Fineman To Olbermann: Democrats Said of Tax Plan 'F the President,' 'No F-ing Way,' 'He F-ed It Up'
Roll Call reported Thursday that during a heated meeting of House Democrats to discuss Barack Obama's tax compromise plan, an unknown member was heard saying, "F--k the President."
According to Howard Fineman, appearing on MSNBC's "Countdown," that was not the sole F-word expressed in disgust for the President at this contentious gathering (video follows with transcript and commentary):
KEITH OLBERMANN, HOST: In Nancy Pelosi’s last month as Speaker, and the last month of Democrat control of the House of Representatives, Democrats stood up against Republicans and against the President. Our fifth story tonight, after a rowdy, dramatic, closed door meeting of House Democrats in almost total unison on this issue, the Speaker of the House says the President's tax plan will not get a vote in the House without changes, or as one unidentified Democratic member of Congress put it, according to the newspaper Roll Call, quote, "F the President,” unquote.
After discussing the state of the plan with Massachusetts Democrat Barney Frank, Olbermann brought in Fineman:
OLBERMANN: Let's turn to MSNBC political analyst Howard Fineman, also senior political editor of the Huffington Post. Good evening, Howard.
HOWARD FINEMAN, THE HUFFINGTON POST: Hi, Keith.
OLBERMANN: This has been an extraordinary week in this debate between these two parts of the Democratic Party. But this quote, “F the President?” Kind of strong. What can you tell us about the, the, the Democratic revolt in the House this morning?
FINEMAN: Well, like Barney Frank, I wasn't there either, but I did talk to a lot of people who were, and it was pretty startling. There was, there was sotto voce apparently, you know, not too loud, an "F the President.” There was a, there was a “No f-ing way.” There was a “He F-ed it up.” You know, we had a fairly liberal use of the F-word inside those closed doors, and there was a lot of anger. And, and, and frankly the President's appearance before this same group of people yesterday, when he tried to explain his side of things, didn't help. As a matter of fact, it just made things worse is my understanding of it. One member I talked to said if this is the way he's going to negotiate with the Republicans, what's he going to do with the Iranians, you know?
One can anticipate Rush Limbaugh on Friday sarcastically accusing those uttering these vulgarities of being racist - for any criticism of the President has to be because he's black - and MSNBC"s Ed Schultz as well as the Rev. Al Sharpton taking him seriously.
That's certainly what Fineman and Olbermann would have said if this was a meeting of Republican House members and such language was used in reference to Obama.
It also seems likely that if Olbermann wasn't so angered by what Obama put on the table concerning the Bush tax cuts two days ago, these Democrat obscenities would not have been discussed on "Countdown" unless they were directed at a Republican, especially if it was Sarah Palin.
But Olbermann, much like his colleague Rachel Maddow, feels betrayed by the current White House resident, and he's working overtime to prove it.
So peeved is he that he later in the show brought on the president of the machinists' union, a former Hillary Clinton supporter who explained why nobody should be surprised by Obama's behavior since Inauguration Day:
The buyer's remorse on display would bring a tear to your eye if it wasn't so funny.
I expected MSNBC would become a much more enjoyable network to watch after the Republican victory on November 2, but I never thought it would be this entertaining.
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"You know, we had a fairly
Submitted by Chris Norman on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 12:42am.
"You know, we had a fairly liberal use of the F-word inside those closed doors, and there was a lot of anger." Sounds like just another night here at NB from a few of our - er - more colorful - commenters. :)Racism clearly at play here
Submitted by krendler on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 12:40am.
I think it's pretty obvious. Why else would these Democrats be opposing the president so strongly, with so much anger and hatred?
Jesse. Al. Keith. Chris. Janene. Donna. Roland: Where are you? What's taking you so long to put the race card in play.
Can we do a "Then and now" thread....?
Submitted by NeoKong on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 12:50am.
I seem to remember that a certain host or two on a certain network did not take it too kindly when someone (Joe Wilson) showed such blatant disrespect for the President.
Watch here.
LOL! I was just thinking the
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 12:56am.
LOL! I was just thinking the same thing :)
They would NEVER say "F-THE
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 12:51am.
They would NEVER say "F-THE PRESIDENT" if the President wasn't black. This is how all these 'good-ol-boy' democrats operate. Behind closed doors they are the true bigots. I cannot believe they are treating the Presidency with this disrespect.
Remember the hypocritical outcry and shouts of "RACISM!" when a Republican senator simply said "liar"?
Where is Al Sharpton when you need him?
Submitted by needle on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 12:59am.
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.
Just Think...
Submitted by Obatimized on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 1:00am.
"F The President!"
Just think if someone shouted: "You Lie!"
This would be on page one of the Slime
Remember, Obama's brother still lives in a hut.
Obatimized...that is the MSM bias reality here..
Submitted by Gary Hall on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 1:40am.
it's not just someone, however, it's what if a Republican or a Tea Party member said "you lie," or "that's not true," (SC Justice Alito).
Indeed, we all understand that had a conservative breathed out any of those "F" word attacks on President Obama, all hell would have already broken out in the national MSM - and it would continue for the next two years - then, it would be a part of the MSM's daily rants against the R's in the 2012 election cycle... and so on.
This will not be in the national news.
(;~/ gary
Sounds like radical
Submitted by TerryWest on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 1:15am.
Sounds like radical extremist to me, home land security needs to send out a warning memo, these people will be leaving for home and in the public soon
This might be the first time
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 1:21am.
This might be the first time I actually AGREE with these guys..........but for totally OPPOSITE reasons. But, yeah............F the President!!!! These loony leftists are finally figuring out that Boy Blunder doesn't care any more about them than he does about Republicans!!! It's ALL about him!!!
And..........'if he's going to negotiate with Republicans, what's he going to do with the Iranians'?? As far as I can tell...........the Kenyan Kreep hasn't done a damn thing with regards to the Iranians, or the North Koreans, or the Venezualans, or............jeez..........keep filling in the blanks!!! Maybe you can count 'voting present' as some kind of action????
I get a certain amount of jaded comeuppance when I see the likes of these delusional clowns freaking out about the guy that they helped to put in office.............they were so stupid that they couldn't even see what kind of guy Soetoro Hussein was..............
What noble and eloquent words
Submitted by Chris Norman on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 1:23am.
What noble and eloquent words for future history books. Right up there with the letters between Washington and Jefferson.
Wimps
Submitted by Dan Diego on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 1:26am.
Dick Cheney had the stones to say things face-to-face, not these wimps.The Democrats are racists for
Submitted by Van Halen on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 1:31am.
The Democrats are racists for using the F word around Obama.
Clearly the Democrats are trying to take us back to the Civil War days.
The Democrats are the party that wears the white sheets.
Democrats hate blacks, Jews, gays and women. When have they done anything to advance any of those groups. Today they went after Obama like a lynch mob. Hardly done with abusing a black man, they turned on the homosexuals and threw them under the bus after lying to them that they would support the repeal of DADT. Then they attacked Palin, an American citizen and a woman. Yesterday, Democrat writers in Liberal publications asked people not to help Israel while it fought forest fires.
When will the Democrats start burning crosses again in honor of KKK Kleagle Robert C. Byrd?
This isn't surprising,
Submitted by malthus on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 1:32am.
dRTAS have always exhibited a lack of self control. After all, Barry is messing with their money.
Napoleon's famous maxim comes to mind:
Submitted by daveinboca on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 1:44am.
When your enemy is busy destroying himself, it's always best not to interfere in the process...!
This the perfect story that shows the main stream media bias
Submitted by bohratom on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 2:30am.
The subject says it all, had this been a conservative it would probably have been the top story on Nbc, Abc, Cbs and the rest of the mainstream media. But since its just a liberal, the majority ignore it. Just imagine if this was say 1988 and a conservative said this about President Bush, you bet it would be top story for the entire Broadcast news.
"You Lie"
Submitted by OxyCon on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 3:46am.
Remember how wee-weed up the Democrats and the Democrat-media-complex got when Joe Wilson dared to say "You lie" to Obama in the House chamber?
If they were consistent and not a bunch of hypocrites, they'd be really upset at all the Democrat congressmen f-bombing the President on the House floor.
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Resolution criticizing Wilson passes, on mostly partisan voteWASHINGTON (CNN) - The House of Representatives on Tuesday formally admonished Republican Rep. Joe Wilson for shouting "you lie" during President Barack Obama's speech to a joint session of Congress last week.
The House passed a resolution of disapproval on a 240-179 vote that was mostly along party lines, reflecting the Democratic majority in the chamber.
Five representatives voted "present."
According to the Office of the House Historian, it was the first time in its 220-year history that the House has disciplined a member for speaking out during a presidential speech in the chamber to a joint session of Congress.
What is a Republican?
Submitted by boboberg on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 6:05am.
What is a Republican? A Republican is a person who hates the middle class, the poor, minorities and all immigrants. The Republicans want the entire population to be homeless, powerless and without medical insurance. The new big Republican project is to kick public school teachers out of the middle class and leave them destitute. The Republicans are seething at the amount of power the teachers' unions are exerting and they won't be happy until the unions have been destroyed. When is America going to wise up to the Republicans? We should be fighting them in the streets, not compromising with them. Mark Montgomery NYC, NY boboberg@nyc.rr.combobo returns!!
Submitted by sentry_99 on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 6:25am.
Thanks for stopping by to do the regular hit and run troll post. See you again in a few weeks.
PS. You've been a busy little troll posting this same bile all over. Here. Here. Greatest hits here.
Wow, that might be the most infantile post I ever read here
Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 9:19am.
BTW, you left off your home phone number.
Bozo says "We should be
Submitted by ThisnThat on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 9:34am.
Bozo says "We should be fighting them [Republicans] in the streets"
Ok, let's go fight the Republicans in the streets, shall we? How about if we start here. Please identify the Republicans so I can target them, will you? Pick out the most dangerous ones first so they can be eliminated quickly and be prevented from mounting a counter-attack.
Bozo
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“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
Yeah!
Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 9:48am.
Then we can move to this bunch of racists
That was a trick. I didn't
Submitted by Cowboy on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 5:08pm.
That was a trick. I didn't see one hammer-and-sickle sign there, not one Mao sign, not one ACORN sign and not one Che' t-shirt on anybody. They're ALL Republicans, right?
So, comrade Bob, they let you out every 6 weeks, eh?
Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 9:50am.
Well, thanks for stopping by.
I's always good for us real Americans to be reminded of the idiot lefty lunacy we are up against.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
And we have a live one here.
Submitted by bassndude on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 10:28am.
And we have a live one here. Tree hugger? Kool ade drinker? One that would belive a democrat telling him to wait in his/her room on the Titanic while they go for help, and ignore a Republican and call him/her a lier when told that the ship is sinking.
Thats it lib. Go down with the ship.....
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
Make my day
Submitted by Tomorama on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 10:56am.
bobo, to remain on topic F YOU.
Nothing like a keyboard warrior to get the ol' blood flowin'.
Problem with your rational nitwit, REPUBLICANS LIKE GUNS and like me, I am a marksmen shot thanks to the military that pussies like you despise.
Yes genius, you would need a CORPSE MAN
bobo....
Submitted by texasborngranny on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 12:02pm.
if you really believe the drivel you posted, you should consider voluntary commitment.
It simply isn't possible for anyone to be this deliusional and not legaly insane.
BTJM
... or be Nancy Pelosi
Submitted by Cowboy on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 4:57pm.
... or be Nancy Pelosi or an MSNBC personality
Jeez, guys......I don't know
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 1:14pm.
Jeez, guys......I don't know why you are all over-reacting so much!!! I think ol' Bozo actually left out a bunch of our hateful and evil traits - like hating clean air and clean water, and worshipping at the alter of Big Oil, Big Pharma, Big Insurance, Big Corporations (although we DON'T worship at the alter of the REAL God - Big Government)................and, of course, we hate anybody who does not look or act or think like we do, since we are so easy to classify. Hell, I'm sitting here thinking of ALL of the things that I hate when I wake up every day.............I'm filled with hate!!! And bile!! And vitriol!!! My soul is poisened by all of the hate I feel from being a freedom-loving, responsible, patriotic, get-the-hell-out-of-my-face American!!! In fact, I'm stewing and seething so much right now that I'm liable to get out one of my guns and go find a homosexual minority tree-hugger snot-nosed Democrat lib..................and blow his brains out!!!!! And then I'll throw his useless body into the river so that it can pollute it..........and then I'll go drive around for a couple hours so that I can make a huge 'carbon footprint', before I finally pull into McDonalds for a high calorie/low health meal!!!!
Delusional morons...........
Middle class, minority,
Submitted by Cowboy on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 4:53pm.
Middle class, minority, union-card-carrying Republicans who send their kids to public schools take issue with your description...
But I DO suddenly have a craving for a quarter-pounder with cheese and a mess o' fries... Without having to get an exclusion from ObamaCare... Or a note from Michelle...
'Rats
Submitted by kiwikit on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 6:54am.
The party with no class! Too stupid to think of any appropriate word so they constantly fall into crudity.
I guess this makes the Libs
Submitted by inquiringmind on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 9:39am.
I guess this makes the Libs the party of " No F%$#ing Way. "
good one
Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 9:49am.
good one
THE MUST-HAVE INTERVIEW: Kendrick Meek
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 9:50am.
Democrat Kendrick Meek represents Florida's 17th District. You may recall that he was the Democratic nominee for the US Senate seat won by Republican Marco Rubio; former Republican Charlie Crist came in second, and Meek came in third.
In the heat of the campaign, white Democrats - including former Congressman Robert Wexler and Democratic-dandy Robert F. Kennedy Jr. -- began abandoning Meek prior to Election Day and endorsing Crist in a desperate effort to stop Rubio, and they urged others to do the same. They also stopped pumping money into Meek's campaign. The MSM barely noticed that this blatant Party treason on the part of white Dems was undermining one of the few black Democrats running for the Senate. (The Party wasn't very supportive of their nominee in South Carolina either. In fact, they and the MSM hardly covered the embarassing Alvin Greene, save for a brief mention about his indictment on pornography charges.)
I guarantee you that Rep. Meek noticed.
Then this week, the angry Democratic Caucus met behind closed doors to determine their response to the President's compromise, and reportedly sprinkled profanity quite liberally (no pun intended). I don't know if Meek was there, but even if he wasn't, he knows what went on. The Caucus is weakening the President's stature.
THE QUESTION FOR REP. MEEK: Has the Party's support for your opponent in your Senatorial campaign, and vitriolic verbiage levied at Obama's compromise, given you a different perspective on racial attitudes within the Democratic Party leadership?
Don't forget, the Dems were the party of the KKK.....
Submitted by nonncom on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 10:05am.
Why, they're just getting back to their roots.....
Well, the circus finally breaks out in a private showing. ACA
Submitted by acaiguana on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 10:14am.
Clowns and a circus. This whole scene is wonderfully absurd.
Only Democrats would fall apart this completely.
First there was Obama, who being at a loss as to what to do to regain his previously touted Messianic charm, falls completely apart in a speech and a news conference.
I could hear the whine a hundred miles away. WAAAAaaaaa, Waaaaa, nobody loves me.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
It is all just for show to be
Submitted by Cowboy on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 1:12pm.
It is all just for show to be able to add more redistribution to the "agreement"...
The Democrats are sounding
Submitted by Cowboy on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 2:09pm.
The Democrats are sounding pretty... racist...