New York Times Blames Conservative U.S. Bloggers for Oslo Massacre
It didn't take long for American media to blame this weekend's tragic shootings in Oslo, Norway, on our nation's conservatives.
The New York Times splashed it across its front page Monday with the headline "Killings Spotlight Anti-Muslim Thought in U.S.":
The man accused of the killing spree in Norway was deeply influenced by a small group of American bloggers and writers who have warned for years about the threat from Islam, lacing his 1,500-page manifesto with quotations from them, as well as copying multiple passages from the tract of the Unabomber.
In the document he posted online, Anders Behring Breivik, who is accused of bombing government buildings and killing scores of young people at a Labor Party camp, showed that he had closely followed the acrimonious American debate over Islam.
His manifesto, which denounced Norwegian politicians as failing to defend the country from Islamic influence, quoted Robert Spencer, who operates the Jihad Watch Web site, 64 times, and cited other Western writers who shared his view that Muslim immigrants pose a grave danger to Western culture.
Author Scott Shane then mentioned other prominent anti-terrorism websites such as Atlas Shrugs and Gates of Vienna, implying their complicity in this awful event.
Yet when a pair of homegrown terrorists were arrested in Seattle last month before a planned attack on a military facility, the Times chose not to inform readers that the duo were Muslim-converts and the ringleader idolized Osama bin Laden.
Now, roughly four weeks later, a sadly successful attack happened thousands of miles away, and the Times was more than happy to point fingers - prominently on its front page! - at American conservatives.
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Good points, Noel
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 9:30am.
The NY Times ought to do a little background on the impact of Muslims in Scandinavia and the Netherlands, and the anti-Muslim sentiment it has generated. If this murderer was radicalized, it didn't happen from reading the Unibomber's manifesto or Spencer's website; it was stimulated by the events around him.
You mean, it took them this long...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 9:32am.
...to figure out how to manipulate this tragedy to advance their own political agenda?
I kind of guessed they would have put something out over the weekend!
It was reported on Fox and Friends this morning that the purp was not a "Christian Fundamentalist" or even an extremist right winger (to be fair, he's not an extremist left winger either)
If you read his manifesto, you'll learn that he's actually a "European fundamentalist". But of course, all right-wingers are fundamentalists and therefore racist xenophobes, if you believe the media. It sort of feeds their circular logical patterns, doesn't it?
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
FNC interviewed someone
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 9:47am.
FNC interviewed someone earlier today who pointed out the guy wasn't overtly religious nor conservative but seemed to want a pre-20th century Europe. That FNC guest considered him a "European fundamentalist." You saw that interview? If so, do you happpen to recall that person's name?
But Atlas Shrugs is a pretty
Submitted by wiwf on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 9:35am.
But Atlas Shrugs is a pretty crazy blog. Why someone would agree with Geller's incessant rants is puzzling.
Wow, took them
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 9:40am.
three days to put in on US Conservatives. What a rag the NYT has become. I wouldn't dishonor my dog's poop using that paper to pick it with.
GOOD ONE
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 11:47am.
I think all copies of the NYT should be gathered up, recycled into new paper, and have bibles printed on them! at least the paper could be made useful!
I've heard from reliable sources
Submitted by scottyusmc on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 9:44am.
that George W. Bush purchased the ammo and assault rifle as part of the "Fast and Furious" sting operation awhile back, then stole an SR-71 (yes they are still flying in secret as "W's" personal ride) and delivered the material to him on the day prior to the attack. Lame Steam Media was fooled by Bachmann who faked a Migraine.
Thanks, Scotty!
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 10:14am.
I KNEW that Bush had something to do with this! I was just waiting for somebody to dig up the evidence.
Why didn't he attack a Mosk
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 9:47am.
Why didn't he attack a Mosk at Friday prayers.
How does killing over 90 BLOND WHITE children (his own people) fit in?
Just askin'
He was so crazed by websites which chronicled the Islamo-terrorist threat that he killed whites.
I honestly don't get it. Isn't that like the KKK lynching whites?
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
There. You nailed it. That is what was bothering me.
Submitted by Red Jeep on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 9:58am.
This article doesn't make sense from the first sentence: "The man accused of the killing spree in Norway was deeply influenced by a small group of American bloggers and writers who have warned for years about the threat from Islam..."
So the guy gets so mad he kills a bunch of white people?!?!?
I could not agree more, it is like the KKK getting so mad about blacks they go hang white people. Pretzel logic.
GMTA!
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 10:00am.
-Jon
At the same time too! 9:58.
Submitted by Red Jeep on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 10:08am.
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Worse even...
Submitted by packman on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 6:39pm.
the NYT would have us all believe that because someone writes in a blog here in the US, that causes someone to pick up an assault rifle in Norway and murder people. What? Dammit, as hard as I try, I just cannot think like these liberals. Pretzel logic indeed, more like a cornucopia of axons and dendrites. Round and round she goes and where she stops nobody knows. Oh, wait, that wasn't that Ted Mack's Original Amateur Hour? Hard to tell the difference between that and NYT.
"...Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread..." ~Thomas Jefferson
Indeed
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 9:58am.
That's one of the questions I had about this whole thing, why attack "his own kind" if he had anti-Islam feelings?
I wonder if his facebook site was hacked to express those "feelings" despite the fact that he might have been their country's Jared Loughner? Also, they are keeping him under lock and key, no public forum of any kind. Kinda convenient.
-Jon
He was targeting liberals
Submitted by deus_ex_machina on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 10:16am.
The connection between the youth camp shootings and the government office bombing in Oslo, is the progressive Norwegian Labour Party, which to his mind apparently, is to blame for multiculturalism and Muslim immigration.
"How does killing over 90
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 10:24am.
"How does killing over 90 BLOND WHITE children (his own people) fit in?"
The question bothers me too. However, I am reminded of another non sequitur: The loons of the “Hillsborough Baptist Church” who interject and disrupt fallen soldiers funerals because they hate queers. I’m not suggesting this as an answer or even as a psychological connection but just as food for thought.
- Grump
The only explanation
Submitted by Marsh on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 10:38am.
that makes sense in my mind is that he wanted to punish the people he thinks are in power and responsible for the immigration policy in Norway. Killing their children is the ultimate punishment.
I get how you could get
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 10:48am.
I get how you could get there..But if you think about it, that doesn't seriously make any psychological sense.
BUT, his stated ENEMY (we are told) is MUSLIMS.
If he killed a 100 Muslims it makes more psychological and tactical sense to me.
I assume he wanted to provoke a "backlash" from Islamic countries, and Muslim immigrants.
Again, he doesn't get that from killing his own people.
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
making sense
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 11:02am.
Using that line of thinking, it made more sense as to why Jared Loughner went after the Congresswoman Giffords than this does.
-Jon
That was one "powerful question" you raised, Jack.
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 11:09am.
Candidly, it's beyond my poor abilities to reason a way through it to reach an answer. (Short version: "It's above my paygrade.")
But, I do want to thank you for posing the question in the first place.
- Grump :o)
I can only hope that these crazy theories are alienating
Submitted by Lipton on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 9:49am.
an increasing percentage of the MSM audience. They seem to think that their audience is made up of half-wits. Really, how many people are going to buy this. of course the die-hard liberals that have exchanged their rationality for Hope and Change will buy this, but who else?
Liberal equivalent of “Reverse Engineering”
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 10:00am.
Once you start with the ignorant premise that all things Conservative or American are evil in nature, it’s easy to trace-back the root causes of every problem… and there is the added benefit of getting to proclaim yourself as “wise” for being able to get to the root cause.
The only problem [with using that formula] being that it’s a monstrous lie and it really does make you look foolish… and that’s not even to mention that it makes the user look like a “one note Johnny” - which tends to bore reasonable people when used so copiously.
Personally, I’m patiently waiting for the NYT’s to blame “The Fall of the Roman Empire” on American conservatives/bloggers.
- Grump :o)
Old Gray Skank
Submitted by AgentAmerican on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 10:04am.
Truly disgusting. I was waiting for Paul Shihtzu Krugman's take on it, but the vile New York Times beat him to it.
NYT
Submitted by NVRAT on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 10:23am.
Another NYT journalist(?) gone off the deep end. How come the guy did not kill a few Muslims if he was so deranged?
Mad as a hatter.
Submitted by wizardjr on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 11:12am.
The Treason Times is just as insane as the killer. They both live in alternate universes of their own construction.
And... they both to irrepairable harm to the people.
I blame the NYTimes and liberals for Oslo
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 11:30am.
Isn't it equally fair to say that THE NEW YORK TIMES AND LIBERALS are responsible for this nutjob?
Here's how.
1. Despite all evidence to the contrary, the LIBERAL MIND REFUSES TO ACCEPT that the dominant force behind international terrorism is ISLAMIC inspired radicals.
2. In addition to that, liberal newspapers such as the NEW YORK TIMES are mired in POLITICALLY CORRECT SPEAK. They seek to QUASH debate and silence opposition to their MULTI-CULTURAL AGENDA.
The result of these two agendas is:
A. An utter refusal to acknowledge and write about he threat posed by Islam to Liberal Western philosophy and political thought, and...
B. A never ceasing meme to demonize those who express their alarm at the spread of theocratic Islam, backed by an armed wing of global terrorism...
Which i leads to
3. Unstable people DRIVEN MAD by their inability to get a reasonable hearing. Not only that, they are insulted and mocked by the elites who reserve for themselves the right of deciding what is permitted in speech. Therefore unstable people feel forced to resort to extraordinary measures to be heard.
All because of arrogant LIBERAL ELITES, such as those in rags, like the NEW YORK TIMES.
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
Nicely Laid Out, Jack...
Submitted by packman on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 6:50pm.
That's the best chain of thought I've seen as to why this may have happened. Its a well-known fact that people's feelings and emotions will eventually boil over unless there is some outlet, or at least some acknowledgement of what they are feeling or experiencing. The MSM's continued refusal to even discuss these kinds of issues continually represses any kind of rational expression or discussion and after a while, people just blow their top. I know that's an over-simplistic model, but its high time the arrogant lamestream media start taking responsibility for some of the conditions they might have been instrumental in creating.
"...Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread..." ~Thomas Jefferson
cheers packman, nice of you
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Tue, 07/26/2011 - 7:07am.
cheers packman, nice of you to say.
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
I blame islam and its cult
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 11:32am.
I blame islam and its cult supporters.
This plays right into Janet's hand
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 11:39am.
This whole thing, which overall makes little sense with regards to the victims and the anti-Islam views, is playing right into Nappy Janet's hand when it comes to identifying white males as the criminals, especially after the recent video made public.
Now supposedly we are being told that this guy has been with a couple of terrorist cells that are anti-Islam, but we are to believe that more intended victims are the whites?? I haven't seen any mention about this guy being a nutcase, just a set of circumstances that's 180 degrees out of phase with each other.
They are trying real hard to make this a bigger boogyman than it really is. Don't get me wrong, this is bad, but to make it sound like some sort of insidious plot against Muslims doesn't quite match the picture, especially when it appears that the intended result is sympathy for Muslims even though they ARE the danger to the world.
Cue Twilight Zone music! (music)
-Jon
I tried to post this at the NYT
Submitted by haileyjb on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 11:51am.
I tried to post this at the NYT re: this story.... go figure... it didn't get published.....
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"Posters here that are blaming Spencer, Geller, Rush, Beck, Tea Party Members and Christians at large need to get a grip…….. OR admit the other side of this coin is also true. If we are to believe you that the “Right” has instigated this and should now be held accountable than you have to acknowledge the “Left’s” (NYT’S, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, Progressives, AL Sharpton and posters on this site) guilt in the killings of Amy Bishops victims, Jared L. Laughner’s victims and the countless other victims of Liberal/Progressive “hate speech” this would include every killing in Detroit (90% liberal). You have to hold that the Muslim faith and the Koran are guilty for the tens of thousands of victims that have been killed “for Allah”. It is impossible to suggest that the “Right” and “Christians” are in general, responsible for this and not admit the other. Otherwise YOU are using dead children for you own misguided and evil political gain."
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not sure if I said it well or made my point, hope NB readers understand.
It'll never make it. You're
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 12:08pm.
It'll never make it.
You're responding to people who are manic, and filled with hate.
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
I thought you point was well made..
Submitted by packman on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 6:51pm.
You just can't have it all one way. But I agree, they won't listen...otherwise they would no longer be liberals.
"...Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread..." ~Thomas Jefferson
Typical liberal
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 12:07pm.
Typical liberal hysteria...blame everyone else especially conservatives rather than blame the whacko who actually did it.
I am neither
Submitted by misterbee241 on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 12:29pm.
a prophet nor a prophet's son. But i saw this one coming, as i'm sure most conservative and Christians did,, from over the horizon. So how far away exactly, are the re-education camps and the ovens?
NYT is a dying paper, and
Submitted by Slyrr on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 12:31pm.
NYT is a dying paper, and like anyone who' s drowning, they're thrashing around looking for a life preserver. But like all liberals, they grasp onto anchors, thinking they can float.
Instead of appealing to mainstream Americans, the NYT doubles down on stupid and goes full bore for their shrinking, dwindling, hard-core liberal audience. So now it's conservatives - who are the majority audience in the country - who are 'to blame' for this. They did the same thing with the Tucson shootings. 'Oh yeah, it was some right-winger!'
Yeah, you do that NYT. You blame the only group of people who could save your dinosaur paper from extinction by insulting them and blaming them for all your problem and saying they're too stupid to understand your genius.
You're already losing money hand over fist and, like your liberal Democrat slave masters, hopelessly in debt with no hope of escape.
Soon you'll be on the dung heap of history where you belong, NYT. Good riddance.
So does this mean that
Submitted by rbosque on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 12:59pm.
So does this mean that eco-terrorists and Islamic terrorist's actions are the fault of the HuffPo or Kos idiots?
No,
Submitted by packman on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 6:54pm.
It simply means that everything is not the fault of conservatives, as liberals would have us believe.
"...Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread..." ~Thomas Jefferson
Make No Mistake
Submitted by Ashrak on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 2:05pm.
When a Citizenry is ARMED, nuts, be they muslim, anti muslim or of any other stripe, cannot go on shooting children, one by one, for well over an hour.
There is no way to prevent attacks of this nature,whatever their perpetrators massaged reasoning, at a 100% success rate. The only thing we can do 100% of the time is be prepared to fight back when they do take place.
This, it is past time to admit.
TV News helicopter over death island for I hour before police
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 2:16pm.
I've just heard that a Norwegian TV NEWS helicopter was hovering over the island for ONE HOUR before the police arrived.
BY BOAT.
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
The next jihadi attack
Submitted by jpwcpa on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 4:37pm.
I think we can all guess what approach the MSM will take the next time there is a mass murder perpetrated by an Islamic extremist. Of course they will make excuses and say that it was a perfectly understandable reaction to the completely undeserved accusations of the Oslo mass murder supposedly having been committed by a follower of the Religion of Peace.
Unabomber was radical leftist
Submitted by ChuckySchmucky on Tue, 07/26/2011 - 4:35pm.
"as well as copying multiple passages from the tract of the Unabomber."
The Unabomber was essentially Algore with a beard. And his views were not very different from the modern radical left.
Slimes completely cracked up today
Submitted by ChuckySchmucky on Tue, 07/26/2011 - 4:42pm.
The NY Slimes had a hilarious, foot-stomping, insane temper tantrum today on its editorial pages.
They are now flat out blaming the left's economic wreckage on Republicans. It became clear about a month ago that this would be their strategy.
About that time, it finally started to dawn on the Marxist perverts that the economy was not improving, was not going to improve and that Obama and the left would – correctly – be blamed for it.
That’s when the Marxists determined that their only chance for re-election was to blame Republicans. At that time, they started slow, merely planting the laughable seeds of suggesting Republicans were “risking slowing" the so-called "recovery" by not letting the radicals continue to spend recklessly. And it was entirely predictable that those suggestion would soon morph into a full-blown, outright blame. And slowly but surely, that's what they've done. A few weeks later, came the laughable phony "obstructionist" charges.
And now, here we are -- right on schedule! Flat out blaming everything on Republicans.
The demented left rarely disappoints.