'I'm Having A Good Crisis': Will Soros Be Attacked For HIS Profits?

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For over six months, bankers, traders, financial institution employees, and anybody in any way associated with Wall Street have been eviscerated by the media as greedy, lying crooks.

Considering this, and how shortly after his inauguration, President Barack Obama said this isn't the time for people to be worried about profits, one has to wonder what kind of reaction the left and their media minions will have towards George Soros's declaration that he's "having a very good crisis."

The following shocking revelation was reported Wednesday by Britain's Daily Mail in an article astoundingly titled "'I'm Having a Very Good Crisis,' says Soros as Hedge Fund Managers Make Billions Off Recession":

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George Soros, who predicted the global financial crisis twice before, was one of the few people to anticipate and prepare for the current economic collapse.

Mr Soros said his prediction meant he was better able to brace his Quantum investment fund against the gloabal [sic] storm.

In reality, this was first reported by The Australian on March 19:

George Soros is having a very good crisis. Other investors are wilting, political power structures are being upended and market economists are scrambling to fashion new theories, but the world's most famous speculator is having a belated heyday.

"It is, in a way, the culminating point of my life’s work," the 78-year-old says in his heavy Hungarian accent during an interview at his London mansion. [...]

At 68 Soros had just predicted a global financial collapse which did not happen, just as he had done a decade earlier; his pet theory of market behaviour, which he calls "reflexivity", had been largely ignored; and his political donations had bought him little sway in Washington. Yet today, he says, all those strands seem to have come together – "the American election, the financial crisis, the theory of reflexivity, so it is actually a very stimulating period".

Those interested can listen to the entire interview the Australian did with Soros here.

With that as pretext, shouldn't Soros be the subject of great scorn by a Wall Street-hating press?

After all, making money is now a bad thing, isn't it -- especially while others are suffering so?

Now, this guy claims he's making millions if not billions off of this crisis, and he gets a pass?

Is it because he almost exclusively contributes to Democrats and liberal causes -- like MoveOn.org -- as well as Barack Obama?

And what of the good folks in the Netroots who so revile Wall Street, greed, and capitalism? Is it okay with them that he supposedly made all this money while others suffered?

Now, I say "supposedly" because Soros's recent comments about "having a very good crisis" go counter to what he wrote as an inset to a Financial Times column on January 28. See if you can spot some glaring contradictions (emphasis added):

THE SOROS INVESTMENT YEAR:

Positions I took were too big for ever more volatile markets

Although I positioned myself reasonably well for what was coming last year, one thing I got wrong cost me dearly: there was no decoupling between markets of the developed and developing worlds.

Indian and Chinese stocks were hit even harder than those in the US and Europe. Since we did not reduce our exposure, we lost more money in India than we had made the year before. Our Chinese manager did better by his stock selection; we were also helped by the appreciation of the renminbi.

I had to push very hard in my macro-account to offset both these losses and those incurred by our external managers. This had its own drawback: I overtraded. The positions I took were too large for the increasingly volatile markets and, in order to manage my risk, I could not go against the market in a big way. I had to try to catch minor moves.

That made it difficult to maintain short positions. Although I am an experienced short-seller, I got caught several times and largely missed the biggest down-draught, in October and November.

On the long side, where I stuck to my guns, I lost an enormous amount of money. I was impressed by the potential in the new deep-water oilfield in Brazil and bought a large strategic position in Petrobras, only to see it decline by 75 per cent at one point in time. We also got caught in the developing petrochemical industry in the Gulf.

We did get out of our strategic long position in CVRD, the Brazilian iron ore producer, in time for the end of the commodity bubble and shorted the other big iron ore groups. But we missed an opportunity in the commodities themselves – partly because I knew from experience how difficult it is to trade them.

I was also slow to recognise the reversal of fortune for the dollar and gave back a large portion of our profits. Under the direction of my new chief investment officer, we did make money in the UK, where we bet that short-term interest rates would decline and shorted sterling against the euro. We also made good money by going long on the credit markets after their collapse.

Eventually I understood that the strength of the dollar was due not to people choosing to hold dollars but to their inability to maintain or roll over their dollar obligations. In a very real sense the strength of the dollar, like the fever associated with sickness, was a measure of the disruption of the financial system. This insight helped me to anticipate the downturn of the dollar at the end of 2008. As a result, we ended the year almost meeting my target of 10 per cent minimum return, after spending most of the year in the red.

Interesting. First he claimed, "I positioned myself reasonably well for what was coming last year." Yet, in the conclusion he wrote "we ended the year almost meeting my target of 10 per cent minimum return, after spending most of the year in the red."

Doesn't sound to me like he positioned himself well for what was coming last year if he was down until the dollar collapsed at the end of November.

In fact, as his 3rd quarter and 4th quarter 13F filings reveal, his equity holdings did VERY poorly. 

This was also VERY telling:

That made it difficult to maintain short positions. Although I am an experienced short-seller, I got caught several times and largely missed the biggest down-draught, in October and November.

So, he wasn't even SHORT when the market collapsed last year?!? 

And, something he neglected to tell his readers was how he took a HUGE position in Lehman Brothers months before it went bankrupt.

Add it all up, and Soros didn't accurately position his investments at all for his bearish, gloom and doom predictions, for the bulk of his profits came WELL AFTER the collapse began and was achieved via a short position in the U.S. dollar which sold off at the end of November more than two months after the crisis started.

As such, not only was he long stocks during one of the biggest crashes in American history -- as opposed to being short as the top traders and hedge funds in the world were!!! -- but he also missed last year's HUGE commodities rally.

Granted, if he did indeed finish the year with almost a ten percent gain as he stated, that's a fine performance in such a down year.

However, for someone who claimed to be "positioned reasonably well" for what was coming, given the extraordinary rally and eventual collapse in commodities, and the crash in stocks, he should have done FAR better than up almost ten percent, and shouldn't have needed a position taken at the end of the year to get him back in the black.

That all said, I can't wait to see how the various shills in the blogosphere who are funded by this America-hater are going to support his profiteering while so many are suffering, and am anxious for the personal attacks on me for having the gall to question their benefactor.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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I have a sneaky suspicion

I have a sneaky suspicion that he started this crisis with a bank run to get Obama ahead in the polls and the resulting effects has helped him in his gold investments.  

"DumbAssity of Dope"

I've thought this from day

I've thought this from day 1...this was all caused by Soros.  He caused the collapse of the British Pound in the 1990s and now he's doing it with the dollar...


This is truly an evil man, and I don't say the following without a heavy heart as I am a Christian, but he should be eliminated and his fortune disbursed amongst the citizens of this nation for the evil he has wrought throughout his life...

Conservative Chemist...

Conservative Chemist... yes, that's true. Soros makes his money by manipulating national currencies even if it means that country collapses completely. He's done that several times (manipulating national currencies).

He's a nasty little creep, evil to the core. He is also a convicted felon in France for insider trading at a major French bank. The conviction was upheld by France's highest court in 2006.

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property are safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

He is also a former Nazi.

He is also a former Nazi. And probably a current one as well.

Mr Snuggles...Wouldn't

Mr Snuggles...Wouldn't surprised me in the least. He's certainly the favorite sugar daddy of the wacko leftists around the world. The Old Media won't touch him, won't vet him, won't tell this truth about this goober.

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

Where are the bus tours by ACORN to his house?

  What a bunch of hyprocrites?! They definitely will support him on his financial acumen. They have to in order to get his money to spread his Liberal tripe. 

http://franklinslocke.blogspot.com/

and when is Timmy G going to demand 95% tax rate on his gains?

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

This golden goose will remain untouchable.

He is way too valuable to the "cause".

"I need more cowbell!" SNL

"The Cause"

is bought and paid for by Soros and his interconnecting web of very politically oriented entities. 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

nofate... Bingo! One of

nofate...

Bingo!

One of the biggest enemies within we have is him...and have had for years and years...of course the leftist love him...after-all, he pulls the strings, he is a shadow Prez...he bought and paid for it after years of trying...along with a heck of a lot of congress-critters.

I despise him and his team.

Great link. 

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Howdy, bt

Yeah, he's a snake- able to crawl around in the tall grass of the world's visible financial and political scenery but remaining behind the scenes pulling strings with his money in order to corrupt anything remotely connected to democratic republics.  That link to "Radical Road Maps" also has info on Soros, although it is a little dated now, it is good background info. 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

nofate... Yep, I have

nofate...

Yep, I have some links saved myself from the same source as you here etc.

The guy is criminal to put it politely, yet nothing happens to him, like being frog-marched to where he belongs in an orange jump-suit....next to Marc Rich..ooops forgot he got a free pass by Clinton/Holder Team.

....and they talk about Madoff...hehehee

 Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Off Topic

Hey, bt.  Did you hear Rush talking about Bobby Jindal's speech to the Republican Congressional Campaign Committee?  It's on Rush's site from the 25th, I think.  Jindal spoke the same night Obama gave his yawner press conference.  What I am trying to find is a video of that speech, have been unable to do so.  Don't the Republicans think to tape this stuff and put it out for people to see?  I have searched and searched using many different combinations of search terms and if it's out there, I'm still not using the right combination.  If you or anyone can find video of that speech, in which Jindal defended Rush saying he wanted Obama to fail (we all know why, here), you will have my gratitude.  I can't offer much else, other than the chance to get Jindal some air time on NB.  He certainly isn't getting it anywhere else that I'm aware of.

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

Hey nofate... Yes I did

Hey nofate...

Yes I did hear it and commented about it here somewhere yesterday...anyway, I will look/keep an eye out too and send it to you if I come across it.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

nofate, that NO MERCY search engine on YT, well bites.

Bobby Jindal 203 views 1 of 3

2 of 3

3 of 3  fail comment here. We do not want America fail.

man oh man is he good....

P.R.I.N.T. Money   30 sec YT 

upcountry

Got it.  Saved it.  Thanks.  I hope he ends up being what we are looking for.  He is already under the statist attack machine sights, and it is already relentless, just look at the surrounding youtube vids and a lot of the comments. 

Thanks again. 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

Do you think we could get the Bounty Hunter guy to find him

and deliver him to France? 

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

Soros - Emanuel. How many secrets can the MSM keep?

Simply, a brilliant synopsis, NS. Thanks - now this is providing a public service. Will the country learn?

You know, it's not like this was any surprise; the MSM had all year long to utilize their investigative skills. Remember the Cliff Kincaid piece,  "Soros Bets on U.S. Economic Collapse" a year and 2 months back?

 Here's an interesting one - was Rahm Emanuel getting advice from Soros - or simply shadow boxing on a theme? 

(;~> gary

 

I don't see Soros mentioned

I don't see Soros mentioned in the piece on Emanuel, but Harld Ickes is mentioned.  That guy shows up in some really odd places- like Hillary's attempt to nationalize health care.  His father was a suspected communist sympathizer in the Roosevelt administration, so the families governmental/statist connections go back a long way, according to "Radical Road Maps" at FrontpageMag.com:

His circle included Dorothy Thompson, pollster George Gallup, Henry Luce, and theologian Reinhold Niebuhr.31 Ickes grew adept at leaking information when it suited his and FDR’s purposes.

Ickes was a member of a Stalinist front called the League for Peace and Democracy.32 Moreover, he took an active role against anti-Soviet officials in the State Department. According to Dennis Dunn, President Roosevelt, Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau, and Interior Secretary Harold Ickes told Soviet ambassador Constantine Oumansky emphatically that anti-Soviet officials in the State Department would be thwarted.33 Ickes’s involvement was peculiar, for it was far outside the bounds of his job as secretary of the interior.

Interesting.  Further on, the author details some of Soros' activities going back early in the 20th century.  More on Soros at "Discover the Networks".

 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

nofate.. yea

Yea - that was a rather vague connection on my part - don't even know what I was trying to say -- just wanted to note the story out there on Emanuel and Freddie. The info on Harld Ickes is indeed of interest. thanks, gary

Gary

Glad to hear of the "vague" nature of the Soros connection in that article.  As I got further and further into it, I kept thinking I was missing something that was left unsaid.  I feel better now.  Other than that, it was a very interesting article.  Isn't it interesting how these guys- Emanuel et al, can drum up the pitchfork crowd to go after legitimate businessmen and their families, and completely skate on their own corrupt business affairs.  Like sitting on a board and never going to a meeting or doing anything at all that is apparent, and getting paid more than a quarter of a million dollars for looking the other way, all in about one years time!  Will the "folks" ever wake up???  I'm not holding my breath. 

 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

Where is the populist

Where is the populist rage?  Do people honestly think that the liberals/democratic party are in it for "the little guy" (rather than using "the little guy" to generate votes)?  I bet the average person on the street doesn't know that the super rich (not the well-off or moderately rich mind you) vote for people with D's beside their name.

fun with java

George Soros Interactive.  I am not a person who believes in conspiracy theories but if I was going to start somewhere, I'd start with this man.

_____________________________________________________
Obama does not perform as advertised.  I'd like a refund.
Taxed Enough Already.

Soros never met a crisis he never profited from

Everyone else's pain is always Soro's gain. Every dime that guy ever made came out of someone else's misery. If he's not manufacturing crisis for profit, he's busy looking for another crisis he can exploit. He's no better than Bernie Madoff. They are one and the same. They even look alike.

I wish Soros would return to

I wish Soros would return to the planet he came from.  He's clearly an alien.  Just watch John Carpenter's "They Live."

Of course he was up

of course he was up for the year, he probably got a bailout after causing the whole mess. You know he is too big to fail. Who is going to fund moveon.org and donate billions to demorats.

Think he would...

Think he could come to Arizona and explain that reflexivity deal to my 91-yr-old demented mother whose money is being lost by the tons by B of A? Or to me? You are rich, George, and apparently smarter than any of us (including your minion in the WH), but you are still ugly and have to die like the rest of us.

this site never makes sense.

This is one of the least intelligent posts I've seen on NewsBusters, and that's saying something.

With that as pretext, shouldn't Soros be the subject of great scorn by a Wall Street-hating press?

Once he takes millions of dollars in bailout funds, yes. Until then, YOU HAVE NO POINT.

Ragamoron,

It appears your trollish comment is disingenuous and intentionally obtuse.

But, in case you really haven't noticed, the wealth-envy crowd isn't just aiming its misplaced anger at those who's employers received bailouts from the taxpayers.

Many Americans are being taught to hate the high achievers in this country by lefties such as yourself.

Never mind that these are the people who provide most of the jobs in this nation.

BTW, planning any rants against Rahm Emmanuel or Franklin Raines?

Of course you aren't. After all, they are libs such as yourself, and are therefore entitled to rip-off the taxpayers anytime they wish.

I wonder which American families were forced to cough up the $90 mil that Raines made off with?

-Dave

This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.

But, in case you really

But, in case you really haven't noticed, the wealth-envy crowd isn't
just aiming its misplaced anger at those who's employers received
bailouts from the taxpayers.

If you repeat this lie often enough, it still won't be true.

BTW, planning any rants against Rahm Emmanuel or Franklin Raines? 

Not planning any rants against anyone. Did you think you had a point?

Well, you engaged in a rant against Noel...

...who has done nothing here but inform us of what the MSM has failed to report.

Unlike Raines, Noel hasn't run off with $90mil. of the taxpayers money.

As for Soros, he has destabilized the currencies of several nations while building his personal billions, yet you appear to be okay with that. The French would like to have his head on the block for what he did to them.

I wonder if you would give him the same pass if he wasn't such a flaming America hater.

Somehow I doubt it.

-Dave

This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.

Soros is having a good crisis...

Sort of like how many people who knew to short airline stocks in early September 2001 had a great 9/11.

The OAF needs to SLAP a $500,000.00/ YEAR limit on his A$$

Now that would be SWEET.

AND A 100% TAX ON ANY BONUSESS

P.R.I.N.T. Money   30 sec YT 

YES!!!

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

Is it just my imagination,

Is it just my imagination, or does Soros bear an eerie resemblance to Emperor Palpatine in the Star Wars Trilogy?

How?

I have never understood how Georgie was able to evade extradition to Europe for the charges he faces there. We have extradition treaties, why isn't he being frogmarched onto a plane in an orange jumpsuit? Does anyone know?

Again With The Soros-Bashing?

This is something I have never understood: What is this insane conspiracy-theory about George Soros all about? From what I have discerned, he is simply a liberal billionaire who uses his fortune to fund whatever causes he feels compelled to support, which are always liberal. What makes that any different than when conservative billionaires, like Richard Melon Schaife, Phil Anschutz or Tom Monoghan, are doing the same thing? The only thing different between them and Soros is that he's liberal instead of conservative. At least I'm not paranoid about conservative billionaires the way you seem to all be. With all due respect, it all sounds like the rantings of a crack-addled vagrant.

I have a personal proposition in this, too. Soros is the only one who will fund the opposition to these pernicious prison guard unions and self-serving politicians in California who believe the way to solve our problems is to incarcerate drug addicts for life. My mother was one of those addicts, and even though she was never sentenced to life,  she was harmed by these god-awful laws in so many ways. Just within the last two days, I paid my respects to her on the third anniversary of her death from congenital heart failure, which was no doubt exacerbated by these evil three-strikes laws that slimeballs like Pete Wilson and Arnold Schwarzenegger put into place. It takes brave men like George Soros to say "Enough is enough." It's time to take a stand to the radical agendas of the prison guard unions and the self-serving politicians.

While you are all ranting like crack-addicts, I will be praying that George Soros succeeds in trying to fix the world  for the better. That's the way I see it and I'm sticking to it.

Oh oh ha ha!

I thought my jokes were bad.

 Your mother was a drug addict you say? Sounds like she should have been locked up. She probably would have lived long in prison, especially in California.

 Lastly, Arnie a slime ball and Soros is a saint? Tee hee hee. 

Look who stuck his head up out of the hole again.

We need tougher crack laws.

March 11, 2009 - 03:34 ET by JWF

  Maybe if your mother had been picked up sooner and put away longer, she would not have had the chance to reproduce and have the brain damaged crack baby that is teh7sticks.

  By the way, it was me that withheld the heart medicine from your mother. I had a 19 year old cat with diabetes that I thought needed the medicine more.

  Boy, she was ugly too. I am glad I did not have to put up with that ugly mug for too long.

 I have an idea. Why don't you draw a cartoon about all those times I slapped your mom around when she was in prison. Man those were some happy times. Ahhhhh.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

PS: any more liberal bias bombs you would like to drop today?

 By the way, a proposition is the act of offering or suggesting something to be considered, accepted, adopted, or done. A position is a condition with reference to place; location; situation. LEARN THE LANGUAGE. You had 12 years of schooling just like all the rest of us.

 Has it been 3 years now we have had the joy of having an earth that is free of teh7sticks' addled crack addict mom? Wow, happy times sure do fly fast.

Soros

When I saw this I felt that I was justified that my suspicions of George Soros' active creation of financial chaos, was accurate. I personally don't believe in conspiracy theories but George has said that he profited greatly, as a result of past financial disruptions. He certainly has spent Billions of dollars in the US, to support his propagandists.

Hate him.

I hate that man with every inch however I am not angry at the fact that he's rich. I'm not a populist scum bag. He has the full right to the money he's made but I still hate him.