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Ed Schultz Again Calls Republicans Liars Before Lying Himself

By Noel Sheppard | April 20, 2011 | 08:39

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For the second night in a row Tuesday, MSNBC's Ed Schultz called Republicans liars.

Also for the second night in a row, he did so moments before lying himself (video follows with transcript and commentary):

ED SCHULTZ: Republicans have been lying about tax cuts for years, but the new breed of conservatives, well, they have taken it to another level.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

REP. ERIC CANTOR (R-VIRGINIA): Congress doesn’t have a revenue problem. It has a spending problem.

REP. PAUL RYAN (R-WISCONSIN): We don't have a revenue or a tax problem in Washington. They're already high enough. We have a spending problem.

HOUSE SPEAKER JOHN BOEHNER (R-OHIO): We don't have a revenue problem. We have a spending problem.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SCHULTZ: Okay. You hear the Republican leadership there. Boehner, Cantor, and Ryan. You know what? They are completely wrong. Let's go to big Eddie’s chart. We have charts every night. You know, what I have to do is I got to get a Republican to come up here and tell me these charts are wrong.

Any time this buffoon wants someone on his program to prove him wrong, as Michael Jackson once sang, all he has to do is call and I’ll be there:

SCHULTZ: Bill Clinton’s first budget was the fiscal year '93-'94. Now pay attention here, folks. It's an easy one. Even I can follow it. The green line, well that's federal revenue and the red line of course is spending. So when Clinton got in office, holy smokes. Look at that. We were just spending way too much money. And so what did they do in '94? They raise taxes. Why? Because they didn't have enough revenue and they wanted to balance the budget. So they raised taxes right here and here comes the revenue. Here comes the revenue. There's the spending held in check by those tax-and-spend Democrats.

Not surprisingly, the guy that just seconds earlier said, “Republicans have been lying about tax cuts for years” claimed it was Democrats that held spending in check when Clinton was President.

I guess he forgot that Republicans took over Congress in 1995 and that they’re the ones that held Clinton's spending in check for six of his eight years.

But that was just the beginning of Schultz's falsehoods expressed in this opening segment:

SCHULTZ: So look what happened. We have a cross right here in about '97-'98. All of a sudden the revenue goes above the spending and the spending stays below. Well here comes President Bush. President Bush comes in here in the year 2000 and look at this. He says, “You know what? We got too much money going into the Treasury. It's your money.” Remember, they used to go on the campaign trail and say, “It's your money. We want to give it back to you.” So they get this right here. 2000. Here come the tax cuts.

Honestly, is this man such an idiot that he doesn’t know Clinton was still president in 2000 and Bush wasn’t inaugurated until the following year? Or that the first Bush tax cuts were also implemented in 2001?

Exactly what credibility does this guy have when he can’t remember who was president ten and eleven years ago?

But there’s still more…a lot more:

SCHULTZ: Here come the tax cuts right here, and what do we have right after 9/11 and right after the tax cuts? We have a dip in revenue but look at this. The spending keeps going up because you know we had to fight them over there instead fight them of over here and of course this stuff, the wars, that was off budget. In fact, we were told by the vice president, “The deficits don't matter.” Remember that? Deficits didn't matter. That's what we were told by the last guys in charge. While the revenue went down the spending continued to go up.

And then of course, here is the re-election, and of course we were told right here, “Well, if we don't re-elect this crowd we're going to get hit again.” Hmm. So then we keep on going through the Bush years and the revenue starts to come back a little bit but the spending just keeps going. Where was Cantor? Where was Boehner? Where was Ryan when this spending was going through the roof? Well, the guys that they were genuflecting to said the deficits didn't matter.
So here comes President Obama. President Obama comes in in 2008.

2008? No, actually, Obama was inaugurated in 2009.

Shouldn’t a political commentator on a major news network know that presidents are elected in even years and start their terms in odd years?

If this was Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) or former Alaska governor Sarah Palin making these kinds of mistakes on national television, Schultz and all of his colleagues on this joke of a “news” network would be calling the guilty party an idiot that doesn’t understand the basics of our political system or recent American history.

But there’s still more…a lot more:

SCHULTZ: Here is the housing bubble. This is the housing bubble right here. Oh, man. We're selling homes like crazy. Aren't we? We're doing all these quick mortgages and what not and here comes the revenue and then boom. There is the housing bust.

Notice how Schultz talked about the housing boom and how it drove tax revenues up, but he neglected to address the stock bubble during the Clinton years and how that also caused tax receipts to dramatically increase.

In his mind - such as it is - the '90s expansion was exclusively caused by higher taxes. One of the biggest technological booms and stock market bubbles in American history had absolutely nothing to do with that recovery or the subsequent rise in tax receipts.

And this guy has his own show on national television wherein he gets to relay such nonsense to the public without any challenge.

Making matters worse, Schultz also didn’t mention how much the decline in revenues when Bush became President – in 2001 NOT 2000, by the way! – was impacted by the bursting of the tech stock bubble – a bubble that popped under Clinton.

The resulting recession and associated decline in tax receipts was not mentioned as leaving a mess for Bush to attend to, but of course, everything Obama faced despite him having been part of the majority in Congress for the previous four years was all his predecessor’s fault:

SCHULTZ: And of course here we sit, President Obama, he comes in and the revenue is dipping down because of what he inherited and what's he do? He spends money to get out of it because every economist on both sides of the aisle said you got to spend money to get out of this problem.

Every economist on both sides of the aisle said we have to spend money to get out of that problem? This might be Schultz's biggest lie of the night!

Conservative economists across the fruited plain were saying back then that Obama should cut taxes to solve the crisis not raise spending. In fact, when Obama first met with Republican leaders after he was inaugurated, they strongly suggested that tax cuts be the primary focus of any recovery plan he proposed.

His answer was, “I won.”

But there was still more:

SCHULTZ: So now if you look at this, we have the largest gap between money spent and revenue being brought into the Treasury. The largest gap we've had, well, actually my board's not big enough. Can you believe that? I actually could take you back another 20 years. This is the largest gap. But remember, the Republicans are telling us that we don't have a revenue problem. This is where the American people are way ahead of the Congress. The American people see this graph and they know exactly how to fix it, and that's raise taxes. President Obama’s right in line. He has a plan to solve our revenue problem. It's called taxing the wealthy.

The dishonesty on display here was disturbing to say the least.

Nowhere did Schultz inform his viewers that the main reason for this "largest gap" was a $1.1 trillion increase in spending after the Democrats - including Obama - took over Congress.

By the way, that would be 2007 and not 2006.

Although tax receipts did indeed plummet by $464 billion from 2007 to 2009, by far the bulk of our current deficit was cause by the $1.1 trillion increase in spending that began when Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Harry Reid (D-Nev.) took the legislative reins. Schultz not informing his viewers of this was media malpractice at its worst.

But potentially Schultz's largest transgression was telling his viewers that our whole budget problem can be solved by raising taxes on the so-called rich.

We currently have a $1.65 trillion deficit. The budget Obama proposed in February produces close to $1 trillion shortfalls every year for the next ten.

As NewsBusters reported last August, the liberal think tank the Brookings Institution claimed the annual cost of the Bush tax cuts on the so-called rich is $67.9 billion. If these cuts were eliminated as Obama and Schultz want, the reduction to our annual budget deficits would be negligible. 

According to the Congressional Budget Office, Obama's February budget proposal will add $9.5 trillion to the federal debt. If the Bush tax cuts on the so-called rich were repealed, assuming no negative impact on the economy, we'd still run deficits totaling $8.8 trillion in the next ten years.

That anyone would see this as a solution to our budget problems - let alone go on national television and make such a claim - is deplorable.

Taking this a step further, the Internal Revenue Service recently released 2009 tax return figures that completely destroy the argument that our budget woes can be solved merely by raising taxes on the rich.

As NewsBusters affiliate CNS News reported Monday, you could take every penny of income from folks making $500,000 or more and we'd still have an $839 billion budget deficit.

The Wall Street Journal took its analysis of IRS data a step further Monday concluding that even confiscating all the income from folks making $114,000 or more wouldn't balance our budget.

What this means is the spending explosion we've seen in the past four years can't possibly be solved by tax hikes alone, and any suggestion of that is completely dishonest and irresponsible for a so-called journalist.

MSNBC at this point is owned by two very large American corporations - Comcast and General Electric. Certainly, the people atop these companies have to be aware of the dire straits facing our nation, and that tax increases by themselves will not come close to righting this ship.

At this point in time, it is a matter of national preservation that the citizenry be properly informed of what faces them. It is therefore incumbent upon Comcast and GE - leaders in the communications industry - to put pressure on their news divisions to assure that accurate information is being disseminated to the public.

Failing this, there is absolutely no way lawmakers will be able to address this crisis before it passes a dangerous tipping point.

The move by Standard & Poor's Monday to put our nation's credit rating on a negative outlook should make all of our corporate leaders recognize the urgency.

If officials at Comcast and GE don't share that concern, one has to seriously wonder what's going to have to happen for them to wake up and notice there's a tsunami heading our way and it's their duty to alert the citizens they serve before they're swept out to sea.

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So where did Schatzy

Submitted by hbnolikeee on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 8:53am.

get his degree in Economics? Perhaps he obtained his doctorate in economics from the Howdy Doody School of Economics.

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I hate to say this but

Submitted by kg on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 9:19am.

I hate to say this but Schultz is as ignorant as he looks.

 

"DumbAssity of Dope"

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A moron AND a liar.

Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 10:12am.

A moron AND a liar.

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CORRECTION

Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 10:11am.

The Howdy Doody CORRESPONDENCE School of Economics

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Ed Schultz Got His Degree in Economics

Submitted by Comrade Jim on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 10:49am.

In the mail from the Obama New School of Economics in Nairobi, Kenya. Send me $100 and and I can arrange for you to get one too. For another $50 you can get an authentic, original, genuine, reproduction of a copy of an autographed photo-shopped picture of Karl Marx pasted on the back of your diploma. An additional $10 gets you an authentic autographed picture of the president of the university George Obama (Barry Obama's brother) currently living in a hut in Kenya.

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along with a letter that said...

Submitted by almostacowboy on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 12:11pm.

"I am David Wood the Bank Manager of CITIBANK 332 Oxford Street, London W1N 9AA. I have urgent and very confidential business proposition for you. On June 6, 1997, an Iraqi Foreign Oil consultant/contractor with the BRITISH PETROLUEM CORPORATION MR. HAFFEZ AL SADIQUE. Made a numbered time (Fixed deposit) for 36 calendar months, valued at US$29,500,000.00 (Twenty Nine Million Five hundred Thousand Dollars only)........."

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You Are Absolutely Correct!

Submitted by Bourbeau on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 8:57am.

Mr. Schultz is a buffoon, absolutely no question. However, it begs a question. If we believe he is a buffoon, and I doubt you'd find much argument her, why the hell does anyone care what this buffonn says. Is it that important that we chronicle every morsel of nonsense he spews? I think no; for someone who captures a few hundred thousand hard line liberals a night, why even bother - nobody cares about anything he says. We have better things to highlight then this moron.

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Reminder

Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 9:03am.

They report of big dumb Ed because he is part of the libtard media. And this is what NB's does exclusively. If they ignored the super stupid, we wouldnt have anything to laugh about.

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The problem with Schultz is

Submitted by Scuba Dude on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 8:58am.

The problem with Schultz is that he has Schultz for brains. Seriously, big Eddies charts? Isn't that special, Speshul Ed is a BIG boy!!! Yes he is!!!!

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
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They have to get a

Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 10:13am.

They have to get a professional to make Ed's charts since the charts Ed creates are with crayons.

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A tactic of the left is to

Submitted by Semus on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 9:16am.

A tactic of the left is to accuse the opposition of exactly what you're doing, it's effective with some who have short attention spans. But I think for it to work you have to have the two actions separated by some time, the doing of the deed and the accusation of doing of the deed, that is. After all someone might remember this and put two and two together. I guess Schultz doesn't think that's necessary.


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I tried to listen, but had to turn it off.

Submitted by Red Jeep on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 9:24am.

All I hear is a blowhard who thinks he's the Rush Limbaugh of the left but is too stupid to realize how dumb he is.

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Maybe as conservatives its

Submitted by wahappened on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 10:04am.

Maybe as conservatives its time we come at this foolishness from a different direction. Maybe we should push for an effort to actually confiscate all of GE's profits in the name of saving the country, and drive these economic idiots out of the woodwork.

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Speaking of "dumb"...

Submitted by iveseenitall on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 10:15am.

It's one idiot after another on the left. Obama just tapped Al to lead immigration "reform" . Yes--that Al. Al of the Korean shop burnings in N.Y. . Al of the Twanna case. Al with the eighth grade education who can't put two grammatically correct sentences together. Yes, that Al. [NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal" (progressive)]

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Hey Mr. Ed!

Submitted by telecaster on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 10:25am.

So you're calling Republicans liars huh? Well, I'm a Republican. So I guess that means you're calling me a liar does it not? Just fair warning there big mouth, pudge boy.....you got a broken nose in your future......... and that aint no lie.

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I nominate you, Noel

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 10:26am.

SCHULTZ: Okay. You hear the Republican leadership there. Boehner, Cantor, and Ryan. You know what? They are completely wrong. Let's go to big Eddie’s chart. We have charts every night. You know, what I have to do is I got to get a Republican to come up here and tell me these charts are wrong.

From the update in your piece yesterday, regarding this economic illiterate:

 

*****Update: NBer DonShock accurately notes in the comments section that despite Schultz's chart saying "In $ Billions," he must have meant as a percentage of GDP.

Let's analyze that. First off, even "In $ Billions" is wrong. It should have read "In $ 100 Billions." However, if the y-axis was correctly labeled "Percent of GDP," it would have proven the point that tax cuts spur the economy.

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As such, despite the impacts of 9/11, a collapsing stock market and the resulting recession, GDP grew in gross dollars by 40 percent in the seven years after the first Bush tax cuts. As tax revenues also grew during this period, the reason why their percentage of GDP dropped was due to GDP rising faster than receipts.

Since the goal of tax cuts is to grow the economy, it's clear they accomplished their goal.

Game, set, and match, to Noel.

 

 

 

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Ed who? Really does anyone

Submitted by Davart on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 11:21am.

Ed who? Really does anyone watch his show aside from those paid to do it?

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Noel - on the "Tax Rebates of 2001"

Submitted by Gary Hall on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 1:43pm.

  • that the first Bush tax cuts were also implemented in 2001?

Effectively, the only "tax-cut" related revenue loss that would bring down the little budget surplus for fiscal year 2001 down, would have been that which was "on the books" in the late summer -early fall - The 2001 tax rebates.

Hmm. Bush was pushing for long term stimulus from tax relief (bracket cuts for all, marriage penalty cuts, dividend and capital gains tax cuts, child credit increases) -- so who was the guiding force for the "tax rebates?"

Senator's Tom Daschle, Liebermann, and Rep. Dennis Kucinich. Yes - these Democrats side saw the damage that was being done to every day average workers in the country from the collapse of Clinton's dot.com bubble (March, 2000) and put a $40 billion "tax rebate" in Bush's long term stimulus plan.

The checks were mailed out, that fall.

Almost instantly, the radical left (not being aware of what is what) started organizing all across America to have folks either return their "stinking" rebate checks, or to sign them over to local schools. You see - the charges were already out there that Bush had slashed funding for education (actually, he increased it dramatically).

The Clintonesque inherited recession and the fallout  from 9/11 set the stage for a long hard recovery, and in no time liberal congressional folks had changed hats - were blaming it all on Bush; were claiming that "his" tax rebates" failed, and the national MSM was all too quick to jump on that lying bandwagon.

(;~/ gary

Ref:

February 12, 2001  
On taxes, even as Democratic leaders sought to build a consensus behind an alterative tax cut, the Congressional Progressive Caucus--a band of liberal Democrats chaired by Kucinich--came out with its own plan to provide a $300 rebate to every man, woman and child in America.

March 27, 2001 Lieberman, Daschle Unveil Tax Rebate Bill To Help Jumpstart EconomyEvery American taxpayer would receive $300 “prosperity dividend

March 29, 2000 Presidential Press Conference 
Question at Press conference:

  • John ?  Mr. President, new figures out today show that the economy grew at an annual rate of one percent for the last three months of the year 2000.  My question to you, sir, is, what are you prepared to do to immediately stimulate the economy?  Because it would appear that your long-term tax package does not do it, yet you dismiss out of hand attempts from the Hill to give back a rebate of some $60 billion this year unless it's tied to longer-term tax relief. 

Bush Is Now Sold on Pitch for Immediate Tax Relief - EDWIN CHEN & JANET HOOK, (LA Times) March 28, 2001:

  • Senate Democrats have argued for an immediate lump sum rebate. At a news conference Tuesday, Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota proposed a onetime tax rebate of $300 per taxpayer in 2001. Daschle estimated that if the bill were passed in April, people would begin to receive rebate checks from the Treasury in July......... who in recent days have pushed for an immediate $60-billion tax cut.


March 28, 2001 - Daschle Proposes Immediate Tax Relief for All Americans:

  • Relief Is Refund Check and Rate Reduction. Daschle to GOP: “Let’s Get This Done Now”

OK, now sit down. Liquids away from the keyboard.

And now since Daschle got his rebate pushed thru.....

Daschlenomics: Tax Rebates Made the Recession Worse
January 18, 2002

  • On January 4, Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle said President Bush's tax relief plan "probably made the recession worse."

Oh go figure?

Later, the obvious was all too obvious:

Oct. 26, 2003 Sen. Jon Corzine, D-N.J., acknowledged on Sunday that President Bush's tax cuts gave the economy a boost.

Schultz?

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Ed's charts

Submitted by Model850 on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 3:42pm.

Ed said "We have charts every night." Anybody know how long Ed has been showing charts (I've never watched so I don't know)?

I ask because I wonder if his charts are some manifestation of "Beck envy." He sees Beck is really popular (but I never watched him, either) and Beck has his blackboards. Did Eddie think, "Hmmm. That's what I need to be popular like Glen. Visual aids!"

Maybe he forgot he should also have actual facts?

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When "Speshul Ed" was first

Submitted by Beukeboom on Thu, 04/21/2011 - 9:55am.

When "Speshul Ed" was first approached with the idea, he thought "visual aids" was a sexually transmitted disease.

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Libs have a lot of problems like that

Submitted by Quasi-socialist on Thu, 04/21/2011 - 12:07pm.

I remember when it was popular to say that Reagan started funding the development of AIDS in 1980, until it was explained to them that Carter was still president--then AIDS couldn't have possibly have been "developed" then.

I also remember that he supposedly ramped up the Iran-Iraq war in 1980.

It's like Rush says, liberalism is about feeling something. If you feel you're right, and you feel like screaming it--then it's only right that you scream it. You don't review...

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