MSNBC's Anti-Military Anchor Hayes Says His Parents Are 'Heroic Figures'
NewsBusters reported Sunday that MSNBC anchor Chris Hayes is "uncomfortable" calling America's fallen military members "heroes."
According to a June 2011 piece about him published by the far-left Alternet, Hayes has no problem saying his parents are "heroic figures":
Hayes hails from the Bronx, where his Italian-American mother grew up, the daughter of a delicatessen owner. His father found his way to New York from Chicago via the Jesuits, while studying for the priesthood. While in seminary, his Irish-American father, Roger Hayes, did his first community organizing "for people who had trained with Alinsky," Hayes says with a chuckle. When he was finishing up his degree at Fordham University, Roger Hayes moved into the apartment building where his mother, Geri, lived with her parents, beginning a courtship that prompted the young seminarian to leave the priesthood.
Today his parents both work for the City of New York: Geri, a former schoolteacher, works for the NYC Department of Education, and Roger, after many years of community organizing, does health advocacy work in East Harlem for the NYC Department of Health. His younger brother is the Nevada state director for Organizing For America, the grassroots group built from the lists of the 2008 Obama campaign.
"My parents are totally amazing, heroic figures," Hayes says.
So Hayes is "uncomfortable" calling fellow Americans that have died serving their country heroes, but his parents - one a former community organizer "for people who had trained with [Saul] Alinsky" - qualify for such an honor.
As I've said for years, it takes a lot of rationalizations to be a liberal these days.
(HT NB reader Calvin)
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Rationalizing, not rational
Submitted by mcherr on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 10:54am.
- "It is amazing how many people think that they can answer an argument by attributing bad motives to those who disagree with them. Using this kind of reasoning, you can believe or not believe anything about anything, without having to bother to deal with facts or logic." – Thomas Sowell
Kinda like Rosie O'Donnel
Submitted by NCfairandbalanced on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 10:57am.
Kinda like Rosie O'Donnel saying years ago to take guns away from EVERYONE...police, whoever...EXCEPT my kid's bodyguard.
Unbelievable.
Just look at this bedwetter...
Submitted by daddysyk on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 11:04am.
This is what is produced by parents like his. I would give anything to put this guy in a Marine bar near Camp Pendleton and let him explain how his 60's radical parents are more deserving of the title hero than any of their fallen comrades. The scary thing is that there are a lot of people who share Chris's (I just cannot bring myslf to call him "Mister") views on the military that are working in the current administration.
Bedwetter
Submitted by misterbee241 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 6:53pm.
Thanks. I'm getting tired of using "pasty faced little puke." Too much typing anyway.
Also appropriate
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Tue, 05/29/2012 - 7:28am.
"Rumpswab."
Hey, it's all about MEEEEEEE!
Submitted by merly1 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 11:11am.
He is so typical of why we now have a 16T federal debt, and why we
dont hold our politicians accountable for their failures.
Lucky it wasn't Obama, merly
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 11:24am.
....because Obama would say "I am a totally, amazing, heroic figure. I am my hero."
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
You've gotta wonder how many
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 1:00pm.
You've gotta wonder how many times Boy BlahBlah will say 'I', 'me', 'my', and 'mine' today while he is 'honoring' our troops. Just go back to his little self-absorbed spiel after the SEALS took out Osama Obama bin Laden.
Good one Blonde! = Laugh out
Submitted by merly1 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 7:19pm.
Good one Blonde! = Laugh out loud humor.
Yep, nobody is more self-absorbed than Obama, best demonstrated by the rush
to reveal all secrets to Hollywood in the OBL killing.
;)
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 7:39pm.
After 140 gaffes, I know him like the back of my hand (unfortunately).
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
"Rhetorically proximate"
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 11:14am.
I'm hesitant to call his parents heroes lest it encourage like liberals to breed more offspring like Chris Hayes.
Christopher's heroes
Submitted by Agnostic on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 11:19am.
From an earlier post (won't boor you with the entirety):
No disrespect to Sen. Kerry's questionable service (just questions) but Christopher didn't seem to mind him being a war hero:
http://upwithchrishayes.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/08/9300972-everythin...
Took a simple search and it was also linked at Ace of Spades HQ :
http://minx.cc/?post=329622
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2012/05/27/chris-hayes-im-...
You know liberals HATE the internet!
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 11:27am.
They keep getting caught red-handed because everyone can go and check on what they've said about the subject before.
Good research, agnostic
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 1:14pm.
Hayes is indeed a hypocritcal ass.
And using his strange logic of the "rhetorically proximate" - - -
1. We should not refer to lost firefighters as heroes lest we encourage more fires.
2. We should not refer to lost police officers as heroes lest we encourage more crime.
Hypocrisy, thy name is Chris Hayes.
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 11:37am.
While in seminary, his [heroic] Irish-American father, Roger Hayes, did his first community organizing "for people who had trained with Alinsky," Hayes says with a chuckle.
You mean he organized marches on gated communities?
I guess community organizing was heroic back then, but now it's a bad thing, because that's what Republican's want to accuse Obama of.
Ummmmmmm
Submitted by Joe W. on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 11:30am.
(((SPIT)))---'Nuff said.
I'm at a loss.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 11:36am.
I sit here, wasting a beautiful day, trying to think of a nice way to reply to Chris. Sorry, but I just can't come up with one.
Hey, Chris, kiss my red, white, and blue ass, you Red, Black, and Yellow bastard.
And speaking of colors, Mr.
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 12:56pm.
And speaking of colors, Mr. Veteran Bubba, let's not forget about Chrissie-Poo's other 'hero' - Boy Baraka - who happens to be Black and White and RED all over!!!
Close, Killaman.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 2:01pm.
You need to add YELLOW!
He's a stinking coward to the core.
Thread winner
Submitted by misterbee241 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 6:55pm.
Thread winner here.
Anyone else notice...
Submitted by Bill Brasky on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 11:38am.
The "men" of the left are a bunch of limp wrist nerds?
Pretty obvious
Submitted by misterbee241 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 6:57pm.
isn't it? And the biggest one is in the White House.
His parents aren't
Submitted by redfish on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 11:52am.
His parents aren't rhetorically proximate to justifying war.
1%
Submitted by Texndoc on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 11:58am.
Rush Limbaugh has always said the Occupy Wall Street movement was nothing but a movement launched as a missile against Mitt Romney as the Republican candidate, and this nerd is neck-high in it. He has some book coming out about the evil, evil 1% and the heroic Obama.
Oh my, he has the perfect liberal credentials.
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 12:16pm.
"His" dad is a former priest turned community organizer after working for the city government. Mom is a city employee too. Little brother is a community agitator/organizer (somebody please tell me the difference?) in southern Nevada licking Harry Reid's boots. And now Chris(tine) Hayes is a talking head, to the left of even Chairman Mao, on the nation's most notorious liberal propaganda network. Why if they were any more perfect in the liberal/leftist sense, they would all have been family members of Vladimir Lenin or French "centrists".
No wonder Rachel Maddow's little sister doesn't consider the military to be heroes. He would genetically self-destruct if he placed an American flag on the grave of one of the fallen. Somehow, I don't think the person lying in the grave would appreciate Chris(tine) feigning respect. His mere existence and his family history are testament to wasted lives.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 12:35pm.
This is perfect--both mommy and daddy are paid by the taxpayers.
They did a great job with this little wuss, no?
I'd Pay Real Money...
Submitted by Samaritan01 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 12:38pm.
...to drop this steaming pile of monkey-spunk into a fire fight and watch his definition of "heroic" change in an instant.
Chris Hayes makes his move
Submitted by CO2Maker on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 12:50pm.
"Hey, babe—uh, Ms. Babe, with all due respect—can I get carnally proximate with you?"
"Oh, go play in traffic, you metro-moron. But first, give Rachel Madcow here glasses back."
For some strange reason, I
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 12:58pm.
For some strange reason, I doubt that this little tilley-assed twerp is interested in women - and if he is, I wouldn't want to meet the type that he is attracted to!!!
Paging
Submitted by misterbee241 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 6:59pm.
Margaret Cho. Chris Hayes on line one.
Has the country so lowered
Submitted by rbosque on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 12:58pm.
Has the country so lowered their expectations of people to the point where this bile is normal? Just a few short years ago anyone who would say this publicly would have been admonished by all, now only those who have standards are denouncing him. Why hasn't MSNBC asked him to apologize? They are just as guilty of stupidity and slander to those who have died as this piece of garbage.
They haven't asked him to apologize...
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 1:10pm.
because they see nothing to apologize for?
Well, knock me over with a butt plug.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 1:19pm.
I would've guessed Poppa Hayes was a boxer or a steamfitter.
I thought he was the towel boy at the
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 1:36pm.
neighborhood bath house.
Read more than the right-wing gotcha sound bite
Submitted by alvin on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 1:29pm.
GEORGE S. PATTON: “It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died.
Let's criticize Patton also - unless you read more of what he said.
Hey, Alveen, you little lib liar, why not post the entire
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 1:34pm.
quote?
"It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather, we should thank God that such men lived." Oh, that's right, it doesn't fit in with lib philosophy.
I often say to servicemen...
Submitted by poseA on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 3:07pm.
I often say to servicemen, "I thank God for those willing to bleed so the rest of us don't have to".
alvin - cute
Submitted by Agnostic on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 1:37pm.
so is Memorial Day a day of mourning or day of tribute to the men and women who have served this nation? I never thought it a day of mourning but perhaps is to you.
Who the hell is mourning, Chipmonk?
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 2:06pm.
We HONOR their memory, their sacrifice, and their love for God and country.
You miss the very obvious
Submitted by BD on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 2:57pm.
You miss the very obvious point of Patton's comment.
Try again.
If you need help I am available for further work in this area.
BD, ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 5:50pm.
... if you and the chipmonk get together, could you whup his ice for us?
False equivalency
Submitted by Model850 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 3:41pm.
You're trying to compare apples to oranges.
First, no one took Hayes' comment out of context, nor did they purposely truncate it to make it seem he was saying something he was not really saying. Second, I suspect the main reason posters here are on his case is because of his earlier comment about being reluctant to call fallen military "heroes."
That slur, coupled with his unequivocally calling his parents "heroic figures" is what people find objectionable. Had he not made the foolish remark about fallen military I doubt anyone here would even notice, much less give a rat's a$$ about, his characterizing his parents as heroes.
Who are your
Submitted by misterbee241 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 7:02pm.
heroes, Alvin?
I personally
Submitted by Shreve on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 1:36pm.
don't like war. Iraq and Afghanistan were wars we should have never been involved in. But I blame that on the commanders, not on the individual soldiers.
If any war should have been fought in the last 100 years, it was WWII.
Everyone have a good day.
Shreve,
Submitted by Agnostic on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 1:48pm.
Who does like war - outside of when it makes a good movie?
I will admit that I was not in favor of either the Iraq or Afghanistan wars either but we need to expand on your rationalization of WWII as being the 'good war'. Why do you thing WWII was the good war? Because it stopped Hitler? The Reich? Millions of people died across the globe because the nations of the world put off dealing with a deadly regime until it was nearly too late. Should we wait again for our enemies to amass the wealth and following to create another WW? We are at a tipping point with Islam and the hold they have been able to gain in the last 4-5 years. The only reason we don't have to worry about direct military attacks yet is because they are still splintered but united they have the weapons, man power and religious fanaticism necessary to create another WWII scenario. Shall we give them the freedom, money and time necessary to unite?
The only things that have made the wars since WWII 'bad' is the fact that an expanded media has been able cover the war which in turn made the politicians feel the need to 'get involved'.
Only WWII? THen you are
Submitted by BD on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 2:59pm.
Only WWII?
THen you are either a bad student of history, or you have no heart.
Shreve, ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 5:59pm.
nobody likes war, especially the poor slobs having to fight it.
They especially hate wars that our politicians decide aren't worth winning AFTER they start the G*d damned thing.
They REALLY hate bastards who decide that we are going to quit on so future date, and then announce it to our enemies.
WWII was a "good" war because we did what needed to be done to win it! The Germans and the japanese both tried to get terms of surrender to end the war when it was apparent that we were kicking their asses, but Roosevelt refused anything but unconditional surrender.
Had he settled for "peace at any price" we would have been fighting the same damned war again within five of ten years.
So, yeah, Iraq sucks and so does Alf's home country, but NOT because of anything that the military did. It all belongs to the politicians who lost the will to win, if in fact they ever had it.
Blame the commanders
Submitted by misterbee241 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 7:09pm.
for what? They can only execute what the civilian bosses allow them. Ever hear of Rules of Engagement? Right out of the White House.
And during Vietnam ol' LBJ and Robert McNamara personally planned the bombing missions even to picking the bombing routes in and out and picking the bomb loads. McNamara even demanded a daily bullet count from his commanders. How can you win a war like that? Fact is, we didn't.
Exactly
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 7:34pm.
The commanders can only fight the war with the forces, rules, and objectives made available to them. It is the President armed with the Constitutional approval of the Congress that initiates or responds to war activity.
One thing you can say for his remark
Submitted by CO2Maker on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 2:03pm.
"Rhetorically proximate" is a phrase that would never occur to Ed Washerman Schmutz or Rev. Tawana Sharpyton.
Rhetoric we much!
I REPEAT WHAT I SAID.......
Submitted by Herbster on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 3:37pm.
I repeat what I posted yesterday after reading the anti-hero comments of this twerp. I stated yesterday that obviously, this cgeature's parents were Communist pseudo intellectuals. I stand by the accuracy, and for all to see, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Thinks that OWS Heroic
Submitted by AMR1960 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 4:48pm.
This POS has gushed over and described the OWS protesters as Heroic
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Long Live...THE REPUBLIC !
➚Hayes apologizes
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 7:36pm.
Chicken $4it Hayes has now issued an apology for being a chicken $4it.
For a change, an insightful apology*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 8:03pm.
Thank you CA.
After reading his apology, it seems he recognizes his timing was very poor. But what impressed me about his apology, unlike other liberal attempts at same, this man admitted to liberal hypocrisy. Now that is a first.
So on behalf of my fallen family members , I accept your apology Mr Hayes.
Thanks CA for the update. Hayes apology does appear to be an
Submitted by Rush Fan on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 8:30pm.
honest apology. However, it's difficult to tell when a lefty tells the truth or is lying.
I'm gonna hafta check out
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 05/28/2012 - 9:46pm.
I'm gonna hafta check out this little queeb's 'apology', I guess. What's he apologizing for - telling the TROOF, as he sees it??? If that's the case, then the apology is bogus............
And speaking of apologies - I heard Rush issue his 'apology' to Ms. Fluke/Fluck back a few weeks ago, and I"m convinced that the whole thing was a put-on that he pulled off very well. What do you think???
Killa.....You may be right on the money. Rush is the ultimate
Submitted by Rush Fan on Tue, 05/29/2012 - 12:15am.
showman, so I wouldn't put it passed him. Perhaps his wife convinced him. It doesn't matter. Fluck is a flake.
Memorial Day Postscript
Submitted by berlet98 on Tue, 05/29/2012 - 1:37am.
Memorial Day Postscript
In “Memorial Day 2012″, I committed a serious error of omission as well as what liberals would characterize as a grievous blunder in word usage.
In calling for renewed recognition of the meaning of Memorial Day honoring the 1,343,812 men and women who have died in the service of our country, I neglected to mention the tens of millions of veterans of America’s wars who honorably served. I also made the mistake–according to the Left–of calling our war dead “heroes.”
Americans often confuse Memorial Day, formerly known as Decoration Day, with another national holiday, Veterans’ Day, originally referred to as Armistice Day.
Memorial Day honors our war dead whereas the latter commemorates the official conclusion of World War One on the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month of 1918. The purpose of Veterans’ day was later changed to celebrate all who have served in America’s military.
In fact, all veterans should be saluted as heroes and remembered in our prayers. The only difference between them and our fallen heroes is that they survived.
Consider showing your appreciation and support for our hero vets by contributing to the very worthy Wounded Warrior Project.
Then, again, are they really “heroes”?
Chris Hayes thinks not.
The leftist weekend host and fill-in for Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz, and Lawrence O’Donnell on MSNBC, the cable “news” adjunct of Barack Hussein Obama’s Democrat Party, believes his parents are “totally amazing, heroic figures” because they are far-out liberals. But he thinks referring to America’s fallen as “is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war.”
What Jesuitical gibberish!
In honor of Memorial Day, Hayes felt compelled to demean our military and those who gave their lives for us. He said he feels “uncomfortable” in describing fallen American soldiers as “heroes.”
In a stuttering, semi-articulate attack on those brave men and women, an attack with which his liberal guests fully concurred, Hayes uncomfortably explained his discomfort.
In his own rambling words, Hayes said that ”Thinking today and observing Memorial Day, that’ll be happening tomorrow. . . Um, I, I, ah, back sorry, um, I think it’s interesting because I think it is very difficult to talk about the war dead and the fallen without invoking valor, without invoking the words “heroes.”
Apparently, valor is as evil as heroism to America’s nasty, confused libs.
If that insightful observation were not sufficient to demonstrate Hayes’ insensitive ignorance of the meaning of a hero and their ultimate sacrifice, he added, ”Um, and, ah, ah, why do I feel so comfortable [sic] about the word “hero”? I feel comfortable, ah, uncomfortable, about the word because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war.”
Perhaps realizing his grossly irrational insult of those who died and to give him more opportunity to make an ass of himself, Hayes babbled on: “Um, and, I don’t want to obviously desecrate or disrespect memory of anyone that’s fallen, and obviously there are individual circumstances in which there is genuine, tremendous heroism: hail of gunfire, rescuing fellow soldiers and things like that. But it seems to me that we marshal this word in a way that is problematic. But maybe I’m wrong about that.”
I’m embarrassed to admit that I have a number of things in common with Hayes, including being a Catholic, Jesuit-educated Bronx native of Irish extraction who also graduated from Fordham University although I don’t share either his liberal family background nor Hayes’ radical leftism.
Nevertheless, I completely understand Hayes’ discomfort. . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=24720.)
PC Convulsion
Submitted by RME KRNL on Tue, 05/29/2012 - 3:16am.
Some of these PC lefties twist themselves into such verbal contortions, trying to be sooo PC, that they just wind up sounding stupid. As a disabled vet who lost some buddies "over there," MSLSD and this twit who's never served his country in any capacity a day in his life can go screw themselves.
Happy Memorial Day, douchebags. I served and some of my buddies died so you can go on TV and act stupid.
their heros
Submitted by D'saredumbpeople on Tue, 05/29/2012 - 8:10am.
they should have drowned the rat at birth.