Laura Ingraham Takes On Politico's Allen For Palin Hit Piece
Laura Ingraham took on Mike Allen Monday for his most recent Sarah Palin hit piece published at Politico Sunday.
Somewhat surprisingly, Allen actually defended himself claiming, "This is helpful to Sarah Palin" (YouTube audio follows with partial transcript and commentary):
LAURA INGRAHAM, HOST: She also accused you of yellow journalism, and I mean, the using, and I think her, her point is that most of the piece is not attributed, right? I mean, you have some couple of quotes from Michael Steele, and that’s interesting. But I think, I think the issue is that there are all these whispers going on behind the scenes on the, on the eve of the midterm election. And I guess nobody has the courage to actually be quoted, which I find interesting. So she, I think that that was her point here. If you’re going to run a piece about stopping Palin, you better have a little, a little more in the way of on the record commentary and quotes than just Michael Steele.
Here was Allen’s pathetic response:
MIKE ALLEN, POLITICO: Well, Laura, another way to look at it is it’s kind of elitist to say that only people in Washington should be participating in these conversations. There’s these conversations are going on that Politico should hide them? That we should not report them? That we should only allow people who run around here, or have drinks here, or have dinners here, know what’s going on? This way, Sarah Palin’s supporters, her opponents, her can be a part of the conversation, can know exactly what’s being said…
INGRAHAM: But there is no conversation because nobody’s quoted.
ALLEN: We reached out to Sarah Palin over several days. They decided they didn’t want to be quoted because they didn’t want to have this conversation before the election. They said they would have this conversation after…This is what’s changing about the media, Laura, is it used to be that…
INGRAHAM: Yeah, you had sources, and quotes on the record.
Indeed. But Ingraham was just getting warmed up:
INGRAHAM: I think again the point is you feel entirely comfortable at Politico…You are perfectly comfortable writing a piece about what is I guess sort of gossip and, and whisper campaign that is designed to take down this woman without a single quote attributing to this…
ALLEN: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, wait, wait.
INGRAHAM: …without a single person on the record other than Michael Steele who, and his comments are fairly interesting.
ALLEN: The story points out the opposite of what you’re saying. This is helpful to Sarah Palin. She’s not trying to be the candidate or the champion or the supporter of establishment Washington. If you listen to her campaign appearances, she goes against the establishment. That’s her appeal. Her appeal is that she’s not part of the Washington set. And so to say that, to say that these comments are harmful to her or designed to take her down or negative toward her, that’s a total misreading of this piece.
Ingraham then read some of the opening of the Politico piece for Allen: “Top Republicans in Washington and in the national GOP establishment say the 2010 campaign highlighted an urgent task that they will begin in earnest as soon as the elections are over: Stop Sarah Palin.”
Ingraham asked, “That’s good for Sarah Palin?...That’s a big statement, they’re trying to stop Sarah Palin, and no one will be brave enough to have a quote attributed to them?”
After discussing some of the politics involved in a successful Palin campaign, Ingraham moved back to the poor journalism on display:
INGRAHAM: I like a lot of what you guys do. I think some terrific reporting. This surprised me. This, this, this, this surprised me, because it didn’t, it didn’t seem to measure up to other things that you guys do. And to me, that was a little disappointing.
Listen to Allen’s absurd response:
ALLEN: Okay, so, the next time that there’s widespread conversation in D.C. about a national figure, you think that we should not write about it. That we should not report it because it’s going to hurt their feelings or because someone might misread it.
Imagine a journalist making such a comment. Ingraham recognizing the absurdity let Allen have it:
INGRAHAM: No, because it’s not what a journalist is supposed to do. A journalist is actually supposed to get a few people on the record and not just print what people are afraid to say because that, that, that doesn’t have, there’s no accountability. You can’t go to Ed Gillespie and say, “Ed, you said this. I want to follow-up with what you said.” It’s all just creating a big, you know, rumor mill and, and without attribution. You know this, Mike. You’re having a conversation, I don’t remember seeing these types of articles about seminal liberal figures. That’s what I don’t remember seeing. And maybe you can show me what you’ve done, and maybe I’ve missed something, but to me I don’t see the same type of piece about a liberal when there’s a commonly-held view that no one wants to actually be quoted about that’s bubbling up around Washington. That’s all I’m saying. And look, you know, you have an incredibly successful website, and some great reporters there. This just surprised me, that’s all.
ALLEN: And the reason that it’s successful is that we tell people what’s going on, that we’re not afraid to write about things that in past years would have been available only to elite Washington insiders. That this is something that we pulled back the curtain, told people what was happening, invited Gov. Palin to be part of the conversation. Now her supporters, her opponents are free to be part of the conversation. That’s what journalism should be.
No, that's not what journalism should be, for it allows all kinds of opinions to be represented as having been stated by folks either close to a political figure or opposed to him or her without any accountability whatsoever.
As such, that's not journalism, it's gossip, and that Allen, Jim VandeHei, and the Politico editors don't see the difference is tremendously concerning.
Clearly, Ingraham agreed:
INGRAHAM: No. Let me just say that if you’re going to run a piece about me, and for the most part the criticisms of me are un-attributed, now that’s going to be a short conversation. Okay, and I think you as a smart person if someone called and said, “Mike, we have a piece we’re running about you. They’re saying this, this, and this, and this. You want any comment?” That’s a drive-by. That’s not what I’ve come to expect from you guys.
Well, I'm not sure what Ingraham expects from Politico, but un-sourced hit pieces have become steadily more and more commonplace at major news outlets in recent years, and it only seems to be getting worse.
There used to be a time when an editor wouldn't allow an article that was accusing someone of something to be published unless someone was willing to go on the record.
Sadly, those days appear to be part of a bygone era, for now anything goes.
Makes you wonder where it will all end.
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Allen
Submitted by ripper58 on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 3:43pm.
was clearly taken to the woodshed....what a dope
Is there a Dr Phil in the house?
Submitted by Tomorama on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 3:49pm.
He will end up on every PMSNBC show and the whole lack of sources bullshit will be treated like the truth after about the third show he appears on unchallenged.
At what point does this cowards like minded hit pieces on Palin become, oh I don't know, a PATTERN?
Maybe he has dreams about her and this is his only outlet, "corrupt bastards" indeed.
Ingraham - "..all these little whispers.."
Submitted by Gary Hall on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 4:00pm.
Ingraham: .. I think the issue is that there are all these whispers going on behind the scenes on the, on the eve of the midterm election. And I guess nobody has the courage to actually be quoted, which I find interesting. ..
Wonder how that shoe fits on the other foot. .. and fine, don't quote them - just tell us.
Can one even imagine all of the "little whispers" going on behind the scenes in and around the Democrat Party machine - and it's MSM. For one, the past couple of years has been a non ending legacy of criminal activity within the Democratic party - from big time mayors and governors to entire city governments - numbers must be in the hundreds of individuals, by now. We've got Bill Clinton out there, forever meddling in the game, but only where in the end it gives Hillary an assist - and a quick kick in the pants for Obama; there's got to be some real animosity there.
We've had one big name Democratic pundit and liberal journalist after another, in a singular fashion, go public with the many truths: Obama rode into office on the coattails of the press, unchallenged - not vetted - and was sold as almost God-like; he refused to reach across the isle from the beginning; he's thin skinned, angry and arrogant, the agenda he's got passed has never had majority support; the country wants smaller government with fewer services - not the other way around; the AZ Immigration bill is very popular; and, if he actually loves America, would he please give us a sign? etc.
How about Mike Allen and Politico really reaching out to unnamed sources in the Democratic machine, and laying out a little hit piece there - about what is really going on?
(;~/ gary
Let me go over this again
Submitted by StarAZ on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 4:09pm.
I am a journalist--I also talk to people and don't use unattributed quotes. Maybe the story they were sooo anxious to report was...some Republicans are sniping at her and aren't courageous enough to do it to her face. Big story. We haven't seen that at all. She called it crap on Greta and that about says it. Mike Allen used to have a decent reputation. As for "helping" her--yeah, printing lies that make her look bad in Washington is really all about making her an outsider. Tell me another one.
By the way
Submitted by StarAZ on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 4:11pm.
During Watergate, the WashPost required two sources for every allegation...is that policy gone now?
"This is helpful to Sarah Palin"....
Submitted by Paul G on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 4:32pm.
I just about fell off my chair. This after the 'explanation' from that CBS station in Alaska explaining to us 'idiots', we didn't REALLY hear what we REALLY heard. Or that cable channel 'forgetting' to run the O'Donnell ads.
WE MIGHT have been idiots(we weren't) WE've always known what 'bastards' the media is. It's just NOW we're saying enough is enough.
Same reaction here Paul. And
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 4:40pm.
Same reaction here Paul. And even if they were trying to help (which they weren't), it would still be wrong.
I'm wondering I'm not hearing about those CBS "journalists" on the MSM...
Successful website?
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 4:58pm.
My response to that ....I just deleted "Politico" from my bookmarks.
I did that months ago cajun..
Submitted by Paul G on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 5:15pm.
now if I can only stop getting rerouted there...lol
Swayed my vote !
Submitted by AGreer on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 4:57pm.
Allen and Obummer convinced me !
I'm not voting for Palin or Bush tomorrow !
The "smarter than everyone" morons don't even know who they're running against.
Unamed sources have told a
Submitted by mattm on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 5:00pm.
Unamed sources have told a certain news gathering service that they have evidence that Mike Allen is having an affair with his neighbor's lawn decorations...
How's that for journalism?
They told us so we could be part of the conversation?
Submitted by KC Mulville on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 7:06pm.
How can you join a conversation if you don't know who you're conversing with?
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"There’s these conversations are going on that Politico should hide them? That we should not report them?"
Gossip against conservatives
Submitted by deerjerkydave on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 11:35pm.
Gossip against conservatives is hard hitting news over at Politico I guess.
I remember when big media had the same journalistic standards when the story broke that John Edwards was in the middle of an affair against his dying wife. It took the liberal media an entire week to acknowledge the story even existed! Their excuse? "We wanted to have all the facts before reporting on it." Oh yes, suddenly their standards were very high. But a Palin hit piece based on rumors? Anonymous sources will do just fine.
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"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite. -James MadisonIt seems that Laura Ingraham was unwilling
Submitted by Rush Fan on Tue, 11/02/2010 - 4:03am.
to be completely honest with Politico's Mike Allen. If she had, Ingraham would have had an exchange with Allen that went something like this:
Now that sounds much more honest than what she really said:
Laura Ingraham protests too much. Ingraham is really not surprised by Politico's hit job. She is well aware that Politico and Allen and his cohorts, among them Editor-in-chief John F. Harris and Executive editor Jim VandeHei, are as liberal (read biased and agenda-driven) as any reporters at the New York Times or The Washington Post. Why shouldn't they be? Harris and VanderHei left the Washington Post to launch Politico. Mike Allen worked for the New York Times and Time magazine.
Now I understand why Laura believes she should soften her comments to Mike Allen and other liberal guest who appear on her show, among them Howard Fineman, formerly Newsweek’s Chief Political Correspondent, Senior Editor and Deputy Washington Bureau Chief. who is now senior political editor at the far left Huffington Post (and a frequent guest of Matthews and Olbermann).
If Laura is too critical of them they will no longer appear on her radio show. It's the same reason Bill O"Reilly, when he criticizes the far left, always criticizes the "far right" as well, even when the far right doesn't deserve the criticism. To O'Reilly, (Rush Limbaugh refers to him appropriately as Ted Baxter) that "fair and balanced" criticism may help him obtain another interview with President Obama.
Still, I wish Laura Ingraham, who I like, was more like conservative radio host (and lawyer, author, etc.) Mark Levin, who is very honest and frank. She might have fewer liberal guests on her radio show, but is that such a bad thing?