NYT's Thomas Friedman Proves Rubio's Point: GOP 'Being Led Around By Extremist Tea Party'
Speaking on the floor of the Senate Saturday, Marco Rubio (R-Fl.) said, "If we had a billion dollars for every time I heard the words 'Tea Party extremist,' we could solve this debt problem."
Proving his point about the vitriolic name-calling of conservatives so prevalent now, New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman began his most recent piece, "Watching today's Republicans being led around by an extremist Tea Party":
Watching today's Republicans being led around by an extremist Tea Party faction, with no adult supervision, I find my mind drifting back to the late 1980s when I was assigned to cover the administration of George H.W. Bush, who I believe is one of our most underrated presidents.
That was just the start of Friedman's attacks:
Today's G.O.P. has gone from espousing cap-and-trade to deal with pollution to espousing the notion that all the world's climate scientists have secretly gotten together and perpetrated a ''hoax,'' called climate change, in order to expand government -- all of this at a time of record heat waves and climate disruptions.
All the world's climate scientists? Shouldn't Friedman say, "All the world's climate scientists I agree with?
Any honest journalist - I know that's an oxymoron today! - would certainly be aware of the existence of thousands of prominent climate scientists around the world that either don't think carbon dioxide is a factor in the less than one degree Celsius rise in temperatures the past 160 years or believe it's a minor precipitant.
Failing this, Friedman was expressing an "extremist" view as he arrogantly accused others of doing so:
Where have all the adults in this party gone? Where is Dick Lugar, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Colin Powell, Hank Paulson and Big Business? Are you telling me that they are ready to fall in line behind Michele Bachmann, Grover Norquist, Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin? Are these really the pacesetters of modern conservatism?
So, Republicans in Name Only - folks whose political views are closer to Friedman's - are "adults" while those espousing real conservative opinions aren't.
It's exactly this kind of nonsense that Rubio spoke of Saturday (relevant section at 5:30):
SENATOR MARCO RUBIO (R-FLORIDA): If we had a billion dollars for every time I heard the words "Tea Party extremist," we could solve this debt problem. So all this name-calling, so I said let me read some quotes about this debt limit and I found some pretty extremist quotes.
Here's one. It says, "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I, therefore, intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt.” A quote from a Tea Party extremist, right? No. This is a quote from March 16 of 2006 from Senator Barack Obama of Illinois.
I found another extremist quote. This one says, "Because this massive of accumulation of debt was predicted, because it was foreseeable, because it was unnecessary, because it was the result of willful and reckless disregard for the warnings that were given and for the fundamentals of economic management, I am voting against a debt limit increase.” Well, that must be from a Tea Party extremist member of the House, right? No. This is March 16, 2006, from Senator Joe Biden of Delaware.
And last but not least, here's a quote from September 27 of 2007. It says, "I find it distasteful and disturbing to increase the debt limit yet again. Clearly we need to change course and this debt limit bill is just another reminder of that." And that is from the distinguished Senator from Nevada, the majority leader. On that date in 2007.
And yet now these same quotes in this context, what we're talking about raising the debt limit more than has ever been raised in one vote, is extremism? This name-calling is absurd and it sets this process back.
Indeed it is, and almost on cue Sunday, Friedman was guilty as charged.
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The Tea party would be
Submitted by jkwtrading on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 12:16pm.
The Tea party would be extreme to a fascist political hack like Friedman and the entire Democrat party. Freedom is extreme to a group of people whom want to regulate the very air we breathe.
The "State" Over The "Individual"
Submitted by Wildcatter1980 on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 1:31pm.
If you have read Jonah Goldberg's Liberal Fascism, you would understand that to liberal secular progressives like Friedman, they can only see the "state" as being the solution to all the world's problems. The reason they think that is because they believe it is their "superior" intelligence--and other people's money--that will make the difference.
Of course, these superior intellects completely ignore history. They dismiss Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, and Soviet Union not to mention modern Europe and how their highly socialized economies have failed to raise the standards of living for the average citizen. They also dismiss how America's exceptionalism with it's fundamental differences--the government governs with the consent of the people and it's limitations protecting the creator-endowed rights of the individual--has enabled the average citizen to achieve a very high standard of living.
What Friedman, Obama and democrat party fear is that the Tea Party movement will continue to gather momentum and most people will see them as the extremist radicals who need to be shunned by everyone else.
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If you want to know what liberal secular progressives are really doing, just listen to what they are accusing others of.
Recommended reading: Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg
his books are usually good, I
Submitted by jkwtrading on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 4:43pm.
his books are usually good, I might buy it or read it. To me though its rather obvious liberals need a good hand smacking. or as I'd prefer teeth knocked down their throats.
Great comment
Submitted by CradleofIdiocy on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 11:00pm.
I have "Liberal Fascism" on the shelf in my home library right now. I'd highly recommend it, too.
Yours was a very insightful comment.
Great comment
Submitted by CradleofIdiocy on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 11:02pm.
I have "Liberal Fascism" on the shelf in my home library right now. I'd highly recommend it, too.
Yours was a very insightful comment.
Friedmn
Submitted by kiwikit on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 5:14am.
How old is that picture? Looks like at least a decade ago. This guy should always be shown accompanied by an image of his mansion. . .
→ Friedman's a DOOFUS
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 12:26pm.
And he can't get his facts straight. Let me help you, Doofus.
It began as "The Next Ice Age" OOPS (drawing board) er, I really meant to say "Global Warming" OOPS (drawing board) er, what it really is, is "Climate Change"!
Stay tuned for "Just give me your %*&^# money"
Getting despicable
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 12:30pm.
I'm seriously despising more and more every day the MSM, the Dems, the Libs, tbe bogus potus, every time they say something against the TEA Party when they themselves are the extremists(violating the Constitution isn't extreme?), the terrorists(telling senior citizens they won't get their checks isn't terrorizing them?), hell, just plain criminals(gunrunner, exposing secrets, many many more).
Sooner or later there's going to be a final straw and there's going to be more than just a broken back of a camel.
I dare them to just try.
-Jon
Court ordered name change ?
Submitted by AGreer on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 11:40pm.
Can the TEA party take him to court to change his last name to "Friedbrain" ?
Just to let people know that he's an idiot and a tool.
This tool has gone beyond belief and then pushes it farther every time he appears on camera and in print.
WOW !
New TV commercial, this is you brain on liberalism !
They are losing the debate daily...
Submitted by AgentAmerican on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 12:46pm.
Friedman is only a small part of the MSM's pogrom machine. They are simply scared of a grass-roots movement that is sick and tired of business as usual.
Al Franken's stupid comments yesterday are another sign they are scared sh*tless that the Tea Party movement will spread until it is a physical entity that cannot be stopped by childish statements. It's funny that an election thief should refer to us as terrorists.
2012 is going to be a war of nerves and the MSM will throw everything they can at us. They are entering the Jim Jones Kool Aid phase, and Obama's defeat will not be pleasant. Expect organized riots to suddenly explode when his opponent is projected the winner. Prepare for the worst they have. If you think 2008 was vicious...start preparing folks. We can defeat their evil. They can be beaten.
So the DemoRATS are not being
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 12:55pm.
So the DemoRATS are not being lead around by the gay lobby, the gun grabbing lobby, the welfare state lobby or the union lobby just to name a few?
Rubio did okay, I think...
Submitted by NevadanConservative on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 1:10pm.
and he is spot on about the spending: we reform it and right now or we end up with hyperinflation and totalitarianism. Liberty's last and greatest house burns to the ground.
Mind you, the statists pouring gas and flinging matches isn't helping.
Milty... Extremist? The folks that fought and died to give you the FREEDOM to call others extremist were in their own right 'extremist'. And candidly, if 'mainstream' is sitting on asses and sucking up tax bucks from people that actually work for a living, or causing the laws that further such slothful conduct, or putting us even further into debt to KEEP these leeches fat, dumb, happy, reproducing, and voting statist...
then I am an 'extremist' from the very first time I voted for President. (First term Reagen. You've no diea how proud I was.)
Fragit. Just another label from a bunch whose mindset vaules appearance over substance. Call us anything you want, Milty... that vibration you're gonna be feeling next November is bonesaw against ivory tower. And no amount of namecalling is gonna stop that... in point of fact, it might just cause more saws to be used.
The bluebloods in the GOP need to know this too. Mind you, there are lost causes... McCain/Arnold and the Maine Twins, for three...
I digress.
NVCon
Rubio did OK?!?
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 3:53pm.
This freshman senator literally bitch slapped the Magnificent John Gin-Jus-Con Kerry, Professional U.S. Senator from the Common wealth of Messitusetts like he owned him!
Rubio wiped the floor with the arrogant plick. I suspect that the next senator who poses a question to Senator Rubio will have a little more knowledge at his fingertips. They now know that they aren't dealing with just some bull shiite artist like Bambi.
Not a single ahhhh ... ughhh .... ahhhh, you KNOW?! No Moron Prompter, damn few notes, and NO NOTES when he was chewing up Kerry.
He is the real deal, and I am proud that I got to vote for the gentleman from Florida.
Rubio was great...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 4:06pm.
as expected...as he always is. But he didn't bitch slap anyone, certainly not the "arrogant prick" from Massachusetts. Both Senators were extremely cordial and complimentary toward one another. Kerry spoke favorably about much of what Rubio summarized, analyzed and proposed.
Jer
Where I come from, Jer ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 5:07pm.
... we call what Rubio handed Kerry a real ass whupping.
Granted he did it in a most cordial, respectful, and polite manner, but he kicked his ass. It will only irritate liberals more that he did it in such a masterful way.
Kerry looked like a man in an intellectual dual who forgot to bring his weapon, if he actually has one.
bubba...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 5:38pm.
You do understand this was not a one-on-one debate in which--where I come from--the participants are granted equal time to argue their positions. Rubio had floor privileges, and his speech occupied at least 90% of the allotted time. He was gracious enough to permit Kerry to pose a couple of questions.
Kicked his ass, my ass. Look, I'm a big admirer of Rubio's abilities. He may very well demolish Kerry in an actual debate. But, this was not even remotely the case in this instance.
Jer
Typical democrat
Submitted by milootoole on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 6:02pm.
Whatever the issue---
High education costs--dem -"well that's what Bush left you with.
Major costs of illegal immigration-dem- "Well Bush didn't enforce our laws.
"Mission accomplished" sign on ship--dem - well bush hung that himself.
Listen--the fool in the White House ran on a platform. He willingly assumed the conditions left by his predecessor and those before him. He, in essence said, I am going to fix it. Well he could not fix a leaky faucet.
The costs of the wars--dem-"well bush started them"
To all you bloody pismire liberals tell your man to grow a pair and step up to the job. He is a dismal failure so far.
PS Rubio took Kerry to the woodshed. It was polite, courteous, but he definitely came out looking the better of the two. And what great insight from Kerry--"well, Bush........., yada, yada".
Rubio was excellent
Submitted by Galvanic on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 7:41pm.
His speech pointed to the hypocrisy of the Democratic senators by citing their own quotes. And Kerry looked like a fool when he asked his "question" by essentially explaining that the Democrats voted against raising the debt ceiling because the Republicans had enough votes to pass it.
So, what did Kerry confess?
1. They played politics with the debt ceiling.
2. Their statements were (and remain) insincere bullshit
Rubio won this one.
As for Friedman, he's as blind to change as his peers. Now that he's made $ millions writing columns and books for his elite peers in New York and Washington, he's getting uncomfortable with events for which he is intellectually unprepared to cope.
We had all better hope that the 2012 election won't be close
Submitted by virginia republican on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 1:21pm.
enough to enable the Dumbocrats to manufacture enough votes from dead people, ex-felons, illegal aliens, folks who vote early and often, etc to tip it Dear Leader's way.
If dufus Friedman's definition of an "extremist" is one who respects the Constitution and wants our leaders to adhere to it, then count me as another extremist.
Anybody see Raul Labrador mop the floor with other panelists...
Submitted by krendler on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 1:50pm.
on MTP this morning. Absolutely classic. Far and away the most thoughtful, articulate guy on the panel. Some tea party-backed "extremist", there. And he took zero prisoners. Completely humiliated Granholm (D) and the raising of taxes and skyrocketing unemployment in Michigan during her watch (in contrast to the economic success of TX). Granholm was forced into the fetal position, claiming it was global competitiveness that caused Michigan's problems. Laughable.
An even worse drubbing was dished out by Thume earlier in the broadcast on the always-embarrassing Claire McCaskill. All emotion and demagoguery - all the time from Claire. Every other phrase out of McCaskill's mouth was "big oil" and "rich bankers." The entire time she was smiling and talking too loudly for the setting, with eyes open extra wide for emphasis, leaning way forward and pleading with David Gregory to at least nod in agreement. Even Gregory, though, seemed annoyed by her demeanor and standard lib talking points. Thume, on the other hand, was the picture of composure and thoughtfulness. The way you'd expect an engineer or the CEO of a company to communicate and conduct himself.
The entire program was a wonderful exhibition of the stark differences between conservative politicians and their ideas (and overall intellect) and those offered by the left.
Thume | McCaskill
Lbrador | Granholm
The only pairing that might have cast conservatives in an even better light would have been Ryan versus Reid or Pelosi or Wasserman-Shitz or Frank or Maxine Waters or...take your pick.
I am happy to see fellow conservative Latinos...
Submitted by drsamherman on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 11:31pm.
...finally letting their voices be heard and letting the Democrats know they will not be silenced. For far too long, we Latinos have been taken as a singular voting bloc, believed by the left to be devoid of individual ideals and beliefs and expected by the left to just fall in line with their rantings and ravings. I have special appreciation for Raul Labrador and Marco Rubio, because they are young enough to be around for a very, very long time and to let the liberals know that our Latino voices are NOT to be taken for granted.
Sorry to be on my soapbox, but I have seen far too many instances where conservative Latino voices have been silenced by the bigoted stupidity of American liberals who treat us as if we do not exist. We pay taxes, we are patriotic Americans, we are putting our lives on the line every day for the betterment of our world and yet we are continually told we are "outside of the mainstream". To hell with that and to hell with being ignored for having our own opinions. To liberals, all conservative American Latinos are Cubanos from Miami. Hate to tell you liberals, but there are conservative American Latinos who are Mexicans, Guatemalans, Costa Riquenos, Puerto Riquenos, Argentinians, Uruguayans, Ecuadorians, etc. Our voices are just now being heard and we will not be silenced. We are American citizens of several generations and we helped build this country.
I just had to say that. Sorry if I am hijacking the thread here.
Sing it, Doc!
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 11:44pm.
And please, don't apologize!
Throughout my trip last year, driving, to Costa Rica and back, I was awed by the true nature of the culture in Latin America. Listening to the media, one would think the whole mindset is the "gimme, welfare recipient". Hardly.
The democrats pander and take for granted the "latino" vote. At their peril. Family, friends, duty, honor, country....that's what I observed, and that is about as "conservative" as it gets.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
I couldn't agree more with
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 1:27am.
I couldn't agree more with both of you! That *kid* who lived with us for 1 1/2 years when his mom lost the house and the family had to split up? Latino - he's my son's best friend. And I was surprised he voted for Obama, since I knew the values he grew up with were conservative!
Ronald Reagan
Forgive me but with a name of
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 12:41am.
Forgive me but with a name of Herman, I would not have guessed in a zillion years Gould would have a Latino heritage.
Just wondering...
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 5:02pm.
....you do know that I am Latino right?
I just watched it - I almost
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 1:42am.
I just watched it - I almost feel sorry for her, it was obvious she was like a bull in a china shop {stupid saying btw} and Thune was a gentleman for not rubbing her nose in it!!!
btw - I think she got work done, hence the "wide" eye look.
Ronald Reagan
Rubio took ol' Longface
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 2:09pm.
Rubio took ol' Longface Effing Kerry to the woodshed during this conversation............I think JFK needed to go back to the barn and eat some oats and sulk, except that he's too haughty and arrogant to know that he's been schooled..........
And somehow, this band of meaningless and unimportant 'extremists' TEA partiers are somehow holding the GOP , Congress, and American hostage???
I was working inside a house the other day, and I had the TV on for some background noise. There was an interview going on with two TEA party congressmen - a white guy and a black guy - and they were both very articulate and straighforward and concise in what they were saying. Of course, I know by doing that alone would rankle most of these MSM pundits, because they operate on 'nuance' and 'intelligence' and 'complexity'...............anything but the plain and simple truth.
My guy Marco is brilliant AND passionate
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 2:51pm.
When he says he loves this country, he makes you want to wave the flag.
I can't wait until he runs for President. He is the real deal.
As for F'ing....the long face defended Senator Obama's "extremist rhetoric" and also his vote against raising the debt ceiling as "symbolic". What a moron. His careful, lawyerly "question" was so typically phrased to gain Marco's agreement, but the handsome young Senator Rubio is too smart to fall for such silly tricks. I know Marco is too much of a gentleman to have batted that softball stupidity out of the park with "Well, Mr. Senator Flip-Flop from Mass., apparently President Obama is a LOT like you, in that he voted against it before he voted for it". It would have been priceless to see Kerry's face after that. :)
I would remind people here that prior to running for Senate, Marco Rubio was the Speaker of the Florida House. He is a VERY accomplished legislator, even though he is a freshman. And after 2012, he WILL be the senior senator from Florida once we dump Bill Nelson.
The media can say whatever lie they care to about "extremist" Tea Partiers. The public knows their game, only the truly liberal wingnuts believe it. Their cries of racist didn't work....I wonder what "ist" we'll be in the fall?
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Friedman's Ideal Is the One Party State
Submitted by Comrade Jim on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 2:14pm.
Of Communist China. Remember his recommendation:
"One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century." - Thomas Friedman
What's a gulag or a Tienanmen square here or there for political opponents when you can get things done that the People's Party deems be done.
China is much more
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 2:40pm.
China is much more 'capitalistc' and business oriented these days than we are.
Not Really, In China
Submitted by Comrade Jim on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 4:27pm.
Wholly State Owned Enterprises (SOEs) account for about 30% of investment.
Partial SOEs (State plus private investment) about 30% [China miscounts these as private.]
Private Enterprises about 30%
Confusion about 10%
Obama may be envious of China's SOEs but he ain't there yet.
You're facts are probably
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 4:47pm.
You're facts are probably right........I've just been there, and I communicate with some people there.....but either way, they ARE geared towards doing business, keeping people employed, and turning out a product - which is a helluva lot more than we can say for Boy Blunder. And I've got a friend in Hong Kong, which is, I believe, one of the highest rated places for doing business in the world.
And I wonder how those number stack up to ours.
My Facts are gleaned from the Heritage Foundation
Submitted by Comrade Jim on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 7:55pm.
Which gleans them from Official Chinese reports. I suspect they aren't super reliable but good enough for government work. With growth rates of around 10% you are clearly right; China is "geared towards doing business". Luckily Hong Kong (with it's near idyllic business climate) was (as I understand it) allowed to carry on without much interference after the British left.
I doubt if we disagree. My original point was that China is a one-party state which Friedman was applauding. Any political party always has opposition including the party of a one-party state. It must rely on corruption and suppression to maintain its status, something that apparently doesn't bother Friedman.
Nah, I don't think that we
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 8:14pm.
Nah, I don't think that we disagree at all. And that 'one-party' state that Friedmind was talking about sure as hell is operating on a different wavelength than the 'one-party' state that he seems to want to see here in the USA!!! China is moving forward - they keep their debt minimal (well, aside from the fact that they own a boatload of OURS....and also Europe's) and their growth-rate going......AND they are pretty strict about their national security (check out how they deal with the Mooooooooooooooooooslems in the western part of the country). I know that when I went there, I had to have all of my paperwork in order - and the security guys were a little cold - but everything else was OK, and everywhere I went was a helluva lot safer than some places here on my island, and many places in Honolulu!!! And I was on my own - not in any kind of group - or with a Chinese girl....which probably raised a few eyebrows. But the people were either pretty nice, or I didn't even matter to them.
And, from what I can tell, our dear old USA has been moving backwards under the Obama REGIME.......because of his policies and his own vision of America. Didn't he say that he'd like to be President of China??? Hell, if he tried these tactics over there, he'd have about a billion people after his sorry ass!!!
I do think that Hong Kong is running in that 'free-market business climate' style, and quite well. I was also in Singapore, which is probably the #1 rated place in the world right now for these subjects that we're talking about.
Aloha from Kauai,
Killa
Bottom Line Agreement Here Would Seem to Be
Submitted by Comrade Jim on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 10:42am.
The goal of the The Party of China's one-party State is to create a wealthy China
and
The goal of Obama's would be one-party state of the US is to dissipate and disperse Americas wealth. *
*As Obama has said, The US is too wealthy compared to the rest of the world and we use too much of the world's resources. [He ignores, of course, the US's free market contribution to making the world much richer in food, medicine, transportation, labor saving machines,...] Obama's goal is equality in the US and equality in the world, not a free, wealthy US.
Constitutionalism
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 2:13pm.
........is extremist. We must shun a such nonsensical mindset.
I have to wonder
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 2:25pm.
I have to wonder just how the New York Times would have portrayed the "extremists" of the American Revolution?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Cobra
Submitted by Model850 on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 3:35pm.
Likely as bunch of gun-totin' rabble rousers too ignorant to understand all the "good" King George wanted to do for them.
No Doubt
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 3:42pm.
No doubt, especially the "kindness" of all those taxes that were imposed upon the Colonists, for their own good, of course.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Yeah, Cobra.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 4:01pm.
Can't you just imagine Friedman going ballistic over Tea Party-like talk such as;
Give me liberty or give me death.
Damn the torpedoes. Full speed ahead.
I regret that I have but one life to give for my country.
All men are created equal.
Throw in a really crazy nut like Winston Churchill who said all sorts of wild things, and Friedman would want to have the good Prime Minister committed. All his crazy talk did was help save the world.
What was that one-word answer
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 4:49pm.
What was that one-word answer that the American general gave the Germans when they demanded our surrender during the battle of the Bulge???.........'NUTS'???? That's what I think about the REGIME, the MSM, and the rest of the brainwashed masses.
That was the answer, Killa.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 5:12pm.
NUTS!
No explanation was needed after that.
I still love Reagan's answer when he was asked what our strategy toward the USSR was. He said, "we win, they lose." Kind of covered it.
Yeah..........and when Reagan
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 6:05pm.
Yeah..........and when Reagan said 'we win'...........he was talking about the USA. When Boy Barry said 'I won'..........he was talking about his own narcississic self (I don't think Soros-toro said 'we won', did he???)...........and he's been going downhill ever since - although he'd NEVER admit that it was HIS fault!!!
How the NYT would have covered the American Revolution
Submitted by ironchefofmunchies on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 4:09pm.
Clearly they were a bunch of gun-toting dangers to public safety.
They rebelled against the lawful authority (the king).
Their actions were hardest felt by the women and children they left behind in their rush to war.
They were no doubt religious extremists.
They violated international norms by establishing a novel form of government radically different than any other in the world at that time.
They did so without getting formal approval from the 18th Century equivalent of the U.N.
Shall I go on? Suffice to say, the New York Times would have been the King's Paper of Record.
How much money is the NYT
Submitted by jessieH on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 2:26pm.
How much money is the NYT going to lose if we pass a budget? How much is being paid to them for their lies? I remember when newsmen used to uncover the truth. Now, they help hide the truth. NYT= waste of trees.
Friedman is frustrated with
Submitted by buddyc on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 2:35pm.
Friedman is frustrated with his lack of relevance.
His ideas and views are more and more discredited.
Frankly he was one of big winds behind getting elected the worst President in my lifetime. For that Friedman is the one who should be AT BEST treated as a marginal extreme character not worthy of being listened to and AT WORST arrested and prosecuted for crimes against the people of the US.
When this country finally does tip over...
Submitted by Dave. on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 2:45pm.
...(and I see no way to avoid that now), and once the last remaining bunch of the members of the elite ruling class that did this to us have been hunted down, rounded up, and brought to justice, there will be one question remaining:
What are we going to do with stinking commie scum like Freidman?
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Friedman joins the chorus in the only song he knows
Submitted by Boil It Down on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 3:12pm.
When Friedman writes something like this, doesn't he realize how foolish and hypocritical he comes off? He illustrates himself as the ranting extremist in trying to paint the reasoning people as extreme.
Does he actually know better and is he only trying to mobilize the less intelligent readers to be reactionaries in his fight? Is he so terrified in his ignorance that he'd give up every ounce of his credibility rather than seeking out why his side keeps getting everything wrong?
It is just so difficult for me to imagine anyone being such a determined soldier of the left with the mountains of evidence that every crisis we face today can be traced back to their failures. Surrendering ones integrity that way is unthinkable to me.
In my lifetime, I have discarded my failures, admitted that I screwed up and used those lessons to adjust my directions. I didn't just dig in and double down on stupid. It's like their formal education convinced them they knew everything prevented them from learning anything further once they were handed the diploma. I suppose that means indoctrination rather than education.
Of course, all of this describes the majority of the liberal media and elitist crowds that surround them. These, the most influential people, are terrified of the Tea Party influence undermining their power. . -bidn-
Friedman
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 1:38am.
If he read Thomas Sowell, he *might* just get a brain cramp when the cognitive dissonance reaches tilt, but, that would require him to go outside of his echo chamber!
Ronald Reagan
Sowell v. Friedman debate
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 9:12am.
I'd love to see one of these. Friedman's arguments and so-called intellect would melt before our eyes.
He and Walter Williams have
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 7:38pm.
He and Walter Williams have *such* clarity of thought, it's amazing to me idiots like Friedman & Krugman are elevated and they aren't - I'd LOVE to see them debate!!!
When I'm in need of clearing the msm doublespeak, I listen to him here: http://fora.tv/2008/02/21/Uncommon_Knowledge_Thomas_Sowell
Ronald Reagan
A turtle race is extream to the left
Submitted by TerryWest on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 3:26pm.
I understand why the leftist media fret about extreme as I have witnessed their idea of progress and resolution is standing still or crawling in tight circles.
Akin to the Democrat party
Submitted by djm159 on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 3:25pm.
Akin to the Democrat party being led around by a amateurish, community-organizing Marxist. What's your point Friedman?
Here's my take
Submitted by ArrowSmith on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 4:27pm.
When lefties like Friedman throw out the perjoratives "extremist", "fascist", it's supposed to make Mrs. Suzie Soccer Mom go "ick, ewww those horrible extremist Republicans" and vote for Democrats. That's the idea.
Is there any concerted and coordinated media attacking Democrats as extreme? So swing voters only hear one narrative. Either they will be decent enough to see through the endless attacks, or they are too gullible and will fall for it. Next month's recall elections in Wisconsin will be the first test.
The day I trust Thomas Friedman on anything.............
Submitted by djwolf12 on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 7:31pm.
Is the day he doesn't resemble Matt Millen (architect of the 0-16 Detroit Lions). That will never happen, so I will never trust Thomas Freidman.
Enough is Enough!
Submitted by djwolf12 on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 5:54pm.
So basically if our Federal Government were telling the American People that it is mandatory to purchase a $2500 K-Car from the government, they are demanding we pay the government $7500 up front for it. Way to go Washington! You people are really showing the world how detached from reality you really are.
I watched Marco Rubio - all
Submitted by amyshulk on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 7:27pm.
I watched Marco Rubio - all 14 minutes - and I wanted more!!! He gets it, he has passion, he's where he needs to be, and most importantly, where WE need him to be!!!
Ronald Reagan
Well, amy...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 7:42pm.
Why do you think I've been saying for months--even when Obama's approval numbers and re-election prospects were much better-- that Rubio was the only one who really impressed me as a potential opponent of Obama.
That said, I listened to a long interview with Thaddeus McCotter [who is already a candidate] on C-Span earlier, and, talking about a silver-tongued orator, he is actually a better extemporaneous speaker than Rubio.
Jer
jer
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 12:25am.
I've seen Thad on Red Eye and I adore his dry wit. I agree he's silver tongued, and he has the art of speaking fast down pat, but I don't think his "style" would gel with the "surface voters" like Rubio's would.
That said, we peter principled Pres. Obama, I think the electorate won't make that mistake again!
Ronald Reagan
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Submitted by Jer on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 7:42pm.
oops...double post
See Friedman's 11,400 square foot home
Submitted by Red Jeep on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 10:04pm.
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/06/10/the-earth-is-full-of-hypocritical-e...
"...Thomas Friedman, porn-stached resident of a positively obscene 11,400 square foot suburban Maryland mega-monstro-mansion and husband to the heir of one of the largest shopping-mall chains in the world, reinventing himself as an oracle of anti-consumerist conservationism..." From Flat N All That http://www.nypress.com/article-19271-flat-n-all-that.html
I'd never read Thomas
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 12:29am.
I'd never read Thomas Friedman, but I saw him when he was hawking his book on Imus, and I was unimpressed. Seemed to me he didn't have any original thoughts, which he affirms with this dreck.
Ronald Reagan
Friedman is the "Expert Wannabe"
Submitted by Motormouth KOS on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 8:05am.
This jackass wants everybody to think he knows things about the world that nobody else does. He is a bore, a boor, and a bozo.
How can you believe anything he says when his head is so far up Barry's ass?
Just another limousine liberal.
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