow journalism.  Some things never change.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

The obvious thing to do is

The obvious thing to do is to attack Fox News, Glenn Beck, whoever leaked these emails on a personal level (probably has Bill O'Reilly's book right next to Adolf's on his book shelf), the "right wing" blogosphere, and basically anyone who publicly disagrees with them.  Oh, and marginalize the average Middle American as being ignorant.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

Dave ... stop Dave

A hoax too big too fail...

Sigh!

The Enquirer Did Break Gary Hart & John Edwards

When the MSM refused to cover THOSE stories...who won that one? 

But keep in mind in a very small sstory a couple of weeks ago, NASA admitted that it's temperature data was flawed and couldn't be depended upon for accuracy for a 20 year period, from 1981 until 2001 or so...just thinking here...hhhhmmm, I bet those years were central to AGW and CRU's data sets. 

 Also see this devastating post on PJM: 

 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/climategate-computer-codes-are-the-real-story/

Rich V.

www.thevailspot.blogspot.com

rvail...You're mistaken about Hart.

Newsweek published rumors about Hart's infidelity at the time he announced his candidacy.  The actual details of the Rice affair were first reported by The Miami Herald.  The MSM was all over the story. 

Jer

One of the reporters name?

JP Bender (a friend of mine) worked for the Nat. Enq. 

Rich V.

www.thevailspot.blogspot.com

though on hart you may be right

I've killed off a lot of brain cells since then 

Rich V.

www.thevailspot.blogspot.com

Rich V.

The infamous "Monkey Business" photo of Hart with Rice in his lap was from the Enquirer.

Jer

Oh, and 1 more thing...

NASA unequivocably stated that the warmest RECORDED year was 1934...not 1998.  '98 didn't even make the top 10...think about it... 

Rich V.

www.thevailspot.blogspot.com

NASA said no such

NASA said no such thing. 

1934 was the warmest year on record in the United States.  That is a different thing than the 'warmest year on record', which implies global, not national, scope.

Thanks NL

We are winning the debate, (you know, the one that is over). No need to let false statements linger. 

I have argued in the past that models are subjective, and ripe to be manipulated. Lo and behold, that is just what has been happening. Now they want to redefine "peer review"? Peer review never meant sh%t to me in the face of common sense. 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

1934

There is a reason why 1934 was the warmest year on record in the USA. That was the year in the middle of the Dust Bowl era. Groundsoil blew away and less moisture on the ground which caused less rainfall which would normally cool off the area. Thus the record heat. This was covered in a great History channel documentary about the Dust Bowl. I saw that earlier this year.

You've got the plow before the mule

It was the heat and drought that caused the topsoil to dry out and eventually get blown away, over 500,000 tons I believe, not the loss of moisture that caused the heat.

It's kind of like when Climate Alarmists correlate CO2 with increased temperatures and think it's the CO2 causing the warming (1 part CO2 per 2600 parts atmosphere) rather than the warming causing the release of more CO2.

The planting of trees and other conversation acts helped educate people on, hopefully, preventing that from happening. metaphorsbwithu

My favorite lines from your

My favorite lines from your link, rvail:

(1) “Each parameter has a tortuous history of manual and semi-automated interventions that I simply cannot just go back to early versions and run the update prog.”

Their data was run with manual interventions to provide the results they wanted! There can be no other interpretation of this sentence.

(2) The New York Times, publisher of the Pentagon Papers, and about two dozen other classified documents over the past three-plus decades, suddenly stands tall as the protector of the Climate-gate e-mails. To paraphrase, the e-mails were not intended for public eyes.

__________
"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song

They're all "pod" people

As in Invasion of the Body Snatchers, not 2001 ("Open the pod bay doors, HAL").

 That's the only logical explanation.

P.J. - great piece, btw!

Queen to Bishop 3, Bishop takes Queen, Knight takes Bishop. Mate.

metaphorsbwithu

LA Times same thing

Must check out the comments on a silly article on California's cap-and-trade plan.

 http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/greenspace/2009/11/california-cap-and-trade-plan.html

The Cover

Pretty much the way I thought these Leftist creeps would cover this. Or is that 'not cover the uncovering of the coverup'.

 

Sarah Palin: The Most Dangerous Conservative In America

Beary cute~

Lots of good meat here, so I don't want to be fluffy & dismissive of that...but I gotta say: the polar bear graphic cracks me up!

"We don't see things as they are. We see them as we are."~Anais Nin, American writer 

But . . . .

Where are their bottles of Coca-Cola?? 

 

Sarah Palin: The Most Dangerous Conservative In America

Doc~

They probably already downed them before they went on their penguin hunt. :) 

"We don't see things as they are. We see them as we are."~Anais Nin, American writer 

The perpetrators of this fraud should all be arrested & tried

And once convicted and sentenced, they should be forced to either repay the taxpayers for every government grant they have ever received, or be sent back to spend the rest of their lives riding a bench in a federal prison.

And they can start with Al Gore.

-Dave

Our elected representatives have failed us.  

A very good start, Dave! If they can find him! I think he is

hiding in some secret underground bunker on his property ;-)  It will be most interesting to hear what he has to say once he surfaces!

This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Domestic Right Wing Terrorist!  And now by our president as a 'swiftboater' - both titles I'll wear proudly!

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams

202.224.3121   LET CONGRESS HEAR THE ROAR OF THE SILENT MAJORITY!

202.456.1111   WHITE HOUSE COMMENT LINE

 

CC, when I think of the billions this fraud has been used to

...screw us taxpayers out of, not to mention our private property rights, as well as a bunch of others, it makes my blood boil.

Besides, I spent 3 summers here in Atlanta sweating my ass off in a black Maxima that had a terrible AC system because of these people.

LOL-I demand justice!

-Dave

Our elected representatives have failed us.  

To quote SNL, I do believe these snakeoil 'scientists' have

'done sex' to the entire world...and never even gave us a kiss ;-)

Hope the SNL crew is equally on topic this week!  It was getting pretty tiresome as they continued to ignore 'the one' and all of his goofs!

Houston's gotta problem....

...and the problem is.....this is the home of thousands of some of the most gifted earth scientists in the world working in the oil industry.  Read the comments in the Houston Comical and you will realize that many of the opinions are being expressed by geologists who have actually gone out and studied the rock record and come to their own conclusions about paleoclimate.  Its kinda-sorta important to know that stuff when drilling a $100 MM well in the middle of nowhere north of BFE but west of East Jabbip.

On another subject, Obama is now offering to share with the Chinese all of the American technology used  to unlock the wealth of shale gas while blocking E&P here in the States.  Americans have been on the forefront of this field for years...heck, ever since the oil industry began.... and now have been villified by these bozos in government, yet Obama wants to kiss China's butt. 

Twas' not a hacker...

From the beginning I have thought it was an inside job. I have had serious reservations that it was a "hacker" (I am also a computer scientist of almost 30 years). Further, I refute RealClimate.org's assurtion that the "hackers" tried to hack their servers as well. ... to that I say BS! There would be no benefit for someone to do so, and a lot to lose. Did they try to post a comment with a download link? Yup, I bet so, but they did not "hack" anything.

Twas' an insider, plain and simple.

P.S. According to the tone of the message that was posted for the link, it suggests that this may be only the first release of e-mails and data. As they stated "this is a random sampling" ... stay tuned, me thinks....

Squidly...excellent points,

Squidly...excellent points, I've had a few thoughts wondering if somebody on the inside was behind this as well...like you say, this isn't the end, gets curiouser and curiouser ...I'll be staying tuned.

'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart

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