Michael Steele Scolds Chris Matthews: You're Wrong - Ryan Plan Doesn't Kill Medicare
MSNBC's Chris Matthews has for weeks been dishonestly telling his viewers Congressman Paul Ryan's (R-Wisc.) budget proposal would kill Medicare.
On Wednesday's "Hardball," former Republican National Committee chair just-turned MSNBC contributor Michael Steele struck back (video follows with transcript and commentary):
MICHAEL STEELE, MSNBC: the bottom line is the Ryan plan is a step to get us into the discussion about what we need to do with what is a serious problem for the country. Now, as you go through this process, our presidential candidates, each of them will come out with their plan on how to deal with this. It may or may not be the Ryan plan or some variation.
CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Would you tell a candidate for Congress running this year for next year to sport Ryan plan and be for phasing out Medicare at the age of people above 65?
STEELE: But, see? But that’s the problem. This is not about phasing out Medicare. This is about reforming the system.
DAVID CORN, MOTHER JONES: No. No. No.
STEELE: Hold on, let me make this one point? Can I just make this one point and I will be quiet. Make this one point --
CORN: I bet you won’t. But go ahead.
STEELE: You are talking about eliminating Medicare and that is not what the Ryan plan does.What it does is it puts in, it puts in a premium support that was based on, based on what Bill Clinton himself did…
MATTHEWS: Basically it’s putting in a gift certificate that won’t cover healthcare.
STEELE: It’s not. It’s not. You’re wrong. You’re wrong.
MATTHEWS: Okay, thanks Michael. Michael Steele, Michael Steele for the defense.
As a little background, on April 3, Ryan went on "Fox News Sunday" to preview his budget to be released the following week. He presciently told host Chris Matthews, "They are going to demagogue us, and -- and it's that demagoguery that has always prevented political leaders in the past from actually trying to fix the problem. We can't keep kicking this can down the road."
Five days later, after Ryan's budget had been officially released, Newsweek's Evan Thomas said on PBS's "Inside Washington," "What I fear is going on here is the Democrats are just going to demagogue their way to reelection in 2012 for Obama because of what Ryan did, because of what we talked about. He did the brave thing with entitlements.The Democrats will now accuse the Republicans – it’s an old page in their playbook – will accuse the Republicans, accuse the Republicans of throwing Granny in the snow."
True to form, on the Monday following Thomas's prediction, Matthews told his "Hardball" viewers Ryan's plan "is going to kill half the people who watch this show."
And that was just the beginning, as Matthews ever since has routinely misinformed his viewers about this matter continually telling his audience falsehoods about the condition of Medicare and what the Wisconsin Congressman's proposal would do to it.
To try to combat the disinformation campaign, Ryan went on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" Tuesday and said, "There is a Medicare story to be told here -- the Medicare story that is being told here is the president and his party have decided to shamelessly distort and demagogue Medicare. So we're going to see a Mediscare reform campaign here."
Later that day, syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer told Fox News's Bill O'Reilly the media are actively supporting the Democrat lies about this plan.
Matthews is one of those press members Krauthammer was referring to, and unless there's someone like Steele on "Hardball" to counter the host's lies, viewers are going to be exposed to nothing but falsehoods about this issue.
Less than two weeks ago, a report from the Medicare Trustees said the nation's senior healthcare program will go bankrupt in 2024 if changes aren't made to it.
Ryan and the Republicans are trying to do something about that. Unfortunately, the Left and their media minions are doing everything in their power to prevent a solution from being enacted.
This is exactly what happened in 2005 when President Bush and his Party tried to reform Social Security only to be stonewalled by the Democrats and their supporters in the press.
How "journalism" has devolved to such a point that "news" outlet after "news" outlet can intentionally lie to the public in order to assist a sitting president and his Party should scare every American more than the threat of a terrorist attack or a deadly tornado.
Is entitlement reform possible in this country with the media we currently have, or will solutions only be allowed by these so-called "journalists" when Social Security and Medicare indeed go bankrupt?
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Well, I guess it's some kind of defense...
Submitted by Chris Norman on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 10:06am.
"STEELE: It’s not. It’s not. You’re wrong. You’re wrong."
While Steele was admirable in his defense of the Ryan plan, saying "it's not" and "you're wrong" aren't exactly death ray-like retorts that shut down the lies and demagoguery of your debate opponents. As for Steele becoming an MSNBC "contributor", it's kind of sad that he feels he needs to be on television so much that he signs up to be the lamb to slaughter for the liberal hyenas on MSNBC.
Steele's position is two fold
Submitted by Deskpilot on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 10:41am.
On one side, As a CONTRIBUTOR, he is being paid for the experience he had in a former position and to bring those experiences and arguments to discussions of issues. On the other, MSNBC gets to publicize that they are "Leaning [F]Toward," fair and balanced.
Juan Williams and Erick Erickson are doing the exact same thing.
So What?
Submitted by Chris Norman on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 2:05am.
Juan Williams is shown a lot more respect on Fox News than Steele will ever get on MSNBC.
Totally agree. That headline
Submitted by okie-pastor on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 11:00am.
Totally agree. That headline made me think "alright! Steele is going to give Chris a lesson on the Ryan plan!"
And what was this "scolding": "Your wrong" wow. Really?
Rush has a great point these politicians need to get out and accurately defend the Ryan Plan if not then articulate your own ideas
Instead of relying on talk radio and the blogosphere to do it for you!
What can you do with Al Jazeera?
Submitted by Slyrr on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 10:18am.
MSNBC is Al Jazeera based in New York. What can yo do with people like that?
Steele would never be allowed to explain how the Democrats are wrong. He'll be talked over, shouted down, insulted, called a racist, you know how it goes.
Palestine said Netanyahu's speech was a 'declaration of war'.
The Democrat media feels the same way about any GOP proposal.
Let The War Begin
Submitted by Utherpend on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 11:24am.
We need to take no prisoners and do what ever it takes to bury these slimey self serving SOB who think they are always right.
It's long overdue...
Submitted by adamsmith on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 11:37am.
that Fox News puts on a daily show similar to what Newsbusters does online. As the only newschannel that isn't left of center, we cannot compete with the other 98% of TV media to get any of the truth to the public. MSNBC would naturally be a big part of the programming. A host needs to point out the lies and distortions of what the Commie networks are disseminating. If they are named on this show, people would watch just to say Fox lies, as they already do....Paul Ryan is being dragged through the dirt and I don't see Boehner or any other Republican coming to his rescue. As with the Founders, we join and fight or we swing by the neck together. If the Republicans don't "nut up" we're looking at a Brave New World, and Obamalinsky's reelection.
be like mike..
Submitted by scarletandgold on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 10:35am.
you need to get tough mike..and denounce these parasites when they lie ..and they lie big..you took that job to be on the other side..let your light shine,,or you will just end up the msnbc whipping boy to matthews or maddow or special ed...lol is that what ur getting paid for over there?? its kick ass time ..
The Real Problem
Submitted by JustAl on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 10:47am.
Isn't that the Ryan plan kills Medicare. . . the real problem is that it doesn't and that the people at large are too used to the nanny state to realize that they are better off without it.
The government's role in healthcare is so central to it's mandate that the very first department formed after the Constitution was ratified was the Department of Taking Care of Everyone's Healthcare, right? \sarc.
The cost of healthcare rose exactly with the consumer price index until the government got involved. The only reason Carter is the worse living president is because LBJ is dead and His "O"lliness hasn't had a full four years yet, but the "Great Society" nonsense keeps dragging the country down by the nose.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/understanding_the_cause_of_hea.html
" Matthews is one of those
Submitted by ParalegalGoddess on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 11:08am.
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Matthews is one of those press members Krauthammer was referring to, and unless there's someone like Steele on "Hardball" to counter the host's lies, viewers are going to be exposed to nothing but falsehoods about this issue."
What you're missing here is that even if he does go on Spitball to refute this bs... Matthews will spit and spew and yell so much that the Steele can't possibly make his point." He'll die from drowning in the middle of that Chrissy fit. and my God in heaven the yelling.... unwatchable, unlistenable.
Actually
Submitted by jessieH on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 2:59pm.
the Democrats are killing it with their fraud, lies and corruption.
"Is entitlement reform
Submitted by amyshulk on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 10:47pm.
"Is entitlement reform possible in this country with the media we currently have, or will solutions only be allowed by these so-called "journalists" when Social Security and Medicare indeed go bankrupt?"
Since this argument has been going on at least since the 70's, we will either get another band aid or we will vote out all the big gov't types {from both sides} in '12 to pave the way for a real resolution.
That's why my focus is on congress - as O found out, having control of all 3 doesn't guarantee victory if you don't put those that agree in place first.
Ronald Reagan