Is making a racist remark about President Obama's daughter worse than wishing a conservative talk show host would die?
Such should be asked of MSNBC's Keith Olbermann who on Monday was quite angered by some truly tasteless comments about Malia Obama posted last week at Free Republic.
Yet, back in April when Olbermann published a diary at the liberal website Daily Kos concerning his waterboarding challenge to Sean Hannity, the "Countdown" host wasn't at all outraged by the venomous attacks made on the Fox News star which included some Kossacks wishing he would die.
For those that can stand it, here's a sampling of such commentary:
prefer if you paid for Sean to be parachuted into rural Iraq without backup. Shitbird vs. wild.Give to netroots for the troops!
by bubbanomics on Fri Apr 24, 2009 at 09:54:37 AM PDT [...]
Nice, huh? Or how about these Kos Kids who want to urinate in the bucket that will be used:
Or how about this lovely sentiment:
I'll throw in a grand if they end up trach-ing Hannity and he has to spend the rest of his life putting a finger over the tube in order to say 'it wasn't torture'...It's often said that life is strange. But compared to what? --Steve Forbert
Or this:
inanity
I've got a better idea. Let's just keep the water flowing until he goes limp, and the world is suddenly a slightly nicer place to live.
Now, these comments were posted almost three months ago, and are still up...in a thread created by Olbermann no less.
Did he enter this thread and chastise those making such remarks?
Not that I can see.
Did he contact Markos Moulitsas and complain about this behavior?
Well, if he did, the comments are still available.
Did he make Moulitsas the "Worst Person in the World" for allowing such commentary at his website?
Of course not.
Has he boycotted the site as a result?
Nope, he's written three diaries since.
As such, I guess in Olbermann's view, it must be worse to make racist remarks about Malia than talk about Sean Hannity's death.
Any questions?
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Comparison is stinky..
July 16, 2009 - 17:55 ET by Jen7You're going to compare this to Malia, a child, being called a whore and trash....Michelle being compared to a monkey, etc...???
Really? A child to a grown man who inserted himself into the waterboard debate?
As you may presently yourself be fully made aware of, my grammar sucks.
Family Guy
Jen
July 16, 2009 - 17:58 ET by Noel SheppardJen,
So, let's get this on the record, shall we?
Do you believe that making a racist remark about Malia is worse than wishing Sean Hannity would die? Yes or no? ns
I think both are disgusting...but the comparison doesn't match
July 16, 2009 - 18:38 ET by Jen7Find a liberal blog/website where commentors trashed Bristol and called her a whore, approved of the comments, then put a representative on TV to excuse those comments. Okay? That would be a fair comparison.
As you may presently yourself be fully made aware of, my grammar sucks.
Family Guy
Still not answering the
July 16, 2009 - 19:33 ET by motherbeltStill not answering the question, I see.
Now you're challenging Noel to find another example; one that you approve of.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Moving
July 16, 2009 - 19:53 ET by RukusHey momma-b, it's those pesky goal posts on wheels don'cha know! : )
Gary
I want my country back!
Ruk,
July 16, 2009 - 22:02 ET by R D HelmLOL-That just conjured up a picture in my mind that, oh, never mind.
-Dave
"...stimulus plan is 'working exactly as we had anticipated.'" - PrezBO
Jen
July 16, 2009 - 19:52 ET by Noel SheppardJen,
You came into this thread moments after it was published claiming this was a "stinky" comparison. I then asked you a simple yes or no question. If you can't answer it, consider yourself persona non grata and the troll everyone here claims you to be. Capiche? ns
Noel.....
July 17, 2009 - 02:06 ET by Timothy HI know it may seem like I'm coming down on the liberal side of things here, but I think that in my 3+ years here I have displayed more thought than partisanship. And I respect and tend to agree with you, Noel, about 99 % of the time. But......
I'll give you the answer you wanted Jen to give, Noel. Yes. It is worse for people to bring a politician's child into the arena than it is for idiots on a blog to post the tripe that the above idiots were posting.
Why? For the same reason that I will never watch David Letterman again. Because, While I pretty much disagree with Obama across the board ("pretty much" only because he did order the pirates sniped from the boat) , his children didn't run for office. Attacking them, or Sarah Palin's children, or those of any politician, is nothing more than a pathetic excuse for lowbrow humor from morons who ran out of ideas to bash the politician themselves.
But the strength behind my argument lies here. Will Sean Hannity sleep any worse after reading that tripe? Will any of those things actually happen? And, though it matters less it is still relevent, does Sean insert himself into the public eye? No, No and Yes. Sean is strong, and I doubt he suffered any lasting effects from such a waste of cyberspace.
But the children of these politicians are young and this sort of thing can be brutal on them. It is possible that these things CAN do lasting emotional damage.
So, YES. It is worse. In the end, the remarks written/speken about politicians' children have a greater potential to cause true harm.
All that being said, though, Olberman is still a blazing hypocrit. Where was his righteous indignation when it was Sarah Palin's kids being attacked? Where was the passionate display then?
Your core point is still good one way or the other, Noel.
Olberman is a hypocritical piece of fecal waste.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Tim
July 17, 2009 - 10:06 ET by Noel SheppardTim,
Minorities live with racism all their lives. I've lived with anti-Semitism all my life. Do you actually believe this was the first time Malia experienced racism? Or the last?
Furthermore, do you think she spends much time at Free Republic? Do you think she would have heard about any of this if it hadn't been hypocritically brought up at Daily Kos? Or if it hadn't been hypocritically reported by Shuster and Olbermann?
In the end, these were foolish comments made at a website, much like the comments about Hannity. If they got no attention beyond those websites, Malia wouldn't have heard about them and neither would Sean.
With that as pretext, if we actually want to compare which is worse, any conclusion that a racist comment -- regardless of the subject it's directed at -- is a stronger "assault" than claiming you want someone to die is totally absurd.
People survive racist remarks. Death is final.
Sorry, but I don't see any logic whatsoever in a contrary view. ns
Noel....
July 17, 2009 - 12:59 ET by Timothy HI could agree with your point, if not for the fact that this isn't theory. There is an actual example involved. While we can speak in what if's, the reality is that these things DO get reported on and these children, from Malia to Bristol, do suffer the effects. These children become the object of nationally broadcast ridicule. My kids suffer when a bully at school picks on them. Imagine the humiliation if the bully was reported on, and in some cases agreed with on a national platform. I know the thought seems overly simplified, but simplified or not, it is realistic.
To reverse your question, do you think that this is the first time Sean has had to read about people's sick fantasies about his death? Political pundits, especially Conservatives (would hazard a guess that this even applies to our own dear Brent Bozell, though I couldn't say for sure) deal with the ill wishes of the not-like-minded throughout their whole career, and just judging from what I've seen, probably more often than minorities actually experience racism. Racism is socially unacceptable. Conservative assault is PC.
Where I really think that your logic strays, though, is here.....
"People survive racist remarks. Death is final."
Sean did not experience death, nor will he at the hands of or in the ways desired by the blog commenters. Malia did experience racism. So I only see one target that was actually hurt by the example in question. How many pundit's lives have been ended by the sharp, twisted tongues of bloggers? But I still believe that, if we take Gov. Palin at her word (and I do), The attacks by bloggers, Letterman, and the media in general on her children did have some part in her resignation, even if it was no larger part than to persuade her children, all of whom she polled, to vote yes for leaving office. To me, it's not that the remark is racist, but that it was directed at a child who never asked to be in the public spotlight.
So....I have to disagree with you here, and I fail to see the logic in the contrary view. ;-)
(edit: But only to the point on which is worse. Olby is still a hypocritical tool and both situations are still vile - TH)
(edit again: I also wanted to make the point that my opinion is contingent on the example, and were both victims adult public figures, than my view on the subject would be different in that I would feel they are equally vile - TH)
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Tim
July 17, 2009 - 12:59 ET by Noel SheppardTim,
Well, there's something I think you're missing and that is neither of these acts were actually perpetrated on the subjects. They were expressed somewhat anonymously at message boards. So, to clarify your position if you don't mind, there actually was no racism expressed towards Malia just as there were no death threats towards Sean. Follow me?
So, let's bring this closer to home: which would be worse, someone saying a racial epithet directly to Malia or someone saying to Sean's face he should die?
Forgive me, but I would be MUCH more offended by someone telling me they'd like me dead than calling me a cheap Jew.
Taking this a step further, I think someone wishing I was dead would be worse than someone calling my son or daughter a cheap Jew.
See my point? ns
Noel, absolutely....but
July 17, 2009 - 14:06 ET by Timothy HI absolutely agree with you there. But those are still what-ifs. The subject was based on the reality, cowardly and facelessly anonymous as it is. None of the things that you mentioned actually happened in these cases. That would be why my opinion is where it stands. Had those things happened, my opinion would change, but they didn't.
And my family has suffered both, in real life. I am half Lakota Sioux and my then 7 year old daughter was attacked by an adult and threatened with death at his trial, by the attacker and his family. So I do have some perspective on which you speak as well.
In the new examples you gave, I would agree with you.
But, in the original examples given, I still feel the same way I did, as they are much different circumstances from the newly presented ones.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Noel, on a side note.
July 17, 2009 - 14:07 ET by Timothy HI really wish more disagrements on this sight could be debated this amicably. This has been a great debate, my friend. Thank you.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Tim
July 17, 2009 - 14:16 ET by Noel SheppardTim,
You're right. The heck with civility. It doesn't sell ad space.
With that in mind, "Tim, you ignorant slut!!! " :-) ns
Noel!!!! lmao!
July 17, 2009 - 14:22 ET by Timothy Hdind't see that coming! you r supposed to warn about those types of comments! Now I have to spend the next little bit cleaning Bud Light out of my laptop's keyboard! Thanx a lot! lmao!
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Tim
July 17, 2009 - 14:26 ET by Noel SheppardTim,
Bud Light? Where do you live? Isn't it a bit early for Milla Time? :-) ns
Noel, nope!
July 17, 2009 - 14:35 ET by Timothy HHere in Notre Dame country (South Bend, IN), it's 3:30, the grill is warming for a Friday afternoon bar-b-que and the steaks are assuming room temp on the countertop! That, my friend, is most certainly the best (and for me, the only, other than occational sporting events) time for a cold one! Cheers! ;-)
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Tim
July 17, 2009 - 14:37 ET by Noel SheppardTim,
And you didn't invite me? I travel well!!! :-) ns
Noel
July 17, 2009 - 14:38 ET by Timothy HWhat? I sent the RSVP weeks ago! I thought you were just avoiding me. lol!
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
TH.....South Bend, eh?
July 17, 2009 - 14:50 ET by BlondeOK you, kindly keep your hands off my coach! (And for you, NS, I chose an article that had your favorite word in the title).
Oh, and another for you, NS....Tebow takes home the ESPY for best college athlete, yet again.
It's the least I could do for you gentlemen, seeing how I thoughtlessly lost my invitation.
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde!
July 17, 2009 - 14:58 ET by Timothy HHello, Blonde. Dincha know that every1 wants to be Irish? And judging by Urban's record, he probably does, too!
Glad to see you! How's that horse?
I'll check back later, as my coals have turned white!
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Burn 'em, baby!
July 17, 2009 - 15:24 ET by BlondeRo's fine, thanks for asking.
Mmmm....steaks, sounds like a plan, think I'll take a few out of the freezer.
I miss your old tag....some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints. That's it exactly, yes?
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde...
July 17, 2009 - 16:22 ET by Timothy HYep, that was it, and likely will be again. Steaks were great. New York Strips, med-rare.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
Timothy....
July 17, 2009 - 16:35 ET by BlondeThat tag was my all time favorite, always reminded me of my first love, King Pecho....I don't have a pic to post, but here is a picture of his sire, Poco Pecho. Awesome creature.
NY strips? We're going to have filets....we made a trip to Costco the other day and those pesky tenderloins always jump out of the cooler, LOL.
So lovely to see you back here, TH.
I hope he fails, too.
Beauty of a horse, Blonde. truly.
July 17, 2009 - 17:45 ET by Timothy HGlad to be back. Will have a little more time to post now that Obamanomics have gotten me laid-off.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
and just for blonde.....
Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints. - Timothy H
:)
July 17, 2009 - 17:58 ET by BlondeLooks SO much better when you do it, Tim.
I must be idea deficient (could be the rum & cokes)...but I'll quote Jack Bauer....Obama Lied...Jobs Died.
I'm sorry to hear that, and I understand perfectly.
All the best....back later.
I hope he fails, too.
Noel..
July 17, 2009 - 23:37 ET by Jen7I'm not going to get caught up in your Hannity yes or no questioning. He's a slime ball and in no way do I think it's right to wish him dead. However, your comparison was crap.
As you may presently yourself be fully made aware of, my grammar sucks.
Family Guy
J7
July 18, 2009 - 00:04 ET by Noel SheppardJ7,
I'm not going to get caught up in your Hannity yes or no questioning.
Was Sean Hannity the first person to ask yes or no questions?
You're pathetic, and just proved yourself to be nothing but the troll every member here believes you to be. You should be totally ashamed of yourself.
Don't ever expect a response from me in the future, and please don't soil my articles with your presence again. I've quite had enough of you! There will be no further warnings. ns
Noel, I'm not afraid of your threats
July 18, 2009 - 16:05 ET by Jen7If you can't handle criticism, then you shouldn't post. Hannity is famous for his yes or no questions. He's a bully. And I won't be bullied by you.
As you may presently yourself be fully made aware of, my grammar sucks.
Family Guy
Jen7
July 18, 2009 - 16:17 ET by Timothy HThe usual reason to NOT answer a yes or no question is because your logic fails. I can't see any other reason. I answered the question above, stated my reasons, and had quite a amicable disagreement with Noel. I wasn't bullied, and if you notice, I answered the question he asked you. It really wasn't hard.....unless you can't defend your own position.
So I guess that I don't get the bullying thing. Noel handled my criticism like a champ, but then, I actually backed up my opinion. Try doing the same, instead of whining about the simplicity of the question, answer it, then back it up. Otherwise, you will be viewed as a troll, just hanging around to be contrarian. It's that simple.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
and just for blonde.....
Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints. - Timothy H
Timothy H, I don't think
July 18, 2009 - 16:24 ET by hydrodynDMTimothy H,
I don't think Jen7 will be doing much of anything around here anymore.
Hydro...
July 18, 2009 - 16:26 ET by Timothy HLOL. Was deserved.
BTW. Long time no see, hydro. how ya been?
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
and just for blonde.....
Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints. - Timothy H
Timothy, Been busy with
July 18, 2009 - 16:37 ET by hydrodynDMTimothy,
Been busy with school - I somehow got wrangled into teaching summer school - not sure how that happened.
I do check in every day, but with the kind of top notched posts from you and others, I don't seem to ever have much to add.
Keep up the good work.
hydro... Yep, another
July 18, 2009 - 16:30 ET by bigtimerhydro...
Yep, another troll bit the dust.
After that reply from J7 I was just counting the minutes 'til 'poof'!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
bigtimer, Actually, the
July 18, 2009 - 16:39 ET by hydrodynDMbigtimer,
Actually, the moment I saw Jen7's post, my first instinct was to check if they had been terminated.
And they had... with extreme prejudice.
(Yes, I get the irony of that quote, given the topic).
LOL!
July 18, 2009 - 16:44 ET by RukusThat's exactly my term for gettin' 86's... "poofed". LOL! I said the same thing when pop got poofed. Too funny! Jen had it coming. : )
Gary
Hey, Jimmah Che Obama! I want my country back!
Whoops!
July 18, 2009 - 16:40 ET by RukusThere it is! (was). hehe! : )
Gary
Hey, Jimmah Che Obama! I want my country back!
CYA later
July 18, 2009 - 16:46 ET by RukusLiberalgator! Poof!
Yeah, after the fact but needed to be said. : )
Gary
Hey, Jimmah Che Obama! I want my country back!
Ruk,
July 18, 2009 - 17:01 ET by R D HelmLOL-Don't ya just love it?
Made my day, that did.
ACCESS DENIED-two of the most beautiful words you will ever run across here at NB. :-)
-Dave
"...stimulus plan is 'working exactly as we had anticipated.'" - PrezBO
Access Denied
July 18, 2009 - 18:02 ET by RukusI agree Dave! Gotta love it when the trolls get 86'd. Made my day also. : )
Gary
Hey, Jimmah Che Obama! I want my country back!
J7
July 18, 2009 - 17:01 ET by Noel SheppardJ7,
Well, then have it your way.
Might I suggest in the future that if you challenge someone's writing in a public forum, you should be willing to back up your criticism. Furthermore, asking someone a simple, yes or no question that is completely relevant to the subject at hand is not bullying. It's a fairly basic component of intellectual discourse, and if you're not willing to respond, you'll never be a welcomed member of a web-based community.
Happy trails, and I hope you find the political interaction you're looking for someday. ns
Thank you Mr. Sheppard
July 18, 2009 - 18:05 ET by RukusYou have made my day. Thank you good sir! : )
Happy trails, LOL! Very good!
Gary
Hey, Jimmah Che Obama! I want my country back!
Thank You, Mr. Sheppard
July 18, 2009 - 16:56 ET by R D HelmLOL-I'd buy you a beer or three for ridding us of that annoying troll (if only temporarily), but I am about to light off a grill and cook some serious burgers.
:-)
-Dave
"...stimulus plan is 'working exactly as we had anticipated.'" - PrezBO
Darn it Dave!
July 18, 2009 - 16:59 ET by RukusI got some big 'ol Gulf jumbo shrimp but I'm on call so I can't make it to Jawja! Oh well, maybe next time buddy. : )
Gary
Hey, Jimmah Che Obama! I want my country back!
Gary... Dang...jumbo
July 18, 2009 - 17:03 ET by bigtimerGary...
Dang...jumbo shrimp...you're making my mouth water...at times like this I miss living in Seward Ak, and the fresh jumbo shrimp my husband along with the rest of the crew would bring in....mmmm mmm good.
Sold a lot, ate a lot.
I miss the fresh halibut too.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Ruk,
July 18, 2009 - 17:19 ET by R D HelmThat's a shame, 'cause I have four Webers out back, 2x22.5", 1x18.5" and my always trusty little Smokey Joe.
And I have 25lbs of charcoal left from the 43lbs I bought for the 4th of July weekend.
And I just bought a couple packages of bamboo skewers, too.
-Dave
"...stimulus plan is 'working exactly as we had anticipated.'" - PrezBO
Yummy!
July 18, 2009 - 18:11 ET by RukusIf I ever get near Atlanta I'll let ya know. We got's us some bad boy big assed shrimp down here in Ocean Springs MS that would go great with some good Atlanta steak barbeque! Damn! I'm hongreeee!!! Gonna go thaw out some pork steaks! Yum! Take care my full friend! : )
Gary
Hey, Jimmah Che Obama! I want my country back!
I think it's worse.
July 16, 2009 - 19:41 ET by balboaI think it's worse.
balboa
July 16, 2009 - 19:54 ET by Noel Sheppardb,
You think a racist remark is worse than a death wish? I now understand your misplaced priorities quite well. Adieu. ns
Doubtful. I think it's worse
July 16, 2009 - 20:03 ET by balboaDoubtful. I think it's worse because we're talking about comments about a child vs. an adult. That to me makes the comments worse.
balboa
July 16, 2009 - 20:13 ET by Noel SheppardBalboa,
Really? So a racial epithet towards a child is worse than a death wish for an adult?
Fascinating.
So, if someone made a racial epithet toward Malia, that would be worse than someone wanting Obama dead in your view? Please advise. ns
I guess I'm looking at it
July 16, 2009 - 21:03 ET by balboaI guess I'm looking at it more from the context. It seems worse to insult some poor little kid than to take a potshot at a talking head. Similarly, I'd think it was worse to make some awful remark about the Bush twins when they were 12 than to make a "death wish" post about Olbermann.
balboa
July 16, 2009 - 21:09 ET by Noel Sheppardbalboa,
Excuse me, but you said this was a kid versus an adult thing, right? Didn't you? Did I misread what you wrote? Now it's about something else?
I tell you what: why don't you define what your real position is in more than just a couple of pithy sentences, and then I'll respond accordingly, okay? That might save us both a lot of time and aggravation. ns
I'm not trying to be pithy.
July 16, 2009 - 21:27 ET by balboaI'm not trying to be pithy. I'm trying to answer you. I think it's worse to make racist comments about some kid than to say you wished some talking head were dead. So I guess it's the combination of the age and the person. This doesn't in any way make it OK to wish someone dead. I'm not giving that a free pass.
Bal
July 16, 2009 - 21:35 ET by botgwhat's with the lisp?
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
OK, that's pretty funny. :-)
July 16, 2009 - 21:43 ET by balboaOK, that's pretty funny. :-)
Never seen Bal
July 16, 2009 - 21:39 ET by general companyAccomplish that Noel,,,,,on pins and needles here. : ]
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
balboa
July 16, 2009 - 20:20 ET by well99Missed that first time around.So I guess the Tony Snow death watch was not as bad as a racist remark.How about Huffers hopeing Nancy Reagan slipping in bathtub and dying.
Just a few post of those saintly Kos Kids after Tony's death.
THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS FROM DAILY KOS
HIs death sucks? (0+ / 0-)
If only his cancer was contagious and the thugs he worked for caught it, it would have saved the suffering of actual innocent people. He was part of the mafia that took over this country and frankly, I’m glad he’s dead.
...
It is indeed hard to lose a loved one. But I can’t even muster any good thoughts to send his family and friends.
Here is a man who could of used his power and talents to help people, to better the world. And he didn’t — in fact he did the complete opposite. He was a liar, we all know what the consequences of those lies have been and will continue to be until God knows when.
I am not sad he’s gone. Sorry if that’s offensive to anyone. I’ll save my sorrow for those who suffered because of the lies Mr. Snow pertetuated.
...
There is a certain irony in him being killed by his own rotten a$$.
...
Snow was a sh#t head piece of FOX NEWS lying crap. He and the rest of BushCo need to be jailed.
That anyone here would dare praise him is beyond an insult to Progressive Democrats like me.
UNREAL!
...
F**k Tony Snow, early & often (3+ / 3-)
He’s in the deepest corner of Hell right now, bent over next to Joe Goebbels, with Satan’s forked dick way up in his rotten cancerous colon.
Obviously these are horrible
July 16, 2009 - 21:05 ET by balboaObviously these are horrible remarks.
balboa
July 16, 2009 - 21:43 ET by well99I understand if your talking about child/adult comparison. What I am looking at is a straight up racist vs. death threat. Death threat is the worse in my book.What the heck it is typical white person response.
I agree.
July 16, 2009 - 21:46 ET by balboaI agree.
Weren't those racist comments
July 16, 2009 - 17:58 ET by eddiebeara plant from a Kossack who was also a writer for some British Columbia newspaper?
Yeah, some 'reporter' named
July 16, 2009 - 20:53 ET by sflconYeah, some 'reporter' named Chris Parry (who advocates going onto conservative blogs and placing offensive remarks to frame the entire site as some sort of Klan rally) 'reported' the story.
The moderators found and removed the comments (a couple out of hundreds), but the leftists are attempting to create some sort of meme out of it. Free Republic is a massive message board with constant activity, so it is likely that a troll could post something and have their comment left unnoticed long enough to screen-capture their "proof."
Free Republic is simply the new target of the dirty tricks leftist attack machine, ala Rush Limbaugh a few months back.
If you doubt that, take a look at how fast the trolls jumped on this thread.
Liberals are not americans
July 16, 2009 - 18:04 ET by kangarooLiberals are not americans or humans, how discusting they are, and what liberal has a 1000 bucks, take em 2 years to save that much if not longer, only reason they move is to go to the post box. Plants are what caused this trouble, mongrels
So what are they? Canadians?
July 16, 2009 - 18:18 ET by balboaSo what are they? Canadians? Czechs?
But you are right about those meddlesome plants. Who needs 'em!
Why would those other
July 16, 2009 - 18:26 ET by kangarooWhy would those other countries care, they have their own problems.
Um libs are acting true to their nature, they have the handbook
balboa
July 16, 2009 - 18:36 ET by well99Transylvanians.They are monsters dont you know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeZftK2kO6U
A-ha! Now we're cookin'.
July 16, 2009 - 18:41 ET by balboaA-ha! Now we're cookin'.
Liberals are mostly
July 16, 2009 - 19:09 ET by nadadhimmiLiberals are mostly failures. College proffs that never had the guts to leave the campus into the real world, or lazy asses without an iota of self motivation or dedication. Then, there are the liberal leaders, seeking power by disseminating workers money to those that don't work. These leaders are the worst because they rely on using the morons for personal power gain even as they personally despise them for the fools they are. They resemble drug pushers addicting people to the drug of free money. The final group of libs are the truly stupid ones, like Cindy Sheehan. To damn dumb to realize when they are being used and discarded like an old tampon.
Wow, that was some of the
July 16, 2009 - 19:38 ET by balboaWow, that was some of the funniest stuff I've read in YEARS.
Funny because it's true?
July 16, 2009 - 19:41 ET by MightyMouthI think its tragic... :-(
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Funny because it's so
July 16, 2009 - 19:42 ET by balboaFunny because it's so outlandishly ridiculous.
Totally agree Amigo...
July 16, 2009 - 19:44 ET by MightyMouth"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
nadadhimmi, I'm wondering
July 17, 2009 - 00:34 ET by hydrodynDMnadadhimmi,
I'm wondering - are just liberal college profs failures or are conservative ones as well?
Wrong! We are ALL Americans...whether Liberal or Conseratives
July 16, 2009 - 18:45 ET by Jen7This is a disgusting comment by Kang. I may disagree with your ideas, but you are just as American than I am.
As you may presently yourself be fully made aware of, my grammar sucks.
Family Guy
Yea ok, were all Americans
July 16, 2009 - 18:55 ET by general companySome of us love her just fine and some of us what to change her to something unrecognizable.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
sorry jen, I stand by my
July 16, 2009 - 19:02 ET by kangaroosorry jen, I stand by my opinion, if you are a yank, start acting like one and stand up for America.
Yeah, Jen, if you're going
July 16, 2009 - 19:23 ET by balboaYeah, Jen, if you're going to be an American, the least you can do is behave the way kangaroo thinks you should behave...
Well balboa, I hear you are
July 16, 2009 - 19:52 ET by kangarooWell balboa, I hear you are a liberal? Wellllllllllll give me a heads up, why it would be to my benefit.
I have no idea what you're
July 16, 2009 - 20:09 ET by balboaI have no idea what you're trying to say.
I'm sayin, stick up for
July 16, 2009 - 20:24 ET by kangarooI'm sayin, stick up for America, you live here right?
Forget it Roo
July 16, 2009 - 20:38 ET by general companyBal thinks he is making America.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
GC, what does that mean? How
July 16, 2009 - 21:06 ET by balboaGC, what does that mean? How am I doing that?
what does that mean?
July 16, 2009 - 21:58 ET by general companyI couldnt be more clear,,,its not a trick statement.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
How am I "making America"?
July 16, 2009 - 22:02 ET by balboaHow am I "making America"?
But I guess this is the same
July 16, 2009 - 22:21 ET by general companyOl same ol? But maybe this wont really change things much?
Isnt this what you had in mind when you pulled that lever for Obama?
Night
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Mostly I saw "not McCain."
July 16, 2009 - 22:58 ET by balboaMostly I saw "not McCain." Health care wasn't a big part of my decision.
Is this a startling new revelation?
July 16, 2009 - 19:15 ET by UnsaneSince when, as a committed Socialist and one who is perpetually enraged that America isn't a whiny babying Nanny State, did you start to believe that "we are all Americans"?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
The Screech
July 16, 2009 - 18:04 ET by bigtimerOlbie is a whining, lying, biased hypocrite of the worst sort.
The picture above speaks volumes.
So fitting...
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
I can't resist, Piss
July 16, 2009 - 18:13 ET by kangarooI can't resist,
Piss off, thumb tack, LOL
First Lady Michelle Obama a Racist???
July 16, 2009 - 18:14 ET by Retired GeekPerhaps a Liberal or someone else here today at News Busters, can provide us with a quote or links to another 'First Lady' who stated unequivocally, that she would utilize all of their present and future resources to benefit her race over any other race?
"There is no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost". Michelle Obama
whoa, thats something I
July 16, 2009 - 19:08 ET by kangaroowhoa, thats something I want to see,
Greek since you have that saying, you must have a link,
PS dont exspect a lib to give you the time of day,
cheers going for a look
UPDATE, well I had a look around and sheesh couldn't find anything on that subject, but michelle is crying over her anscesters, good grief we havent heard the last of this. I'd say this is why she has her mind set.
Is there any chance Obama's
July 16, 2009 - 18:40 ET by balboaIs there any chance Obama's views have changed in the 24 years since she wrote this?
Has anyone asked her if she still believes in this?
bal
July 16, 2009 - 18:52 ET by MightyMouthI am sure, like Wright ,she has never heard herself say that!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
balboa
July 16, 2009 - 19:45 ET by well99Whose is there to ask the question?With the exception of Jake Tapper the msm is in the tank.
Use logic - the whole is equal to the sum of its parts
July 16, 2009 - 20:19 ET by Retired GeekMichelle and Barack Obama attended a 'Racist' Church 23 years - they had their children baptized by a 'Racist' in a 'Racist Church'.
A church who made the writings of 'Racist James Cone' required reading for all new members.
"Whiteness, as revealed in the history of America, is the expression of what is wrong with man. It is a symbol of man's depravity. God cannot be white, even though white churches have portrayed him as white. When we look at what whiteness has done to the minds of men in this country, we can see clearly what the New Testament meant when it spoke of the principalities and powers."
- James H. Cone; Black Theology & Black Power; p 150
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A church that awarded 'Racist Louis Farrakhan' a lifetime achievment award.
"The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him." Farrakhan
"Six-thousand years ago, an evil wizard called Dr. Yacub created the white "race" in a genetic experiment." Farrakhan
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A church based on the 'Black Value System' and 'Black Separatism'.
"There is no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost". Michelle Obama
Barack and Michelle Obama are the RACISTS!
The irony of all of this is
July 16, 2009 - 21:42 ET by Radical1979The irony of all of this is that is was Obama's WHITE mother and her family who raised him. Who knows where he would be without members of the white race.
Of course our country would most certainly better off if Obama was where he is today...
The irony of all of this is
July 16, 2009 - 21:42 ET by Radical1979The irony of all of this is that is was Obama's WHITE mother and her family who raised him. Who knows where he would be without members of the white race.
Of course our country would most certainly better off if Obama was where he is today...
Check the documentation on my blog
July 16, 2009 - 20:22 ET by Retired GeekBarack Obama was mentored by Communist Frank Marshall Davis, Communist writer and poet (1905-1987).
Frank Marshall Davis was identified unequivocally as a CPUSA member in a 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities.
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Barack Obama carefully chose William 'Bill' Ayers who said, "Kill all the rich people. ... Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents."
In the 1960s, Bernardine Dohrn and her husband Bill Ayers were leaders of the "Weatherman" faction, which in 1969 went underground to become America's first terrorist cult.
Barack Obama launched his political career in the home of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.
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Alice Palmer met Barack Obama during meetings at the home of Bill Ayers and hand picked Obama to fill her newly vacated 'State Senate Seat'.
Alice Palmer served as an executive board member of the U.S. Peace Council, which the FBI identified as a Communist front group.
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Michael Klonsky was chosen by Barack Obama as a blogger on the 'Obama official Website'. Klonsky a former leader of 'SDS' - Students for a Democratic Society and a leader of the 'New Communist Party'.
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Tim Wheeler is a National Board member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA), and has been a key figure in the party's Baltimore chapter since the early 1970s. He helped organize local canvassing and visibility events for Obama, and he chronicled his experiences on the campaign trail in a blog that appeared on the Obama campaign website.
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Jeremiah Wright was carefully chosen by Barack Obama to 'Mentor' him and be his spiritual guide.
Mentor Wright became famous for screaming 'God Damn America' from the pulpit at TUCC.
http://hisfacts.blog...
The original TUCC Black Value System link
July 16, 2009 - 20:33 ET by Retired GeekThe entire original TUCC Black Value System of Barack and Michelle Obama's Church for 23 years.
They joined the Church, were married there, baptized their children there and stayed members over 20 years.
In addition, Barack Obama chose the Pastor of the Church - Jeremiah Wright - as his personal 'Mentor and Spiritual Adviser'.
You can read an original transcript at my blog.
http://geekonobama.b...
First Lady Michelle Obama a Racist???
July 16, 2009 - 19:39 ET by RD KingI did a search and radical michelle is the only worldwide muslim that came up stating the purpose of her black enterprise. Am I surprised? NO. This muslim is a total disgrace to the USA as much or more than her POS husband, urinal totus extraordinare, aka outhouse affirmative action guy, Chicargo thug extortionist and last but not least they are both sorry no good naggers. http://www.vidilife....
With the LA Times video from the Kahlidi party of radical michelle and osama bin obama maniacal ubangi dancing and chanting Death To America and Death To Israel how could you doubt either one of these muslims intentions? They don't hold any of their hatred for America back.
"No Recovery until Nobama!!!!!" me and at least 59,934,786 other Americans.
Kos Kids and Olberdork
July 16, 2009 - 18:29 ET by well99If you go to must vile and disgusting place in the world.You will find the Kos Kid Klan lurking in the dark.Olberdork will be wallowing right with them.He reminds me of golem from the Lord of the Rings.
Hypocrisy, thy name is Keith Olbermann!
July 16, 2009 - 19:20 ET by BeukeboomHypocrisy, thy name is Keith Olbermann!
delete
July 16, 2009 - 19:32 ET by motherbeltI didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
I tried
July 16, 2009 - 19:34 ET by jessieHSorry, I tried to read this, but the farther I got, the sicker I felt. I think I am allergic to stupid people. If I go to the doctor now, I might get to see him in 10 months. Oh, sorry, I thought the healthcare bill had already been passed.
Oh dear. Did you learn nothing the first time Mr. Noel?
July 16, 2009 - 20:23 ET by JWFYou are allowed to say nothing about teh child evah! Racist or anything else. Nothing. Insults. Facts. Comments. Pointing out the existence. Nothing!
So. That said. You are pointing out the death wishes to Mr. Sean against silence? Yes. death wishes to Mr. Sean is worth than silence.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
The obama white mama
July 16, 2009 - 22:05 ET by RD Kingdidn't do him any good, she was at least as big or bigger commie than he is. He was raised to be what he is today by all his parents how many ever it was and doesn't have the good sense to change his ways and be a decent human being. When he is gone and that doesn't mean dead just gone, as for me and mine it will be dancing in the streets, not a wish just a good thing for America.
"No Recovery until Nobama!!!!!" me and at least 59,934,786 other Americans.
?????
July 16, 2009 - 22:18 ET by saw the lightOK, nobody else addressed this (and I'm shocked), so I'll go for it:
What the heck is "WAR PROFITTERING?"
"I think that when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." Barack Obama to "Joe the Plumber"
Who cares what some Tom
July 17, 2009 - 03:57 ET by RR GOPWho cares what some Tom Dick or Harry posts on a forum no matter how big? There's vile stuff from both sides out there and that's no secret.
Seems that as Obummer's poll numbers and support tanks these types have to find other things...like is getting on a few Freepers' posts going to make Obamacare work?
A real waste of air time. It's their dime-I can only surmise their swimming in money so bad ratings are no longer an issue. Used to be these networks pulled even good shows with good ratings if they got antsy about them for some reason.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
To really quantitfy which is worse - use the same individual
July 17, 2009 - 10:37 ET by iiiireaderWould it be worse to call the young lady a racial slur or to plot out the many ways in which someone should kill her? I'd vote the latter each and every time. Insults pass - death is final.
What concerns me about this is that "hate crimes" legislation may eventually carry heavier penalties for speech "crimes" against minorities than for murder of whites. After all, it's just part of leveling the playing field.
This country is on life-support and someone will pull the plug soon.